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http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090114/pl_bloomberg/ajw1rczjseq4
"Voters favored Cuomo over Kennedy, 31 percent to 24 percent, with 29 percent divided among others, according to the poll. Forty-eight percent said Kennedy isn’t qualified for the job"
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isn’t qualified for the job"
I thought you were okay with that in a candidate? ;)
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I thought you were okay with that in a candidate? ;)
LOL i was against palin as VP unlike you who supported obama ;) I like palin personally but i agree she wasnt the best pick as VP just like you SHOULD agree that obama wasnt the best pick as democratic nominee.
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I thought you were okay with that in a candidate? ;)
Geeze a couple of weeksa ago you were saying that Kennedy would be a powerhouse in national politics.I believe you even predicted she has a shot at the top of the ticket for dems.Ha,ha,ha,yeah,shes grea YOU KNOW shes awesone YOU KNOW.DUUH I went to law school you know?
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ummm....it's like....ummm...you know....ok.....ummm....y ou know.....ok......that I.....you know....have like....ummmm.....lost my......you know......luster.....you know.
I'm like.....you know.....ummmm....still a Kennedy.....and....you know.....ummm....and you're not.
you know
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ummm....it's like....ummm...you know....ok.....ummm....y ou know.....ok......that I.....you know....have like....ummmm.....lost my......you know......luster.....you know.
I'm like.....you know.....ummmm....still a Kennedy.....and....you know.....ummm....and you're not.
you know
LOL
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lol. :)
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Geeze a couple of weeksa ago you were saying that Kennedy would be a powerhouse in national politics.
she will be.
in 8 years of being a senator, she'll be prepared for the slot, which will be salivating for a woman by then, and hilary will be almost 70.
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who gives a shit, shes not being elected.
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she will be.
in 8 years of being a senator, she'll be prepared for the slot, which will be salivating for a woman by then, and hilary will be almost 70.
LOL your fuking delusional
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LOL your fuking delusional
right. a female 8 year senator would never be selected. but an 18-month governor? Perfect!
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right. a female 8 year senator would never be selected. but an 18-month governor? Perfect!
LOL and right back to palin you dumb fuk thats all you got isnt it?
will be a sad day if this lady is given the seat, you know?
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LOL and right back to palin you dumb fuk thats all you got isnt it?
will be a sad day if this lady is given the seat, you know?
Cuomo is far more qualified than kennedy, as are a dozen other ppl.
My point is that a young female senator with 8 years experience and a last name like Kennedy is a shoo-in for the Dem VP slot in 2016. Anyone who disagrees that she'd be the perfect combo of big-state experience, family connections, teh gender card, and the continuance of change from the obama reign, is just plain lying to themselves.
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Cuomo is far more qualified than kennedy, as are a dozen other ppl.
My point is that a young female senator with 8 years experience and a last name like Kennedy is a shoo-in for the Dem VP slot in 2016. Anyone who disagrees that she'd be the perfect combo of big-state experience, family connections, teh gender card, and the continuance of change from the obama reign, is just plain lying to themselves.
well the problem is she is in all likely hood bumbling fool or at least thats how she comes across. I wont disagree with your statement b/c she would that is of course conceding that idea she wouldnt make any major gaffes in office which i really dont see happening.
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well the problem is she is in all likely hood bumbling fool or at least thats how she comes across. I wont disagree with your statement b/c she would that is of course conceding that idea she wouldnt make any major gaffes in office which i really dont see happening.
what gaffes can a senator make? I mean, they read prepared shit on the floor all day. the only time they get in trouble is when their egos (Hi Joe Biden) make them blurt out shit to the cameras. Senators are fairly safe quote-machines. it's only when they run for office and get all bravado and shit, that they get in troble.
Kennedy is a mumbler, but she is very careful in what she says. Methinks it'll be a quiet, heads-down, dignified non-controversial 8 years before being picked by some odler Dem Gov in 2016 (named jim webb lol)
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what gaffes can a senator make? I mean, they read prepared shit on the floor all day. the only time they get in trouble is when their egos (Hi Joe Biden) make them blurt out shit to the cameras. Senators are fairly safe quote-machines. it's only when they run for office and get all bravado and shit, that they get in troble.
Kennedy is a mumbler, but she is very careful in what she says. Methinks it'll be a quiet, heads-down, dignified non-controversial 8 years before being picked by some odler Dem Gov in 2016 (named jim webb lol)
LOL you really think the press is going to let a kennedy have a quite political career...LOL this is new york as well man everywhere she goes shes going to have a camera in her face especially if she gets picked despite the FACT there are SO MANY more qualified ppl ahead of her including every other person holding a law degree which seems to be her main qualification for this job.
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LOL you really think the press is going to let a kennedy have a quite political career...LOL this is new york as well man everywhere she goes shes going to have a camera in her face especially if she gets picked despite the FACT there are SO MANY more qualified ppl ahead of her including every other person holding a law degree which seems to be her main qualification for this job.
Hilary had a very quiet first few years.
It's only when she decided to get on the campign trail that she was interviewed 24/7.
Seriously, they show up at work, they draft and vote on legislation, and they get in their cars and go home. The only time they're interviewed is when they choose to be. If Kennedy wants to spend 4 years being quiet and making political alliances behind the scene, she certainly can. Then 2 years of higher-profile things, and then 2 years of "pick me" work for the Vp slot.
Maybe YOU can tell us when they're mobbed by reporters?
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Hilary had a very quiet first few years.
It's only when she decided to get on the campign trail that she was interviewed 24/7.
Seriously, they show up at work, they draft and vote on legislation, and they get in their cars and go home. The only time they're interviewed is when they choose to be. If Kennedy wants to spend 4 years being quiet and making political alliances behind the scene, she certainly can. Then 2 years of higher-profile things, and then 2 years of "pick me" work for the Vp slot.
Maybe YOU can tell us when they're mobbed by reporters?
she isnt a run of the mill politician bro and the only reason why she is in the spot she is in is one of the reason she will get more press than anybody else her name alone will ensure that. Also the assinine way if she where to recieve the seat is another way imho why she will recieve more press every thing she does will be put under scrutiny.
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she isnt a run of the mill politician bro and the only reason why she is in the spot she is in is one of the reason she will get more press than anybody else her name alone will ensure that. Also the assinine way if she where to recieve the sit is another way imho why she will recieve more press every thing she does will be put under scrutiny.
No. Just, no.
Physically, reporters do not have access to senators unless the senators allow it.
They can talk about kennedy's vote on House resolution 2323482398, but how much ratings will that really buy?
Kennedy will vote along the party and be very consistent. She'll have a WEALTH of resrouces at her fingertips, and be on all the choice committee as all the dems kiss her ass.
in 2016, the nation will be very ready for a woman leader. i can't name anyone from either party who will be an 8-year senator or governor, with nationwide recognizability, daughter of a president for pete's sake, and unlimted $ for the campaign. Can you?
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No. Just, no.
Physically, reporters do not have access to senators unless the senators allow it.
They can talk about kennedy's vote on House resolution 2323482398, but how much ratings will that really buy?
Kennedy will vote along the party and be very consistent. She'll have a WEALTH of resrouces at her fingertips, and be on all the choice committee as all the dems kiss her ass.
in 2016, the nation will be very ready for a woman leader. i can't name anyone from either party who will be an 8-year senator or governor, with nationwide recognizability, daughter of a president for pete's sake, and unlimted $ for the campaign. Can you?
i agree with the access but again you dont have to have access to make light of an undeserving rich little brat who cant say 2 words without mumbling or saying you know?
So she will be a party shill, ya that will be great another most liberal senator...i dont think that will be very marketable.
What does being the daughter of a president have to do with this? absolutely nothing arent you one of the ones who was crusading against political dynasties?
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So she will be a party shill, ya that will be great another most liberal senator...i dont think that will be very marketable.
Wasn't Kerry the #1 or #2 most liberal senator in 2004?
He lost by one stage.
Wasn't Obama actually the #2 most liberal senator in 2008?
He won in a landslide.
Sounds marketable to me, champ.
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Wasn't Kerry the #1 or #2 most liberal senator in 2004?
He lost by one stage.
Wasn't Obama actually the #2 most liberal senator in 2008?
He won in a landslide.
Sounds marketable to me, champ.
LOL again your ignorance shines through, you should really get out of the habit of missing the forest for the trees bro. You focus so much on one aspect that you miss other aspects and other circumstance that led to that outcome.
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again your just wrong bro...actually my thread did just fine
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LOL again your ignorance shines through, you should really get out of the habit of missing the forest for the trees bro. You focus so much on one aspect that you miss other aspects and other circumstance that led to that outcome.
No, I think others here would agree. You said one thing:
ya that will be great another most liberal senator...i dont think that will be very marketable.
And I simply pointed out the last two most liberal senators won the nomination. One almost won the general election, and the other won by a large margin.
I disproved your point. You don't have to call me ignorant. Just say "Good point, 240" and move on to something else. You're being a sore loser on this one small point.
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No, I think others here would agree. You said one thing:
And I simply pointed out the last two most liberal senators won the nomination. One almost won the general election, and the other won by a large margin.
I disproved your point. You don't have to call me ignorant. Just say "Good point, 240" and move on to something else. You're being a sore loser on this one small point.
LOL you also didnt take into account that just about any democrat that ran this election probably would have won due to backlash from the bush administration but hey that doesnt need to be mentioned ::) Also that obama ran on a platform of bi partisanship but hey that doesnt need to be mentioned either huh? ::)
again you missed the forest for the trees.
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any democrat that ran this election probably would have won due to backlash from the bush administration
Mccain led on Intrade, Pollster, and Zogby (along with every other poll) on sept 12th, 2008.
So you know, unless Palin had done that pesky couric interview on sept 13th (which led to a gradual decline that never rebounded), he very well could have won.
There goes your theory, champ.
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Mccain led on Intrade, Pollster, and Zogby (along with every other poll) on sept 12th, 2008.
So you know, unless Palin had done that pesky couric interview on sept 13th (which led to a gradual decline that never rebounded), he very well could have won.
There goes your theory, champ.
obama led the majority of the campaign sport and you know this to be true you touted every single poll out there so mccain came out ahead for a week or two in polls that doesnt take away from the point.
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obama led the majority of the campaign sport and you know this to be true you touted every single poll out there so mccain came out ahead for a week or two in polls that doesnt take away from the point.
Obama led until the RNC convention, and it was very close for a month. mccain did lead in all of these indicators in mid-sept. we talked about it bigtime here. Some ppl said the race was over, yada yada.
Then, mccain let that tart open her mouth without a script, and, well, you know the rest.
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Obama led until the RNC convention, and it was very close for a month. mccain did lead in all of these indicators in mid-sept. we talked about it bigtime here. Some ppl said the race was over, yada yada.
Then, mccain let that tart open her mouth without a script, and, well, you know the rest.
again the fact that mccain led for a week or two doesnt change the fact that obama led the majority of the time, that just about any dem would have won this election, kennedy is grossly underqualified and not deserving or the fact that she shouldnt be given this seat.
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again the fact that mccain led for a week or two doesnt change the fact that obama led the majority of the time, that just about any dem would have won this election, kennedy is grossly underqualified and not deserving or the fact that she shouldnt be given this seat.
He made his selection, and Obama's lead was gone overnight.
Within 2 weeks, the nation loved her and mccain was up a steady 1-3% in polls, including the in state-by-states.
He shoulda won this thing. He blew it.
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Obama led until the RNC convention, and it was very close for a month. mccain did lead in all of these indicators in mid-sept. we talked about it bigtime here. Some ppl said the race was over, yada yada.
Then, mccain let that tart open her mouth without a script, and, well, you know the rest.
Thats not the reason idiot.The reason he lost was because he suspended his campaign and did nothing to stop the bailout.Period,end of story.She had nothing to do with it.Thats why she was drawing 60,000 in Florida and he was getting 10,000.Conservatives WOULDS NOT have come out at all for McCain,SHE was the draw.Get your facts straight.
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Mccain led on Intrade, Pollster, and Zogby (along with every other poll) on sept 12th, 2008.
So you know, unless Palin had done that pesky couric interview on sept 13th (which led to a gradual decline that never rebounded), he very well could have won.
There goes your theory, champ.
He lost because of "economy is solid" remark and the suspending his campaign only to back the TARP.
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Mccain led on Intrade, Pollster, and Zogby (along with every other poll) on sept 12th, 2008.
So you know, unless Palin had done that pesky couric interview on sept 13th (which led to a gradual decline that never rebounded), he very well could have won.
There goes your theory, champ.
After he suspended his campaign he went down by double digits in two weeks.It had nothing to do with Palin champ.
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After he suspended his campaign he went down by double digits in two weeks.It had nothing to do with Palin champ.
their campaign was getting slayed on the nightly news with a new clip each night of palin's idiocy.
I can name about ten people I know, who had no clue he suspended his campaign for 12 hours mid-week. But they sure can tell you about palin's idiotic quotes.
Tina fey was named entertainer of the year. Sure wasn't because of a one-day campaign stop. It was because of those clips we've seen 10,000 times.
Palin contributed to it sinking. Sure, his campaign suspension sunk it for a few people. But FAR more people knew about "I can see Russia from my house!"
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He lost because of "economy is solid" remark and the suspending his campaign only to back the TARP.
qft
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their campaign was getting slayed on the nightly news with a new clip each night of palin's idiocy.
I can name about ten people I know, who had no clue he suspended his campaign for 12 hours mid-week. But they sure can tell you about palin's idiotic quotes.
Tina fey was named entertainer of the year. Sure wasn't because of a one-day campaign stop. It was because of those clips we've seen 10,000 times.
Palin contributed to it sinking. Sure, his campaign suspension sunk it for a few people. But FAR more people knew about "I can see Russia from my house!"
The media did do that but the facts are his ratings dropped when the stockmarket dropped like a stone and he suspended his campaign.Thats a fact.You can try to blame Palin all you want but ignoring facts makes you look stupid.Also,isnt it amazing that the media will show her gaffs but TOTALLY ignore Joe Bidens mistakes.JOBS is a three letter word,the FDR comment,the idiotic performance at the debate where he made 7 mistakes,telling a cripple to stand up.The media ignored it.You hit the nail on the head.The media is behind the negative Palin stuff.
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The media did do that but the facts are his ratings dropped when the stockmarket dropped like a stone and he suspended his campaign.Thats a fact.You can try to blame Palin all you want but ignoring facts makes you look stupid.Also,isnt it amazing that the media will show her gaffs but TOTALLY ignore Joe Bidens mistakes.JOBS is a three letter word,the FDR comment,the idiotic performance at the debate where he made 7 mistakes,telling a cripple to stand up.The media ignored it.You hit the nail on the head.The media is behind the negative Palin stuff.
QFT on all accounts
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Don't forget the media infatuation with Obama, resulting in disproportionate positive news coverage, along with Obama buying a 30 minute infomercial in prime time on every major network (with only CNN refusing to run it). Unprecedented.
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Decision is coming next week.
Clinton's seat to be filled next week
Posted: 01:44 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
(CNN) — New York Gov. David Paterson said Friday he is prepared to announce who will replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate immediately after the presidential inauguration.
In an interview on New York radio station WFAN, Paterson said he had planned on making the announcement this weekend, but later decided the timing would be better next week.
"We now know that Sen. Clinton is going to be the secretary of state. She sailed through her committee hearing," Paterson said "I would probably have done it this weekend, but I decided I didn't want to trample on Sen. Clinton's ability to come back and say farewell to her constituents, or the inauguration."
"Right after the inauguration, I expect to be getting to that," he added.
Paterson, who alone has the power to appoint someone to replace Clinton for two years, also dismissed recent polls showing more New Yorkers want state Attorney Gen. Andrew Cuomo for the post rather than Caroline Kenedy.
"The polls go up and down, it was somebody else a few weeks ago," he said. "I think that's more name recognition. There are some great candidates who have distinguished themselves who are not as well known."
Two recent polls both showed Kennedy has lost significant support among New Yorkers since she first expressed interest in the job.
But ultimately, Paterson said, his job is not to pick the candidate who’s most popular at the moment.
"It's the person who is going to be popular in 2010, when they run for re-election," the New York governor said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
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Decision is coming next week.
Clinton's seat to be filled next week
Posted: 01:44 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
(CNN) — New York Gov. David Paterson said Friday he is prepared to announce who will replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate immediately after the presidential inauguration.
In an interview on New York radio station WFAN, Paterson said he had planned on making the announcement this weekend, but later decided the timing would be better next week.
"We now know that Sen. Clinton is going to be the secretary of state. She sailed through her committee hearing," Paterson said "I would probably have done it this weekend, but I decided I didn't want to trample on Sen. Clinton's ability to come back and say farewell to her constituents, or the inauguration."
"Right after the inauguration, I expect to be getting to that," he added.
Paterson, who alone has the power to appoint someone to replace Clinton for two years, also dismissed recent polls showing more New Yorkers want state Attorney Gen. Andrew Cuomo for the post rather than Caroline Kenedy.
"The polls go up and down, it was somebody else a few weeks ago," he said. "I think that's more name recognition. There are some great candidates who have distinguished themselves who are not as well known."
Two recent polls both showed Kennedy has lost significant support among New Yorkers since she first expressed interest in the job.
But ultimately, Paterson said, his job is not to pick the candidate who’s most popular at the moment.
"It's the person who is going to be popular in 2010, when they run for re-election," the New York governor said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
I dont think that will be Kennedy in 2010 YOU KNOW.Because ,YOU KNOW,she wont get a lot done YOU KNOW during the next two years.YOU KNOW.
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Decision is coming next week.
Clinton's seat to be filled next week
Posted: 01:44 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
(CNN) — New York Gov. David Paterson said Friday he is prepared to announce who will replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate immediately after the presidential inauguration.
In an interview on New York radio station WFAN, Paterson said he had planned on making the announcement this weekend, but later decided the timing would be better next week.
"We now know that Sen. Clinton is going to be the secretary of state. She sailed through her committee hearing," Paterson said "I would probably have done it this weekend, but I decided I didn't want to trample on Sen. Clinton's ability to come back and say farewell to her constituents, or the inauguration."
"Right after the inauguration, I expect to be getting to that," he added.
Paterson, who alone has the power to appoint someone to replace Clinton for two years, also dismissed recent polls showing more New Yorkers want state Attorney Gen. Andrew Cuomo for the post rather than Caroline Kenedy.
"The polls go up and down, it was somebody else a few weeks ago," he said. "I think that's more name recognition. There are some great candidates who have distinguished themselves who are not as well known."
Two recent polls both showed Kennedy has lost significant support among New Yorkers since she first expressed interest in the job.
But ultimately, Paterson said, his job is not to pick the candidate who’s most popular at the moment.
"It's the person who is going to be popular in 2010, when they run for re-election," the New York governor said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
WOW ::) yea its not the person who will represent the state the best or do the best job or who is most qualified its who will be more popular in the next election ::) again just fuking WOW
He already sounds like he is defending picking kennedy to the press, NY seems like a lovely place to live ::)
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WOW ::) yea its not the person who will represent the state the best or do the best job or who is most qualified its who will be more popular in the next election ::) again just fuking WOW
He already sounds like he is defending picking kennedy to the press, NY seems like a lovely place to live ::)
Its not if you care about these types of things.