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Title: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 14, 2009, 01:03:28 PM
On the 50 MOST LOATHSOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA, 2008 list.

1. Sarah Palin

Charges: If you want to know why the rest of the world is scared of Americans, consider the fact that after two terms of disastrous rule by a small-minded ignoramus, 46% of us apparently thought the problem was that he wasn’t quite stupid enough. Palin’s unending emissions of baffling, evasive incoherence should have disqualified her for any position that involved a desk, let alone placing her one erratic heartbeat from the presidency. The press strained mightily to feign respect for her, praising a debate performance that involved no debate, calling her a “great speaker” when her only speech was primarily a litany of insults to city-dwellers, echoing bogus sexism charges when a male Palin would have been boiled alive for the Couric interview alone, and lionizing her as she used her baby as a Pro-life stage prop before crowds who cooed when they should have been hurling polonium-tipped javelins. In the end, Palin had the beneficial effect of splitting her party between her admirers and people who can read.

Exhibit A: Waving her embryo-loving credentials, in the form of her Down syndrome baby, at "But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy."


http://buffalobeast.com/134/50mostloathsome2008-full.html

In the top ten were also :

McCain #2
Hannity #3
Bush #4
Greenspan #5
Paulson #6
Cheney #7
Addington #8
Graham #9
Madoff #10


Sounds like a poll that the Repubs could finally dominate.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 01:29:44 PM
In the end, Palin had the beneficial effect of splitting her party between her admirers and people who can read.

hahaha seriously, i can understand if someone supported palin simply because they didn't like obama.  fair enough.

But to stand up and say "she's a smart person i want running my country"... or "She's the most qualified repub in 2012"

You don't see many intelligent people that would say that.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
hahaha seriously, i can understand if someone supported palin simply because they didn't like obama.  fair enough.

But to stand up and say "she's a smart person i want running my country"... or "She's the most qualified repub in 2012"

You don't see many intelligent people that would say that.

You sick perverts are really something.  She is worse than Madoff???? 

What the hell is wrong with you washwomen??? 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Dos Equis on January 14, 2009, 01:43:19 PM
lol . . . Who the heck are "Allan Uthman & Ian Murphy" (the people who came up with this list)? 

She's worse than OJ?  lol . . .  I think you people have Palin pinups and Palin screensavers.   
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 14, 2009, 01:51:24 PM

Oh, no.  The contributors of that list doesn't have an agenda.   ::)




I'll keep my list short.

1.  All the democrats who push their beliefs in government entitlements.
2.  All the republicans who "work together" with the ones mentioned above
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Al Doggity on January 14, 2009, 03:35:16 PM
Why is she so loathsome? She did a great job in helping defeat McCain, so she's A-Ok in my book.

And 33866, you keep accusing 240 of having a crush on Palin, but it sounds more like you do. Were you wiping away tears as you posted that meltdown?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
she's the top face of the republican party, coming out and whining about interviews done 4 months ago.

Yes, it's an intriguing story.  As someone who voted repub in 96, 00, and 04, then hit the libertarian button in 08, I have as much a right as anyone to be concerned about the future of my party.

I'd much prefer a more professional leader of the party.  not someone bickering "The world doesn't revolve around YOU, katie!"
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tonymctones on January 14, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
she's the top face of the republican party, coming out and whining about interviews done 4 months ago.

Yes, it's an intriguing story.  As someone who voted repub in 96, 00, and 04, then hit the libertarian button in 08, I have as much a right as anyone to be concerned about the future of my party.

I'd much prefer a more professional leader of the party.  not someone bickering "The world doesn't revolve around YOU, katie!"
LOL your party dude you are liberal through and through
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Al Doggity on January 14, 2009, 03:57:34 PM

I'd much prefer a more professional leader of the party.  not someone bickering "The world doesn't revolve around YOU, katie!"

She has no gravitas, whatsoever. I can't imagine her sitting across from another world leader in an official capacity. Bush comes off well in comparison. She takes things so personally when one of the primary qualities a politician should possess is emotional durability.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
LOL your party dude you are liberal through and through

i'm quite conservative on most issues.

Not on bailouts, or open borders, or wars based on lies... you know, the things the neocon wing of the party condoned.

I'm quite supporting of most Ron Paul repub beliefs.  I love to see criminals hanged and welfare moms cut off when they can put the dick down. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 04:01:14 PM
I can't imagine her sitting across from another world leader in an official capacity.

She met the president of pakistan.  he hit on her, right?

She was called by who she thought was the leader of france.  He complemented her on her PORNO MOVIE.  She thanked him.

Yeah, I think she's ready to stare down Chavez, hugo, and china? :)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tonymctones on January 14, 2009, 04:06:11 PM
i'm quite conservative on most issues.

Not on bailouts, or open borders, or wars based on lies... you know, the things the neocon wing of the party condoned.

I'm quite supporting of most Ron Paul repub beliefs.  I love to see criminals hanged and welfare moms cut off when they can put the dick down. 
LOL  :o so you are pro capital punishment and anti welfare i dont know how i could have mistaken you for a liberal...ohhhh maybe it was your campaining for obama and his policies for the past year.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 04:41:36 PM
LOL  :o so you are pro capital punishment and anti welfare i dont know how i could have mistaken you for a liberal...ohhhh maybe it was your campaining for obama and his policies for the past year.

which policies?  gettting the F out of iraq before their govt threw us out, which thry promptly did, giving us 3 years to clear the F outta those bases?

not borrowing trillions to bail out banks with zero accountability?

That's called using common sense :)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 14, 2009, 04:58:35 PM
amazing that there are still clowns out there defending this tart.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tonymctones on January 14, 2009, 05:05:08 PM
which policies?  gettting the F out of iraq before their govt threw us out, which thry promptly did, giving us 3 years to clear the F outta those bases?

not borrowing trillions to bail out banks with zero accountability?

That's called using common sense :)
Getting out of iraq is fine but not his ignorant plan which got revised just about everytime he got his head out of his ass and talked to ppl who knew what was going on.

LOL your obammers was one that was pushing for the bailouts and even now wants more remember.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 14, 2009, 06:08:57 PM
amazing that there are still clowns out there defending this tart.

they believe that if a simpleton like palin can run the country, maybe they can too!

They want a woman who actually said she had to go on Couric again - even though she didn't want to - because her handlers told her to.

Maybe her handlers would make a good president!
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: The Coach on January 14, 2009, 06:12:52 PM
lol . . . Who the heck are "Allan Uthman & Ian Murphy" (the people who came up with this list)? 

She's worse than OJ?  lol . . .  I think you people have Palin pinups and Palin screensavers.   

Brothers of Ringling, Barnum and Bailey.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 14, 2009, 07:18:46 PM
Silly conservatwats start up the teeth gnashing and idiotic excuses whenever Palin is mentioned.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: The Coach on January 14, 2009, 08:00:57 PM
Silly conservatwats start up the teeth gnashing and idiotic excuses whenever Palin is mentioned.

You libs start so many lies and stories about her and make it so obvious shes a total threat to your party the only things you can do is bash her and hope it sticks by 2012. But like I said, but on the bright side, thanks you clowns we already have 2010 rapped up. LOL.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 14, 2009, 08:45:59 PM
LOL @ 4 gop retiring and you say it is "rapped up".

Only thing wrapped up is the additional seats the Dems will pick up.  It's hard to find her a threat when she is the best entertainment the nation has had in a long time.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 14, 2009, 08:47:56 PM
You libs start so many lies and stories about her and make it so obvious shes a total threat to your party the only things you can do is bash her and hope it sticks by 2012. But like I said, but on the bright side, thanks you clowns we already have 2010 rapped up. LOL.

It's really sickening how you act like it's your team against their team.  We're all Americans.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 14, 2009, 08:49:07 PM
It's really sickening how you act like it's your team against their team.  We're all Americans.

But right now, our side is winning.  LOL!!!

Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 14, 2009, 09:07:41 PM
But right now, our side is winning.  LOL!!!

I'm on every Americans side  8)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: The Coach on January 14, 2009, 09:15:36 PM
It's really sickening how you act like it's your team against their team.  We're all Americans.

If we're all Americans then why do Libs hate american values so much? One thing being born in America and calling yourself "an American" but if you are truly an "American" then for Gods sake act like one.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Benny B on January 15, 2009, 02:47:44 AM
You libs start so many lies and stories about her and make it so obvious shes a total threat to your party the only things you can do is bash her and hope it sticks by 2012. But like I said, but on the bright side, thanks you clowns we already have 2010 rapped up. LOL.
hahaha! The funniest thing I've read all week!  ;D Keep telling yourself that. The Dems love your undying support of this loser.

If we're all Americans then why do Libs hate american values so much? One thing being born in America and calling yourself "an American" but if you are truly an "American" then for Gods sake act like one.
How do you "act like an American" according to "The Coach", and who the fuck are you to define the terms?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: BM OUT on January 15, 2009, 06:24:29 AM
hahaha seriously, i can understand if someone supported palin simply because they didn't like obama.  fair enough.

But to stand up and say "she's a smart person i want running my country"... or "She's the most qualified repub in 2012"

You don't see many intelligent people that would say that.

I dont know ONE person besides left wing libs that thought Biden would be qualified to ever be president.In fact,take a look at how many votes he got in the primary,a TOTAL looser.Yet,you voted for him for vice president.The man that thinks JOBS is a three letter word.Brilliant.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: BM OUT on January 15, 2009, 06:31:37 AM
On the 50 MOST LOATHSOME PEOPLE IN AMERICA, 2008 list.

1. Sarah Palin

Charges: If you want to know why the rest of the world is scared of Americans, consider the fact that after two terms of disastrous rule by a small-minded ignoramus, 46% of us apparently thought the problem was that he wasn’t quite stupid enough. Palin’s unending emissions of baffling, evasive incoherence should have disqualified her for any position that involved a desk, let alone placing her one erratic heartbeat from the presidency. The press strained mightily to feign respect for her, praising a debate performance that involved no debate, calling her a “great speaker” when her only speech was primarily a litany of insults to city-dwellers, echoing bogus sexism charges when a male Palin would have been boiled alive for the Couric interview alone, and lionizing her as she used her baby as a Pro-life stage prop before crowds who cooed when they should have been hurling polonium-tipped javelins. In the end, Palin had the beneficial effect of splitting her party between her admirers and people who can read.

Exhibit A: Waving her embryo-loving credentials, in the form of her Down syndrome baby, at "But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy."


http://buffalobeast.com/134/50mostloathsome2008-full.html

In the top ten were also :

McCain #2
Hannity #3
Bush #4
Greenspan #5
Paulson #6
Cheney #7
Addington #8
Graham #9
Madoff #10


Sounds like a poll that the Repubs could finally dominate.

Wow,that sounds like a truly moderate poll.I wonder if a right wing blog did that would the results be slightly different.I am sure McCain would still be on the list.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2009, 06:38:44 AM

How do you "act like an American" according to "The Coach", and who the fuck are you to define the terms?


You mean you don't have a link to the answer?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: headhuntersix on January 15, 2009, 06:49:24 AM
she's the top face of the republican party, coming out and whining about interviews done 4 months ago.

Yes, it's an intriguing story.  As someone who voted repub in 96, 00, and 04, then hit the libertarian button in 08, I have as much a right as anyone to be concerned about the future of my party.

I'd much prefer a more professional leader of the party.  not someone bickering "The world doesn't revolve around YOU, katie!"


Again I don' think u have much of a grasp of whats going on with the Republicans if u think Palin is the face of the party. She's done.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 06:52:59 AM
Again I don' think u have much of a grasp of whats going on with the Republicans if u think Palin is the face of the party. She's done.

Why are all the networks - even FOX - putting her on nonstop?

Ratings, sure... but what other repubs are we seeing?  A disgraced bush limping out of office?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: headhuntersix on January 15, 2009, 06:57:43 AM
Because she's whining, I guess thats news right now. Once Obama is in, she's gone.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 15, 2009, 07:14:35 AM
Wow,that sounds like a truly moderate poll.I wonder if a right wing blog did that would the results be slightly different.I am sure McCain would still be on the list.

Judging from the party voters who jumped ship it would be safe to assume that Palin would still be #1 on that list as well.  Unless of course you conducted the poll inside a Walmart, next to a church, in a town that had a zero record number of rapes.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 15, 2009, 07:16:33 AM
according to "The Coach", and who the fuck are you to define the terms?


Next up he will be attempting to define traditional family and marriage values.  BWAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 07:25:39 AM
Because she's whining, I guess thats news right now. Once Obama is in, she's gone.

a lot of repubs on the board love her.  'palin 2012' has come outta their mouths very seriously lately.  methinks there is that loyal 25% that think she's just plain dadburn awesome. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 15, 2009, 07:31:59 AM
a lot of repubs on the board love her.  'palin 2012' has come outta their mouths very seriously lately.  methinks there is that loyal 25% that think she's just plain dadburn awesome. 

Same ones calling her the future of the GOP during the campaign.  If she is "the one", then GOP doesn't have "a future".
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tonymctones on January 15, 2009, 07:45:51 AM
a lot of repubs on the board love her.  'palin 2012' has come outta their mouths very seriously lately.  methinks there is that loyal 25% that think she's just plain dadburn awesome. 
i think your ignorant and believe what you want i.e. kennedy polls etc...Ive heard that term palin 2012 thrown around a lot as well but mainly and possibly exclusively by the more ignorant liberals on this board which you are one of.  ::)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Grape Ape on January 15, 2009, 08:10:52 AM
a lot of repubs on the board love her.

I'm not sure about this one.  I think the feeling is that she is a very accomplished person, who was attacked at a historically ridiculous level.  That's why people rush to defend her.

Personally, I thought she was a completely transparent choice for VP, and I grew tired of her, but she's not the "dimwit" that those here would have you believe.

There's a difference between being stupid and not ready for prime time.

Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: shootfighter1 on January 15, 2009, 08:36:12 AM
Nice unbiased ridiculous poll (and waste of a post).  So Palin is worse than Madoff, who stole 50 billion dollars of people's money.  Laughable. 
I am bored with the Palin issue...she's fine as an Alaskan gov but isn't qualified to run for pres or VP in 2012.  On the other hand, the treatment she received by the media and many on the left was quite unfair.  They don't like her because she is different than our high society liberals that dominate the media.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 08:49:25 AM
I am bored with the Palin issue...she's fine as an Alaskan gov but isn't qualified to run for pres or VP in 2012.  On the other hand, the treatment she received by the media and many on the left was quite unfair.

Yes, they were rough on her.

BUT

They knew she was unqualified and a fraud.  And they know mccain snuck her in at the last possible minute (introduced into spotlight from obscurity a scant 8 or 9 weeks before election day)

With a YEAR to evaluate her, most ppl would realize she was unprepared/underqualified to run the free world. 

With TWO MONTHS to give 4 interviews then a bunch of canned speeches, mccain really could have hidden her ignorance. 

Most VP selections, historically, went on many, many sunday AM talk shows, larry King, and everything else, to campaign for their ticket and sell themselves to america.

I said this before, and I'll say it again

Palin peaked that morning she was introduced (and she had a 64% approval rate with potential voters that Friday morning).

From there on, whether it was her answer "I read every newspaper, katie" or shooting moose, or 18 months experience, or firing brother-in-law, or shit job raising her dropout kids...

From there on, the voters were going to be picked off, one by one.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 08:58:12 AM
You need serious help.  You are 1000000000% obsessed with this woman.  Let it go dude, you are really humiliating yourself.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 09:10:46 AM
i miss my party being led by shrewd, experienced people.

bring back newt, jeb, and the other great minds.

rudy, palin, mccain, all second tier thinkers, let's be honest here.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 15, 2009, 09:11:07 AM

I don't agree with these comments by some of these morally challenged liberals.

I'm of the belief that when republicans or conservatives makes an assumption that she is the future of the GOP, they are not clarifying themselves properly.
What I think they are subconsciously saying is that her value system is what the future of the GOP should be.  Not neccesarily her alone.
 
When McCain picked her it lit a fire in the strong conservative base and it’s scaring the hell of the dem’s and lib’s.  To prove that point just look at the names she’s been called just in this thread alone!   
Far be it for me to defend anyone who may actually believe she is the future.  This is just my opinion.


Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 09:15:40 AM
her value system is what the future of the GOP should be.  Not neccesarily her alone.

fair assessment... but you have to think about it...

She advocates complete abstinence until marriage, zero abortion rights, and a lot of other far-right things.

What % of americans like that point of view?  What % of Americans believe in abstinence?


I'm all for locking up criminals and flushing welfare, but let's be honest, you can't stop teenagers form having sex.  palin's methods didn't work at home - her daughter is with second* child and she's not even 18 yet?  Dropped out over a year ago, just as the older son did (join military or go to jail for vandalizing that school bus!)

Palin's extreme ways didn't work.  While I agree the repub party needs an identity, I don't see extremism as it.  Ron paul and fiscal responsibility & end to nationbulding SHOULD be the message we're leaning toward in the repub party.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 15, 2009, 09:16:30 AM

They knew she was unqualified and a fraud. 



How is she a fraud??

She's obviously has more purpose in life than you.



Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 09:17:57 AM
fiscal responsibility & end to nationbulding SHOULD be the message we're leaning toward in the repub party.

Agree 100% with this.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 09:20:30 AM
i miss my party being led by shrewd, experienced people.

bring back newt, jeb, and the other great minds.

rudy, palin, mccain, all second tier thinkers, let's be honest here.

Jeb??????????  Open Borders no drilling off of Florida?????????
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 09:22:41 AM
Agree 100% with this.


Hopefully Newt and the other brains of the party will as well.

The repub party isn't about "Race to drill up oil".
It's not about making our kids drop out of 10th grade to have 2 kids.
It's not about giving speeches on great parenting while our daughter's myspace has pics of 40 Crown Royale bags pinned to the wall, a sign to anyone with a brain this child is consuming a lot of liquor.
It's not about giving 2 trillion to banks with a secret use for it, however they choose.

It's about being smart with our nation's money.  I tell ya, if there is ONE American starving to death in USA while we're sending $3 bil a week to iraq to feed/protect some dick I never met who hates us anyway... that doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 09:26:27 AM
Newt was neutered for lack of a better term by the two party cartel who stays in DC.

The best finances we ever had in this country in recent memory was when he ran the congress and clinton was president. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 09:29:16 AM
Newt was neutered for lack of a better term by the two party cartel who stays in DC.

The best finances we ever had in this country in recent memory was when he ran the congress and clinton was president. 

Can't disagree with that... The fiscally responsible congress kept a left leaning person in check and it worked out for everyone.

The problem has been that the past 8 years has seen more spending from both parties and it's just fucked up everything.

I hate them both.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 15, 2009, 09:33:45 AM
fair assessment... but you have to think about it...

She advocates complete abstinence until marriage, zero abortion rights, and a lot of other far-right things.

What % of americans like that point of view?  What % of Americans believe in abstinence?


I'm all for locking up criminals and flushing welfare, but let's be honest, you can't stop teenagers form having sex.  palin's methods didn't work at home - her daughter is with second* child and she's not even 18 yet?  Dropped out over a year ago, just as the older son did (join military or go to jail for vandalizing that school bus!)

Palin's extreme ways didn't work.  While I agree the repub party needs an identity, I don't see extremism as it.  Ron paul and fiscal responsibility & end to nationbulding SHOULD be the message we're leaning toward in the repub party.

You sound like the moderate repubs in congress.  Get a backbone.  Stand up for something you spinless jelly fish.

And criminals keep stealing, murdering, and raping.  So why don't we just stop making them crimes.  Just because you can't stop something doesn't mean you condone it. 
Yes I know it sounds ancient, but you must tell a child that something is wrong, that they shouldn't do it.

What % of Americans has that view??  They're called conservatives.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 09:36:08 AM
You sound like the moderate repubs in congress.  Get a backbone.  Stand up for something you spinless jelly fish.

And criminals keep stealing, murdering, and raping.  So why don't we just stop making them crimes.  Just because you can't stop something doesn't mean you condone it. 
Yes I know it sounds ancient, but you must tell a child that something is wrong, that they shouldn't do it.

What % of Americans has that view??  They're called conservatives.


Fair enough, but why then did Bill O'Rielly say that Jamie Lynn Spears' parents were the reason she got knocked up and say they were terrible parents, yet when Palin's daughter gets knocked up, it's a private matter and they should be left alone about it?

Why the double standard?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 09:38:24 AM
What % of Americans has that view??  They're called conservatives.

what % of americans wait until they get married to have sex?
what % are against abortion in all forms?

Look, i'm all for killing welfare for most, doubling prison sentences, and cutting a lot of scrubs getting social security for a heart attack 15 years ago while they're working under the table now.  Fuccck them.

But making the base of the entire party "Stop having sex" isn't going to work.  It didn't work in palin's own family.  It's not going to work nationwide.  And if it did, we'd just have 50 million pissed off, sexually frustrated young people.  that's what the middle east has.  You give them some porn and let them fvck, and jihad matters a lot less :)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 15, 2009, 09:54:56 AM
Fair enough, but why then did Bill O'Rielly say that Jamie Lynn Spears' parents were the reason she got knocked up and say they were terrible parents, yet when Palin's daughter gets knocked up, it's a private matter and they should be left alone about it?

Why the double standard?

I can't speak for Bill.

There is a double standard.  That's the way this country rolls.

Why is Spears' pregnancy celebrated in the media and Palin's pregnancy demonized?

Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2009, 10:00:16 AM
I don't agree with these comments by some of these morally challenged liberals.

I'm of the belief that when republicans or conservatives makes an assumption that she is the future of the GOP, they are not clarifying themselves properly.
What I think they are subconsciously saying is that her value system is what the future of the GOP should be.  Not neccesarily her alone.
 
When McCain picked her it lit a fire in the strong conservative base and it’s scaring the hell of the dem’s and lib’s.  To prove that point just look at the names she’s been called just in this thread alone!   
Far be it for me to defend anyone who may actually believe she is the future.  This is just my opinion.




Good points.  She does represent the views and background of a substantial number of Americans.  I don't think most Americans identify with the leftwing of the Democrat party. 

The woman just has liberals in a tizzy.  She must be doing something right. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 10:00:33 AM
I can't speak for Bill.

There is a double standard.  That's the way this country rolls.

Why is Spears' pregnancy celebrated in the media and Palin's pregnancy demonized?



Simple, because Spears and her family don't run around saying abstinence and no sex before marriage where Palin does.

If you're going to demonize something yourself, then you have to be prepared to be demonized when you do it.

There is nothing worse than a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 10:01:11 AM
Good points.  She does represent the views and background of a substantial number of Americans.  I don't think most Americans identify with the leftwing of the Democrat party. 

The woman just has liberals in a tizzy.  She must be doing something right. 

I don't think her values are as universal as you believe... I'd say most people in the US are pretty socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 10:02:48 AM
Good points.  She does represent the views and background of a substantial number of Americans. 

18% of repubs who voted bush in 04, stayed home in 08.

Bush's appeal was almost 25% greater than Palins.  Not the direction to go in.

yes, there are a lot of americans who believe in abstinence, and her other beliefs.  But the majority do not.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 15, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
what % of americans wait until they get married to have sex?
what % are against abortion in all forms?

Look, i'm all for killing welfare for most, doubling prison sentences, and cutting a lot of scrubs getting social security for a heart attack 15 years ago while they're working under the table now.  Fuccck them.

But making the base of the entire party "Stop having sex" isn't going to work.  It didn't work in palin's own family.  It's not going to work nationwide.  And if it did, we'd just have 50 million pissed off, sexually frustrated young people.  that's what the middle east has.  You give them some porn and let them fvck, and jihad matters a lot less :)


Look, it's not about what kids are going to do.  Kids are kids. 
It's raising them to know right from wrong and not telling them it's OK if get pregnant, do drugs and alcohol or rob and steal. 
By society having passive views like yours it is condoning those actions.
No, of course you can't physically stop kids from doing anything.

It's about giving them morals and standards. 

Abortion is murder, that's why it should be stopped.  But that's another topic.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Stark on January 15, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
hahaha seriously, i can understand if someone supported palin simply because they didn't like obama.  fair enough.

But to stand up and say "she's a smart person i want running my country"... or "She's the most qualified repub in 2012"

You don't see many intelligent people that would say that.

The intelligent people are not in the majority... thats the scary part
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2009, 10:11:08 AM
I don't think her values are as universal as you believe... I'd say most people in the US are pretty socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

I'd say that's not accurate.  I didn't call her values universal. 

I think if you talk to most Americans they would actually agree with conservative values regarding family, taxes, the economy, abortion, homosexual marriage, the role of government, etc.  Overall, liberal ideology is a minority viewpoint IMO.  But we will have a leftwinger in the White House.   
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2009, 10:11:32 AM
18% of repubs who voted bush in 04, stayed home in 08.

Bush's appeal was almost 25% greater than Palins.  Not the direction to go in.

yes, there are a lot of americans who believe in abstinence, and her other beliefs.  But the majority do not.

Wrong.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 10:12:06 AM
18% of repubs who voted bush in 04, stayed home in 08.

Bush's appeal was almost 25% greater than Palins.  Not the direction to go in.

yes, there are a lot of americans who believe in abstinence, and her other beliefs.  But the majority do not.

PURE GARBAGE.  GOP VOTERS DID NOT LIKE MCLAME. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 10:14:27 AM
PURE GARBAGE.  GOP VOTERS DID NOT LIKE MCLAME. 

but they liked palin?

why did 60% of voters feel she was not even ready to be VICE president, as edison polling group (which does include FOX) showed on nov 4th?
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 10:19:51 AM
but they liked palin?

why did 60% of voters feel she was not even ready to be VICE president, as edison polling group (which does include FOX) showed on nov 4th?

Media spin. 

Let me ask you this genius - did john edwards get half the scrutiny when he ran for VP with Kerry that Palin got??????????????????????????

Was he ready?


Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: 240 is Back on January 15, 2009, 10:23:50 AM
no.  because he didn't get in front of the camera and tell reporters he read 4,000 newspapers that morning :)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 15, 2009, 10:30:20 AM
no.  because he didn't get in front of the camera and tell reporters he read 4,000 newspapers that morning :)

Oh please.  You are such a shill sometimes.  Edwards had less qualifications than Palin and the media never called him on it because he was pro-choice and looked like a little metrosexual bitch.   
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tonymctones on January 15, 2009, 10:57:03 AM
but they liked palin?

why did 60% of voters feel she was not even ready to be VICE president, as edison polling group (which does include FOX) showed on nov 4th?
LOL IVE SAID IT BEFORE ILL SAY IT AGAIN BRAIN CHILD YOU CANT COMPARE 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT POLLS TOGETHER WITHOUT LOOKING AT OTHER FACTORS.  ::)
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: shootfighter1 on January 15, 2009, 02:06:07 PM
I agree on Newt Gingrich, very intelligent man.
The Clinton/Gingrich and republican controlled congress was the best time I remember.

It seems the democrats are moving farther to the left though...maybe its just in responce to Bush.  I think there are a lot of moderates in this country but they are not being represented adequately, particularly by the new crop of democrats.  We need more blue dog democrats and republicans who will adhere to true fiscally conservative principles. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 15, 2009, 02:14:01 PM
I agree on Newt Gingrich, very intelligent man.
The Clinton/Gingrich and republican controlled congress was the best time I remember.

It seems the democrats are moving farther to the left though...maybe its just in responce to Bush.  I think there are a lot of moderates in this country but they are not being represented adequately, particularly by the new crop of democrats.  We need more blue dog democrats and republicans who will adhere to true fiscally conservative principles. 

You're correct... It's all squeaky wheel syndrome BS.

The bitchers and whiners on both sides are taking the power from the majority who are really pretty middle of the road.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: BM OUT on January 16, 2009, 06:28:41 AM
18% of repubs who voted bush in 04, stayed home in 08.

Bush's appeal was almost 25% greater than Palins.  Not the direction to go in.

yes, there are a lot of americans who believe in abstinence, and her other beliefs.  But the majority do not.

Jesus Christ your an idiot.Palin didnt loose.Conservatives HATE John McCain ,always have,always will.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 16, 2009, 06:42:09 AM
Jesus Christ your an idiot.Palin didnt loose.Conservatives HATE John McCain ,always have,always will.

True conservative, I will add disslike, McCain. 

240 tries to paint conservs and repubs with the same brush.

You're right, Palin did not lose.  McCain lost.  You certainly won't see him much in news anymore.

Palin is only in her 40's and just gettin' started.  Look out moonbats.  Better come up with some more catchy insults!  She's gonna be around awhile.
 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2009, 06:52:31 AM
True conservative, I will add disslike, McCain. 

240 tries to paint conservs and repubs with the same brush.

You're right, Palin did not lose.  McCain lost.  You certainly won't see him much in news anymore.

Palin is only in her 40's and just gettin' started.  Look out moonbats.  Better come up with some more catchy insults!  She's gonna be around awhile.
 

I still fail to see what the heck is the problem, the election is over.

I personally liked Palin and think she can be a force in the future, but she has to become better informed on a lot of issues before she can even think about being POTUS. 

What I dont understand is the hyperventilating that goes on about every word she says.

For the record, McCain sucks and is going to usher in amnesty with Obama.   

Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 16, 2009, 06:53:42 AM
She's gonna be around awhile.
 

I truly hope so.  She makes for great entertainment laughing at her.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: mightymouse72 on January 16, 2009, 06:58:09 AM


For the record, McCain sucks and is going to usher in amnesty with Obama.   




I'm afraid you're right. 

McCain is going to prove to us his "working across the aisle" crap.


Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: BM OUT on January 16, 2009, 07:04:08 AM
I truly hope so.  She makes for great entertainment laughing at her.

Well,we on the right will be giggling at that emty headed fool Joe Biden for the next four years.JOBS is a three letter word.What a moron.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
no.  because he didn't get in front of the camera and tell reporters he read 4,000 newspapers that morning :)

No, he only told the public that people like Christopher Reeves would walk again if he was elected with Kerry.

Nice try though. 
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2009, 01:19:34 PM
No, he only told the public that people like Christopher Reeves would walk again if he was elected with Kerry.

Nice try though. 
I think that we all know that stem cell research could actually allow people with spinal injuries to walk in the future... That's not an impossibility.

Modern medicine has gone a great deal in the past 100 years and stem cell research could have it improve exponentially more.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 16, 2009, 01:23:32 PM
I think that we all know that stem cell research could actually allow people with spinal injuries to walk in the future... That's not an impossibility.

Modern medicine has gone a great deal in the past 100 years and stem cell research could have it improve exponentially more.

Yeah, whatever.  Trying to capitlize on Reeves' situation to make political point is as low as you get.
Title: Re: Palin = #1
Post by: tu_holmes on January 16, 2009, 03:16:55 PM
Yeah, whatever.  Trying to capitlize on Reeves' situation to make political point is as low as you get.

I guess I don't understand why... Would it have been better if he had picked some other famous person who the people would understand what happened to them and why they couldn't walk?

Who would he have mentioned? That other quadraplegic who fell and broke their neck? ???

Seems like Christopher Reeves, who was a big proponent of stem cell research would have been proud to be mentioned in the subject.