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Title: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 26, 2009, 01:03:19 PM
Im trying to go 8 weeks without cheating, it only slows ur progress.
Anyone done this before?
The mood swings must be horrible
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: kyomu on January 26, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
Im trying to go 8 weeks without cheating, it only slows ur progress.
Anyone done this before?
The mood swings must be horrible
Compete. That pressure will never make you cheat. If i dont compete, i will cheat 100%.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Sam on January 26, 2009, 02:03:07 PM
Compete. That pressure will never make you cheat. If i dont compete, i will cheat 100%.

There speaks the truth
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 26, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
I live the cheat lifestyle.  "Cheat" days are when I actually follow a diet, about 1 day per week.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Balloon on January 26, 2009, 02:21:13 PM
I don't diet at all.

I once went from 230-190 and all that happened is i looked "slightly" leaner.

I have found that the more i eat, the leaner i get.

You really need to get ur metabolism racing, so ur hungry every 2 hours, but never overeat in one meal.

grazing every couple of hours, but never till full.

You will look lean as fuck, while adding bodyweight (muscle)

i don;t even watch what i eat. for example 1 meal may be a snickers bar and a pint of milk.
Cakes, chocolate, nothing is off limits. Just never eat too much in one sitting. eat till 3/4 full.


It's all about jacking up your metabolism.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Meso_z on January 26, 2009, 02:25:42 PM
Im trying to go 8 weeks without cheating, it only slows ur progress.
Anyone done this before?
The mood swings must be horrible

just have some low and high carb days..
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Im trying to go 8 weeks without cheating, it only slows ur progress.
Anyone done this before?
The mood swings must be horrible
NEVER!!!!! Actually they come out with a new flavor of Oreo every year in late july-august when im dieting and i eat 2 of them but that's the worst i have ever done. I usually feel so guilty after that i have a cardio meltdown.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: JasonH on January 26, 2009, 02:35:12 PM
Nothing wrong with cheating on a diet, even precontest.

Set a day (or two) aside in the week to have a cheat meal. The thought of an impending meal will give you a mental release - something to look forward to and the meal itself will give your metabolism a little kick more often than not for the better.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: HTexan on January 26, 2009, 02:36:52 PM
yes  :(
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 02:42:13 PM
Nothing wrong with cheating on a diet, even precontest.

Set a day (or two) aside in the week to have a cheat meal. The thought of an impending meal will give you a mental release - something to look forward to and the meal itself will give your metabolism a little kick more often than not for the better.
That should only go for the people who know what they are doing. Cheating should only be used if necessary. Everyone i know who has successfully dieted down as lean as they could go was consistent with their diet. The only time you should start throwing in calories is if you are in the final week/weeks of your diet and you are clearly about as lean as you are going to get and you just start dropping pounds like crazy out of the blue. I don't recommend cheating mainly because it is hard to stop once you start. I think people think of junk food when they think of cheating. The term refeed should be used and you should raise your calories to maintenance and use cleaner foods like oatmeal. If you are dieting hard enough it will be delicious.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Meso_z on January 26, 2009, 02:56:32 PM
What about suger free gums?

Do you chew 2-3 a day while dieting?

it helps combat hunger.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 03:03:00 PM
What about suger free gums?

Do you chew 2-3 a day while dieting?

it helps combat hunger.
Yes but you will get to a point where the sorbitol is just going to cause you to fart and shit all the time if you go low enough. I personally don't have a problem with it. Remember that sorbitol is a laxative.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 26, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
NEVER!!!!! Actually they come out with a new flavor of Oreo every year in late july-august when im dieting and i eat 2 of them but that's the worst i have ever done. I usually feel so guilty after that i have a cardio meltdown.

Leafy do u find dieting hard?
Fuck, im 3 weeks in and ive been acting shitty lately especially at work.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 26, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
if your dieting for a contest DONT CHEAT! No way! Only when they are planned "cheat meals" or "cheat days"

if your not dieting for a show, then what the fuck does it matter?
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 03:07:47 PM
Leafy do u find dieting hard?
Fuck, im 3 weeks in and ive been acting shitty lately especially at work.
Yea im bitter and mean as hell when i diet hahahaa. It is normal. I mean im fine really until people start asking me questions. I only dieted for 6 weeks this year when i prepped for my show so it was very mild.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 26, 2009, 03:22:53 PM
Leafy do u find dieting hard?
Fuck, im 3 weeks in and ive been acting shitty lately especially at work.

maybe you aren't getting enough carbs or fat

unless you're obese and need to constantly eat, i don't think peoples moods should change that much unless they are cutting down to contest level body fat

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Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Relentless on January 26, 2009, 03:24:51 PM
I don't diet at all.

I once went from 230-190 and all that happened is i looked "slightly" leaner.

I have found that the more i eat, the leaner i get.

You really need to get ur metabolism racing, so ur hungry every 2 hours, but never overeat in one meal.

grazing every couple of hours, but never till full.

You will look lean as fuck, while adding bodyweight (muscle)

i don;t even watch what i eat. for example 1 meal may be a snickers bar and a pint of milk.
Cakes, chocolate, nothing is off limits. Just never eat too much in one sitting. eat till 3/4 full.


It's all about jacking up your metabolism.

This is pretty sage advice.  Most fat people push their stomachs to failure by eating as much as they possibly can (and of food lacking nutritional value).  Portion control works.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 26, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
maybe you aren't getting enough carbs or fat

unless you're obese and need to constantly eat, i don't think peoples moods should change that much unless they are cutting down to contest level body fat

E

Well, its just exaggerated emotions.
For example something that would annoy me normally would piss me off now, its on and off.
That said i am dieting very strictly and focusing hard to stay on. All salads and protein, except a few times a week where I eat oatmeal in the morning to refeed.

Its getting good results though, the bodyfat is melting away.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 26, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
if your dieting for a contest DONT CHEAT! No way! Only when they are planned "cheat meals" or "cheat days"

if your not dieting for a show, then what the fuck does it matter?

Its a personal goal, ive never been below 9%. The goal is 7%
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 26, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
Yea im bitter and mean as hell when i diet hahahaa. It is normal. I mean im fine really until people start asking me questions. I only dieted for 6 weeks this year when i prepped for my show so it was very mild.

6 weeks!! u ripped bastid  ;)
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 26, 2009, 03:58:58 PM
Its a personal goal, ive never been below 9%. The goal is 7%

what kind of diet are u doing? if its low carb then a planned cheat or refeed woudl be beneficial.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on January 26, 2009, 04:04:27 PM
You should have a cheat meal once a week or so. I tried not doing it while dieting, my metabilism slowed down too much. Depends upon your cycle, i did a 3 day high, medium, low carb cycle, cheat meal on the second high day.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2009, 04:05:16 PM
once-twice per week.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: MAXX on January 26, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
keep your fat intake up with some nuts/peanutbutter/oil. otherwise you will get massive cravings for chocolate and junk food.

don't overdo it though, alot of cals in fattys.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: no one on January 26, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
once-twice per week.

of all the people who 'compete' that posted in this thread (read: guys who make an embarrassment of themselves on stage), judging from this reply, you're the only one who knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 06:21:25 PM
of all the people who 'compete' that posted in this thread (read: guys who make an embarrassment of themselves on stage), judging from this reply, you're the only one who knows what he's talking about.
Im just saying what works for me and what i've done. Do whatever you like. You wanna load yourself up on clen and other kinds of stimulants and cheat then be my guest. I know a guy who did it and refused to listen to me and he entered the show at about 9% bf and couldn't get any lower.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: pumpster on January 26, 2009, 06:22:32 PM
Cheat meal or day once a week's necessary mentally and physically. Unrealistic to do without, and gives you something to look forward to and reward for the sacrifice. It won't hurt you if you're good the rest of the time and will in fact help you keep on track.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: chaos on January 26, 2009, 06:22:32 PM
LOL, alot of eating disorders in this thread.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on January 26, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
I've never used cheat meals but that is because im young. The metabolism does slow down drastically. I usually try to measure it by my heart rate. If my pulse starts going below 60 bpm then i need to get some more calories. I have had it get down as low as 45 bpm during dieting even while using an EC stack.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 26, 2009, 07:26:11 PM
I've never used cheat meals but that is because im young. The metabolism does slow down drastically. I usually try to measure it by my heart rate. If my pulse starts going below 60 bpm then i need to get some more calories. I have had it get down as low as 45 bpm during dieting even while using an EC stack.

yea my heart rate got really low too, like a corpse lol.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 27, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
Yea im bitter and mean as hell when i diet hahahaa. It is normal. I mean im fine really until people start asking me questions. I only dieted for 6 weeks this year when i prepped for my show so it was very mild.

What bodyfat percentage did you start from?
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: divcom on January 27, 2009, 06:50:20 PM
JOJ cheats.  He said he has 4 meals with a cheat every other day for the last meal.  I'm taking bets he is having a cheat meal everyday during his preps...based on his declining placings. Do MT athlete reps read this board?

(http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=41&amp%3bstc=1)

 
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Disgusted on January 27, 2009, 06:52:12 PM
All my guys cheat once a week all day long.
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: divcom on January 27, 2009, 06:59:11 PM
All my guys cheat once a week all day long.

what's their cheat meal?  he is dropping mcdonalds at 50 grams fat per burger.  how many  burgers this guy eats in one setting?  6-7 days a week going into a contest.  come on!  joj is falling just like kamali, didnt even qualify for the O with a weak IM lineup.   
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:02:34 PM
what's their cheat meal?  he is dropping mcdonalds at 50 grams fat per burger.  how many  burgers this guy eats in one setting?  6-7 days a week going into a contest.  come on!  joj is falling just like kamali, didnt even qualify for the O with a weak IM lineup.   

joj never does well in the early shows, but regularly finds a way to win a fall/late summer show for the past 3 years, dont write him off just yet .
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:03:41 PM
All my guys cheat once a week all day long.

my gf hated this part of the diet   :P
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: divcom on January 27, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
joj never does well in the early shows, but regularly finds a way to win a fall/late summer show for the past 3 years, dont write him off just yet .

sorry...i must be falling asleep at the wheel.  has he ever won a show?  seriously...i dont remember.  which show/s?

(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/jackson/uspf/images/IMG_0056.jpg)
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: tbombz on January 27, 2009, 07:10:52 PM
I cheated one time throughout the whole duration of my last diet.



She was an old friend of mine.


 

Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
sorry...i must be falling asleep at the wheel.  has he ever won a show?  seriously...i dont remember.  which show/s?

(http://www.thebiguniverse.com/jackson/uspf/images/IMG_0056.jpg)

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Jackson,+Johnnie+O
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: Disgusted on January 27, 2009, 09:00:16 PM
what's their cheat meal?  he is dropping mcdonalds at 50 grams fat per burger.  how many  burgers this guy eats in one setting?  6-7 days a week going into a contest.  come on!  joj is falling just like kamali, didnt even qualify for the O with a weak IM lineup.   

Come one what? They eat what ever they want all day long, simple as that. WTF is JOJ and what does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: When dieting do you cheat?
Post by: CalvinH on January 28, 2009, 06:47:09 AM
When I diet I consider it cheating.