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im finding fatloss slows down when i sleep 8-9 but is much faster at 5-7 hours
with less sleep i can actually get away with more food and look dryer, i just dont feel the greatest, and am tempted to catch up on rest when i get little only to realise when i do catch up on the rest i seem to flatten out a bit and soft like a wet conte
ive never really stuck to sleeping very little and adjusting myself to that just to see what it does for my physique, my hypothesis is i would feel a bit shitty but look ripped, like a trade off like anything else
i would love to hear stories from my falconites on this matter
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8-9 hrs. of sleep is overrated and too much, people would do way better on 5-6, i sleep MAYBE 6 hours if i'm lucky.
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8-9 or I start to feel run down.
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8-9 hrs. of sleep is overrated and too much, people would do way better on 5-6, i sleep MAYBE 6 hours if i'm lucky.
I sleep, and I get up when I feel rested, usually between 8-8.5 hours.
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I sleep, and I get up when I feel rested, usually between 8-8.5 hours.
i feel like shit when i sleep that much.
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i feel like shit when i sleep that much.
The less you sleep, the more time you can devout to posting at getbig.com!!
Right?
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The less you sleep, the more time you can devout to posting at getbig.com!! r
Right?
;D
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i feel like shit when i sleep that much.
I get under 8hrs and I start accumulating sleep debt. Over 9 and I just can't get going. It works for me.
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I get under 8hrs and I start accumulating sleep debt. Over 9 and I just can't get going. It works for me.
sounds like you found the right recipe for your body, good stuff.
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I used to work 6am-2pm.
I went to sleep at midnight-1am...then up at 5 am.
Max 4-5 hours per night...... NO napping. Did this for 4 months.
I also feel better on less sleep, more energy etc.
If i sleep for 9 hours, i get up, then want to nap a couple of hours later.
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6 hours would do me though most nights i get 7.
I have done exams, competed had hard workouts on 4 though on numerous occassions
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I wish I could function on that little sleep, anything less than like 9 hours and I feel like a zombie and its difficult to function, I feel uncoordinated and extremely irritable. I don't know why exactly, I have just always been that way.
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Depends how hard I work & workout, how I'm eating, stress levels, etc. 4 or 5 hours is never enough tho. I can get by on 6 or zonk for 12.
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I feel like shit no matter how much or little I sleep.
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When I try really hard I shoot for 8 hours and settle with an average of 7. On the shitty low end, I get 5-6 hours. But it takes a couple of days before I acquire a sleep deficit and actually start getting headaches and losing tons of strength.
I think a healthy 6-7 hours of sleep should do most people good, all things considered. Laying in bed trying to fall asleep and hitting the snooze button and wasting 2 hours in bed is not productive. Get to bed, get your ZZZ's on and get the fuck out of bed. You'll feel like a million bucks. Might sound insignificant but it's pretty outstanding. I just used to lay in bed all night, sleep for about an hour and then hit the snooze button for a couple hours. :-X
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I feel like shit no matter how much or little I sleep.
matches how you look also ;D
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as a pure ecto myself i need at least 8/9 hours especially if i work out 1 hour a day 6/7 days a week (to failure).
10/11 and im completely refreshed.
i sleep only 6/7 hours a night but on holidays i can sleep 8 to 11 hours and not only my muscles grow faster, makes me feel like im someone else.
sleeping 6/7 hours a night due to work means slowed down processus to put on quality mass, but means that i also eat less and have less bodyfat.On holidays i also eat more, but usually its in summer so i can play basketball outdoor as cardio.
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most ectos myself included need at least 8/9 hours especially if they work out 1 hour a day to failure.
10/11 and im completely refreshed.
i sleep only 6/7 hours a night but on holidays i can sleep 8 to 11 hours and not only my muscles grow a lot faster but i also feel like im someone else.
sleeping 6/7 hours a night due to work means slower processus to put on quality mass, byt means that i also eat less and less bodyfat.
Im sorry buit i dont belive that diff bodytypes need diff amount of sleep.
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Im sorry buit i dont belive that diff bodytypes need diff amount of sleep.
cool.
fixed post.
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well the key for MASS is GRAVITY thus when you sleep less and are STANDING you experience more gravity or are spending more time in a GRAVITY STRESSED environment. when sleeping your shut down and wasting away
for me when im training alot and eating alot ill feel wired and stay up and get 7-8 hours ..ill keep this up for about 3 days and by this time im looking good and leaner but then i crash hard for like 11 hours then look flat and soft :(
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well the key for MASS is GRAVITY thus when you sleep less and are STANDING you experience more gravity or are spending more time in a GRAVITY STRESSED environment. when sleeping your shut down and wasting away
you always surprise me with more and stupider statements everytime you post.
Why do you always question yourself about the way you lift, eat, sleep? It'S borderline obsession.
I lift since 10 years, am a shorter version of you with very similar build ,muscle shape and mass yet i dont feel like i need to question the way i train that much anymore (ironically i made most gains that way), the only thing you need to know even after years of training is that you have to keep consistant to make progresses, considering you cannot change the way your body put on muscles anyways with a different nutrition o exercises: it's all about genetics and being content with what you obtain being consistant.
Be consistant sticking to the basics and if you cannot be satisfied with your results it means you have some other mental issue or something. What is the point of being constantly unsatisfied with your physique?
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maybe if you were open to advice you would get better flagda?
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maybe if you were open to advice you would get better flagda?
what is getting better "goudy" ? Why would i need the others "help" to "get better"?
Since when do other people but your loved ones (parents or girl , when it's really the case) want to help you "get better" ?
It looks like you still think you need other people "advices" to get "better". Quite immature and utopian again, for someone your age.
It looks like you obviously rely on what the others think about you to define your own hapiness.
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sleep is the cousin of death
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Until recently I could get by on 5-6 hours just fine. Now that my training is getting longer and harder I will sometimes wake up after 10 hours if I dont set the alarm clock. I can get up after 6-7 hrs just fine but I will be a lot more sore than if I just slept another 1-2 hrs.
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Until recently I could get by on 5-6 hours just fine. Now that my training is getting longer and harder I will sometimes wake up after 10 hours if I dont set the alarm clock. I can get up after 6-7 hrs just fine but I will be a lot more sore than if I just slept another 1-2 hrs.
are you using steroids? are you ecto, meso, endo?
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you always surprise me with more and stupider statements everytime you post.
Why do you always question yourself about the way you lift, eat, sleep? It'S borderline obsession.
I lift since 10 years, am a shorter version of you with very similar build ,muscle shape and mass yet i dont feel like i need to question the way i train that much anymore (ironically i made most gains that way), the only thing you need to know even after years of training is that you have to keep consistant to make progresses, considering you cannot change the way your body put on muscles anyways with a different nutrition o exercises: it's all about genetics and being content with what you obtain being consistant.
a bit of a double entendre in how you want me to be and how i am, for me its mere discussion and collaborating others perspectives for my own collective conscious
you basically said a whole lot of obvious...
in your little world you are satisfied and deny other perspectives and ridicule them
for me im humble and i know life is a long journey of learning. and PEOPLE can and should be used as tools for wisdom, dont be so cocky to overlook something else someone is doing
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You could learn a lot from Jonny Falcon if you would just listen.
In teh top 10 biggest guys on this forum.
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Until recently I could get by on 5-6 hours just fine. Now that my training is getting longer and harder I will sometimes wake up after 10 hours if I dont set the alarm clock. I can get up after 6-7 hrs just fine but I will be a lot more sore than if I just slept another 1-2 hrs.
i bet your actuall muscle size is bigger with the less sleep( think of your pump from you workout slowly dwindiling down to nothing the more the muscle is not being stimulated) because during sleep we get smaller and smaller unless we have alot of food on our stomachs when we sleep or eat a bunch in the middle of sleep (wich could turn to fat also)
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a bit of a double entendre in how you want me to be and how i am, for me its mere discussion and collaborating others perspectives for my own collective conscious
you basically said a whole lot of obvious...
doesnt seem that obvious to you if you need to ask strangers how they manage their rest/sleep to maximize "muscular gains" ::)
I'm just wondering why you seem so insecure about your knowldeges when in fact you already reached your natural potential and burried most people's physiques on here when posting your pics some time ago.
I'm just saying, dude, what you're doing works fine and whatever the way you eat or sleep, it aint going to change much to the way you look, especially as a natural. So chill and quit being so insecure about the way you live.
Posting more stupid pics of you aint going to cure this either.
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doesnt seem that obvious to you if you need to ask strangers how they manage their rest/sleep to maximize "muscular gains" ::)
I'm just wondering why you seem so insecure about your knowldeges when in fact you already reached your natural potential and burried most people's physiques on here when posting your pics some time ago.
I'm just saying, dude, what you're doing works fine and whatever the way you eat or sleep, it aint going to change much to the way you look, especially as a natural. So chill and quit being so insecure about the way you live.
Posting more stupid pics of you aint going to cure this either.
in your little world you are satisfied and deny other perspectives and ridicule them
for me im humble and i know life is a long journey of learning. and PEOPLE can and should be used as tools for wisdom, dont be so cocky to overlook something else someone is doing
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are you using steroids? are you ecto, meso, endo?
No gear here. Im endo for the most part (6' 300lbs w/high 20's bf%).
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Im sorry buit i dont belive that diff bodytypes need diff amount of sleep.
We respond well to different rep schemes based upon ratio of fast and slow twitch muscle fibers, which is dependent upon body type.
Is central nervous system recovery time in any way tied to ratio of fast/slow twitch?
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hoonestly i have no idea lol
i dont know much about biology. sorry dude i am sure others heare can chirp in
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You could learn a lot from Jonny Falcon if you would just listen.
In teh top 10 biggest guys on this forum.
you dont even know how i look and what i achieved. If you were a real friend and werent an internet stranger , if i had any real interest into showing off to you i would but this is plain retarded over the internet.
Let me just tell you believe it or not that jhonny knows nothing i dont know, again i have the exact same structure and muscle development than him, and that's what i'm telling him here; quit worrying and just do your thing, it's allright. It's precisely because we both have a very similar body that i understand him and what he might think more than anyone else.
None of us is going to look like ronnie coleman or dennis wolf discovering a miracle food or secret formula... The fact that some of you guys are constantly guessing how to look better is borderline an obsession more than a passion. You know you're not going to look like guys you despise and admire at the same time, the guys we see in the pictures posted on here, because they use steroids.
Maybe you guys are getting too influenced by this and maybe it's preventing you from enjoying what you have already.
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matches how you look also ;D
What did I do to deserve that abuse?
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What did I do to deserve that abuse?
ah man it was tongue in cheek hence the smilie...i dont know you. Apologies if offended
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ah man it was tongue in cheek hence the smilie...i dont know you. Apologies if offended
ok
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in your little world you are satisfied and deny other perspectives and ridicule them
for me im humble and i know life is a long journey of learning. and PEOPLE can and should be used as tools for wisdom, dont be so cocky to overlook something else someone is doing
I dont deny your perspective im just saying ive been there before and that i know why you feel that way. I dont think its a positive perspective that could lead you into positives things. I even tell you how I managed to get rid of some of my own insecurities and that i learnt that wathever you eat or how you sleep isnt going to do half as much as you believe it would to your body. I'm also wondering why you need to ask this on the internet and why you dont ask this to real people in your everydaylife. On a side note i doubt anyone would want to share what he learnt to strangers for free either. You d have to be very naive to think so. That's why some people pay "personal trainers".
Now about ridiculing you, you did most of it by yourself so don't complain. Paradoxally im one of the only guys here who praises your natural physique and your down to earth side, but stop whining because all the other stupid stuff you say might be considered as stupid by other people. You'll eventually get rid of that too, being tired of being laughed at for this whole useless "wigger" trait of your personality. You dont need this. For some reasons you still believe you do, but hey that's your life not mine.
Being humble doesnt fit well with posting pics of you to strangers every other week on a internet messageboard for attention either.
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I can't function on less than eight hours. :-X
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I will usually sleep about 6-7 hours per night during the week, but then on weekends I will sleep up to 12-16 hours per night. I function best on 9-10 hours.
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I dont deny your perspective im just saying ive been there before and that i know why you feel that way. I dont think its a positive perspective that could lead you into positives things. I even tell you how I managed to get rid of some of my own insecurities and that i learnt that wathever you eat or how you sleep isnt going to do half as much as you believe it would to your body. I'm also wondering why you need to ask this on the internet and why you dont ask this to real people in your everydaylife. On a side note i doubt anyone would want to share what he learnt to strangers for free either. You d have to be very naive to think so. That's why some people pay "personal trainers".
Now about ridiculing you, you did most of it by yourself so don't complain. Paradoxally im one of the only guys here who praises your natural physique and your down to earth side, but stop whining because all the other stupid stuff you say might be considered as stupid by other people. You'll eventually get rid of that too, being tired of being laughed at for this whole useless "wigger" trait of your personality. You dont need this. For some reasons you still believe you do, but hey that's your life not mine.
Being humble doesnt fit well with posting pics of you to strangers every other week on a internet messageboard for attention either.
whats wrong big guy?
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I get bad insomnia. I have no problem staying asleep when I finally get off, it's the "getting off".
I tend to have 4-5 nights of terrible sleep - 3 or 4 hrs and then one night where I end up sleeping for about 10 hrs.
Then it all starts up again.
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What did I do to deserve that abuse?
meltdown
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When I get less than eight hours I fall asleep on the train.
More than ten and I feel lethargic the rest of the day.
The most important thing for me is getting some solid sleep before 12, I always feel better sleeping 21.00 to 05.00 than 01.00 to 09.00.
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I get bad insomnia. I have no problem staying asleep when I finally get off, it's the "getting off".
I tend to have 4-5 nights of terrible sleep - 3 or 4 hrs and then one night where I end up sleeping for about 10 hrs.
Then it all starts up again.
I have similar issues if I don't stick to a schedule and just leave stressing and thinking on the bathroom counter with the toothbrush.
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Normally i get 7-8 hrs. Min of 6 hrs, max of 9hrs.
Studies have shown that too much sleep can be as bad as too little sleep.
8 hrs is recommended and thats feels enough for me...
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I get bad insomnia. I have no problem staying asleep when I finally get off, it's the "getting off".
I tend to have 4-5 nights of terrible sleep - 3 or 4 hrs and then one night where I end up sleeping for about 10 hrs.
Then it all starts up again.
Me too. Right now, it's like 3:41am & I am up watching a tivoed Jeopardy from last nite. Maybe I need to go "get off". Insomnia is the worst thing for a b-ber especially when training for a show.
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Sounds like Jade's man isn't doing his part for the team.
You might want to have a sit down about that.
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fair few experts in this thread
not unexpected at getbig.com
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Rust NEVER sleeps!!
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Jt Tsunami has spent countless hours in bed with bodybuilders.
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8-9 hrs. of sleep is overrated and too much, people would do way better on 5-6, i sleep MAYBE 6 hours if i'm lucky.
True story! 5-6 hrs with a short nap in the afternoon works PERFECT for me. I find too much sleep is actually worse than too little.
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"Rest is a weapon"-Jason Bourne.
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im finding fatloss slows down when i sleep 8-9 but is much faster at 5-7 hours
with less sleep i can actually get away with more food and look dryer, i just dont feel the greatest, and am tempted to catch up on rest when i get little only to realise when i do catch up on the rest i seem to flatten out a bit and soft like a wet conte
ive never really stuck to sleeping very little and adjusting myself to that just to see what it does for my physique, my hypothesis is i would feel a bit shitty but look ripped, like a trade off like anything else
i would love to hear stories from my falconites on this matter
Yet another proof which underlines the fact, that you are an idiot.
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Sounds like Jade's man isn't doing his part for the team.
You might want to have a sit down about that.
No, J does his part & then some & then a little bit more. ;) Falling asleep & staying asleep has always been a major issue for me.
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you always surprise me with more and stupider statements everytime you post.
Why do you always question yourself about the way you lift, eat, sleep? It'S borderline obsession.
I lift since 10 years, am a shorter version of you with very similar build ,muscle shape and mass yet i dont feel like i need to question the way i train that much anymore (ironically i made most gains that way), the only thing you need to know even after years of training is that you have to keep consistant to make progresses, considering you cannot change the way your body put on muscles anyways with a different nutrition o exercises: it's all about genetics and being content with what you obtain being consistant.
Be consistant sticking to the basics and if you cannot be satisfied with your results it means you have some other mental issue or something. What is the point of being constantly unsatisfied with your physique?
another internet Greek statue. ::)
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are you using steroids? are you ecto, meso, endo?
OMG why are you thinking about this so much!!!
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a bit of a double entendre in how you want me to be and how i am, for me its mere discussion and collaborating others perspectives for my own collective conscious
you basically said a whole lot of obvious...
in your little world you are satisfied and deny other perspectives and ridicule them
for me im humble and i know life is a long journey of learning. and PEOPLE can and should be used as tools for wisdom, dont be so cocky to overlook something else someone is doing
If anyone thinks daddywaddy is crazy, you just need to read this post to verify that he's absolutely not.
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meltdown
Do you have a team of chimps reading GetBig to alert you to possible meltdowns? :D
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I wish I could function on that little sleep, anything less than like 9 hours and I feel like a zombie and its difficult to function, I feel uncoordinated and extremely irritable. I don't know why exactly, I have just always been that way.
plenty of time for sleep when your dead.
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Yet another proof which underlines the fact, that you are an idiot.
what makes me an idiot if i realize i look dryer and leaner with less sleep
please point out this "proof" specifically, perhaps you are man enough to debate in a mere confrontation of wits and logic
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what makes me an idiot if i realize i look dryer and leaner with less sleep
please point out this "proof" specifically, perhaps you are man enough to debate in a mere confrontation of wits and logic
Johnny, youre a loser! :-*
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since this thread is fully of shitty attitudes ill save the thread
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To refresh the body, you need to reach REM sleep...Some people never really stay into REM sleep to actually recover...
If you can find a drug(cough GHB cough cough) that puts you into REM sleep, then you truly would only need just a few hours and maybe a power nap...
If anyone is sleeping over 10 hours a day on a regular basis, more times then not these people probably have cronic Depression....
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To refresh the body, you need to reach REM sleep...Some people never really stay into REM sleep to actually recover...
If you can find a drug(cough GHB cough cough) that puts you into REM sleep, then you truly would only need just a few hours and maybe a power nap...
If anyone is sleeping over 10 hours a day on a regular basis, more times then not these people probably have cronic Depression....
if you're dreaming you're in REM sleep, the more vivid the better.
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waiting for onlyme to come and say "i only sleep 5 min a night"
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if you're dreaming you're in REM sleep, the more vivid the better.
There is also something called NREM(stages 1-3) where dreaming in very rare...
If you want to have more vivid dreams. Try just taking some extra Zinc(but too much can be dangerous and unhealthy)...
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There is also something called NREM(stages 1-3) where dreaming in very rare...
If you want to have more vivid dreams. Try just taking some extra Zinc(but too much can be dangerous and unhealthy)...
Want more vivid dreams, try ambien. I have some screwed up dreams that I could swear were real on that shit.
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I get bad insomnia. I have no problem staying asleep when I finally get off, it's the "getting off".
I tend to have 4-5 nights of terrible sleep - 3 or 4 hrs and then one night where I end up sleeping for about 10 hrs.
Then it all starts up again.
I suffer the same cycle.
I lay in bed for 8 or more hours and end up sleeping for 4.
Then I have days on which I'll sleep for 10 hours.
There's no rhyme or reason...no pattern.
It really sucks; I feel like the walking dead.
I'm going to try taking some melatonin tonight.
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Usually about 7 hrs or less but at least for the last 20-25 years I have at least 45min to an hour nap everyday usually around 1pm.
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Want more vivid dreams, try ambien. I have some screwed up dreams that I could swear were real on that shit.
my dreams are too vivid lol they keep me tossing and turning. the night before i remember i was dreaming about some spider and i was wondering where it was in my dream, and last night i was dreaming about some ancient civilizaion like on an island just above water that was millions of years old!