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Anyone here about this bill HB 191 that just passed in Montana supposedly. They will outlaw all pitbulls, round up the ones existing and euthanize them. .......WTF? I think it's a dangerous breed in the hands of irresponsible owners but they shouldn't be outlawed and least of all fucking rounded up and killed. WTF is wrong with this country?
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Anyone here about this bill HB 191 that just passed in Montana supposedly. They will outlaw all pitbulls, round up the ones existing and euthanize them. .......WTF? I think it's a dangerous breed in the hands of irresponsible owners but they shouldn't be outlawed and least of all fucking rounded up and killed. WTF is wrong with this country?
These tough guy wannabe dog owners had it coming.
Give them neutered Golden Retrievers instead.
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These tough guy wannabe dog owners had it coming.
Give them neutered Golden Retrievers instead.
So you think everyone that owns a pitbull is a tough guy wannabe dog owner? Come on bro. Don't be so fucking dumb. That's like saying because there are dumbass gun owners we should get rid of the 2nd amendment?
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So you think everyone that owns a pitbull is a tough guy wannabe dog owner? Come on bro. Don't be so fucking dumb. That's like saying because there are dumbass gun owners we should get rid of the 2nd amendment?
Do we need pitbulls?
No.
Are there other, more stable breeds?
Yes.
BTW, I'm no big fan of pets in general. 8)
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Do we need pitbulls?
No.
Are there other, more stable breeds?
Yes.
BTW, I'm no big fan of pets in general. 8)
Come on dude. Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican. Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs.
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Come on dude. Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican. Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs.
Ok.
I'm gonna try the Obama-way on this one.
Change. 8)
Let's give the pitbulls a chance.
Better? ;D
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Come on dude. Your logic is completely flawed and unAmerican. Pitbulls are a very amazing breed and in the right hands are great dogs.
Nobody needs a fuucking pitbull.
I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.
Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.
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Nobody needs a fuucking pitbull.
I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.
Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.
So we should outlaw them for the other 5% of the population? That makes absolutely zero sense. Many people have no business owning guns. Guns kill a helluva lot more people than Pitbulls including kids. But I don't hear you banning guns. Hypocrites.
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Why is this even a sticky?
Sticky about dogs?
Cry me a fcuking river.
It's not like there aren't more important things to worry about. ::)
Like world economy and middle eastern crisis, eg.
People spend waaaay too much attention and money on some fcuking animals.
How about all pet owners euthanize their pets and send their "pet money" to fcuking Africa instead.
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Why is this even a sticky?
Sticky about dogs?
Cry me a fcuking river.
It's not like there aren't more important things to worry about. ::)
Like world economy and middle eastern crisis, eg.
People spend waaaay too much attention and money on some fcuking animals.
How about all pet owners euthanize their pets and send their "pet money" to fcuking Africa instead.
lmao ;D
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lmao ;D
I'm serious.
If all pet owners would "put away" their "darlings" and instead spend that money and time on more important things like... other humans, the world economy would be saved in an instant.
I'm sure the environment would be better off as well from the reduction in pet food production.
Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving? 8)
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I'm serious.
If all pet owners would "put away" their "darlings" and instead spend that money and time on more important things like... other humans, the world economy would be saved in an instant.
I'm sure the environment would be better off as well from the reduction in pet food production.
Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving? 8)
Some people (like certain x-board denizens) prefer animals to people. Not naming any names, but you know.
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I don't think I'd ban the dogs. I'd maybe increase and enforce penalties for people who turn them into killing machines.
That said, hard to ignore the danger these breeds pose to the public.
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its a problem like a lot of others that is sensationalized by the media and spurs ppl who dont know the details into action. I dont believe in dog bans however i do believe in strict penalties for ppl who are irresponsible and whos irresponsibilities lend themselves to bad situations. If you ban pits, they will go get rotties or mastiffs and sooner or later ppl will be clamoring for bans on those breeds as well. Its not necissarily the dog although certain breeds can be more aggressive then others its the ppl that let the off their lead or dont understand that breeds like that need to be trained and socialized that are the main problem.
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I own an American Staff. The best dog I ever owned. I take all the precautions that anyone owning a medium/large dog breed of that nature should. Never leave it unattended in public. Don't let kids near it and don't let unknown dogs near him.
Funny enough, it's the other douchbags that walk around with their "safe" dogs unleashed that give me the most trouble. "My dog is friendly, he just wants to play.", while it's snarling and dry humping my dogs face . That's fine, just put him back on the leash like the law states and keep him the fuck away from my dog. Thanks.
By the way, what is the ratio of Pitbulls population to Pitbull attacks in America anyway. 1,000,000 to 1. Huge threat. ::)
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I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.
Wrong.
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Honestly, how can a pet owner justify feeding an animal when there are humans starving? 8)
oh boy. This coming from a guy who visits a bodybuilding board, where the main goal of most men and woman is to fill themselves up with unnatural amounts of food just to get bigger than everyone else and dance around in their underware on a stage. Go start a getbig protest to stop promoting this gluttonous behavior Mother Theresa. ::)
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This is crazy... Anyone know if it's true? ???
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It's not the breed its the owner. We're looking like Europe more and more every day.
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This is crazy... Anyone know if it's true? ???
I haven't looked up if the bill passed but look up HB 191.
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Some people (like certain x-board denizens) prefer animals to people. Not naming any names, but you know.
LOL.
Imagine what they'd do if they would see these posts of mine.
I'd be kibble before you knew it.
Or maybe raw meat. ;D
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When they banned them here in Ontario, they had all owners register and neuter/spay their pets. Those who did were allowed to keep them, but there was a ban on further importation of the animals into the province. When they announced it, a whole whack of people turned their animals over to the Humane Society, and there was a mad rush to adopt them out because after a certain date they were all going to be euthanized.
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So we should outlaw them for the other 5% of the population? That makes absolutely zero sense. Many people have no business owning guns. Guns kill a helluva lot more people than Pitbulls including kids. But I don't hear you banning guns. Hypocrites.
Gee Whiz I dunno. They banned assault rifles because 5% (probably less) used them in a bad way.
A lot of those people did not have any business owning guns, you're right. However in this country these days, nobody will do anything to regualte people, the government instead regulates things.
Pitbulls are animals that were developed and bred to be killers. Neither you, nor anyone else needs one.
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Gee Whiz I dunno. They banned assault rifles because 5% (probably less) used them in a bad way.
A lot of those people did not have any business owning guns, you're right. However in this country these days, nobody will do anything to regualte people, the government instead regulates things.
Pitbulls are animals that were developed and bred to be killers. Neither you, nor anyone else needs one.
::) You know nothing about the breed. Would I own a pitbull? No of course not. I don't have the time, discipline, dedication, etc. to give it what it needs in order to be a well adjusted, obedient dog. That's the problem. It's the owners not the breed.
The American Temperament Testing Society shows a pass percentage of 84.3% for American Pit Bull Terrier.[5] Still, a firm, even hand and early obedience training are best. They generally have a lot of energy and high prey drive; they need exercise and stimulation in order to channel their energy properly and not become frustrated, bored, and destructive. Additionally, APBTs can often display dog aggression - especially towards unfamiliar dogs of the same sex or level of assertiveness - so early socialization and good training are needed.Being intelligent, athletic dogs[7], American Pit Bull Terriers excel in many dog sports, including weight pulling, dog agility, flyball, lure coursing and advanced obedience competition. Some pit bulls have been known to do well in schutzhund as well. Out of the 25 dogs who have earned UKC "superdog" status (by gaining championship titles in conformation, obedience, agility, and weightpull), fourteen have been pit bulls.
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a working dog and is suitable for a wide range of working disciplines due to their intelligence, high energy and endurance. In the United States they have been used as search and rescue dogs that save lives,[8] police dogs performing narcotics and explosives detection,[9][10] Border Patrol dogs, hearing dogs to provide services to the deaf, as well as general service dogs.
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::) You know nothing about the breed and have no clue what you are talking about. Some issues you make some good points. But this is one where you are obviously talking out of your ass. Would I own a pitbull? No of course not. I don't have the time, discipline, dedication, etc. to give it what it needs in order to be a well adjusted, obedient dog. That's the problem. It's the owners not the breed.
The American Temperament Testing Society shows a pass percentage of 84.3% for American Pit Bull Terrier.[5] Still, a firm, even hand and early obedience training are best. They generally have a lot of energy and high prey drive; they need exercise and stimulation in order to channel their energy properly and not become frustrated, bored, and destructive. Additionally, APBTs can often display dog aggression - especially towards unfamiliar dogs of the same sex or level of assertiveness - so early socialization and good training are needed.Being intelligent, athletic dogs[7], American Pit Bull Terriers excel in many dog sports, including weight pulling, dog agility, flyball, lure coursing and advanced obedience competition. Some pit bulls have been known to do well in schutzhund as well. Out of the 25 dogs who have earned UKC "superdog" status (by gaining championship titles in conformation, obedience, agility, and weightpull), fourteen have been pit bulls.
The American Pit Bull Terrier is a working dog and is suitable for a wide range of working disciplines due to their intelligence, high energy and endurance. In the United States they have been used as search and rescue dogs that save lives,[8] police dogs performing narcotics and explosives detection,[9][10] Border Patrol dogs, hearing dogs to provide services to the deaf, as well as general service dogs.
You took the words outta my mouth.
Blame the dog for mans fvck ups.
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Yet for all you liberals, it works for everything else eh?
It's never otherwise the persons fault, it's always the gun, the drugs, the alcohol, society, racism, whatever...
A comprehensive study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded that the pit bull breeds are the breed most often involved in fatal dog attacks in the U.S. Out of 238 dog bite deaths, 66 were caused by pit bull attacks (over 20%), more than any other breed
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Yet for all you liberals
::)
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A comprehensive study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded that the pit bull breeds are the breed most often involved in fatal dog attacks in the U.S. Out of 238 dog bite deaths, 66 were caused by pit bull attacks (over 20%), more than any other breed
Is that 66 deaths per year ? How many Pitbulls in America?
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How about this:
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) published a study concerning deaths from canine attacks in 2000.[34] According to the study, between 1979 and 1998, one-third of all fatal dog attacks were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67.[35]
How many hunderds of dog breeds are there, and ONE-THIRD of all fatal attacks are from this one breed?
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how much $ will they give us per paw? Can we hunt them from helicopters?
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How about this:
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) published a study concerning deaths from canine attacks in 2000.[34] According to the study, between 1979 and 1998, one-third of all fatal dog attacks were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67.[35]
How many hunderds of dog breeds are there, and ONE-THIRD of all fatal attacks are from this one breed?
That's 118 deaths due to Pitbull attack in 19 years, (6 deaths a year). The other study said 66 deaths but didn't specify a time frame. Am I missing something?
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Gee Whiz I dunno. They banned assault rifles because 5% (probably less) used them in a bad way.
A lot of those people did not have any business owning guns, you're right. However in this country these days, nobody will do anything to regualte people, the government instead regulates things.
Pitbulls are animals that were developed and bred to be killers. Neither you, nor anyone else needs one.
actually they never banned assault rifles they techincally banned the most ignorant shit about assault rifle that never really made a difference, bayonet lugs, flash hiders (used to reduce recoil), pistol grips for assault rifles, etc...nothing really of consequence.
on the other stuff why dont we outlaw every other breed except pomeranians? LOL this is america
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They don't need to outlaw pitbulls, they just need to punish the owners severely as much as much as 2nd degree murder in some cases if their dog harms someone not in self defense.
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fuck a pitbull
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They don't need to outlaw pitbulls, they just need to punish the owners severely as much as much as 2nd degree murder in some cases if their dog harms someone not in self defense.
Yes, but thats the problem. The powers that be refuse to regulate PEOPLE these days for fear of civil rights lawsuits, ACLU bullshit, etc... So they go after THINGS instead.
Ghetto gang-bang Tapout tough guy douchebags typically have pitbulls. Ban the dogs because nobody is ever going to do anything about the people.
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fuck a pitbull
I bet you do, without lube either.
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This is silly. Don't hate the dog, hate the owner!
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Yes, but thats the problem. The powers that be refuse to regulate PEOPLE these days for fear of civil rights lawsuits, ACLU bullshit, etc... So they go after THINGS instead.
Ghetto gang-bang Tapout tough guy douchebags typically have pitbulls. Ban the dogs because nobody is ever going to do anything about the people.
Good point, it makes absolutely no sense >:(
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What about it makes no sense to you?
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What about it makes no sense to you?
What you pointed out. In other words, I agree with you.
To me it's not about "regulating" people, it's about enforcing more sever consequences for breaking the law.
for example 3 strike, I love that one.
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I misunderstood. Apologies.
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They don't need to outlaw pitbulls, they just need to punish the owners severely as much as much as 2nd degree murder in some cases if their dog harms someone not in self defense.
Correct. If your dog kills or maims someone, you get 15 years in prison, mandatory sentencing. I'm guessing a lot more pits end up in cages, or not purchased at all. leashes suddenly matter.
"ACLU bullshit" - I disagree with that. Lawmakers need to make the penalties harsher. The ACLU is nothing but a lobbying body - they have ZERo legal power. Lawmakers do. And they're not using it.
I don't get it when ppl blame the ACLU for everything. The people making the laws have all the power - they just don't want to piss off dog-owning voters.
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Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.
Bullshit.
Let's liken it to humans and get rid of blacks.......they're statistically more likely to commit crimes.
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Bullshit.
Let's liken it to humans and get rid of blacks.......they're statistically more likely to commit crimes.
hahahah sorry that made me LOL
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hahahah sorry that made me LOL
I'm serious. If we're going to "ban" a breed of dog for it's reputation, let's start doing the same with humans. Starting with race, then sexual orientation.
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I'm serious. If we're going to "ban" a breed of dog for it's reputation, let's start doing the same with humans. Starting with race, then sexual orientation.
That's how crazy this issue is.
Some people even start to compare animals to humans. ::)
That's really fcuked up.
A lot of people need to stop being obsessed about their pets and start caring about their fellow man instead.
It's pretty disgusting in some cases to be honest.
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I'm serious. If we're going to "ban" a breed of dog for it's reputation, let's start doing the same with humans. Starting with race, then sexual orientation.
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That's how crazy this issue is.
Some people even start to compare animals to humans. ::)
That's really fcuked up.
A lot of people need to stop being obsessed about their pets and start caring about their fellow man instead.
It's pretty disgusting in some cases to be honest.
Animals are more loyal than any human. Fuck my "fellow man", what good have they ever done?
You sound like the kind of guy that finds a litter of kittens and instead of taking them to a shelter you put them in a burlap sack and throw them in a river.
People like you make me want to puke.
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Animals are more loyal than any human. Fuck my "fellow man", what good have they ever done?
You seem to be one of all those complete tools who thinks animals have human qualities, like "loyalty".
Or that a dog can be "sad".
"He's got those sad eyes"
Hahahaha.
I bet you talk to your pet too?
"Hey Bud, you want to go out for a walk?" ::)
Oh brother.
You sound like the kind of guy that finds a litter of kittens and instead of taking them to a shelter you put them in a burlap sack and throw them in a river.
People like you make me want to puke.
I tell you what - at least I have the decency and common sense that I know that any human life is worth more than those kittens lives.
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I tell you what - at least I have the decency and common sense that I know that any human life is worth more than those kittens lives.
I'd toss someone like you off the bridge before I tossed the kittens. :)
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I'd toss someone like you off the bridge before I tossed the kittens. :)
I definitely would throw the kittens off the bridge before even consider doing the same to a human being, regardless of who it was.
You seem to have a much closer relation to animals than I do.
BTW, what's your take on intimate relations between man and animal?
Is it always wrong?
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You seem to be one of all those complete tools who thinks animals have human qualities, like "loyalty".
Or that a dog can be "sad".
"He's got those sad eyes"
Hahahaha.
I bet you talk to your pet too?
"Hey Bud, you want to go out for a walk?" ::)
ROFLMAO. ;D
I love dogs this was funny!
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Goddamn Bullshit to kill dogs just because other dogs of their breed can be violent. It would be like killing everyone in a specific race because that race has higher rates of crime or violence. It doesn't make sense. Not all pit bulls are violent, many have great temperaments.
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Jacques Chirac was recently mauled by his poodle (which Chirac claimed was clinically depressed ::))
I know it's not funny but .... I still thinks it's a little bit funny
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You seem to be one of all those complete tools who thinks animals have human qualities, like "loyalty".
Or that a dog can be "sad".
"He's got those sad eyes"
Hahahaha.
I bet you talk to your pet too?
"Hey Bud, you want to go out for a walk?" ::)
Oh brother.
I tell you what - at least I have the decency and common sense that I know that any human life is worth more than those kittens lives.
You think a dog doesn't feel happiness or sadness, fear or anger/frustration? haha alright buddy, you are truly blind.
I can think of plenty of people whose lives are worth less than that of a lizard, you can't?
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Jacques Chirac was recently mauled by his poodle (which Chirac claimed was clinically depressed ::))
I know it's not funny but .... I still thinks it's a little bit funny
haha, that was funny :D
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You think a dog doesn't feel happiness or sadness, fear or anger/frustration? haha alright buddy, you are truly blind.
I can think of plenty of people whose lives are worth less than that of a lizard, you can't?
No.
I am a Humanist.
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Why is this a sticky?
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Wasn't me.
In any event, they're trying to ban them here too.
Bill would ban owning pit bulls in Hawaii — but its chances are slim
Measure's prospects doubtful, but it angers dog owners, advocates
By Curtis Lum
Advertiser Staff Writer
The recent attack on a police officer by a mixed-breed pit bull terrier has renewed debate on whether these dogs, which have gained the reputation of being vicious and uncontrollable, have a place in society.
Several Mainland municipalities such as Denver and Maryland's Prince George's County have banned the ownership of pit bulls, following deadly attacks. San Francisco last year passed "breed-specific legislation" that mandates pit bull sterilization.
In Hawai'i, a measure has been introduced at the Legislature that would prohibit the ownership of a pit bull. If approved, it would be a misdemeanor to own, possess or sell these dogs.
But whether this bill ever gets a hearing is doubtful, according to Senate President Colleen Hanabusa, who introduced the measure. Hanabusa said SB 79 was drafted "by request," meaning a constituent asked her to do so.
With the focus of lawmakers this session on the slumping economy, Hanabusa said, the bill isn't likely to get very far.
"I do not believe that this is a bill that has a high priority, but it's going to be up to the Judiciary Committee chair," she said. "I have not heard of anyone asking or pushing the measure."
Pit bull attacks in Hawai'i are infrequent, but they have led to serious injuries and deaths. The last two high-profile attacks involved mixed-breed pit bulls.
Last October, a pit bull mix attacked and killed a baby girl as she slept in her Wai'anae home. That dog was euthanized.
On Jan. 14, a man allegedly unleashed his 70-pound pit bull mix on a police detective during a confrontation at the Kapahulu Safeway. The officer, who was bitten in the stomach, shot the dog, which later died.
Hanabusa said the request to introduce the bill followed pit bull attacks on other dogs. If anything, she added, the Legislature this year may look at tougher leash laws, rather than a ban on a specific breed.
Although the measure isn't expected to pass, it has raised the ire of pit bull owners and other animal rights organizations, who believe these animals are being unfairly targeted.
a bad reputation
Joe Borges, who raises pit bulls at his Kahalu'u home, said pit bulls are one of the most obedient and loyal dogs around. Unfortunately, he said, pit bulls, as well as other dogs such as Rottweilers and Dobermans, have been involved in highly publicized incidents that have led to a bad reputation.
"It's a smart dog and you can teach it to do a lot of things, which includes, unfortunately, people who have used them to fight and people who have used them to attack people," Borges said. "But they're also used with elderly people as a companion dog and that kind of thing. So you can do whatever you want to do. It's like a match. You can burn down a house or you can light a fire to cook dinner. It's your choice."
Borges, 50, works in construction and supplements his income by raising and selling pit bull puppies. Depending on its pedigree, a puppy can sell for $500 to $2,000, he said.
Borges and other owners and breeders are beginning to organize to fight the pit bull ban. He said he understands why Hanabusa introduced the measure and that it may not get very far, but he said he doesn't want to take any chances.
"You don't have to be a pit bull owner to organize with us. You don't actually have to be a dog owner — you can be a dog lover. Other states have gone after the pit bull and then they've gone after the Doberman, the Rottweiler and the Chow. They've even gone after the fox terrier. It's just ridiculous."
Kawehi Yim, spokeswoman for the Hawaiian Humane Society, said the organization is opposed to any proposal that would ban specific breeds.
"They're expensive to enforce and they just don't work," Yim said. "Our belief is it's the owner that makes the dog and not the dog. It goes back to just being a responsible pet owner."
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090127/NEWS01/901270351
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No.
I am a Humanist.
Humanism doesn't mean that you can't believe that non-human animals have rights and feelings and thoughts.
If given a choice between shooting my dog or Osama Bin Laden. I'd shoot Osama.
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Banning them would only mean that they go UNDERGROUND.
Banning them would mean that they DON'T GET TREATED FOR CONTAGIOUS DISEASES.
Banning them would mean that TONS OF INNOCENT DOGS GET PUNISHED.
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I'm amazed that a lot of Micheal Vicks dogs seem to have been placed with people and are doing OK.
I would have thought most of those dogs would have been permantly f'd in the head
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I'm amazed that a lot of Micheal Vicks dogs seem to have been placed with people and are doing OK.
I would have thought most of those dogs would have been permantly f'd in the head
Well, if you were going to take in a pitbull, even if it was a total shit, would you say anything other than it was a great dog? No owners are going to say their dogs are a problem.
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Well, if you were going to take in a pitbull, even if it was a total shit, would you say anything other than it was a great dog? No owners are going to say their dogs are a problem.
Do you have any first hand experience with pitbulls?
For that matter who here has any first hand experience with pits or actually owned one for 10+ years?
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Do you have any first hand experience with pitbulls?
For that matter who here has any first hand experience with pits or actually owned one for 10+ years?
I was attacked by one when I was nine.other than that I had a neighbor a few years back that kept letting his run the neighborhood.And I told him if the dog walked in my yard it would not walk out.
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I was attacked by one when I was nine.
So what happened?
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I was attacked by one when I was nine.other than that I had a neighbor a few years back that kept letting his run the neighborhood. And I told him if the dog walked in my yard it would not walk out.
Its a dog eat bigLdawg world man.
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So what happened?
Its a dog eat bigLdawg world man.
ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.
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ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.
Must have been the owners. The dog would never do anything like that unless the owners made it... ::)
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ha ha yea.I went to my aunt's house(her dog) with my grandmother and when we walked in the living room the dog ran and leaped for my throat.I threw my arm up and he latched on my arm his claws dug into my chest.my aunt got him off me.and that was that.the dog had no prior incidents and there was no warning signs in the 8 years that she owned him.
As someone that has owned pits and been around many of them for over 15 years, I find this hard to believe.
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What about dalmatians? How many people are killed by those darn dalmatians every year? :)
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As someone that has owned pits and been around many of them for over 15 years, I find this hard to believe.
well sorry to here that.I am a pet owner as well.I have two dogs three cats two very large fish tanks and my kids have a couple lizards,I love animals.but for a person to think that an Animal can not snap and go sideways is kind of ignorant.
Another story Id like to share My dads best friend had a American bulldog for 6 years.Well him and his wife had just got done having sex and in strolls the dog and hopes on the bed and starts sniffin around.He said the dog was acting very strange and went to take the dog outside.he walked down the steps but the dog didn't follow.So he goes to walk back up the steps and the dog runs down and meets him halfway and begins to growl in a way he said he never heard before.At that moment he said he knew It was either him or the dog<He yelled for his wife to shut and lock the bedroom door and at that moment the dog attacked.the Animal did a number on him .punctured a main artery to were ever time his heart beat a pin stream of blood would squirt out.he got out of the house.the neighbors called the cops and they put the dog down.They had this dog since it was 8 weeks old.took it to obedience school,it was well socialized.never a sign of any trouble what so ever.the dog just snapped.maybe it thought he was hurting his wife when they were having sex but who know.bottom line an animal is an animal.and they can snap and attack.And if you chose to own one that can do serious damage like a pit bull you better carry good insurance and a good lawyer.
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A lot of people will cross breed pitbulls with American bulldogs and claim them to be ABs. Lots do it to get around homeowner associations and local bans.
Some home loans will require pitbull owners to have extra insurance, so the people just lie about the breed to get around their assumed responsibilities.
American Bulldogs are NOT Pitbulls. There is no similarity besides size. I have an AB.
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What about dalmatians? How many people are killed by those darn dalmatians every year? :)
lol. Chihuahuas either. :)
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In today's Advertiser. :-\
Pit bull attacks hospitalize 2 women
By Will Hoover
Advertiser Staff Writer
Two O'ahu men face dangerous-dog charges after their pit bulls attacked two women in separate incidents Tuesday, Honolulu police said yesterday.
Bryan Cheplic, spokesman for the city's Emergency Medical Services, said both women were hospitalized in serious condition as a result of dog bites.
The attacks came on the same day a measure was introduced in the state Legislature to prohibit ownership of pit bulls in Hawai'i.
The first dog attack happened around 11:45 a.m. near Kapolei High School. But police said the incident began earlier when two 3-year-old blue nose pit bulls tried to attack security guards at the school.
The dogs had been running loose in the area and suddenly rushed the guards, who managed to positioned a golf cart between themselves and the dogs, police said. The guards chased the dogs away.
The pit bulls then attacked a 59-year-old woman in her driveway on Kama'aha Avenue. The woman suffered lacerations to her right leg and left hand. Police said she fought the dogs off by punching them.
The woman was taken to Hawaii Medical Center West in serious condition. The case was turned over to HPD's criminal investigation division, police said.
Kawehi Yim, spokeswoman for the Hawaiian Humane Society, said the owner of the dogs voluntarily turned the pair over to the facility, where they were still being held yesterday.
Later Tuesday, at around 4:15 p.m., a Kalihi woman, said to be in her 60s, was attacked in her Kilohi Street driveway by a 60-pound brown pit bull. The woman was treated for wounds at the scene and taken to The Queen's Medical Center in serious condition, police said.
The dog owner, a neighbor, was issued a dangerous-dog citation. Although the Humane Society responded to the incident, the dog owner elected to keep the pit bull confined at his home, police said.
Although infrequent, pit bull attacks have caused serious and even fatal injuries in Hawai'i. In October 2008, a mixed pit bull killed a baby girl in her Wai'anae home as she slept.
The bill that would prohibit owning a pit bull follows an incident Jan. 14 when a man allegedly turned his 70-pound pit bull loose on a police detective during a confrontation. The officer was bitten on the stomach and shot the dog, which later died.
Pit bull attacks have led a number of Mainland municipalities to ban or restrict ownership of the breed.
However, Humane Society spokeswoman Yim said the agency does not support prohibition of any specific breed of dog.
"It makes no sense for legislation to profile aggression by a breed," she said. "Even the friendliest dog can become aggressive in the wrong situation. For us, it really is a matter of the owner's responsibility."
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090129/NEWS01/901290351&s=d&page=5
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lol. Chihuahuas either. :)
Hey, do not underestimate the power of the violent Chihuahuas. With the proper irresponsible owner, I'm sure that a Chihuahua is more than capable of killing a grown man. :)
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Hey, do not underestimate the power of the violent Chihuahuas. With the proper irresponsible owner, I'm sure that a Chihuahua is more than capable of killing a grown man. :)
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In today's Advertiser. :-\
Pit bull attacks hospitalize 2 women
By Will Hoover
Advertiser Staff Writer
Two O'ahu men face dangerous-dog charges after their pit bulls attacked two women in separate incidents Tuesday, Honolulu police said yesterday.
Bryan Cheplic, spokesman for the city's Emergency Medical Services, said both women were hospitalized in serious condition as a result of dog bites.
The attacks came on the same day a measure was introduced in the state Legislature to prohibit ownership of pit bulls in Hawai'i.
The first dog attack happened around 11:45 a.m. near Kapolei High School. But police said the incident began earlier when two 3-year-old blue nose pit bulls tried to attack security guards at the school.
The dogs had been running loose in the area and suddenly rushed the guards, who managed to positioned a golf cart between themselves and the dogs, police said. The guards chased the dogs away.
The pit bulls then attacked a 59-year-old woman in her driveway on Kama'aha Avenue. The woman suffered lacerations to her right leg and left hand. Police said she fought the dogs off by punching them.
The woman was taken to Hawaii Medical Center West in serious condition. The case was turned over to HPD's criminal investigation division, police said.
Kawehi Yim, spokeswoman for the Hawaiian Humane Society, said the owner of the dogs voluntarily turned the pair over to the facility, where they were still being held yesterday.
Later Tuesday, at around 4:15 p.m., a Kalihi woman, said to be in her 60s, was attacked in her Kilohi Street driveway by a 60-pound brown pit bull. The woman was treated for wounds at the scene and taken to The Queen's Medical Center in serious condition, police said.
The dog owner, a neighbor, was issued a dangerous-dog citation. Although the Humane Society responded to the incident, the dog owner elected to keep the pit bull confined at his home, police said.
Although infrequent, pit bull attacks have caused serious and even fatal injuries in Hawai'i. In October 2008, a mixed pit bull killed a baby girl in her Wai'anae home as she slept.
The bill that would prohibit owning a pit bull follows an incident Jan. 14 when a man allegedly turned his 70-pound pit bull loose on a police detective during a confrontation. The officer was bitten on the stomach and shot the dog, which later died.
Pit bull attacks have led a number of Mainland municipalities to ban or restrict ownership of the breed.
However, Humane Society spokeswoman Yim said the agency does not support prohibition of any specific breed of dog.
"It makes no sense for legislation to profile aggression by a breed," she said. "Even the friendliest dog can become aggressive in the wrong situation. For us, it really is a matter of the owner's responsibility."
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RUNNING LOOSE.
Whose fault is that? The dogs?
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RUNNING LOOSE.
Whose fault is that? The dogs?
no matter what it's never ever EVER the animals fault for anything :-\ ???
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RUNNING LOOSE.
Whose fault is that? The dogs?
But isn't the issue that the dogs were dangerous? They attacked innocent people. What other breed does that? I'm starting to think banning the breed might not be such a bad idea afterall. :-\
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But isn't the issue that the dogs were dangerous? They attacked innocent people. What other breed does that? I'm starting to think banning the breed might not be such a bad idea afterall. :-\
Apparently you've never seen the video of two rots attacking a guy walking through a parking lot.
"big"Ldawg, I don't know your situation, I wasn't there, but from my experience with go knows how many pits over the years, mine and other peoples, I have never been bitten or seen a pit go after someone. For people to sit here and blame the breed is no different than me sitting here and blaming blacks for the majority of crime in the US.......and that I will do.....
Can we get a petition going to ban blacks? No more breeding and special liscencing for them to move into certain neighborhoods? Maybe we can euthanize the little blacks since statistically they are more prone to grow up and commit crimes?
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Apparently you've never seen the video of two rots attacking a guy walking through a parking lot.
"big"Ldawg, I don't know your situation, I wasn't there, but from my experience with go knows how many pits over the years, mine and other peoples, I have never been bitten or seen a pit go after someone. For people to sit here and blame the breed is no different than me sitting here and blaming blacks for the majority of crime in the US.......and that I will do.....
Can we get a petition going to ban blacks? No more breeding and special liscencing for them to move into certain neighborhoods? Maybe we can euthanize the little blacks since statistically they are more prone to grow up and commit crimes?
Did I ever blame the breed?....no I said ANIMALS.I am fully aware any breed dog is capable of attacking someone.And that there are precautions you can take to minimise it from happening but nothing you can do will ever guarantee your dog or any dog will not attack someone.that being said....I could care less if every pitbull dropped dead.
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Did I ever blame the breed?....no I said ANIMALS.I am fully aware any breed dog is capable of attacking someone.And that there are precautions you can take to minimise it from happening but nothing you can do will ever guarantee your dog or any dog will not attack someone.that being said....I could care less if every pitbull dropped dead.
I used the word "people"......not specifically you. Settle down "dawg".
And for what it's worth, I have been bitten by a poodle, and my brother was bitten by a cocker spaniel......but I have yet to be bitten by a vicious pitbull. ::)
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FOR THOSE WHO DONT BOTHER TO GE THE FACTS.. NUMEROUS STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET BIT BY A GERMAN SHEPHERD THAN A PIT.. the akc has stated numerous times that they are great family dogs.. in europe the staffordshire is called the ""nanny dog" because of how great it is with children..
the animal channel had a show on mike vick.. they told of the myths of the pit bull.. breeders of pits to fight have been on record stating that if you can get 1 out of 8 to fight you are lucky.. then why use that breed? because they are the strongest and most athletic dog around.. the show even had various experts on in regards to canines and they all stated that they are great dogs.. no more agressive than any other.. so what is the most aggressive "bite" dog.. the cocker spaniel.. where did the pit rank? 93rd.. get educated..
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Fucking hell...It's WRONG to "Ban" an entire breed of dogs just because they are more apt to attack people than other breeds.
The REAL CRIMINALS HERE ARE THE PEOPLE BREEDING THESE DOGS AND RAISING THEM, NOT THE DOGS.
Punish the people breeding and raising them for fighting or violence. These gang members and drug dealers!!!
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But isn't the issue that the dogs were dangerous? They attacked innocent people. What other breed does that? I'm starting to think banning the breed might not be such a bad idea afterall. :-\
Theres no denying that an attack from a Presa Canera or similar type dog is more lethal than that of a Min Pin. There's no denying that these canines are in the hands of some irresponsible folks.
There have also been the majority of people breeding the aggression out of these dogs and they have done a great job of it, unfortunately there are breeders/owners that have different motives and they are hurting the animal's possible existence. Everything negative associated with these dogs is most often the result of human intervention, so why is it this breeds fault? I don't believe it's fair that we paint with such a broad brush and have responsible owners with well behaved dogs pay the ultimate price through banning.
If theres an aggressive, unattended animal running around, shoot it in the head for all I care, fine owners, there are bi laws that need to be enforced. Public awareness, no different than all the other campaigns that exist(ed) like, wear seatbelts, dont drink and drive, shit like that, so owners learn to become more responsible, but just banning a specific breed entirely is retarded.
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all I know is if theres a couple of pitbulls in my back yard I'm not gonna find out if there friendly or not.there going down.fuck them and there owners and anyone else that has a problem with it.
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all I know is if theres a couple of pitbulls in my back yard I'm not gonna find out if there friendly or not.there going down.fuck them and there owners and anyone else that has a problem with it.
Dude, judging from the way you post, you probably tried to feed kibble to the dog that bit you by inserting it into it's cornhole and then claimed it just attacked you out of the blue.
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Dude, judging from the way you post, you probably tried to feed kibble to the dog that bit you by inserting it into it's cornhole and then claimed it just attacked you out of the blue.
I get the feeling "big"Ldawg was fucking with that dog that bit him and is still afraid to come clean to his parents about it.
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Apparently you've never seen the video of two rots attacking a guy walking through a parking lot.
"big"Ldawg, I don't know your situation, I wasn't there, but from my experience with go knows how many pits over the years, mine and other peoples, I have never been bitten or seen a pit go after someone. For people to sit here and blame the breed is no different than me sitting here and blaming blacks for the majority of crime in the US.......and that I will do.....
Can we get a petition going to ban blacks? No more breeding and special liscencing for them to move into certain neighborhoods? Maybe we can euthanize the little blacks since statistically they are more prone to grow up and commit crimes?
No, haven't seen the video. But I have read numerous stories about pit bulls attacking, injuring, and killing innocent people. It has happened here more than once.
Regarding your petition, we should include white males too, but only if we're really trying to put a dent in pedophilia, serial killers, and mass murders.
No, I'm not serious. Just highlighting how absurd your petition would be.
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Theres no denying that an attack from a Presa Canera or similar type dog is more lethal than that of a Min Pin. There's no denying that these canines are in the hands of some irresponsible folks.
There have also been the majority of people breeding the aggression out of these dogs and they have done a great job of it, unfortunately there are breeders/owners that have different motives and they are hurting the animal's possible existence. Everything negative associated with these dogs is most often the result of human intervention, so why is it this breeds fault? I don't believe it's fair that we paint with such a broad brush and have responsible owners with well behaved dogs pay the ultimate price through banning.
If theres an aggressive, unattended animal running around, shoot it in the head for all I care, fine owners, there are bi laws that need to be enforced. Public awareness, no different than all the other campaigns that exist(ed) like, wear seatbelts, dont drink and drive, shit like that, so owners learn to become more responsible, but just banning a specific breed entirely is retarded.
Yeah I understand that people are most likely the cause of these dogs becoming dangerous, but it's hard to deny what happens when the dogs are mistreated, not properly trained, etc. Seems like they become killing machines. Just look at the lady in the story I posted. She was minding her own business, was attacked by the dog, and wound up in the hospital.
I know dogs get mistreated all the time, but I never hear about Border Collies attacking innocent people. At least not here.
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What about lions? Can I keep a lion in my house and walk him down my neighborhood, or is that against the law? I mean, I don't like kittens that much, but I do like lions. Lions are nice in the hands of a responsible owner/trainer. I don't think it's fair to ban lions just because they are stronger and potentially more violent than those darn kittens. >:(
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Can we get a petition going to ban blacks? No more breeding and special liscencing for them to move into certain neighborhoods? Maybe we can euthanize the little blacks since statistically they are more prone to grow up and commit crimes?
And let's get one going to ban white men as well then - to protect the kids and people since white men are far more prone to be child rapists and serial killers statistically speaking.
In fact, we can ban all men - as regardless of race - you guys are FAR more prone to commit crimes, and especially violent ones. I, as a black woman, am far less likely to kill then any white man if you look at stats. ;)
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And let's get one going to ban white men as well then - to protect the kids and people since white men are far more prone to be child rapists and serial killers statistically speaking.
In fact, we can ban all men - as regardless of race - you guys are FAR more prone to commit crimes, and especially violent ones. I, as a black woman, am far less likely to kill then any white man if you look at stats. ;)
We can't help it. It's all in the testosterone. :)
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What about lions? Can I keep a lion in my house and walk him down my neighborhood, or is that against the law? I mean, I don't like kittens that much, but I do like lions. Lions are nice in the hands of a responsible owner/trainer. I don't think it's fair to ban lions just because they are stronger and potentially more violent than those darn kittens. >:(
You're comparing a lion to a dog? oh boy... ::)
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You're comparing a lion to a dog? oh boy... ::)
I just like lions.
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And let's get one going to ban white men as well then - to protect the kids and people since white men are far more prone to be child rapists and serial killers statistically speaking.
In fact, we can ban all men - as regardless of race - you guys are FAR more prone to commit crimes, and especially violent ones. I, as a black woman, am far less likely to kill then any white man if you look at stats. ;)
Anything for you :-*
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Nobody needs a fuucking pitbull.
I'll bet 95% of them are in the hands of people who have no business having pets at all, let alone a killer dog breed.
Nice, happy middle class suburbanites do not have these animals.
You are right... those people are the gun totting idiots who have children who often kill the parents
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What about lions? Can I keep a lion in my house and walk him down my neighborhood, or is that against the law? I mean, I don't like kittens that much, but I do like lions. Lions are nice in the hands of a responsible owner/trainer. I don't think it's fair to ban lions just because they are stronger and potentially more violent than those darn kittens. >:(
Haha.
Very good post loco.
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I say feed the pitbulls to crocodiles, alligators, lions, bears and anacondas. I would love to see a anaconda coil around on eatf those fuckers and squeeze till his eyes pop out...then swallow him whole..yeah. Someone call National Geographic....