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Title: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 30, 2009, 04:15:50 PM
Some interesting and surprising things that you would never expect can actually be BAD for bodybuilding and can lower testosterone levels...


Music Generally ANY TYPE of music can lower testosterone levels. So listening to music in the gym might actually be BAD.
http://johnhawks.net:84/node/765
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11458865


Sex Believe it or not, Sex can actually LOWER overall testosterone in the body. In general after an orgasm, Testosterone levels plummet to lower levels. People who abstain from sexual intercourse actually have higher testosterone levels than more sexually active people.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1elxf861chc5p9jv/


Alcohol Copious Alcohol use can lower testosterone levels drastically.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0847/is_n2_v15/ai_12490153


High Marijuana
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6316036


Tobacco



Lack of sleep


Stress free life Studies show that short term stress can temporary increase testosterone levels.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WG0-45F4M1V-29&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=041660786b5a553f67f564a1a1bb2cd1
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on January 30, 2009, 04:17:25 PM
Shit ... I'm fucked ! I'm into all those things !
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: emn1964 on January 30, 2009, 04:18:56 PM
something tells me that "liberalisimo" has little to no testosterone
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:20:18 PM
I've never really enjoyed music while working out.  It keeps me unfocused.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eisenherz on January 30, 2009, 04:21:13 PM
i call bs on the "people who abstain from sex have higher test" sure i agree your test goes below that what it was before orgasm, but give it a few hours or a day and it will be much higher than before orgasm..
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 30, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
Out of curiosity, what about cocaine??
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: MarvinEderFan on January 30, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
Rock/hard music can boost testosterone.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:25:27 PM
Is it true that peanuts and peanut oil tend to raise test levels?
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: emn1964 on January 30, 2009, 04:28:09 PM
Is it true that peanuts and peanut oil tend to raise test levels?

no, but it will give you salmonella
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: MarvinEderFan on January 30, 2009, 04:30:30 PM
Is it true that peanuts and peanut oil tend to raise test levels?

More like the opposite. Many peanuts contain phytoestrogens.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:31:03 PM
salmonella

I'm immune to Salmonella, E-Coli, and Mad Cow Disease
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:31:37 PM
More like the opposite. Many peanuts contain phytoestrogens.

Wow, I had a "nutrition guru" tell me the opposite.  >:(
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 30, 2009, 04:32:11 PM
Rock/hard music can boost testosterone.


ALL MUSIC LOWERS TESTOSTERONE.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: emn1964 on January 30, 2009, 04:32:20 PM
I'm immune to Salmonella, E-Coli, and Mad Cow Disease

so you can actually eat fecal matter and it won't make you sick?  weird.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:34:57 PM
so you can actually eat fecal matter and it won't make you sick?  weird.

Yeah

I'm also immune to West Nile Virus
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: emn1964 on January 30, 2009, 04:36:47 PM
Yeah

I'm also immune to West Nile Virus

you must be super human
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on January 30, 2009, 04:44:04 PM
you must be super human

nope, just a Getbigger, a Gitbigger who goes from town to town helping out, hoping I touched just one life.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Camel Jockey on January 30, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
I doubt those things lower test by a huge percentage.

Plus, they are just unreasonable. If you are fucking some decent pussy then that's one of the best stress relieving and fulfilling things in the world and it isn't worth giving up because some dude one a website told you so. Besides, I don't mind a .000072987% drop in test levels for getting my dick sucked.  ::)
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: gooer on January 30, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
it's a good thing i inject a shit load of test into my body on a weekly basis because i'm not giving up any of those things. how much exactly does music lower your test levels? i'm sure it's negligible..
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 30, 2009, 05:21:37 PM
I doubt those things lower test by a huge percentage.

Plus, they are just unreasonable. If you are fucking some decent pussy then that's one of the best stress relieving and fulfilling things in the world and it isn't worth giving up because some dude one a website told you so. Besides, I don't mind a .000072987% drop in test levels for getting my dick sucked.  ::)


First of all...The drop is a more significant than you say.


Second of all...You can't give something up that you don't have!
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 30, 2009, 05:23:55 PM
it's a good thing i inject a shit load of test into my body on a weekly basis because i'm not giving up any of those things. how much exactly does music lower your test levels? i'm sure it's negligible..


How healthy is that?
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: burn2live on January 30, 2009, 06:09:09 PM
Some interesting and surprising things that you would never expect can actually be BAD for bodybuilding and can lower testosterone levels...


Music Generally ANY TYPE of music can lower testosterone levels. So listening to music in the gym might actually be BAD.
http://johnhawks.net:84/node/765
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11458865


Sex Believe it or not, Sex can actually LOWER overall testosterone in the body. In general after an orgasm, Testosterone levels plummet to lower levels. People who abstain from sexual intercourse actually have higher testosterone levels than more sexually active people.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1elxf861chc5p9jv/


Alcohol Copious Alcohol use can lower testosterone levels drastically.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0847/is_n2_v15/ai_12490153


High Marijuana
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6316036


Tobacco



Lack of sleep


Stress free life Studies show that short term stress can temporary increase testosterone levels.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WG0-45F4M1V-29&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=041660786b5a553f67f564a1a1bb2cd1

I wouldn't be so sure about the short term stress and testosterone, seeing as the study there was conducted on fowls:

"Short-Term Stress Increases Testosterone Secretion from Testes in Male Domestic Fowl"

Also, it's known that stress elevates catabolic hormones such as cortisol in order to increase gluconeogenesis to fuel the fight or flight response. Test is certainly not a catabolic hormone
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: tommywishbone on January 30, 2009, 06:14:51 PM
Crack cocaine, Coors Light, and Hookers are not on the list... I'm OK.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: dr.chimps on January 30, 2009, 06:23:47 PM
nope, just a Getbigger, a Gitbigger who goes from town to town helping out, hoping I touched just one life.

Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: tommywishbone on January 30, 2009, 06:26:24 PM
Excellent Grasshopper.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Tapeworm on January 30, 2009, 07:00:32 PM
Bruce Lee shoulda kicked that guys ass.


Out of curiosity, what about cocaine??

I'd guess it would lower prolactin through increased dopamine production, but I don't think it inhibits dopamine reuptake, meaning production will inevitably wane and the user will crash.  It might have a marginal effect of T levels, but only if excessive prolactin was the inhibiting factor and then only for a short time until the body crashes, although any small rise in T would probably be more than offset by amphetamine catabolism and other detriments to general health.  (Yes, I know you were probably joking.)


Guys doing all this shit, wearing tin foil hats and rubbing tea leaves on their elbows, because some study says it will up test levels...  just live a normal, healthy lifestyle, eat well, workout regularly.  Anything that harms your general health but claims to raise T levels is bullshit.  If your test level is unacceptably low, go see an hrt doc.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on January 30, 2009, 07:02:42 PM
So you're saying... Cocaine is basically good for me. Great!
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Tapeworm on January 30, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
Easy there, Hoover.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Viking11 on January 30, 2009, 08:08:50 PM
Hannah Montana lowers testosterone. Top 40 music in general. TV commercials. Grocery stores. Malls.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Cavalier22 on January 30, 2009, 08:24:39 PM
what about after committing an act of violence
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Nordic Beast on January 30, 2009, 09:30:01 PM
nothing would spike your stress and cortisol levels like being a virgin who doesnt listen to music, drink or even masturbate :-\



you're a retard liberalismo, and obviously one uptight boring dude
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: webcake on January 30, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
nothing would spike your stress and cortisol levels like being a virgin who doesnt listen to music, drink or even masturbate :-\



you're a retard liberalismo, and obviously one uptight boring dude

Are you an Aussie, NB?

Just wondering, because you have chopper as your avatar..... 8)

Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Nordic Beast on January 31, 2009, 10:10:34 AM
Are you an Aussie, NB?

Just wondering, because you have chopper as your avatar..... 8)


no

but there is always a time for a little bit of teh chop chop 8)
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 31, 2009, 08:00:45 PM


Guys doing all this shit, wearing tin foil hats and rubbing tea leaves on their elbows, because some study says it will up test levels...  just live a normal, healthy lifestyle, eat well, workout regularly.  Anything that harms your general health but claims to raise T levels is bullshit.  If your test level is unacceptably low, go see an hrt doc.


Living a normal lifestyle is a surefire way to never get big.

Bodybuilders DO NOT LIVE NORMAL LIFESTYLES. Sacrifices must be made.

The size you gain is related to the amount you sacrifice.

This is true of anything in life. The more you sacrifice of one thing, the more you gain in another thing.

If you choose to do things that hurt bodybuilding progress only because they provide cheap thrills, you will always be less than your best.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on January 31, 2009, 08:04:59 PM
nothing would spike your stress and cortisol levels like being a virgin who doesnt listen to music, drink or even masturbate :-\



you're a retard liberalismo, and obviously one uptight boring dude

I don't follow these things strictly myself.

I listen to music every now and then.

I drink beer every now and then.

But I haven't been sexually active for quite some time now.


I have not weigh myself recently, but I am around 155-165 (maybe 72kg) pound and I used to be at least 6'1", not sure how tall I am now though. Probably 6'0.5 - 6'1" (184-186 cm).
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Tapeworm on January 31, 2009, 08:43:24 PM

Living a normal lifestyle is a surefire way to never get big.

Bodybuilders DO NOT LIVE NORMAL LIFESTYLES. Sacrifices must be made.

The size you gain is related to the amount you sacrifice.

This is true of anything in life. The more you sacrifice of one thing, the more you gain in another thing.

If you choose to do things that hurt bodybuilding progress only because they provide cheap thrills, you will always be less than your best.

Balance lesson not just kara-te, Danielsan.  Whole life need balance.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on February 01, 2009, 05:32:59 PM
Balance lesson not just kara-te, Danielsan.  Whole life need balance.



That's a mythology.


Life isn't about total balance. There needs to be imbalances in certain places. An example would be hate. You don't want to balance love and hate equally.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: vvv on February 02, 2009, 01:26:32 AM

ALL MUSIC LOWERS TESTOSTERONE.

"Subjects were split into even groups and played different kinds of music including their own choice of favorite, Gregorian chant, pop music, jazz, classical, and a final group was exposed to continuous silence."

Where the fuck you see hard rock or metal here? All this genres they used for testing relax people, only hard rock/metal makes people feel anger. Have you ever seen a study which proves classical, jazz etc lowers blood pressure but heavy metal raises it up? It's the same with test levels. It doesn't take a genius to understand such a simple thing, you should know that without idiotic studies.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: fearANDloathing on February 02, 2009, 04:58:58 AM
Some interesting and surprising things that you would never expect can actually be BAD for bodybuilding and can lower testosterone levels...


Music Generally ANY TYPE of music can lower testosterone levels. So listening to music in the gym might actually be BAD.
http://johnhawks.net:84/node/765
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11458865


Sex Believe it or not, Sex can actually LOWER overall testosterone in the body. In general after an orgasm, Testosterone levels plummet to lower levels. People who abstain from sexual intercourse actually have higher testosterone levels than more sexually active people.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1elxf861chc5p9jv/


Alcohol Copious Alcohol use can lower testosterone levels drastically.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0847/is_n2_v15/ai_12490153


High Marijuana
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6316036


Tobacco



Lack of sleep


Stress free life Studies show that short term stress can temporary increase testosterone levels.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WG0-45F4M1V-29&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=041660786b5a553f67f564a1a1bb2cd1
MUSIC? I call bullshit on that one! Music helps improve many peoples workouts and harder workouts(though not immediately) can result in INCREASED Testosterone
...and don't tell that there aren't some songs that get you in the mood or aren't considered mood music.  ;)
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: Tapeworm on February 02, 2009, 05:03:25 AM
"Can't get enough of your love.................... ........................ ...babe."
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on February 02, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
"Subjects were split into even groups and played different kinds of music including their own choice of favorite, Gregorian chant, pop music, jazz, classical, and a final group was exposed to continuous silence."

Where the fuck you see hard rock or metal here? All this genres they used for testing relax people, only hard rock/metal makes people feel anger. Have you ever seen a study which proves classical, jazz etc lowers blood pressure but heavy metal raises it up? It's the same with test levels. It doesn't take a genius to understand such a simple thing, you should know that without idiotic studies.

The point was that all of the forms of music profiled decreased testosterone.

Generally it's not music in itself that decreases testosterone, it's music that is enjoyed. For instance Rock music may decrease testosterone in someone who enjoys it but increase it in someone who hates it. This is an issue of stress reduction or increase.


One study on this includes:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200520/000020052005A0716125.php

The measurement point was as follows: 1) Base (60 minutes before sitimuli): point -60; 2) before stimuli: point 0; 3) after stimuli: point +30; 4) 30 minutes after stimuli: point +60; and 5) 90 minutes after stimuli: point +120. In the male subjects, when listening to their favorite music, testosterone (T) decreased point 0 to point +30. When listening to music which they dislike, and under the control condition, T increased, while T decreased point +30 to point +60 in all three conditions. In the female subjects, T increased on all conditions immediately after beginning the stimuli, and it decreased from point +30 to point +60.
Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: liberalismo on February 02, 2009, 01:30:53 PM
MUSIC? I call bullshit on that one! Music helps improve many peoples workouts and harder workouts(though not immediately) can result in INCREASED Testosterone
...and don't tell that there aren't some songs that get you in the mood or aren't considered mood music.  ;)



It's all true.


But if you listen to music that you absolutely hate, it will cause temporary stress and INCREASE testosterone.

So....

Title: Re: Surprising things LOWER Testosterone
Post by: chainsaw on February 02, 2009, 01:31:21 PM
Opiates like vicodin AND OXY will as well.