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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on January 20, 2009, 04:14:46 AM
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I can honestly say my fascination for pro Bodybuilding is gone and has been replace by a deep rooted mistrust and absolute disgust.
I haven’t really wasted time to analyse why I feel this way but in the time I have been interested in pro Bodybuilding I have learned that…
A) You cannot get over a certain size without the help of drugs - thats a fact
B) All Bodybuilding Pro and Amateur take drugs (never mind how many times they tell you they don't)
C) All Bodybuilder Pro and Amateur lie about their drug usage (I have never heard any one of them say: No comment, instead they lie and say they are natural)
D) Most of the Pro bodybuilder are too chicken to hold a steady job and rely on semi prostitution G4p or call it whatever you want
E) Most Bodybuilders are not the smartest men or woman on this planet
F) Most bodybuilder lie about their income and or lifestyle
Will I ever stop lifting weights?
Probably not, but the times when I bought Flex or believe any of the bullshit the BB media wants you to believe including all the Supplement claims are well over.
Bodybuilding the way it was meant to be is fucking dead, and it’s back to basic for me.
No more Protein Powder or any other Supplement crap, no more split lifting or complicated food plans.
it’s a disgrace to see countless of healthy young individuals pump themselves full of the most insane drugs on this planet
In order to maybe MAYBE crack the top 100.
It’s also a disgrace to see official Bodybuilding magazines used to push the Steroid agenda.
Pro Bodybuilding is entirely based on lies and misinformation, I mean think about it the fact alone every single Top 10 Professional is actually taking performance enhancing illegal drugs and lies about the usage of them.
Only this fact alone makes this the most two faced profession and sport on the world.
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oh boo fuckin hoo, cry me a fuckin river..... ::)
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I can honestly say my fascination for pro Bodybuilding is gone and has been replace by a deep rooted mistrust and absolute disgust.
I haven’t really wasted time to analyse why I feel this way but in the time I have been interested in pro Bodybuilding I have learned that…
A) You cannot get over a certain size without the help of drugs - thats a fact
B) All Bodybuilding Pro and Amateur take drugs (never mind how many times they tell you they don't)
C) All Bodybuilder Pro and Amateur lie about their drug usage (I have never heard any one of them say: No comment, instead they lie and say they are natural)
D) Most of the Pro bodybuilder are too chicken to hold a steady job and rely on semi prostitution G4p or call it whatever you want
E) Most Bodybuilders are not the smartest men or woman on this planet
F) Most bodybuilder lie about their income and or lifestyle
Will I ever stop lifting weights?
Probably not, but the times when I bought Flex or believe any of the bullshit the BB media wants you to believe including all the Supplement claims are well over.
Bodybuilding the way it was meant to be is fucking dead, and it’s back to basic for me.
No more Protein Powder or any other Supplement crap, no more split lifting or complicated food plans.
it’s a disgrace to see countless of healthy young individuals pump themselves full of the most insane drugs on this planet
In order to maybe MAYBE crack the top 100.
It’s also a disgrace to see official Bodybuilding magazines used to push the Steroid agenda.
Pro Bodybuilding is entirely based on lies and misinformation, I mean think about it the fact alone every single Top 10 Professional is actually taking performance enhancing illegal drugs and lies about the usage of them.
Only this fact alone makes this the most two faced profession and sport on the world.
you must have been training naturaly for 10 years and you see no results ;D :P
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Calm down Gloria
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oh boo fuckin hoo, cry me a fuckin river..... ::)
so you think all is well? no change needed? no revolution required?
I'm not a big fan of the "wishing tomorrow would be today" but don't you wish we could change this sport to what it was?
be honest
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you must have been training naturaly for 10 years and you see no results ;D :P
course I see results, I'm 34 and never looked better all my life - feel stronger than ever - and i love lifting weights, but how can
we be so sheepish to say all is well?
look at these guys and girls that make up the majority of this sport, most of them are total social rejects, people that never make it
outside of this sport most of them have nothing to show for and have to rely on prostitution to get by.
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so you think all is well? no change needed? no revolution required?
I'm not a big fan of the "wishing tomorrow would be today" but don't you wish we could change this sport to what it was?
be honest
So at first you say you couldn't give two shits about bb'ing.....no you want to fix it?
But yes, i would like to see bb'ing changed.
Tell me though, what specifically would you like the ifbb to implement to clean up this sport...?
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Calm down Gloria
kiwiol, are you suggesting "Stark" is the kind of "guy" whose man left him for a gay4pay IFBB stud and now he cries on his pillow every night, wishing his boyfriend was back and he was biting it instead?
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So at first you say you couldn't give two shits about bb'ing.....no you want to fix it?
But yes, i would like to see bb'ing changed.
Tell me though, what specifically would you like the ifbb to implement to clean up this sport...?
I never said i don't want to fix it and I don't give a shit I love bb'ing that should be clear but I don't just pretend all is well.
I'm not that kind of a person I rather like to provocate than to just roll over.
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The thing that shows what a vile disgusting organisation the IFBB is, is the fact that they played loud gangsta rap music at the awards ceremony of their biggest event of the year.
So classy.
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;D
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;D
You have blue stars you should try to be more mature and give us your honest opinion, try acting your age for once in a while.
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kiwiol, are you suggesting "Stark" is the kind of "guy" whose man left him for a gay4pay IFBB stud and now he cries on his pillow every night, wishing his boyfriend was back and he was biting it instead?
LOL!
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Ok yes Stark. They're full of shit because they want your money. That describes 99% of the industries on the planet tho. Just don't let it take the wind out of your sails when it comes to training. You know that next year you want to be able to say, "I'm 35 and have never looked or felt better."
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You have blue stars you should try to be more mature and give us your honest opinion, try acting your age for once in a while.
Why do you give a shit..........train for your own satisfaction,you have nothing to do with pro bodybuilding anyway.
Besides,no one gives a shit how you feel about it.
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(http://www.phat7s.com/Stop%20Whining.jpeg) ;D
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Why do you give a shit..........train for your own satisfaction,you have nothing to do with pro bodybuilding anyway.
Besides,no one gives a shit how you feel about it.
Like I said, not the sharpest tool in the box ::)
I reckon you are the man who just rolls over and agrees with everything right? If not well you must know exactly how I feel, I think this
sport could be better, more respected and most important change.
Wouldn't you feel better if you were able to hold a steady job and not have to "pose" for middle aged bald pencil necks for half of the salary I make in a year?
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Like I said, not the sharpest tool in the box ::)
I reckon you are the man who just rolls over and agrees with everything right? If not well you must know exactly how I feel, I think this
sport could be better, more respected and most important change.
Wouldn't you feel better if you were able to hold a steady job and not have to "pose" for middle aged bald pencil necks for half of the salary I make in a year?
Dude, bodybuilding had it's heyday in the 90's. It did not catch on.
It will never be mainstream.
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Dude, bodybuilding had it's heyday in the 90's. It did not catch on.
It will never be mainstream.
Respected and mainstream are two different shoes... I don't want it to go mainstream i'm all for the underground sport.
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Respected and mainstream are two different shoes... I don't want it to go mainstream i'm all for the underground sport.
Then you would have to eliminate all steroids and change peoples perception of grown men flexing muscles while soaked in pro tan and oil in front cheering queers. Never gonna happen.
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Like I said, not the sharpest tool in the box ::)
I reckon you are the man who just rolls over and agrees with everything right? If not well you must know exactly how I feel, I think this
sport could be better, more respected and most important change.
Wouldn't you feel better if you were able to hold a steady job and not have to "pose" for middle aged bald pencil necks for half of the salary I make in a year?
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Then you would have to eliminate all steroids and change peoples perception of grown men flexing muscles while soaked in pro tan and oil in front cheering queers. Never gonna happen.
Anything is possible it just requires people like me to kick start it
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Anything is possible it takes people like me to kick start it
Haha you're a fuckin hippie.
(http://ammaryasir.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/haight-hippie.jpg)
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wonderfull responds :) running out of real arguments, must post childish internet-forum-pixs... love it :D
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Haha you're a fuckin hippie.
(http://ammaryasir.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/haight-hippie.jpg)
I have a no1 haircut -and I'm an ex Skinhead so no ;D
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hahaha its not a 'sport' to begin with
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wonderfull responds :) running out of real arguments, must post childish internet-forum-pixs... love it :D
;D
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When one gets involved in BB the first thing one needs to understand is the world of BB is a fucked up beast.
Learn, accept or fuck off and do something else
Simple as
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oh, and while we are on the subject, 99% of BB issues can be summed up in about 4 mins
Enjoy :D
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pardon me, is this the meltdown thread???
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I can honestly say my fascination for pro Bodybuilding is gone and has been replace by a deep rooted mistrust and absolute disgust.
I haven’t really wasted time to analyse why I feel this way but in the time I have been interested in pro Bodybuilding I have learned that…
A) You cannot get over a certain size without the help of drugs - thats a fact
B) All Bodybuilding Pro and Amateur take drugs (never mind how many times they tell you they don't)
C) All Bodybuilder Pro and Amateur lie about their drug usage (I have never heard any one of them say: No comment, instead they lie and say they are natural)
D) Most of the Pro bodybuilder are too chicken to hold a steady job and rely on semi prostitution G4p or call it whatever you want
E) Most Bodybuilders are not the smartest men or woman on this planet
F) Most bodybuilder lie about their income and or lifestyle
Will I ever stop lifting weights?
Probably not, but the times when I bought Flex or believe any of the bullshit the BB media wants you to believe including all the Supplement claims are well over.
Bodybuilding the way it was meant to be is fucking dead, and it’s back to basic for me.
No more Protein Powder or any other Supplement crap, no more split lifting or complicated food plans.
it’s a disgrace to see countless of healthy young individuals pump themselves full of the most insane drugs on this planet
In order to maybe MAYBE crack the top 100.
It’s also a disgrace to see official Bodybuilding magazines used to push the Steroid agenda.
Pro Bodybuilding is entirely based on lies and misinformation, I mean think about it the fact alone every single Top 10 Professional is actually taking performance enhancing illegal drugs and lies about the usage of them.
Only this fact alone makes this the most two faced profession and sport on the world.
I heard Victor in an interview discuss steroids. Lol but ya most other pros lie. Whatever if your dumb enough to believe it and get upset its your own problem.
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I can honestly say my fascination for pro Bodybuilding is gone and has been replace by a deep rooted mistrust and absolute disgust.
I haven’t really wasted time to analyse why I feel this way but in the time I have been interested in pro Bodybuilding I have learned that…
A) You cannot get over a certain size without the help of drugs - thats a fact
B) All Bodybuilding Pro and Amateur take drugs (never mind how many times they tell you they don't)
C) All Bodybuilder Pro and Amateur lie about their drug usage (I have never heard any one of them say: No comment, instead they lie and say they are natural)
D) Most of the Pro bodybuilder are too chicken to hold a steady job and rely on semi prostitution G4p or call it whatever you want
E) Most Bodybuilders are not the smartest men or woman on this planet
F) Most bodybuilder lie about their income and or lifestyle
Will I ever stop lifting weights?
Probably not, but the times when I bought Flex or believe any of the bullshit the BB media wants you to believe including all the Supplement claims are well over.
Bodybuilding the way it was meant to be is fucking dead, and it’s back to basic for me.
No more Protein Powder or any other Supplement crap, no more split lifting or complicated food plans.
it’s a disgrace to see countless of healthy young individuals pump themselves full of the most insane drugs on this planet
In order to maybe MAYBE crack the top 100.
It’s also a disgrace to see official Bodybuilding magazines used to push the Steroid agenda.
Pro Bodybuilding is entirely based on lies and misinformation, I mean think about it the fact alone every single Top 10 Professional is actually taking performance enhancing illegal drugs and lies about the usage of them.
Only this fact alone makes this the most two faced profession and sport on the world.
Welcome to reality, buddy. BTW, you're 100% right. And you didn't even touch on all the shadiness of it. :-\ The whole industry is shit.
EDIT: BTW, not a sport. It's a male body pageant.
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Damn, Wes owned that shit out of that Panzi Stark.. 8)
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Welcome to reality, buddy. BTW, you're 100% right. And you didn't even touch on all the shadiness of it. :-\ The whole industry is shit.
EDIT: BTW, not a sport. It's a male body pageant.
Other idiot...so funny 8)
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Welcome to reality, buddy. BTW, you're 100% right. And you didn't even touch on all the shadiness of it. :-\ The whole industry is shit.
EDIT: BTW, not a sport. It's a male body pageant.
I agree that choosing BB as a career is not a wise move for most people, but come on.
No one is forcing anyone to do it. It's up to themselves to inject the drugs and do what it takes to aim for success. It will always be a shady industry.
Just accept it and move on. I don't know what's more pathetic: a bodybuilder involved in shady business, or a "gordiano" being obsessed about it. Same goes for Stark.
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You are free to not like Bodybuilding, but it got to be one of the most pathetic existences to spend your time in a bodybuilding board just being obsessively negative. What a way to be a complete loser...thousands of hours and posts :-*
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I agree that choosing BB as a career is not a wise move for most people, but come on.
No one is forcing anyone to do it. It's up to themselves to inject the drugs and do what it takes to aim for success. It will always be a shady industry.
Just accept it and move on. I don't know what's more pathetic: a bodybuilder involved in shady business, or a "gordiano" being obsessed about it. Same goes for Stark.
Exactly. Stark posts interesting stuff a lot of times, but sometimes he goes into this funky 'Howie' mode where he suddenly starts preaching about the evils of pro bodybuilding. If someone is so concerned about the health and dignity of the participants, they should start their own federation and award all these guys the kind of money that will let them bodybuild with integrity, rather than have them resort to things like G4P.
Stark, bodybuilders who do G4P and other sordid stuff aren't all there is to bodybuilding. There are guys like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates who have never done things like G4P. You always seem to focus on the fact that the glass is half empty. These individuals are grown ups who are consciously making the choice of taking what they have to take to be competitive at the pro level. They know way more than you do about the harmful effects of taking them as well as the stance the law takes towards the usage of anabolics.
The question as to whether the government even has any right to ban steroids or be in a position to dictate what a person can or cannot take is a whole different topic altogether. Ignoring that for a second, just know that if someone like you starts a federation where only natural bodybuilders can compete and even then, only if they don't resort to things like G4P and what not, it will be even less successful (way less successful, in fact) than pro bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is a sub cult and will always be so - it will never go mainstream because of it's nature.
As to your original post, get real - the mags NEVER say that the average gym rat or a beginner can one day achieve the level of physiques of pros naturally. The different mags cater to different markets. For example, FLEX is a hardcore bodybuilding mag and it features pros while Men's fitness is aimed more towards the mainstream market, which is why they feature models who are cut up but hardly as big as pros. And how can FLEX or any other mag advice it's readers to juice or say what the pros they feature are taking? That would be like an open confession and call for attention for the law to step in.
There are plenty of articles in FLEX that tell you about steroids. As to some of the pros doing G4P - it's their choice and no different than chicks resorting to stripping or prostitution to pay their way through college or to foot a bill or make a living or whatever. Sure it's a shame that some of the pros have to do stuff like that to make ends meets, pardon the pun, but like it has been pointed out, they do it out of their own volition. Maybe in an ideal world pro bodybuilders can make enough from their sponsorships and contest winnings to not have to resort to those things, but it's far from an ideal world.
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Exactly. Stark posts interesting stuff a lot of times, but sometimes he goes into this funky 'Howie' mode where he suddenly starts preaching about the evils of pro bodybuilding. If someone is so concerned about the health and dignity of the participants, they should start their own federation and award all these guys the kind of money that will let them bodybuild with integrity, rather than have to resort to things like G4P.
Stark, bodybuilders who do G4P and other sordid stuff aren't all there is to bodybuilding. There are guys like Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates who have never done things like G4P. You always seem to focus on the fact that the glass is half empty. These individuals are grown ups who are consciously making the choice of taking what they have to take to be competitive at the pro level. They know way more than you do about the harmful effects of taking them as well as the stance the law takes towards the usage of anabolics.
The question as to whether the government even has any right to ban steroids or be in a position to dictate what a person can or cannot take is a whole different topic altogether. Ignoring that for a second, just know that if someone like you starts a federation where only natural bodybuilders can compete and even then, only if they don't resort to things like G4P and what not, it will be even less successful (way less successful, in fact) than pro bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is a sub cult and will always be so - it will never go mainstream because of it's nature.
As to your original post, get real - the mags NEVER say that the average gym rat or a beginner can one day achieve the level of physiques of pros naturally. The different mags cater to different markets. FLEX is a hardcore bodybuilding mag and it features pros while Men's fitness is aimed more towards the mainstream market, which is why they feature models who are cut up but hardly as big as pros. And how can FLEX or any other mag advice it's readers to juice or say what the pros they feature are taking? That would be like an open confession and call for attention for the law to step in.
There are plenty of articles in FLEX that tell you about steroids. As to some of the pros doing G4P - it's their choice and no different than chicks resorting to stripping or prostitution to pay their way through college or to foot a bill or make a living or whatever. Sure it's a shame that some of the pros have to do stuff like that to make ends meets, pardon the pun, but like it has been pointed out, they do it out of their own volition. Maybe in an ideal world pro bodybuilders can make enough from their sponsorships and contest winnings to not have to resort to those things, but it's far from an ideal world.
Kiwiol this is a great post...However, could you provide cliff notes..
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Why do you give a shit..........train for your own satisfaction,you have nothing to do with pro bodybuilding anyway.
Besides,no one gives a shit how you feel about it.
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stark why would you let the f ag pros dictate how you train or eat ??? Split train and eat clean if you want to cut up and look good for bitches or just cause you want to, dont tell me you did those things before in hopes of being a pro :-\??
Ill never ever compete but I do enjoy training and eating clean and seeing my body get ripped.
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Kiwiol this is a great post...However, could you provide cliff notes..
Sure, I'll get Jordain to PM you a bit later - she is doing some Meth at the moment ;D