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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: danielson on January 17, 2009, 02:32:24 PM
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I have been taking it for about a month and lost about 10 pounds, which is fine I had put on weight anyway. Why don't more people take it for weight loss? Bad side effects? Also, I can get Provigil and Adipex, anyone ever take those? My Doc won't give me a script for any of these, so they are kind of pricey and wanted some feedback from people who workout, don't feel like going to one of those drug addict forums and asking crackheads opinions. I was thinking of doing something like 5 days taking Aderall, 2 off, then switching to one of the other ones, 5 on and 2 off etc. My tolerance goes through the roof if I take the same thing for an extended period of time. Not sure if this is the right forum, but hopefully one of you guys have tried these.
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If your not prescribed it dont use it. Its an amphetamine so of course you can drop pounds on it as it cutts appetite but it also cutts into muscle mass. I get shitloads of concerta 36's legally but I dont ue it just sits in medicine shelf. its covered by insurance thats the only reason I fill the script.
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I have been taking it for about a month and lost about 10 pounds, which is fine I had put on weight anyway. Why don't more people take it for weight loss? Bad side effects? Also, I can get Provigil and Adipex, anyone ever take those? My Doc won't give me a script for any of these, so they are kind of pricey and wanted some feedback from people who workout, don't feel like going to one of those drug addict forums and asking crackheads opinions. I was thinking of doing something like 5 days taking Aderall, 2 off, then switching to one of the other ones, 5 on and 2 off etc. My tolerance goes through the roof if I take the same thing for an extended period of time. Not sure if this is the right forum, but hopefully one of you guys have tried these.
FUCK that's horrible for your brain. Find a way to quit.
We're talking atrophy of your brain, Danielson.
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Danny, do you think taking adderall is better for you than any other rec drug? Sometimes I think rec drugs are less harmful in the long run.
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Another garbage phamaceutical drug. Get off that shit Danny.
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Take a look at these, there's more but I don't know how much of it is available on the internet right now.:
What Psychologists and Therapists Need To Know About ADHD and Stimulants
http://www.breggin.com/whatpsychologists.pbreggin.2000.pdf
Cortical atrophy in young adults with a history of hyperactivity in childhood.
A computed tomographic (CT) brain scan study was conducted in 24 young males treated and followed up for hyperactivity since childhood. Compared to 27 matched controls, adults with a history of hyperactivity had a significantly greater frequency of cerebral atrophy. No differences in cerebellar atrophy frequency or in lateral cerebral ventricle-to-brain ratio (VBR) were found. The possible associations of hyperactivity or perhaps stimulant drug treatment to atrophic brain changes are discussed.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3704030?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
(There's far more, but I thought I'd share them with you in the meantime.)
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yeah bro dont use it to try to cut store it to use when you need to push through a day
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Thanks for the replies. Maybe I will just use them every once in a while, I have to think about it. How about Provigil? Supposed to be less addicting and lasts 12 hours. Has anyone tried it?
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Thanks for the replies. Maybe I will just use them every once in a while, I have to think about it. How about Provigil? Supposed to be less addicting and lasts 12 hours. Has anyone tried it?
I took it a few times. If I remember correctly made me less wired then adderall & similar drugs.
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Provigil is probably the mildest "brain stim" that you can find. I don't count adipex/obinex/fastin/phentermine because that is just unrefined garbage.
Focalin is a bit stronger than Provigil and will not have an affect on your appetite. Vyvnase is stronger still, way stronger than Focalin and it won't affect your appetite.
Adderall is stronger than Vyvnase and will definately hurt your eating. But if you simply MUST use it, get the XR compound, the regular tabs only give you a seesaw effect throughout the day with their short half lifes. The XR will last most of the day. If you take it at 7am, it will last until about 5PM. Vyvnase lasts just as long but without the sudden crash. You don't drop, instead you just mellow out.
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this is a terrible idea. just take clen. cheaper and more effective and you won't get addicted to it. i took adderall to study for finals in college, it is a drug. you can get addicted to it. 5 days on, 2 days off.. seriously?
in addition to all this, it's going to cut into muscle mass.
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Thanks for the replies. Maybe I will just use them every once in a while, I have to think about it. How about Provigil? Supposed to be less addicting and lasts 12 hours. Has anyone tried it?
dude your already an alcoholic.so needless to say you shouldnt be taking drugs.
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I havw taken adderall before for a short period of time. I do not have add, and only took it because I was working on a project and my level of concentration was amazing. I did loose weight as well. Since adderall is an amphetamine sulfite tab. it decreases appetite, and increases your core body temp. causing a thermogenic affect. Weight loss is an actual condition that adderall can be prescribed for, but this rarely if ever happens, but doctors are very well aware that weight loss is a side effect.
With that said, Adderall can be a great Medication, not "drug". However, if you don't have add, I would only use it for a specific purpose, project, a test, etc. But Never over a prolonged period of time. There are better ways to lose weight. And your body develops a tolerance to the adderall. Since you are taking it for it's clinical purpose, this will lead to you increasing your dose. When this starts to happen a Very common side effect is an extreme change in the persons mood. It won't happen right away, but over time you will become edgy, and not want to tolerate other people. Also, when you increase the dose to get the same effect you fall into an "overkill" state, and rather than gain concentration, you will lose it.
Hope that helped. Enjoy the weight loss, but you're better off with clen. or t-4 for that. As for the mental effects of the adderall, enjoy them when it is needed only. Unless you were prescribed adderall by your psychiatrist. In that case, it should be needed, and also should be taken daily, not 5 on 2 off. And if that's the case I would look into the new long acting adderall rather than the fast acting that most people take.
Best of luck.
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Provigil is God"s gift to the world! That's why the military gives it to their pilots and soldiers all over the world! I've been taking for about 2 months now, and its awesome. Say you only have 2 hours to sleep...take provigil right before you sleep and when you wake up you will feel like you slept for a hundred years. It also improves meomory and brain function.
My insurance covers it at $40 per month for any dose. If I do the mail order prescription thing than it's even cheaper...I think its like $30 per month, dont remember. Most doctors will prescribe it for off label use for shift work. I'll I did was tell him I was working two jobs with crazy hours changing all the time....and I need provigil. Say you have no health problems or history of drug abuse, and it's a done deal. It's incredible. It makes you more alert and functionable than ephedrine and adderal, but no jittery or anxiousness at all. I usally take it when I wake up and toward the end of the day take a caffine pill and it jumps start the provigil again and I feel even better than in the begginng of the day. Also I recommend taking an asprin a few hours after you take provigil the first few days......I didn't get a headache but My head felt different, but after the aspirin I felt great!
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nope never taken it, but when i was in college lots of kids did around test days.
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I quit them last Sunday. When I started taking them, I would split a 30 mg. pill in half and take half in the morning and half at lunchtime. A week later I needed double. After a month or so I was taking 8 a day, fuck that. I'll stick to ephedrine.
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I quit them last Sunday. When I started taking them, I would split a 30 mg. pill in half and take half in the morning and half at lunchtime. A week later I needed double. After a month or so I was taking 8 a day, fuck that. I'll stick to ephedrine.
Wise move.
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I have been taking it for about a month and lost about 10 pounds, which is fine I had put on weight anyway. Why don't more people take it for weight loss? Bad side effects? Also, I can get Provigil and Adipex, anyone ever take those? My Doc won't give me a script for any of these, so they are kind of pricey and wanted some feedback from people who workout, don't feel like going to one of those drug addict forums and asking crackheads opinions. I was thinking of doing something like 5 days taking Aderall, 2 off, then switching to one of the other ones, 5 on and 2 off etc. My tolerance goes through the roof if I take the same thing for an extended period of time. Not sure if this is the right forum, but hopefully one of you guys have tried these.
I have tried Ritalin and it does work.
No experience with Adderall, however.
DIV
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They we're great for me in college, got my threw some days that the night before was rough!
Far as with gear? Nah...But I never took no more than 30mg a day...I was like the energizer bunny on that stuff
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They we're great for me in college, got my threw some days that the night before was rough!
Far as with gear? Nah...But I never took no more than 30mg a day...I was like the energizer bunny on that stuff
I took 240 mgs. last Saturday. I had to quit them, my tolerance for drugs is different than most peoples. I was tired for a few days afterwards, just took 24 tabs of ephedrine to get me through.
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I took 240 mgs. last Saturday. I had to quit them, my tolerance for drugs is different than most peoples. I was tired for a few days afterwards, just took 24 tabs of ephedrine to get me through.
is there a reason you feel the need to fill your body with drugs and alcohol?no flame just a question.
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is there a reason you feel the need to fill your body with drugs and alcohol?no flame just a question.
I am not sure. I drink about 5 nights a week, only 2 nights excessively usually. I take sedatives, Xanax or Valium, but not that much really. Usually 10 mgs. of Valium or 1 mg. of Xanax at night. I take ephedrine as well, but that's about it. Is that excessive?
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I took 240 mgs. last Saturday. I had to quit them, my tolerance for drugs is different than most peoples. I was tired for a few days afterwards, just took 24 tabs of ephedrine to get me through.
wow... :o
You sound like a friend of mine, and now he's on the list waiting on a liver transplant...becareful bro!
Well he did all adderall and ephedrine, and some xanax...but that combined with alcohol and gear orals...only took 2 years for his liver to kick the bucket..now he's fighting for life
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I am not sure. I drink about 5 nights a week, only 2 nights excessively usually. I take sedatives, Xanax or Valium, but not that much really. Usually 10 mgs. of Valium or 1 mg. of Xanax at night. I take ephedrine as well, but that's about it. Is that excessive?
if your being serious then I feel sorry for you bro..don't know your age and how long you been consuming all that but if you continue that drug use mixed with your alcohol consumption your in for some ruff times.
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if your being serious then I feel sorry for you bro..don't know your age and how long you been consuming all that but if you continue that drug use mixed with your alcohol consumption your in for some ruff times.
Really? Most people have a few drinks at night and the Doc prescribes me sedatives. Seems normal to me.
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Really? Most people have a few drinks at night and the Doc prescribes me sedatives. Seems normal to me.
the doc's drugs kill more people yearly than street drugs..once again why take the shit in the first place?Are you sick?Are you mental?you seem like an addict to me.as a matter of fact if you quit drinking and using that shit cold turkey the withdrawl alone could kill you.I just don't get why people would want to be so dependent on these things just to get you threw the day.
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the doc's drugs kill more people yearly than street drugs..once again why take the shit in the first place?Are you sick?Are you mental?you seem like an addict to me.as a matter of fact if you quit drinking and using that shit cold turkey the withdrawl alone could kill you.I just don't get why people would want to be so dependent on these things just to get you threw the day.
In the real world, away from Getbig where people literally weigh their food, people drink alcohol. Sedatives help me relax so I use them sparingly. I don't think what I take is excessive at all.
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In the real world, away from Getbig where people literally weigh their food, people drink alcohol. Sedatives help me relax so I use them sparingly. I don't think what I take is excessive at all.
OK...I happen to live in the real world to..and I don't need to take a pill to relax.I drink alcohol as well but if you think five times a week is moderation once again I feel sorry for you.Once again I'm not flaming but you can't tell a junkie anything because they rationalize there drug use till the end..good luck bro..you will need it.
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OK...I happen to live in the real world to..and I don't need to take a pill to relax.I drink alcohol as well but if you think five times a week is moderation once again I feel sorry for you.Once again I'm not flaming but you can't tell a junkie anything because they rationalize there drug use till the end..good luck bro..you will need it.
So when you go to lunch with co-workers, you don't get a beer? Or wine with dinner?
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I am not sure. I drink about 5 nights a week, only 2 nights excessively usually. I take sedatives, Xanax or Valium, but not that much really. Usually 10 mgs. of Valium or 1 mg. of Xanax at night. I take ephedrine as well, but that's about it. Is that excessive?
So you take benzos in these "moderate" doses every night? If so I bet it's not nice knowing you can't just stop them or even just skip a few nights. They cause depression in the long term as well.
Could you go a week with zero alcohol or benzos?
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So you take benzos in these "moderate" doses every night? If so I bet it's not nice knowing you can't just stop them or even just skip a few nights. They cause depression in the long term as well.
Could you go a week with zero alcohol or benzos?
Alcohol yes, benzos no.
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Alcohol yes, benzos no.
You are an addict, Danielson.
When you have your withdrawals you're going to wish you'd never used benzos or alcohol. :-X
DIV
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You are an addict, Danielson.
When you have your withdrawals you're going to wish you'd never used benzos or alcohol. :-X
DIV
I know, never claimed otherwise. Compared to what I used to take(40 vikes a day or 320 mgs. of oxys) I am doing pretty good I think. At any rate, I am cool taking a small amount of sedatives, I won't have WD's, I have not run out in 10 plus years.
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I know, never claimed otherwise. Compared to what I used to take(40 vikes a day or 320 mgs. of oxys) I am doing pretty good I think. At any rate, I am cool taking a small amount of sedatives, I won't have WD's, I have not run out in 10 plus years.
Why can't you work it to where you need maybe one or two per day.
Something manageable?
DIV
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Why can't you work it to where you need maybe one or two per day.
Something manageable?
DIV
I take one sedative a day right now. Sometimes 2.
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I take one sedative a day right now. Sometimes 2.
Let's cut it down to one, danielson.
One when you wake up, then let it ride for the rest of the day.
DIV
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Let's cut it down to one, danielson.
One when you wake up, then let it ride for the rest of the day.
DIV
I take it at night. Usually with a drink or 2.
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I take it at night. Usually with a drink or 2.
Danielson,
It's not good to take benzos with alcohol.
At least you're down to two per day.
You're on the edge of abuse.
DIV
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I am not sure. I drink about 5 nights a week, only 2 nights excessively usually. I take sedatives, Xanax or Valium, but not that much really. Usually 10 mgs. of Valium or 1 mg. of Xanax at night. I take ephedrine as well, but that's about it. Is that excessive?
First of all, WHY are you taking them? Are you using them just to calm yourself enough to sleep?
It seems like you are roller-coastering with the stims involved.
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i was on provigil for a year or so. the effects wear thin if taken everyday... ive been off and on adderall for years. never any problems with the drug. i take half in the morning and half after lunch. effects are great....
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i was on provigil for a year or so. the effects wear thin if taken everyday... ive been off and on adderall for years. never any problems with the drug. i take half in the morning and half after lunch. effects are great....
Welcome to the forum, electric d! It's great to have a new member, and I look forward to our productive intellectual exchange. ;)
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thanks bro... its a pleasure to be here.
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thanks bro... its a pleasure to be here.
You know that early afternoon energy dip? It's part of a natural cycle in the brain. The biochemical resources for optimal functioning naturally drop at this time. When this happens, combat it with a quick but very intense exercise. Do a few sets to failure on a compound movement.
That will kick your shit into shape, breaking that "brain lock," and releasing brain-derived neurotophic factor (BDNF), IGF-1, VEGF, and VEGF-1, which will promote the growth of new brain cells. Yes, fresh brand-spankin new brain cells. After that, you'll be feeling like a million bucks and you'll be able to concentrate incredibly well through the remainder of the day. :)