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Title: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 11:36:20 AM
I'll be somewere between 200-210lbs by the time I diet down enough to have abs.probably blurry at 210 chiseled by 200.I think thats a decent bodyweight for a natural.but some tuff guy thinks otherwise.was just curious as to what others think.BTW I'm 5'10.
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Post by: Beefjake on January 27, 2009, 11:50:10 AM
5'7" and 205 now.

I'd say in around 180-185 I'd see my abs. There is a faint shadow of them even now...

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Post by: The True Adonis on January 27, 2009, 11:52:21 AM
I'll be somewere between 200-210lbs by the time I diet down enough to have abs.probably blurry at 210 chiseled by 200.I think thats a decent bodyweight for a natural.but some tuff guy thinks otherwise.was just curious as to what others think.BTW I'm 5'10.
If you are natural then you will not be chiseled at 200 my friend.  You will probably need to lose at least 20-50 lbs if not more, from 200.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
If you are natural then you will not be chiseled at 200 my friend.  You will probably need to lose at least 20-50 lbs if not more, from 200.

how could you possibly come to that conclusion.I started my diet at 266.2lbs.I'm currently 247lbs and mid section is starting to come in nicely.and the last time I had decent abs was 4 years ago and I weighed 190lbs.since then I've put on more muscle and am allot stronger of course.are you claiming all naturals at a height of 5'10 should have abs at the same weight?I hope not because up until now I've always thought of you as rather educated.
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Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2009, 12:12:29 PM
If you are natural then you will not be chiseled at 200 my friend.  You will probably need to lose at least 20-50 lbs if not more, from 200.

Isn't it funny how people think they are so much bigger than they really are.  :-[
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 27, 2009, 12:20:54 PM
how could you possibly come to that conclusion.I started my diet at 266.2lbs.I'm currently 247lbs and mid section is starting to come in nicely.and the last time I had decent abs was 4 years ago and I weighed 190lbs.since then I've put on more muscle and am allot stronger of course.are you claiming all naturals at a height of 5'10 should have abs at the same weight?I hope not because up until now I've always thought of you as rather educated.
Post some pictures and I will show you what I mean.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 27, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
Honestly ... I still have visible abs at 260 lbs. or so. Then again, I'm 6'2".
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: PJim on January 27, 2009, 12:24:50 PM
If you are natural then you will not be chiseled at 200 my friend.  You will probably need to lose at least 20-50 lbs if not more, from 200.

TA telling it like it is once again.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:27:55 PM
really crazy abs:176cm 74kg
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
where would i find these abs you speak of   do i have them??
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Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:46:53 PM
where would i find these abs you speak of   do i have them??

first of all you should search your humor
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 12:47:32 PM
hahahahaha, no fuccking way are you going to be at 210 shredded, more than likely 175-180 if you're lucky.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
hahahahaha, no fuccking way are you going to be at 210 shredded, more than likely 175-180 if you're lucky.

at what weight do you see your abs dave?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
at what weight do you see your abs dave?
320.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 12:52:25 PM
i have them at around 231lbs at the minute.

To stand on stage ripped i am guessing 205-10 MAX

I also think i could have them at 250ish still
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: PJim on January 27, 2009, 12:52:47 PM
hahahahaha, no fuccking way are you going to be at 210 shredded, more than likely 175-180 if you're lucky.

Bang on. Key word being lucky.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2009, 12:53:21 PM
first of all you should search your humor
first you should eat my ass you attetion seeking homo  who the fuck cares when you can see your abs
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 12:53:51 PM
first you should eat my ass you attetion seeking homo  who the fuck cares when you can see your abs


you destroyed me
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 12:57:43 PM
Bang on. Key word being lucky.
it cracks me up when these huge monsters think they'll be a pre contest Dorian Yates by just dropping their calories and that by doing 4 hours of cardio a day all they're going to lose is bodyfat and lose zero muscle mass. ::)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: tbombz on January 27, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
a better question is... at what weight do you tink you would look your best on a bodybuilding stage ?

me... with my current build....i think id get down to 175-185 before i was shredded.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:01:28 PM
195 i would be ripped to the bone...i would also look like a bag of bonest at that weight and my height
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 27, 2009, 01:15:11 PM
195 i would be ripped to the bone...i would also look like a bag of bonest at that weight and my height
Nope and Nope. You are REALLY fat as your Getbig pics prove.  A long way to go to be ripped my friend.  Even at 6`4 you too will be a deal under 200 lbs.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:16:10 PM
i have fully visible abs.

losing 40lbs would make me ripped (at least 4-5%)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 27, 2009, 01:27:28 PM
i have fully visible abs.

losing 40lbs would make me ripped (at least 4-5%)
It wouldn`t. Your pictures prove that much.  Stop deluding yourself.  You have never dieted down.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:29:31 PM
I know but only reason i am gonna lose 60pounds is if i drop my wallet.

Now stop being a fool.  I am lean enough to show all my abs
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 27, 2009, 01:38:28 PM
Goudy did have abbs, his fat just happens to be distributed to his chest (from the pics anyway)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
231lbs

also lighting will not make a fat man look ripped EVER...but poor lighting and no tan. Still have abs

Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 27, 2009, 01:42:15 PM
231lbs

also lighting will not make a fat man look ripped EVER...but poor lighting and no tan. Still have abs



you would look fucking great with 10kg less
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
cheers dude  8)

If i got to you levels of leaness i would def look bigger out of clothes
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
what is you guys definition of shreeded or ripped.what bodyfat %?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on January 27, 2009, 01:53:43 PM
5'9.5"  250lbs.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
ripped i would say 5% full abs and maybe a vein in lower abs. No real fat.

I reckon i was 12% b/f in that pic, but i hold all my fat on belly
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 02:07:29 PM
ripped i would say 5% full abs and maybe a vein in lower abs. No real fat.

I reckon i was 12% b/f in that pic, but i hold all my fat on belly

yea Sounds right.. I was thinking 6-7% is pretty ripped but 5% is probably closer to contest shape.I really don't get these guys that act like having abs at 200-210lbs is impossible.they must have terrible genetics.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Ursus on January 27, 2009, 02:20:39 PM
i agree
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 02:53:43 PM
yea Sounds right.. I was thinking 6-7% is pretty ripped but 5% is probably closer to contest shape.I really don't get these guys that act like having abs at 200-210lbs is impossible.they must have terrible genetics.
no i just think you and  ALOT of other people drastically overestimate how ripped you are and underestimate how shredded 6 percent bodyfat is, like i said at your height and natural you'd be 165 pounds at 5-6 percent bodyfat.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Army of One on January 27, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
no i just think you and  ALOT of other people drastically overestimate how ripped you are and underestimate how shredded 6 percent bodyfat is, like i said at your height and natural you'd be 165 pounds at 5-6 percent bodyfat.

You'd look great @ 135 pounds 6% bodyfat, as long as you hold 100% of your muscle when you diet.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2009, 03:01:28 PM
I was shredded at 195lbs (6'0).. these day's (this morning) I still have abs at 222.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Relentless on January 27, 2009, 03:03:43 PM
It wouldn`t. Your pictures prove that much.  Stop deluding yourself.  You have never dieted down.

Keep on it TA.  These guys have no idea what dieting down is or what they would look like.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 03:08:17 PM
You'd look great @ 135 pounds 6% bodyfat, as long as you hold 100% of your muscle when you diet.
yeah maybe i could steal a picture of a bodybuilder off the internet and claim it's me instead like you did. :D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Army of One on January 27, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
yeah maybe i could steal a picture of a bodybuilder off the internet and claim it's me instead like you did. :D

Nice try stud, it was verified it was me, whereas you may not even be the obese man in your blurry pic  ;)
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Post by: TacoBell on January 27, 2009, 03:09:56 PM
I've had abs at 250 before....whats the problem?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 03:10:11 PM
Nice try stud, it was verified it was me, whereas you may not even be the obese man in your blurry pic  ;)
verified by who? no one ever verified it, it was a picture of someone else and you know it. ::)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Army of One on January 27, 2009, 03:12:33 PM
verified by who? no one ever verified it, it was a picture of someone else and you know it. ::)

You conveniently missed that thread, nice try Sugar  :D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Method101 on January 27, 2009, 03:13:19 PM
231lbs

also lighting will not make a fat man look ripped EVER...but poor lighting and no tan. Still have abs


you probably would need to drop 40 lbs to get contest condition.
your traps and triceps are lacking in relation to your other bodyparts.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 03:14:27 PM
You conveniently missed that thread, nice try Sugar  :D
why not post it here if you're so confident of what you say? post the link to the thread.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2009, 03:22:43 PM
Still training for wheels & guns?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=70755.0
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
no i just think you and  ALOT of other people drastically overestimate how ripped you are and underestimate how shredded 6 percent bodyfat is, like i said at your height and natural you'd be 165 pounds at 5-6 percent bodyfat.

I agree that alot of people can overestimate there progress or level of fitness.I very well may be off on my estimation(but I doubt by much).however to make a blanket statement that basically says if your a certain hight it's not possible to be a certain weight(with abs,shredded whatever)is kinda ignorant.you have to factor in genetics,age,training experience,diet.there's so many factors. I have a hard time understanding what would make a person think ALL 5"10 naturals will be 165lbs at 5-6% BF.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 03:41:32 PM
I agree that alot of people can overestimate there progress or level of fitness.I very well may be off on my estimation(but I doubt by much).however to make a blanket statement that basically says if your a certain hight it's not possible to be a certain weight(with abs,shredded whatever)is kinda ignorant.you have to factor in genetics,age,training experience,diet.there's so many factors. I have a hard time understanding what would make a person think ALL 5"10 naturals will be 165lbs at 5-6% BF.
like i said i just don't think people realize how RIDICULOUSLY shredded 5-6% is.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Miss Demeanor on January 27, 2009, 03:42:38 PM
Nope and Nope. You are REALLY fat as your Getbig pics prove.  A long way to go to be ripped my friend.  Even at 6`4 you too will be a deal under 200 lbs.

Yeah, he's REALLY FAT  ::)

Face it, troll:  you're just insanely jealous he can look like that at 230 pounds.  Be honest here for once and say it's so ...

Or go tell another bulls**t story about deadlifting whatever for 112 times; it's all the same to me, psudeointellect.
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Post by: tweeter on January 27, 2009, 03:50:46 PM
What bodyfat % would you say Goudy is in that pic?
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Post by: johnnynoname on January 27, 2009, 03:59:45 PM
for me, 205














bwahahahahahhahah even i couldn't type that with a straight face
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: leonp1981 on January 27, 2009, 04:11:43 PM
About 140lbs    :'(   :P
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: PJim on January 27, 2009, 05:11:04 PM
If Samir Bannout, on a ton of drugs was 190 lbs shredded at like what 5'8" do y'all really think you're going to be any bigger as a natural?
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Post by: lloydie9 on January 27, 2009, 05:55:23 PM
If Samir Bannout, on a ton of drugs was 190 lbs shredded at like what 5'8" do y'all really think you're going to be any bigger as a natural?
I agree!
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on January 27, 2009, 05:58:09 PM
right now I am 238 fat.

I would see my abs at 220 pretty well I think.

I plan to diet down to 185 this spring to be in spectacular condition
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Post by: Stavios on January 27, 2009, 06:02:32 PM
like i said i just don't think people realize how RIDICULOUSLY shredded 5-6% is.

here is my friend Kevin who competed against me this year. (21 years old)

he was 6,4% there, so people here claiming 5% better post something better than this !
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 06:39:39 PM
how could you possibly come to that conclusion.I started my diet at 266.2lbs.I'm currently 247lbs and mid section is starting to come in nicely.and the last time I had decent abs was 4 years ago and I weighed 190lbs.since then I've put on more muscle and am allot stronger of course.are you claiming all naturals at a height of 5'10 should have abs at the same weight?I hope not because up until now I've always thought of you as rather educated.
Damn, i just asked you how tall you were on another thread you claim to be natural at. So u r  5'10, 247lbs with abs and natural  ??? come on man.. where's squadfather when we need him?  If you showing abs at 247 why come down to 210?   Either you lying about your weight or Natty status. 
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Post by: CalvinH on January 27, 2009, 06:41:27 PM
For me the question is "What year did you last see your abs" :-\
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
Damn, i just asked you how tall you were on another thread you claim to be natural at. So u r  5'10, 247lbs with abs and natural  ??? come on man.. where's squadfather when we need him?  If you showing abs at 247 why come down to 210?   Either you lying about your weight or Natty status. 

never claimed abs at 247.you have excellent reading comprehension.
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Post by: Get Rowdy on January 27, 2009, 06:48:14 PM
Some people's abs just show up better than others, even when they're fatter.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 06:50:09 PM
never claimed abs at 247.you have excellent reading comprehension.
"I started my diet at 266.2lbs.I'm currently 247lbs and mid section is starting to come in nicely.and the last time I had decent abs was 4 years ago and I weighed 190lbs.since then I've put on more musc"

Yes you did.  midsection is the same as abs
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
Nice comprehension of your own statements  ;)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 06:52:01 PM
"I started my diet at 266.2lbs.I'm currently 247lbs and mid section is starting to come in nicely.and the last time I had decent abs was 4 years ago and I weighed 190lbs.since then I've put on more musc"

Yes you did.  midsection is the same as abs

if you say so.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 06:54:51 PM
Damn, i just asked you how tall you were on another thread you claim to be natural at. So u r  5'10, 247lbs with abs and natural  ??? come on man.. where's squadfather when we need him?  If you showing abs at 247 why come down to 210?   Either you lying about your weight or Natty status. 
exactly, i've already been commenting on this guy Rudy, he seems to think he'll be shredded at 210 and 5'10". ::)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: WillGrant on January 27, 2009, 06:55:34 PM
231lbs

also lighting will not make a fat man look ripped EVER...but poor lighting and no tan. Still have abs


drop 20-30 pds and you would look pretty damm good , not 4-5 % tho
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 06:56:37 PM
exactly, i've already been commenting on this guy Rudy, he seems to think he'll be shredded at 210 and 5'10". ::)

actually go back and read I said blurry abs at 210.you threw out the ripped and shredded quotes yourself.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 06:57:48 PM
exactly, i've already been commenting on this guy Rudy, he seems to think he'll be shredded at 210 and 5'10". ::)
;D ;D.. he'll be 210 but not shredded.  what world is he in
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 06:58:14 PM
actually go back and read I said blurry abs at 210.you threw out the ripped and shreeded quotes yourself.
yeah ok MAYBE you'll be able to see the outline of abs at 205 or so, BTW Rudy Richards is an NPC Nationals level competitor so he knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: WillGrant on January 27, 2009, 07:00:23 PM
like i said i just don't think people realize how RIDICULOUSLY shredded 5-6% is.
Agree with Dave.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 07:04:31 PM
yeah ok MAYBE you'll be able to see the outline of abs at 205 or so, BTW Rudy Richards is an NPC Nationals level competitor so he knows what he's talking about.
Damn.. i liked arguing with this clown, don't think he even knew I compete.  been challenging me to show pics and stuff. 
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 27, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
Damn.. i liked arguing with this clown, don't think he even knew I compete.  been challenging me to show pics and stuff. 
hahaha, sorry man didn't mean to blow your cover, but since it's out there Rudy is a BIG dude, L dawg.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Damn.. i liked arguing with this clown, don't think he even knew I compete.  been challenging me to show pics and stuff. 

never asked you to show a pic.and yes I knew who you were.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ManBearPig... on January 27, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
one of the creeps on here has been sending me semi nude photos of himself.  we're the same height, weight and build for the most part.  he went from a "bulked up" 230ish to around 160 now and still has no defined abs.

adonis is gayer than aids most of the time but he's right when he says people are fatter than they really think.  i'd have to get down to 150 probably from 220ish now to see abs.

goudy looks good for a big country bumpkin.  but he has fat to lose, but no one would call him fat, much less REALLY fat.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 07:23:22 PM
never asked you to show a pic.and yes I knew who you were.
what show are you doing and why do you think you need to be 210? You competed before?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 07:27:40 PM
what show are you doing and why do you think you need to be 210? You competed before?

nah I'm just in a dumb ass weight loss challenge my gym is putting on 1000$ to the winner 500-250$ for second and third.I'm just hittin the cardio hard and pretty strict diet.but my overall goal is to be 200-210 by summer.it's just something I got into to jump start me.
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Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
nah I'm just in a dumb ass weight loss challenge my gym is putting on 1000$ to the winner 500-250$ for second and third.I'm just hittin the cardio hard and pretty strict diet.but my overall goal is to be 200-210 by summer.it's just something I got into to jump start me.
gotcha.. I haven't been on here much or in awhile so sorry if I'm askn Q's u already answered. Hope u hitting the weights too? won't help you too much as to net loss but composition wise.  Can't believe these gym do weigth loss contest instead of bodyfat loss.  Lifteing weight would actually hurt you which i think makes the contest itself silly.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 27, 2009, 07:43:13 PM
gotcha.. I haven't been on here much or in awhile so sorry if I'm askn Q's u already answered. Hope u hitting the weights too? won't help you too much as to net loss but composition wise.  Can't believe these gym do weigth loss contest instead of bodyfat loss.  Lifteing weight would actually hurt you which i think makes the contest itself silly.

yep I agree.it's who loses the highest percent of there starting bodyweight.I was going to stay away from the weights totally.but I've been sneaking in about 3 times a week.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 27, 2009, 07:46:18 PM
Damn.. i liked arguing with this clown, don't think he even knew I compete.  been challenging me to show pics and stuff. 

Rudy thought u looked great at the eastern and alot better at the nationals this year. Once u bring up the conditioning a bit you'll be tough to beat, your lines are some of the best in the super heavies.

U shoulda been first at the easterns just do to the fact that max charles is a lying sack of shit!!

And one last thing, have u ever thought about sucking down to heavies??? I think u would be tougher in that class.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
Rudy thought u looked great at the eastern and alot better at the nationals this year. Once u bring up the conditioning a bit you'll be tough to beat, your lines are some of the best in the super heavies.

U shoulda been first at the easterns just do to the fact that max charles is a lying sack of shit!!

And one last thing, have u ever thought about sucking down to heavies??? I think u would be tougher in that class.
thanks for the observations flex.. much appreciated..  don't know Max Charles but if that's the guy who won, he deserved it that night, he was tight, that was funny though lol.

It's been suggested I drop down but I think my frame is too big.  I was smaller at nats than in the past, I wasnt' able to train until 10wks before and wasn't able to put all my size back on.    Weigth wise, In 05 & 06 when i took 3rd and 4th respectively I was 252 and 256. I needed to be 5-10lbs tighter at that level but still alot of muscles to lose to get to heavy.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: INSOMNIA on January 27, 2009, 10:50:49 PM
yeah ok MAYBE you'll be able to see the outline of abs at 205 or so, BTW Rudy Richards is an NPC Nationals level competitor so he knows what he's talking about.

 ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 27, 2009, 10:55:42 PM
;D
whats so funny? Quaker knows what he speaks  8) you want some a this too  ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: INSOMNIA on January 27, 2009, 11:07:08 PM
whats so funny? Quaker knows what he speaks  8) you want some a this too  ;D

shuddup loser.  ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 28, 2009, 07:52:30 AM
thanks for the observations flex.. much appreciated..  don't know Max Charles but if that's the guy who won, he deserved it that night, he was tight, that was funny though lol.

It's been suggested I drop down but I think my frame is too big.  I was smaller at nats than in the past, I wasnt' able to train until 10wks before and wasn't able to put all my size back on.    Weigth wise, In 05 & 06 when i took 3rd and 4th respectively I was 252 and 256. I needed to be 5-10lbs tighter at that level but still alot of muscles to lose to get to heavy.

wow didnt know u were 250's thought more like 240, ur a big boy lol.

well i was just saying that because u have such awesome shape and u have so much muscle if u could suck down a weight class u would be hard to beat, kind of like what curtis bryant did this year, he was always a smaller heavy and would do well but never win on a national level stage, then he sucked down a weight class and dominated! I was thinkin u could do something similar, if u just said fuck it! i dont care im going to get shredded to the fuckin bone, u would look sick as fuck as a heavy!

but thats just my 2cents! keep doin what ur doing u have a good physique!

and yea max charles is the guy that beat u! he did an interview on MD that says he only ate one meal a day training for the easterns and he can preacher curl 370lbs......oh yea he said he was 270lbs onstage too  ::)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 07:57:55 AM
thanks for the observations flex.. much appreciated..  don't know Max Charles but if that's the guy who won, he deserved it that night, he was tight, that was funny though lol.

It's been suggested I drop down but I think my frame is too big.  I was smaller at nats than in the past, I wasnt' able to train until 10wks before and wasn't able to put all my size back on.    Weigth wise, In 05 & 06 when i took 3rd and 4th respectively I was 252 and 256. I needed to be 5-10lbs tighter at that level but still alot of muscles to lose to get to heavy.

I agree that your frame is too big to be a heavy.

but if you drop down to about 240, you are only a few months away from a procard at the USA in my opinion !

good luck  8)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 28, 2009, 08:00:41 AM
I agree that your frame is too big to be a heavy.

but if you drop down to about 240, you are only a few months away from a procard at the USA in my opinion !

good luck  8)

true, i didnt know he was that big! but if he forgets about how much he weighs and just comes in shredded and diced. he'll definetely get his pro card, he has some of the best shape in whole super heavy class. Just needs to come in tighter.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Devon97 on January 28, 2009, 08:02:23 AM
one of the creeps on here has been sending me semi nude photos of himself.  we're the same height, weight and build for the most part.  he went from a "bulked up" 230ish to around 160 now and still has no defined abs.

adonis is gayer than aids most of the time but he's right when he says people are fatter than they really think.  i'd have to get down to 150 probably from 220ish now to see abs.

goudy looks good for a big country bumpkin.  but he has fat to lose, but no one would call him fat, much less REALLY fat.

 Power Rod for someone to go from 230 down to 160 and still not have any abs then it would be hard for me to believe that person actually lifts weights.

He probably starved himself and got on the tic-tack and ciggeratte diet lol
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: INSOMNIA on January 28, 2009, 10:23:24 AM
I agree that your frame is too big to be a heavy.

but if you drop down to about 240, you are only a few months away from a procard at the USA in my opinion !

good luck  8)

Rudy needs to be in the at least 255-260lb + range to fill out his height and frame properly. When he nails his condition at that weight like he did at the 2006 North Americans hes the best onstage. He couldve been a 'tad' drier, but nobodys conditioning was beating him that day. (he shoulda won that show!!!!)  thats BBing for ya. >:(

Needs to be heavier, not lighter. He looks way too narrow in the 240 or less range... & just ends up looking like one of the smaller guys in the SH class. The conditioning isnt better. Trust me, i know...I'm his trainer   8) ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: no one on January 28, 2009, 10:49:20 AM

 I was thinkin u could do something similar, if u just said fuck it! i dont care im going to get shredded to the fuckin bone, u would look sick as fuck as a heavy!



this is why you should stop thinking.

nothing like dropping 25 pounds of contest weight to make a weight class.

do you have any clue as to what you are talking about?

just curious.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
here's me weighing 247 on my 40th birthday. some abs.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on January 28, 2009, 11:09:49 AM
i'd probably be around 145 at 5'9 shredded  :D
If I trained my legs I would probably weigh alot heavier
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 28, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
here's me weighing 247 on my 40th birthday. some abs.

great way to throw in some random pics
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
great way to throw in some random pics


beats claiming something rediculous and not proving it. people get a hard time for posting pics and a hard time for not posting pics. that makes sense. ::)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on January 28, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
Rudy needs to be in the at least 255-260lb + range to fill out his height and frame properly. When he nails his condition at that weight like he did at the 2006 North Americans hes the best onstage. He couldve been a 'tad' drier, but nobodys conditioning was beating him that day anyway. (he shoulda won that show!!!!)  thats BBing for ya. >:(

Needs to be heavier, not lighter. He looks way too narrow in the 240 or less range... & just ends up looking like one of the smaller guys in the SH class. The conditioning isnt better. Trust me, i know...I'm his trainer   8) ;D

I trust you !  ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 28, 2009, 12:26:44 PM
beats claiming something rediculous and not proving it. people get a hard time for posting pics and a hard time for not posting pics. that makes sense. ::)

just joking my niggah
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2009, 12:29:31 PM
just joking my niggah

it's all good. any chance this old fart has to brag about the good old days!
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 28, 2009, 12:47:15 PM
it's all good. any chance this old fart has to brag about the good old days!

yeah you are pretty veiny,are kids scared of you?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 28, 2009, 12:48:47 PM
it's all good. any chance this old fart has to brag about the good old days!
you've got every right to brag and post pics Rick, you looked phenomenal.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2009, 01:26:30 PM
yeah you are pretty veiny,are kids scared of you?

had some funny situations where kids asked about my veins, thinking they wanted to look like that. after a long explanation about training and nutrition they pause and ask  "how do you get rid of them?"
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: ironneck on January 28, 2009, 01:44:08 PM
had some funny situations where kids asked about my veins, thinking they wanted to look like that. after a long explanation about training and nutrition they pause and ask  "how do you get rid of them?"

haha funny story my friend
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: The ChemistV2 on January 28, 2009, 01:55:32 PM
here's me weighing 247 on my 40th birthday. some abs.
Look amazing. Hard as a rock.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: BIG_STI on January 28, 2009, 02:11:33 PM
225lbs or so
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Meso_z on January 28, 2009, 02:27:03 PM
i guess we have quite a lot "abzilla's" here.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: dutchmanart on January 28, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
TA telling it like it is once again.

I have to concur.

some people are a bit in denial when it comes to themselfs.  Much like those god awful singers who think they are the next Mariah Carey On American Idol.

I bet if we were to see photos, we could see that the guy still is FAT with no abs much like TA suggests.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 29, 2009, 07:31:49 AM
wow didnt know u were 250's thought more like 240, ur a big boy lol.

well i was just saying that because u have such awesome shape and u have so much muscle if u could suck down a weight class u would be hard to beat, kind of like what curtis bryant did this year, he was always a smaller heavy and would do well but never win on a national level stage, then he sucked down a weight class and dominated! I was thinkin u could do something similar, if u just said fuck it! i dont care im going to get shredded to the fuckin bone, u would look sick as fuck as a heavy!

but thats just my 2cents! keep doin what ur doing u have a good physique!

and yea max charles is the guy that beat u! he did an interview on MD that says he only ate one meal a day training for the easterns and he can preacher curl 370lbs......oh yea he said he was 270lbs onstage too  ::)
I Think Curtis was in the very low 200's and had less than 10 lbs to lose.   I've looked my best in the 250's but would be shredded in the mid 240s, still 20lbs over the limit..  I'll post a pic of me in the 250's to show you what i mean (once i figure out how, lol).  I'm not worried about weight but know my frame have to be filled out and be diced.  I don't think ppl realize how much muscles I carry until they see me in person, they mainly notice my shape when i'm onstage. 
Max Charles said WHAT?  We're around the same height and I had atleast 15lbs on him, that'd  put him in the mid 230's. I wonder if he actually said that or if that's what was printed to make it sounds more impressive?  Preacher curl 370lbs  ??? That's 8 x 45lb plates, it doesn't hold that much.  Most bbers can't bench 370lbs.  Maybe he's training w myesone (sorry M, u a cool dude but I hadda go there, the funniest thing I ever read on getbig)

Almost forgot..One meal a day and compete diced at 270  ??? statements like this got Lockett alot of pub, maybe he's trying to go the same route
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: QuakerOats on January 29, 2009, 07:32:40 AM
I Think Curtis was in the very low 200's and had less than 10 lbs to lose.   I've looked my best in the 250's but would be shredded in the mid 240s, still 20lbs over the limit..  I'll post a pic of me in the 250's to show you what i mean (once i figure out how, lol).  I'm not worried about weight but know my frame have to be filled out and be diced.  I don't think ppl realize how much muscles I carry until they see me in person, they mainly notice my shape when i'm onstage. 
Max Charles said WHAT?  We're around the same height and I had atleast 15lbs on him, that'd  put him in the mid 230's. I wonder if he actually said that or if that's what was printed to make it sounds more impressive?  Preacher curl 370lbs  ??? That's 8 x 45lb plates, it doesn't hold that much.  Most bbers can't bench 370lbs.  Maybe he's training w myesone (sorry M, u a cool dude but I hadda go there, the funniest thing I ever read on getbig)

Almost forgot..One meal a day and compete diced at 270  ??? statements like this got Lockett alot of pub, maybe he's trying to go the same route
;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 29, 2009, 07:43:17 AM
I trust you !  ;D
Thanks Stavios.  Say your pics from awhile back, looking good.  what shows are you doing this yr?

Insomnia is very, very knowledgeable (as well as strong and intense in the gym).  I know cause I taught her everything she knows lol. She's not my trainer (don't have one) but she helped me out alot esp with training tips. Kinda like my Charles Glass
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: rudylrichards on January 29, 2009, 07:48:21 AM
yep I agree.it's who loses the highest percent of there starting bodyweight.I was going to stay away from the weights totally.but I've been sneaking in about 3 times a week.
Good luck btw.

"Hazbin" looking good. not sure if that's a play on words but you still are
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: flexingtonsteele on January 29, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
I Think Curtis was in the very low 200's and had less than 10 lbs to lose.   I've looked my best in the 250's but would be shredded in the mid 240s, still 20lbs over the limit..  I'll post a pic of me in the 250's to show you what i mean (once i figure out how, lol).  I'm not worried about weight but know my frame have to be filled out and be diced.  I don't think ppl realize how much muscles I carry until they see me in person, they mainly notice my shape when i'm onstage. 
Max Charles said WHAT?  We're around the same height and I had atleast 15lbs on him, that'd  put him in the mid 230's. I wonder if he actually said that or if that's what was printed to make it sounds more impressive?  Preacher curl 370lbs  ??? That's 8 x 45lb plates, it doesn't hold that much.  Most bbers can't bench 370lbs.  Maybe he's training w myesone (sorry M, u a cool dude but I hadda go there, the funniest thing I ever read on getbig)

Almost forgot..One meal a day and compete diced at 270  ??? statements like this got Lockett alot of pub, maybe he's trying to go the same route

no bro thats what he said, its on an "in the trenches" video on MD.

looked at ur pics over at MD, and i think ur right, a bit more size and completed shredded and u have yourself a pro card. but like u said, u have a huge frame bro, because u have lots of room to fill out in even in the 240's range, and ur right no way u can drop down. good luck in filling out that frame bro.

how are things coming along for the usa's this year?? when does the diet start?
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: big L dawg on January 29, 2009, 10:34:57 AM
Good luck btw.

"Hazbin" looking good. not sure if that's a play on words but you still are

thanks man.kick some ass at the USA's.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: California Muscle on February 21, 2009, 01:36:12 PM
just joking my niggah

 ::)

Gotta laugh at this bitch twink trying to case on hazbin.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: TommyBoy on February 21, 2009, 03:13:44 PM
I'll be somewere between 200-210lbs by the time I diet down enough to have abs.probably blurry at 210 chiseled by 200.I think thats a decent bodyweight for a natural.but some tuff guy thinks otherwise.was just curious as to what others think.BTW I'm 5'10.

If you have abs at that BW and height then you are a big dude. Especially natural. I sit around 184 cut up with abs/striations at the same height so if you can manage that then you're a natural beast.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: TommyBoy on February 21, 2009, 03:19:05 PM
If you have abs at that BW and height then you are a big dude. Especially natural. I sit around 184 cut up with abs/striations at the same height so if you can manage that (your goal BW) then you're a natural beast.
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 03:19:49 PM
180 - 190 I'm guessing
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2009, 04:05:40 PM
right now I am 238 fat.

I would see my abs at 220 pretty well I think.

I plan to diet down to 185 this spring to be in spectacular condition

haha I was dead on, I am down to 220 as of yesterday and I see my abs pretty clearly
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
haha I was dead on, I am down to 220 as of yesterday and I see my abs pretty clearly

pics or it didn't happen
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2009, 08:34:44 PM
pics or it didn't happen

I'll post pics at 185 lbs  :D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Camel Jockey on February 21, 2009, 08:39:14 PM
here's me weighing 247 on my 40th birthday. some abs.

Incredible   :o
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 08:46:04 PM
I'll post pics at 185 lbs  :D

If you have abs at 220 you might look like this at 185.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=261826.0;attach=302802;image)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2009, 08:47:43 PM
If you have abs at 220 you might look like this at 185.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=261826.0;attach=302802;image)

dont think so !

I weighed 190-192 last year onstage and I could have been much leaner.
if I don't have to be 185, than good ! but I'll go by the mirror  8)
this year, it is "shredded or die"  :D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
dont think so !

I weighed 190-192 last year onstage and I could have been much leaner.
if I don't have to be 185, than good ! but I'll go by the mirror  8)
this year, it is "shredded or die"  :D

lol I'm joking.

I must be a wimp though.  No way I'd have abs at 220.  ;D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2009, 08:51:11 PM
lol I'm joking.

I must be a wimp though.  No way I'd have abs at 220.  ;D

well it's all about where you hold your fat.
I may see my abs but still have a fuck load of lower back fat
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 08:53:20 PM
well it's all about where you hold your fat.
I may see my abs but still have a fuck load of lower back fat

I mainly hold fat in my ass and thighs.

I'm built like a black girl.  :(
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Stavios on February 21, 2009, 08:55:29 PM
I mainly hold fat in my ass and thighs.

I'm built like a black girl.  :(

PM my bro Candizzle ! He loves black girls !  :D
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 21, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
PM my bro Candizzle ! He loves black girls !  :D

HAHA

 :-X
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: dyslexic on February 21, 2009, 09:06:30 PM
 8) 8) 8) 8)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/yeahcoolio.jpg)
Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: tbombz on February 21, 2009, 09:20:43 PM
well it's all about where you hold your fat.
I may see my abs but still have a fuck load of lower back fat
I mainly hold fat in my ass and thighs.

I'm built like a black girl.  :(
PM my bro Candizzle ! He loves black girls !  :D



hahahahahaha



stav is right, it depends where you hold your fat. my fat is all in my lower abs and love handle region. so my abs dont come in till the rest of me is completely shredded.


Title: Re: at what bodyweight do you/or would you have visable abs?
Post by: hazbin on February 22, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
8) 8) 8) 8)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/yeahcoolio.jpg)

why would you do that to my photo?