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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: MichaelScottDM on January 18, 2009, 07:13:38 PM
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
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That's a lot of grape drink...
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kind of funny how 4 years ago the media threw a fit when Bush had a big inauguration since we were at war
well we're still at war, the economy is terrible and Barry is having the biggest inauguration in history and not a word out of the media
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
AND?
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I know it's a major American event, but oh, how wonderful it would've been if they'd held a quiet little ceremony in the White House?
BUT, the thing is, although I hate this type of extravagant spending, the $150 million being spent is expected to generate at least $500 million in revenue for the DC area, so that's an excellent ROI.
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I know it's a major American event, but oh, how wonderful it would've been if they'd held a quiet little ceremony in the White House?
BUT, the thing is, although I hate this type of extravagant spending, the $150 million being spent is expected to generated at least $500 million in revenue for the DC area, so that's an excellent ROI.
agreed on both points. I think hotel rooms were 500-600 per night on average, and you had to book for 3 nights? The US economy will end up ahead after this week's events, the world will see the USA as clearly sending Bushco packing.
And there are 2 to 3 million people who are going to come out and show their support for our leadership. Does anyone really think Bush could get 3 million people in one place for anything?
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It will be a truly historic moment, jackass. Millions turning up.
A "crock of shit"? He's our commander and chief, so have some respect you stupid sack of shit.
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MCDonalds will be doing great
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I know it's a major American event, but oh, how wonderful it would've been if they'd held a quiet little ceremony in the White House?
BUT, the thing is, although I hate this type of extravagant spending, the $150 million being spent is expected to generate at least $500 million in revenue for the DC area, so that's an excellent ROI.
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It will be a truly historic moment, jackass. Millions turning up.
A "crock of shit"? He's our commander and chief, so have some respect you stupid sack of shit.
Meltdown.
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All of you complaining about this are "racial" >:(
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
you're trying to get getwhite racist going on this one. unfortunately...he is turning a profit for the city and surrounding areas. i'm sure hotel, restaurant, transportation owers and many others are b###hing.
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agreed on both points. I think hotel rooms were 500-600 per night on average, and you had to book for 3 nights? The US economy will end up ahead after this week's events, the world will see the USA as clearly sending Bushco packing.
And there are 2 to 3 million people who are going to come out and show their support for our leadership. Does anyone really think Bush could get 3 million people in one place for anything?
3 million if the government was executing him... Unfortunately people are too stupid to understand he was looking out for what he thought was the best for the country and trying to keep the U.S safe. He did some things wrong and admits that. I think he will be vindicated sooner or later.
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3 million if the government was executing him... Unfortunately people are too stupid to understand he was looking out for what he thought was the best for the country and trying to keep the U.S safe. He did some things wrong and admits that. I think he will be vindicated sooner or later.
...thinking is for smart people.
The Luke
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I see Haterade sales are still going strong despite a weak economy. :)
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
...& your point?
How much has the Iraq war cost so far?
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kind of funny how 4 years ago the media threw a fit when Bush had a big inauguration since we were at war
well we're still at war, the economy is terrible and Barry is having the biggest inauguration in history and not a word out of the media
you mean except for the MEDIA LINK IN THE ORIGINAL POST? oh and all these:
http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/01/19/top_stories/doc497425bfcc7aa250391205.txt
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20090118/OPINION04/901180336/1041/OPINION
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090117/ap_on_go_pr_wh/inauguration_spending
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28707475/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/14/barack-obama-inauguration-cost
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1396888/obama_inauguration_to_cost_150_million.html?cat=9
it took me a whole 30 seconds to find those. there were a few hundred more. ::)
a genuine question: when you idiots claim that "the media" isn't talking about something, do you actually check? or do you just say it?
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...& your point?
How much has the Iraq war cost so far?
A mere pittance compared to the $7 trillion dollar spending plan this marxist has planned.
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I know it's a major American event, but oh, how wonderful it would've been if they'd held a quiet little ceremony in the White House?
BUT, the thing is, although I hate this type of extravagant spending, the $150 million being spent is expected to generate at least $500 million in revenue for the DC area, so that's an excellent ROI.
In the DC area. Did you forget about the rest of the economy?
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A mere pittance compared to the $7 trillion dollar spending plan this marxist has planned.
A mere pittance compared to the $9 trillion dollar Bush spent to bailout his Saudi banking masters... or the $5 trillion Bush borrowed to help bankrupt America and rob everyone's 401k.
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A mere pittance compared to the $7 trillion dollar spending plan this marxist has planned.
So you were against Bush's bailout?
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A mere pittance compared to the $9 trillion dollar Bush spent to bailout his Saudi banking masters... or the $5 trillion Bush borrowed to help bankrupt America and rob everyone's 401k.
The Luke
Spoken like a true Liberal!
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A mere pittance compared to the $7 trillion dollar spending plan this marxist has planned.
How about if your hero Bush didn't get us involved in Iraq in the first place?
Note: I understand Coach that it would be ok to spend three times this amount on the Inauguration is McCain/Palin ticket had won.
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Meltdown.
indeed, alcoholic beverage induced meltdown
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Coach, I guess it's a good thing we didn't invest people's social security in the stock market like Bush wanted too right? ;)
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In the DC area. Did you forget about the rest of the economy?
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the inauguration cost is being SPENT in the DC area. if it's made back threefold, what are you bitching about?
and you're still wrong about his spending plan. you need to stop getting all of your talking points from rush and start reading things like studies done by the tax policy center. that "$7 billion" number is not only exaggerated but seems to forget about government income by way of taxes and such. it's been fact for months now that McCain's plan would have lost a shitload more money than Obama's, not to mention the hilarious fact that our "tax and spend" Clinton left Bush with a giant surplus that the "fiscal conservative" turned into a terrifying deficit.
i don't care what your political views are, i care that you're an ignorant parrot who listens to rush or hannity and then just vomits up the same talking points without actually reading anything. be a conservative, that's fine, but for the love of whatever god you feel like praying to, don't insult our intelligence by thinking you can't parrot some radio loudmouth and people will think you know what you're talking about.
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How bad would McCain/Palin have lost if the banking/housing/auto crisis hadn't been magically delayed until after the election? The same people who cried Marxism just threw blank checks at millionaires.
We just gave automakers a loan for their market share, LOL!
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Cheers...let's all have a drink & enjoy the celebration!
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Cheers...let's all have a drink & enjoy the celebration!
Huh, no thanks, it's just another day at the office for me. I hope Obama does well, but considering the cards he has been dealt are not in his favor, I don't expect him to do much.. Saber rattling and stump speeches.
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How bad would McCain/Palin have lost if the banking/housing/auto crisis hadn't been magically delayed until after the election? The same people who cried Marxism just threw blank checks at millionaires.
We just gave automakers a loan for their market share, LOL!
liberals give handouts to people, conservatives give them to corporations. and then the latter has the audacity to call the former a socialist.
of course, that's partly because conservatives have NO FARKING CLUE what the word "socialist" actually means, but i digress.
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Huh, no thanks, it's just another day at the office for me. I hope Obama does well, but considering the cards he has been dealt are not in his favor, I don't expect him to do much.. Saber rattling and stump speeches.
...well have a drink when you get home then. ;D
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liberals give handouts to people, conservatives give them to corporations. and then the latter has the audacity to call the former a socialist.
of course, that's partly because conservatives have NO FARKING CLUE what the word "socialist" actually means, but i digress.
Conservatives give tax breaks to corporations to make more jobs to employ those without a job. It is up to the person to actually work, instead of getting a liberal handout.
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...well have a drink when you get home then. ;D
Yeah, I can toast the second coming of Christ. haha!
I have some glenlevit scotch. I will drink to good health, since no one seems to have money. :)
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Yeah, I can toast the second coming of Christ. haha!
I have some glenlevit scotch. I will drink to good health, since no one seems to have money. :)
Come to Michigan...I've got some 18 year old Glenlivet sitting in the cabinet. ;D
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Come to Michigan...I've got some 18 year old Glenlivet sitting in the cabinet. ;D
Maybe one day I will take you up on that. I used to work for an airline, tickets were cheap, then the airline industry took a dump.
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Maybe one day I will take you up on that. I used to work for an airline, tickets were cheap, then the airline industry took a dump.
I always keep good Scotch/Whiskey on hand...Johnny Walker Blue, Green, Glenlivet...
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Conservatives give tax breaks to corporations to make more jobs to employ those without a job. It is up to the person to actually work, instead of getting a liberal handout.
yeah, except it doesn't work like that. conservatives for decades have bleated that when you give oodles of money to the top, it'll "trickle down" to those at the bottom. unfortunately, every time corporations get tax breaks, they use them to generate extra profit.
ever noticed that every year it seems like giant companies, even the ones going bankrupt (especially in the last few months) still seem to find enough money to give their CEO's multi-million dollar bonuses or enormous severance packages? it's a law of the jungle, if you give these guys billions of dollars, why would they spend it on anyone but themselves?
there's a good reason conservatives pushed a "stimulus package" that gave money back to everyone. it is an irrefutable fact that giving $100 to a million middle-class people will help the economy more than a million dollars to a hundred wealthy people. when you read news stories about AIG giving its executives $15 million or whatever else, that's the result of your "trickle down" theory.
honestly, how long does this have to keep going before you guys pick up that free money for the wealthy but social darwinism for everyone else just plain doesn't work? ???
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liberals give handouts to people, conservatives give them to corporations. and then the latter has the audacity to call the former a socialist.
of course, that's partly because conservatives have NO FARKING CLUE what the word "socialist" actually means, but i digress.
Those corporations just reparations, LOL!
Bush was an all around disappointment. Someone claiming to be fiscally conservative has grown the Govt, given everything away, spent us into a deficit and started a useless war.
All politicians suck and none of them can be trusted. The only advantage to the new presidency is we might be out of Iraq 1 year sooner and the clean-up in Iran will end up being humanitarian and probably not infrastructure.
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Those corporations just reparations, LOL!
Bush was an all around disappointment. Someone claiming to be fiscally conservative has grown the Govt, given everything away, spent us into a deficit and started a useless war.
All politicians suck and none of them can be trusted. The only advantage to the new presidency is we might be out of Iraq 1 year sooner and the clean-up in Iran will end up being humanitarian and probably not infrastructure.
anyone expecting miracles out of obama is going to be massively disappointed, mostly because he's in a horribly tight spot right now. not a lot of wiggle room. most of his first term will be damage control, repairing america's standing worldwide (for the past three years i've heard the term "the end of pax americana"), getting out of iraq, rebuilding the economy, etc.
that said, even if all he can do is bring everything to a halt and ever so slowly turn things around, that's way better than a McCain administration that would have just happily dumped gas onto the inferno.
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I hope that Obama is not just another "american rockstar"...
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agreed on both points. I think hotel rooms were 500-600 per night on average, and you had to book for 3 nights? The US economy will end up ahead after this week's events, the world will see the USA as clearly sending Bushco packing.
And there are 2 to 3 million people who are going to come out and show their support for our leadership. Does anyone really think Bush could get 3 million people in one place for anything?
if obama sacrificed a virgin to osirus on the whitehouse lawn and you would find some way of putting a positive spin on it. ::)
obama is going waaay over the score - taking lincons train ride, hiring every famous pop star to perform, etc.
he is truly pathetic. He has already been turned by the celebrity and fame ::)
when will he actually do 'something' when is this 'change' expected to take place ::)
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America never seizes to amaze me.
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America never seizes ceases to amaze me.
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America never seizes to amaze me.
me neither, that is why it is the greatest country in the world. That is why everyone wants to come and live here and that is why every other country wants us to topple and fall. Because they can't be any where as successful as the "citizens" of the USA...
I know it sounds arrogant but the United States was made a great country by not bending over and taking it from other countries.
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me neither, that is why it is the greatest country in the world. That is why everyone wants to come and live here and that is why every other country wants us to topple and fall. Because they can't be any where as successful as the "citizens" of the USA...
I know it sounds arrogant but the United States was made a great country by not bending over and taking it from other countries.
break a leg in tha states and you're in dept your entire life lol.
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break a leg in tha states and you're in dept your entire life lol.
maybe so but I would be alive.
Break a leg some where else, and have your leg rot off from gangrene... and then die.. That would suck more I think..
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That's a lot of grape drink...
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Coach, I guess it's a good thing we didn't invest people's social security in the stock market like Bush wanted too right? ;)
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agreed on both points. I think hotel rooms were 500-600 per night on average, and you had to book for 3 nights? The US economy will end up ahead after this week's events, the world will see the USA as clearly sending Bushco packing.
Does anyone really think Bush could get 3 million people in one place for anything?
Exactly my point, right now Obama is the main topic in the whole planet For some reason he's seen like some kind of modern savior, and the US needs that image after all the "mess"... the media will make a lot of $$$$$ out of this inaugaration regarding sponsorship.
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So you were against Bush's bailout?
Totally against it.
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Exactly my point, right now Obama is the main topic in the whole planet For some reason he's seen like some kind of modern savior, and the US needs that image after all the "mess"... the media will make a lot of $$$$$ out of this inaugaration regarding sponsorship.
yeah, the inauguration is actually good for the economy.
And look at it this way - if he did scale back - you'd have the guys like Rush and Hannity pointing out that the Bush inauguration jetiisoned this many hundreds of millions of dollars into the economy - and that Obama cheated hardworking decent people out of that revenue stream...
They're going to bitch either way. This is why America saw them as, well, whiny bitches, and voted 'other guy' in 2008.
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yeah, the inauguration is actually good for the economy.
And look at it this way - if he did scale back - you'd have the guys like Rush and Hannity pointing out that the Bush inauguration jetiisoned this many hundreds of millions of dollars into the economy - and that Obama cheated hardworking decent people out of that revenue stream...
They're going to bitch either way. This is why America saw them as, well, whiny bitches, and voted 'other guy' in 2008.
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Big day for the blacks of America. Media is playing it up that this is all about the blacks and f-u to the other 275 million americans in this country.
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don't eat any carbs while you're watching it "mon of steele" or you'll get so pumped that you'll pop the buttons on your shirt. :D
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Coach, I guess it's a good thing we didn't invest people's social security in the stock market like Bush wanted too right? ;)
Well considering our social security was bankrupt by the dems long ago, it's still not a bad idea. Even though I don't like what Bush did over the last couple of months, he wouldn't have had to do it at all if it wasn't for Barney Frank, Paulson and everyother dem who their handout in Country Wide, Freddie/Fannie,voted against regulation, etc ,etc,etc.
You freaking libs kill me when you try to solely place the blame on one person......Bush. Again Libs=lack of commonsense.
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don't eat any carbs while you're watching it "mon of steele" or you'll get so pumped that you'll pop the buttons on your shirt. :D
I know you'll be watching since your step-child is a half breed.
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Well considering our social security was bankrupt by the dems long ago, it's still not a bad idea. Even though I don't like what Bush did over the last couple of months, he wouldn't have had to do it at all if it wasn't for Barney Frank, Paulson and everyother dem who their handout in Country Wide, Freddie/Fannie,voted against regulation, etc ,etc,etc.
You freaking libs kill me when you try to solely place the blame on one person......Bush. Again Libs=lack of commonsense.
Always someone else's fault. You lack responsibility...
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I know you'll be watching since your step-child is a half breed.
hahahaha, ok "big guy" just don't scare your co workers with your brutally imtimidating muscle mass in the microwave line anymore ok? ;D
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its setting you guys 150 million dollar more back into the recession so you better watch it ::)
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yeah, the inauguration is actually good for the economy.
And look at it this way - if he did scale back - you'd have the guys like Rush and Hannity pointing out that the Bush inauguration jetiisoned this many hundreds of millions of dollars into the economy - and that Obama cheated hardworking decent people out of that revenue stream...
They're going to bitch either way. This is why America saw them as, well, whiny bitches, and voted 'other guy' in 2008.
And people STILL don't realize why they voted for "the other guy". The only change is "the other guy" is black (1/2) and biggest liberal in Washington. Now the "the other guy" thinks he's Abraham Lincoln!!
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Always someone else's fault. You lack responsibility...
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Do the research. And if you REALLY did the research you'd actually find it started with Clinton.
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I have better things to do than to watch Obama zombies get conned.
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I have better things to do than to watch Obama zombies get conned.
Translation... Im still bitter over the election and completely baffled why no one would want Sarah Palin as VP
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Imagine all those people trying to be part of 'history' just to be suckered into over priced hotel rooms, fake tickets to inaugural parties, crowed parade routes with limited vision and the traffic jam trying to leave DC when its all said and done. The best seat for all the events are at home, but I'm not going to watch it. No time to 'party', there are important things to do first.
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Do the research. And if you REALLY did the research you'd actually find it started with Clinton.
Citing Rush Limbaugh as my source?
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is there enough fried chicken and RED kool aid in the world for this monumental event?
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is there enough fried chicken and RED kool aid in the world for this monumental event?
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what time is it going to be? I have classes tomorrow
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You cant rebuild orleans or help the katrina victims but you can waste 150 million dollars on a party?
all heil america worst terrorist nation in the world
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I have to do a Inauguration party tomorrow night for about eighty. It's a huge day in history. Hopefully this fella can get the World back on track? God Bless America.
(http://www.greatestcities.com/2274pic/930/CP35930.jpg/AmericanFlag.jpeg)
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Big day for the blacks of America. Media is playing it up that this is all about the blacks and f-u to the other 275 million americans in this country.
I am. If you have a problem with that then its too bad. Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years
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I have to do a Inauguration party tomorrow night for about eighty. It's a huge day in history. Hopefully this fella can get the World back on track? God Bless America.
(http://www.greatestcities.com/2274pic/930/CP35930.jpg/AmericanFlag.jpeg)
hahaha, you and "mon of steele" should get together and trade bullshit stories back and forth, that would be way more entertaining than the inauguration.
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I am. If you have a problem with that then its too bad. Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years 3 months
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I am. If you have a problem with that then its too bad. Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years
The only "change" is that he's black and marxist.
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Vince, I thought the black race kicked you out? Why you still representing home skillet?
I am. If you have a problem with that then its too bad. Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years
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I`ll be training ................too many goals to acheive!! :)
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BUT, the thing is, although I hate this type of extravagant spending, the $150 million being spent is expected to generate at least $500 million in revenue for the DC area, so that's an excellent ROI.
Link please to an unbiased media source that actually sayst it will generate at least $500 million.
While expect it to generate revenue in DC, how does anyone know it will be that much?
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Do the research. And if you REALLY did the research you'd actually find it started with Clinton.
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Bill Clinton had a republican congress
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Link please to an unbiased media source that actually sayst it will generate at least $500 million.
While expect it to generate revenue in DC, how does anyone know it will be that much?
http://fpc.state.gov/114512.htm
There are *many* people renting out their homes for anywhere from $400-1000 or more per night and it's unlikely we'll see that income reported. BUT, that tax-free money is going to be used by those property owners/tenants to buy other things.
I've seen other places say they're expecting a million people to join in the festivities...$500/per person actually seems like a low estimate, even if half of that million are from the region and would be spending less.
This could very well be the billion-dollar inauguration.
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Fair enough
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I'll be busy taking a dump.
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The only "change" is that he's black and marxist.
Coach, what do you know about AFDC :)?
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Coach, what do you know about AFDC :)?
They sing Back in Black... 8)
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I'm not wild about the expense of the inauguration either and while it will probably cause a good return in the DC area, that doesn't mean much outside of that area.
The inauguration is more symbolic anyway and Obama has proved to be an impressive icon. See, no matter if Bush made good or bad decisions, his mistake (even more so with Chenney) was that he was disconnected with the public. He didn't communicate with us like Reagan did. (nor did he have the skill like Obama and Reagan). The average person knows shit about Washington, but they do watch tv and have an impression of the president.
Obama will do very well if he governs from the middle, he speaks well, does well in front of the camera, seems to be able to compromise, is a master politician, and most people feel connected to him so far. As long as there are good solid decisions made behind the scene, the president doesn't need to be the most capable individual. He needs to know how to use the strength of others around him, govern perception and lead.
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Coach, what do you know about AFDC :)?
It's essentially another welfare program, a handout if you will. What about it?
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Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years
Amen.
People, in the coming years, the amount of outrighT theft, constitutional violations, and other breaks in the law that this admin got away with...
Well, let's just say that Obama will have job security. Any time he needs to remind people of the alternative, he just has to allow another investigation into the last 8 years. Hell, the white hous is STILL fighting to have all those "emails we sent to each other right before 9-11" from being revealed. Turns out they were backed up after all. What in the world would they be hiding? ;)
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Amen.
People, in the coming years, the amount of outrigth theft, constitutional violations, and other breaks in the law that this admin got away with...
Well, let's just say that Obama will have job security. Any time he needs to remind people of the alternative, he just has to allow another investigation into the last 8 years. Hell, the white hous is STILL fighting to have all those "emails we sent to each other right before 9-11" from being revealed. Turns out they were backed up after all. What in the world would they be hiding? ;)
240, please pass the peyote...
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It's essentially another welfare program, a handout if you will. What about it?
A welfare program created by Clinton that was passed by the majority republican congress :)
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I'm not wild about the expense of the inauguration either and while it will probably cause a good return in the DC area, that doesn't mean much outside of that area.
The inauguration is more symbolic anyway and Obama has proved to be an impressive icon. See, no matter if Bush made good or bad decisions, his mistake (even more so with Chenney) was that he was disconnected with the public. He didn't communicate with us like Reagan did. (nor did he have the skill like Obama and Reagan). The average person knows shit about Washington, but they do watch tv and have an impression of the president.
Obama will do very well if he governs from the middle, he speaks well, does well in front of the camera, seems to be able to compromise, is a master politician, and most people feel connected to him so far. As long as there are good solid decisions made behind the scene, the president doesn't need to be the most capable individual. He needs to know how to use the strength of others around him and lead.
I agree, but very little he says would suggest that. It was just the other day during a speech when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, "we cannot do anything without the government". That alone should tell you something.
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I will be happy when one day we can stop talking about black Americans as different than the rest of Americans. The media seems fixated on being black or the black experience in the past year.
I understand this is a historic event and deserves national focus, but America is a melting pot of everyone. My russian friends have noticed this... blacks account for approx 13% of the population, but the media focuses on black Americans more than other races of Americans. Hopefully, with Obama elected, we can decrease the focus on 1 particular color of American and blend more as "Americans". It has happened already, but the media has refocused on this recently.
We must be compassionate to the evils of history but must move forward as a mixed race nation. Now is also a good time to stop affirmative action programs and really treat all Americans as equals.
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I coudln't give a shit if obama was white, black, or purple.
Get someone in who will stop giving billions away to corporate interests.
Guess what everyone... sometimes you DO have to give $ to the poor folks, so they spend it, which stimulates the economy and makes your 401k worth more. The alternative is giving it to corporations and rich people. Rich people hoard it, and corps use it to open plants in china (which in turn leaves jobs from USA).
I'm as anti-handout as they come - but I do admit that sometimes, in the national economic cycle, you have to give some $ to the broke to stimulate spending so that the middle class' investments dont falter. Make sense?
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Amen.
People, in the coming years, the amount of outrighT theft, constitutional violations, and other breaks in the law that this admin got away with...
Well, let's just say that Obama will have job security. Any time he needs to remind people of the alternative, he just has to allow another investigation into the last 8 years. Hell, the white hous is STILL fighting to have all those "emails we sent to each other right before 9-11" from being revealed. Turns out they were backed up after all. What in the world would they be hiding? ;)
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I coudln't give a shit if obama was white, black, or purple.
Get someone in who will stop giving billions away to corporate interests.
Guess what everyone... sometimes you DO have to give $ to the poor folks, so they spend it, which stimulates the economy and makes your 401k worth more. The alternative is giving it to corporations and rich people. Rich people hoard it, and corps use it to open plants in china (which in turn leaves jobs from USA).
I'm as anti-handout as they come - but I do admit that sometimes, in the national economic cycle, you have to give some $ to the broke to stimulate spending so that the middle class' investments dont falter. Make sense?
This is correct. The difference between the people who spend and save is that the ones who spend work for the ones who save. People who save in a sense are a danger to the economy which is why money should be funneled through the poor. It makes everyone benefit.
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maybe so but I would be alive.
Break a leg some where else, and have your leg rot off from gangrene... and then die.. That would suck more I think..
If you break your leg in UK they will fixe you... for FREE.
and btw. about the situation that we in right now. economy, war and bla bla bla.
who's to blame the american people = the voters.
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That's a lot of grape drink...
you mean fruit punch I think that is what they like
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Giving handouts to the poor only is very debateable on its stimulatory effects on the economy. Very poor people do not create jobs. IMO, a strong middle class and job creation is key. Solving the financial and home crisis is also key. Handouts only to the poor and only to corporations are not only questionable as to its stimulatory effects but are not fair either.
Cut taxes across the board and cut spending! We need to cut corporate taxation and give companies incentives to stay in the US rather than move plants abroad. We have the 2nd highest corporate taxation rate in the world.
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A welfare program created by Clinton that was passed by the majority republican congress :)
No, AFDC was created back in the 30's.
Clinton's program was supposed to be different, but it's the same turd with a different bow on it.
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I'm as anti-handout as they come - but I do admit that sometimes...
I'm generally anti-handout, too, but when I got my former spouse pregnant, we had no health insurance and she was unwilling to terminate the pregnancy (and of course, I'm thankful she did not).
So, she signed up for a state-sponsored program that allowed us to pay very affordable premiums and still receive quality care. The program covered her prenatal stuff, delivery, and follow-ups for a few months. Our child was covered for the first year of her life and then we'd have the option to renew.
It's an awesome program and we never experienced any delays in getting care and the prescription plan operated like most others ($5-10 per). Then, after my business took off, even though we'd split up and could qualify for the program (mother is listed as primary custodian), I removed our daughter from the program. I buy a lot of items in California and also pay a very steep income tax, so I've more than paid back what we borrowed from the system.
I've very thankful that program was in place, but I'm even more thankful that I now have the ability to pay for my child's health coverage.
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No, AFDC was created back in the 30's.
Clinton's program was supposed to be different, but it's the same turd with a different bow on it.
And who passed that "turd". Thank you
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And who passed that "turd". Thank you
Oh, I won't deny that they're all in on it.
We need that program there, though, because it helps to perpertuate a permanent underclass.
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No, AFDC was created back in the 30's.
I spent a good part of the late 60s on it. Ah, childhood memories of surplus peanut butter and big cans of powdered eggs.
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I spent a good part of the late 60s on it. Ah, childhood memories of surplus peanut butter and big cans of powdered eggs.
damn dude how old are you? ???
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damn dude how old are you? ???
I will be 50 in a few months!
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I will be 50 in a few months!
i thought you were younger than that.
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i thought you were younger than that.
Did I say 50? I meant 40.
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obama is the messia of the world of tomorrow, when we will all be mixed to create a new super human race.
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I spent a good part of the late 60s on it. Ah, childhood memories of surplus peanut butter and big cans of powdered eggs.
It always blew my mind that there were people who felt they were too good for government cheese.
I can't remember whether there were deep discount sales or actual giveaways, but I know we managed to get a few blocks of it many years ago. And let me tell ya...that was good cheese!
I've also had the peanut butter before, too, and while it wasn't Peter Pan, it was certainly edible. I cannot recall ever having had the eggs or milk, though.
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I've also had the peanut butter before, too, and while it wasn't Peter Pan, it was certainly edible. I cannot recall ever having had the eggs or milk, though.
loved the powdered eggs...hated the powdered milk.
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Did I say 50? I meant 40.
LOL @ Tim!! ;D
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It didnt look that expensive after all ........
Btw I hope Ted Kennedy is ok .
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A mere pittance compared to the $7 trillion dollar spending plan this marxist has planned.
QFT
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Amen.
People, in the coming years, the amount of outrighT theft, constitutional violations, and other breaks in the law that this admin got away with...
Well, let's just say that Obama will have job security. Any time he needs to remind people of the alternative, he just has to allow another investigation into the last 8 years. Hell, the white hous is STILL fighting to have all those "emails we sent to each other right before 9-11" from being revealed. Turns out they were backed up after all. What in the world would they be hiding? ;)
F A I L
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
3 years later not a damn thing changed!
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A mere pittance compared to the $9 trillion dollar Bush spent to bailout his Saudi banking masters... or the $5 trillion Bush borrowed to help bankrupt America and rob everyone's 401k.
The Luke
FAIL
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I am. If you have a problem with that then its too bad. Its time for some real changes in this country and no more of that Bushshit that's been happenning for 8 years
You got played for a fool all along with the other 95% of blacks. Congrats jackass.
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I coudln't give a shit if obama was white, black, or purple.
Get someone in who will stop giving billions away to corporate interests.
Guess what everyone... sometimes you DO have to give $ to the poor folks, so they spend it, which stimulates the economy and makes your 401k worth more. The alternative is giving it to corporations and rich people. Rich people hoard it, and corps use it to open plants in china (which in turn leaves jobs from USA).
I'm as anti-handout as they come - but I do admit that sometimes, in the national economic cycle, you have to give some $ to the broke to stimulate spending so that the middle class' investments dont falter. Make sense?
FAIL YOU VOTED FOR THIS
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Nice to know that while the economy is shit, money will be spent in record numbers on the Inauguration. 3X more than any in history. What a crock of Shit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204
We saw the writing on the wall from Day 1. Not a damn thing changed.
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Obama Considers Allowing Corporate Cash for Inauguration
12:36 PM, NOV 23, 2012 • BY DANIEL HALPER Single PagePrintLarger TextSmaller TextAlerts
President Barack Obama is reportedly considering the use of the corporate cash to help pay for inauguration. The thinking is, after a long and very expensive presidential campaign, donors might be too spent to pick up the tab.
"President Barack Obama's fundraising advisers have urged the White House to accept corporate donations for his January 2013 inaugural celebration rather than rely exclusively on weary donors who underwrote his $1 billion re-election effort. People involved in his re-election campaign said White House staff and campaign advisers have been debating whether to accept corporate money to stage the events but haven't made a final decision," the Wall Street Journal reports.
The use of corporate cash would finalize Obama's shift away from his official 2008 position on corporations and political cash. "Four years ago Mr. Obama barred corporations from donating to his inauguration, a gesture meant to show that well-heeled interests wouldn't have undue influence in his administration," reports the Journal.
But with the conclusion of Obama's last political election ever, there is less reason than ever before for pretense. And that's proven by the fact that these discussions to allow coporate cash are even taking place by people close to Obama.
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wouldn't repubs support the use of $ from private industry? its okay to advertise mountain dew in elementary schools and letting joe sixpack manage his own retirement $ without a clue - but letting private firms pay for political events = bad?