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Good choice.
Republicans Pick Steele as Next Party Chairman
Michael Steele, the former Maryland lieutenant governor, wins the chairmanship after six rounds of voting in which five candidates were competing.
FOXNews.com
Friday, January 30, 2009
The Republican National Committee has picked Michael Steele, a black man from a traditionally Democratic state, to be the new face of the party as the GOP forges a revival following a second straight electoral drubbing.
Steele, a former Maryland lieutenant governor, won the chairmanship Friday after six rounds of voting in which five candidates were competing. He becomes the first black chairman of the Republican Party just days after President Obama became the nation's first black president.
Steele delivered a rousing speech after winning the race, pledging to re-establish the Republican presence in the northeast and win elections in regions across the country.
"It's time for something completely different, and we're gonna bring it to them," he said. "Get ready, baby. It's time to turn it on."
Steele said he would work to build the party to an unprecedented level and warned: "For those of you who wish to obstruct, get ready to get knocked down."
Outgoing Chairman Mike Duncan dropped his bid for a second term after the third round of voting. South Carolina GOP Chairman Katon Dawson had emerged as Steele's top challenger, but Steele won with 91 votes to Dawson's 77.
Voting lasted for hours because no candidate was able to rack up the majority of votes necessary. A candidate needs 85 of 168 votes to win, which Steele eventually attained.
Ken Blackwell, Ohio's former secretary of state, and Saul Anuzis, Michigan GOP chairman, dropped their bids before the final round of voting.
Steele ran unsuccessfully for Senate in Maryland in 2006, and later headed up GOPAC, the Republican recruiting arm. He is a frequent media commentator, on FOX News and other outlets, and has touted that experience as one of his credentials. In a recent interview with FOXNews.com, he also said his political upbringing in a liberal stronghold of Maryland had toughened him.
The results in the early rounds Friday signaled that many Republicans were eager for new leadership, after suffering double-digit losses in congressional elections for the second time in a row in November and losing the White House. Steele lagged Duncan by just six votes in the first round Friday, but the second round had them tied and Steele led Duncan 51-to-44 votes in the third round, after which Duncan dropped out.
"Obviously the winds of change are blowing," Duncan said as he withdrew from the race and got a standing ovation. The Kentucky Republican thanked former President George W. Bush and said of his two-year tenure: "It truly has been the highlight of my life."
Another candidate, former Tennessee GOP Chairman Chip Saltsman, dropped out of the race on Thursday with little explanation, saying only in a letter to RNC members: "I have decided to withdraw my candidacy."
Saltsman, who ran former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's failed presidential campaign last year, was considered a long-shot candidate who several Republican officials said likely wouldn't have had enough support even to be formally nominated had he continued his bid.
It faltered in December after he drew controversy for mailing a 41-track CD to committee members that included a song titled "Barack the Magic Negro" by conservative comedian Paul Shanklin and sung to the music of "Puff, the Magic Dragon."
Steele had criticized Saltsman for the mailing.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/30/republicans-pick-new-party-chief/
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All I can say is ROFL!
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All I can say is ROFL!
He is too milquetoast for my liking.
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........... ::)
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hahahahahaha
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I don't know if they are trying to fight "Black with Black", but trust me, M. Steele is NO One's dummy. You may just be looking at a future President right there.
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Steele is an idiot douchbag. Beachbum likes him, so I proved my point.
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I don't know if they are trying to fight "Black with Black", but trust me, M. Steele is NO One's dummy. You may just be looking at a future President right there.
Now THAT would be a great choice.
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Steele is an idiot douchbag. Beachbum likes him, so I proved my point.
Why? Because you love to pay taxes out the ass, put National security at risk? you love to be forced to give your money away? (I could go on forever)
Que the lib meatheads on here to try to dig up dirt on Steel and take it out of context like the lib media.
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Steele is an idiot douchbag. Beachbum likes him, so I proved my point.
Trust me he's no idiot, yeah so his sister married Mike Tyson. But when Erhlich picked Steele he was making a shrewd move. So much so that Dems voted for Erhlich and Steele, instead of Martin O'malley (who was entrenched in a scandal involving a Baltimore News reporter who was almost killed for alledgedly being preggers with O'malley's Child---he's in Baltimore, she's in New York, and was almost hit by a Lincoln Town Car-witha reinforced bumper).
Steele as Md Lt. Governor was VERY active in Policy, unlike the current black Lt. Gov. who was used as ploy to garner black votes.
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Why? Because you love to pay taxes out the ass, put National security at risk? you love to be forced to give your money away? (I could go on forever)
Que the lib meatheads on here to try to dig up dirt on Steel and take it out of context like the lib media.
Ok Coach, you convinced me. He's swell.
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Steele is an idiot douchbag. Beachbum likes him, so I proved my point.
O Rly? And what makes him an "idiot douchbag"?
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O Rly? And what makes him an "idiot douchbag"?
I don't think he's any different than any of the other Republican that helped put the party in the situation it's in now. He's a NEO CON shill.
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I don't think he's any different than any of the other Republican that helped put the party in the situation it's in now. He's a NEO CON shill.
And your opinion is based on what?
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steele is clean as a whistle, record-wise. He'll win senate seat in 2010 without blinking.
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steele is clean as a whistle, record-wise. He'll win senate seat in 2010 without blinking.
Yep, and he's a moderate.
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The GOP needs to stop thinking it can pander to racial groups to get votes. That is what the RATS do.
The GOP needs to rename itself the 1776 party or freedom party and get back to small govt, small taxes, and freedom.
Its plainly obvious that the RATS only offer shackles and chains at this point and the GOP will do not good offering slavery-light.
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333...I had to look that damn word up! Nice.
I really like to Steele. He has more of a laid back approach, which I like, but I understand your criticizm.
I listen Steele on Friday mornings on the radio. He is excellent. Extremely positive person and very humble, smart and rational. He is NOT a Rush Limbaugh so will be attractive to more moderates like myself. He is a conservative principled guy but not the typical GOP person we've seen in the past. Steele is an excellent speaker and can communicate well, unlike many in the party.
Overall, excellent choice. I hope this man goes far. Love his positive and non-militaristic partisan attitude. We have too much shouting in politics. Steele is will help the party. I hate pandering too but hope he will attract more blacks to the party. Principles are color blind and republicans need to get back to the defining principles of limited government and protecting personal freedoms (ie Ron Paul). Enough pandering to the far right.
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333...I had to look that damn word up! Nice.
I really like to Steele. He has more of a laid back approach, which I like, but I understand your criticizm.
I listen Steele on Friday mornings on the radio. He is excellent. Extremely positive person and very humble, smart and rational. He is NOT a Rush Limbaugh so will be attractive to more moderates like myself. He is a conservative principled guy but not the typical GOP person we've seen in the past. Steele is an excellent speaker and can communicate well, unlike many in the party.
Overall, excellent choice. I hope this man goes far. Love his positive and non-militaristic partisan attitude. We have too much shouting in politics. Steele is will help the party. I hate pandering too but hope he will attract more blacks to the party. Principles are color blind and republicans need to get back to the defining principles of limited government and protecting personal freedoms (ie Ron Paul). Enough pandering to the far right.
If any of you guys watched all the debates during the elections, you would know which positions he endorses and which ones he doesnt through his commentary. You want more years of a Bush type presidency or a McCain in the White House, than go for it, he had no porblems endorsing those types of positions during that time. If he's talking another story now, than he isnt anything but a politican changing his stripes to spots to win votes.
This is like Palin all over again. Trust me he aint Ron PAul, seeing as he got a good laugh outta Ron with a Hannity mockfest a while back but then tried to turn it around and win support by giving props to Ron. Bullshitter.
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bwahahahahahahahaaaaa
GOP are such hypocrites. The nation elects a black man and it is all because of the "race vote". ::) (loser ass excuse)
The RNC elects a black man and it is about "best qualified."
RNC seems to be having their own YES WE CAN! moment. bunch of tards. Having to copy the Dems at every corner.
Steele is all about Steele. He puppets to no one but himself, which isn't a good thing. But I support him for no other reason than he isn't down with the conservative crowd and the Jesus Zombies don't like him.
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I don't know everything about the guy but when I listen to him he makes a lot of sense and is very likeable. Some of the recent republicans in the national spotlight aren't very good with communicating, he is. Most republicans back the republican candidate when its down to election time.
A great communicator can make potentially harmful ideas sound much better...ie our new president.
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They are headed in the right direction. ::) What a lost cause.
Steele to appoint anti-Ron Paul hack Anuzis to RNC position.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
..."I think he would have felt much more comfortable on the stage with the Democrats in what he said last night. And I think that he is a distraction in the Republican primary and he does not represent the base and he does not represent the party,” Anuzis said during an RNC state leadership meeting.
“Given what he said last night it was just so off the wall and out of whack that I think it was more detrimental than helpful.”
Anuzis said his petition would go to debate sponsors and broadcasters to discourage inviting Paul.
That attitude is why the republican party is where it is today.
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I dont like Steele that much. He is too moderate for my liking.
I would like to see a Goldwater type of person in there.
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Neo-conservatism is a frankenstein monster of idiocy combining the worst of the conservative movement with the worst of self greed. Bush expanded social welfare programs, grew government while nation building and claiming deficits don't matter. The RNC obviously saw what a failure it would be to continue in this direction.
Steele is against federal amendment to ban gay marriage, supports stem cell research, pro-Affirmative Action, against over-turning Roe vs Wade, against abortion ban, pretty much against everything the cons and the jesus freaks expect from a party member.
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In other words, because he is a liberal you like him.
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I don't agree with him on Affirmative Action, if he still believes its necessary (which is what his position was in 2006). With an expanding government, we must abolish any preferential treatments to a specific race. This country is very mixed and many nationalities.
As far as banning same sex marriage, he has said this is of low importance but believes its a state decision. He believes in more state's rights and less federal gov power.
I agree with him on many things and disagree on some...but I like his personality and think he is good for the party.
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Good choice.
I know almost nothing about him. Why do you think he's a good choice? Does he have any organzing and fundraising experience?
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They are headed in the right direction. ::) What a lost cause.
Steele to appoint anti-Ron Paul hack Anuzis to RNC position.
Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis said he will circulate a petition among Republican National Committee members to ban Paul from more debates. At a GOP candidates’ debate Tuesday night, Paul drew attacks from all sides, most forcefully from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, when he linked the terror attacks to U.S. bombings.
..."I think he would have felt much more comfortable on the stage with the Democrats in what he said last night. And I think that he is a distraction in the Republican primary and he does not represent the base and he does not represent the party,” Anuzis said during an RNC state leadership meeting.
“Given what he said last night it was just so off the wall and out of whack that I think it was more detrimental than helpful.”
Anuzis said his petition would go to debate sponsors and broadcasters to discourage inviting Paul.
That attitude is why the republican party is where it is today.
I didn't hear Ron Paul's comments, but I wonder why he is still a member of the party. He ought to just become an independent.
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I know almost nothing about him. Why do you think he's a good choice? Does he have any organzing and fundraising experience?
Because I've heard him speak on multiple occasions and was impressed, he has good experience, and a very good background.
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I didn't hear Ron Paul's comments, but I wonder why he is still a member of the party. He ought to just become an independent.
The only reason I stay a registered republican is to vote in the primary.
The party right now is a joke.
We need another Newt type figure.
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Because I've heard him speak on multiple occasions and was impressed, he has good experience, and a very good background.
I've heard him speak a few times on the talking head shows and on Bill Maher.
I think his job is to run strategy and fundraising for the party.
Personally, I hope he sucks at his jobs but he's the Repubs choice so more power to him.
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I've heard him speak a few times on the talking head shows and on Bill Maher.
I think his job is to run strategy and fundraising for the party.
Personally, I hope he sucks at his jobs but he's the Repubs choice so more power to him.
Karl Obama is going to be a one term president regardless if he keeps rubber stamping everythinbg from pelosi.
Congratulations on voting for a marxist.
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The only reason I stay a registered republican is to vote in the primary.
The party right now is a joke.
We need another Newt type figure.
The party definitely lacks a message and a leader.
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The party definitely lacks a message and a leader.
Did you see the interview Steele did on Fox news Sunday??
Boy, he impressed me.
He would certainly fill the bill as a leader with a message.
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Did you see the interview Steele did on Fox news Sunday??
Boy, he impressed me.
He would certainly fill the bill as a leader with a message.
Missed it, but I've heard him speak before and I've always been impressed.
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I just read the transcript. Here it is:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,486395,00.html
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In other words, because he is a liberal you like him.
Well he is noted to be quite intelligent, something that isn't related to the Repub side.... so he must be a liberal.
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Of course Lurker...its pure stupidity to not trust a big government system where they take your money, freedoms and choice.
You can criticize certain republicans for being stupid but the foundations of true conservatism are wise. They are for our protection against oppressive government and are the foundations of this country from many of our founding fathers.
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Well he is noted to be quite intelligent, something that isn't related to the Repub side.... so he must be a liberal.
Ha ha. The genius obama is already screwing up massively by letting pelosi run the show.
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obama's new approval ratings will be interesting.
THAT is why his approval ratings on jan 21/22 were relevant (despite numbnuts here saying otehrwise). Soon we'll be able to see if the stimulus package is affecting peopel's perception of him.
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obama's new approval ratings will be interesting.
THAT is why his approval ratings on jan 21/22 were relevant (despite numbnuts here saying otehrwise). Soon we'll be able to see if the stimulus package is affecting peopel's perception of him.
Wait till he pushes Card Check and tried to repeal dont ask dont tell!
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tried to repeal dont ask dont tell!
Do you really care if people in the military are gay or not?
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Do you really care if people in the military are gay or not?
I don't see the purpose... I agree with Don't ask don't tell... The only reason why people would want to say whether they're gay in the Military or not is because they want to get out in the first place.
Do you ask people walking down the street if they're gay? I don't... so why would the Military?
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Of course Lurker...its pure stupidity to not trust a big government system where they take your money, freedoms and choice.
You can criticize certain republicans for being stupid but the foundations of true conservatism are wise. They are for our protection against oppressive government and are the foundations of this country from many of our founding fathers.
If so, the Repubs have failed at their own platform.
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obama's new approval ratings will be interesting.
THAT is why his approval ratings on jan 21/22 were relevant (despite numbnuts here saying otehrwise). Soon we'll be able to see if the stimulus package is affecting peopel's perception of him.
as of yet there is no stimulus package except the money (our money) we gave to the banks
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as of yet there is no stimulus package except the money (our money) we gave to the banks
I was talking about O's new stim package.
the last package, all went to banks who quietly did whatever they wanted with it.
at least this one will stay in our borders with americans, no so firms can open up new factories in china.
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Do you really care if people in the military are gay or not?
I care what the military thinks. If they want it, keep it, if not, tough shit for the gays.
The military is not supposed to be a social engineering project.
I want a military that is the best and toughest in the world, not a place of social "fairness" and lowered moral.
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I was talking about O's new stim package.
the last package, all went to banks who quietly did whatever they wanted with it.
at least this one will stay in our borders with americans, no so firms can open up new factories in china.
Ok taxpayer, what are you getting out of this "stimulus" - - - -- SQUAT!!!!!!!!!!
It goes all to the bums, government agencies, global warming phonies, planned parenthood and other cry babies screaming for taxpayer money.
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Ok taxpayer, what are you getting out of this "stimulus" - - - -- SQUAT!!!!!!!!!!
It goes all to the bums, government agencies, global warming phonies, planned parenthood and other cry babies screaming for taxpayer money.
I didn't say the $ went to taxpayers, I said it went to american.s
Is it a big welfare package? sure.
Does a welfare package > a military package?
Yes. Because the $ is spent in our borders. Those welfare slut moms will spend the $ at walmart.
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I didn't say the $ went to taxpayers, I said it went to american.s
Is it a big welfare package? sure.
Does a welfare package > a military package?
Yes. Because the $ is spent in our borders. Those welfare slut moms will spend the $ at walmart.
This is nonsense! this is just a forcible taking of $$$$$$ from those of us who work to those of us who wont.
What a joke.
Joe the Plumber was right - Obama is a socialist and wants to take everyone who works' money and give it to those who wont.
Cheer on this commie if you like, but I will not.
I HOPE HE FAILS IN HIS MARXIST PLANS!
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A welfare package is good for few people and certainly does not help our overall economic power in the world or the value of our money.
We'll continue to follow this story but looks like more democrats in the senate are opposing the bill in its present form and looking to ammend it. Thank god. The bill is a disgrace and an insult to the American people. Obama will be seen as weak if he cannot control Pelosi and the far left of the party (as is happening).
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This is nonsense! this is just a forcible taking of $$$$$$ from those of us who work to those of us who wont.
What a joke.
Joe the Plumber was right - Obama is a socialist and wants to take everyone who works' money and give it to those who wont.
Cheer on this commie if you like, but I will not.
I HOPE HE FAILS IN HIS MARXIST PLANS!
Both spendings were wrong and stupid.
My point is that if a prez is going to drop 1 tril in spending, i'd rather it be spent on people and things in the USA, rather than rebuilding infrastructure in iraq, paying off afghanistan warlords, etc.
Wouldn't you? I mean, if you HAD to spend the $, where would you rather it go?
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Both spendings were wrong and stupid.
My point is that if a prez is going to drop 1 tril in spending, i'd rather it be spent on people and things in the USA, rather than rebuilding infrastructure in iraq, paying off afghanistan warlords, etc.
Wouldn't you? I mean, if you HAD to spend the $, where would you rather it go?
That's a total straw man argument. It's not like the money's earmarked for here or iraq. Of course anyone would want it here.
We just want it here in the right place.
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Both spendings were wrong and stupid.
My point is that if a prez is going to drop 1 tril in spending, i'd rather it be spent on people and things in the USA, rather than rebuilding infrastructure in iraq, paying off afghanistan warlords, etc.
Wouldn't you? I mean, if you HAD to spend the $, where would you rather it go?
I disagree with your entire premise. We dont have to spend this NEW TRILLION DOLLARS money in the first place.
Cut the fat, waste, fraud, and abuse from other areas, and apply that money to Infrastructure.
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I hear what your saying 240 but we must analyze each decision individually. Iraq was a mess...at least it has stabilized and looks like we are able to withdraw many more troops in the next 2 yrs.
This bailout must not be looked at in comparison to the Iraq spending, it is separate. It is another, and larger, spending bill with very questionable effects.
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I hear what your saying 240 but we must analyze each decision individually. Iraq was a mess...at least it has stabilized and looks like we are able to withdraw many more troops in the next 2 yrs.
This bailout must not be looked at in comparison to the Iraq spending, it is separate. It is another, and larger, spending bill with very questionable effects.
The democrats are showing themselves to be the 5 year olds that we said they are.
Just because GWB makes a huge mess and has his bailout - they think its ok for themselves to cause an equal mess and have their own 1 trillion dollar spending disaster.
THIS IS CHANGE ALRIGHT - FOR THE WORSE!
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333...I had to look that damn word up! Nice.
I really like to Steele. He has more of a laid back approach, which I like, but I understand your criticizm.
I listen Steele on Friday mornings on the radio. He is excellent. Extremely positive person and very humble, smart and rational. He is NOT a Rush Limbaugh so will be attractive to more moderates like myself. He is a conservative principled guy but not the typical GOP person we've seen in the past. Steele is an excellent speaker and can communicate well, unlike many in the party.
Overall, excellent choice. I hope this man goes far. Love his positive and non-militaristic partisan attitude. We have too much shouting in politics. Steele is will help the party. I hate pandering too but hope he will attract more blacks to the party. Principles are color blind and republicans need to get back to the defining principles of limited government and protecting personal freedoms (ie Ron Paul). Enough pandering to the far right.
Speaking as you know, the board black person - he won't ;D
It will be seen as obvious subtle pandering - plus the thing that blacks vote black isn't actually true - we vote dem as a rule. Look at races [including Steeles senate race] where the GOP runs a black man againest a white dem - the white dem gets the black vote, and while I am at it the Native American vote which is a small block yes, but votes as strongly dem as blacks do. Running a black man won't get the black vote, running a black dem will. That is true all the time.
Only way Steele can attract the black vote really, is same way all moderates might, as well as the offshoot effect of his appointment flushing out some racists in the GOP [of which there are many, lets not pull punches]. Really to attract the black vote, that is what is needed. Many blacks, myself and my family amongst them, would be GOP - but if you attend an event and its all sorts of racist crap going on - you're out of there.
My brother - been stateside for 20 years - makes buckets of money and being from a place like me is wildly anti - welfare. He was all repub with himself, but a few didnt like the 6ft 4" brother in their midst - so he said frig em and went dem.
To attract the blacks [who in the end are like everyone else, we all feel differently and have various views] main issue is to get rid of the racist elements. I don't mean the elected officials, really few are racist most are pols who either mean well or are corrupt lol - but the supporters, of which there are many. One only needs to look at youtube vids of Palin rallies to see that. So if Steele pisses of some racists in the GOP and the GOP looses their support - that could indirectly long term help bring the black vote.
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I agree with you. Pandering to any group is offensive.
This is why the immigration debate is so maddening.
WTF should we pander to hispanics over something we all know is wrong?????????
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I care what the military thinks. If they want it, keep it, if not, tough shit for the gays.
The military is not supposed to be a social engineering project.
I want a military that is the best and toughest in the world, not a place of social "fairness" and lowered moral.
Really, I think gays in the military is the least of the issue. Google away - the military is giving out mad criminal waivers at highets levels since WWII - various reports have convicted criminals making up 12 - 18% of the intake. Terribly high number, even the some factions of the military is complaining of, obviously, having a bunch of sucky guys isn't exactly good for quality.
And yes, I am not joking, including convicted rapists and child molesters. They say its "under 50". Wow, great 50 marines who like to rape women :-X
I am all for waiving it for some kid who maybe smoked some weed or stolen some gum from a store, but it is unsafe, a disgrace to the other good soldiers worldwide and the entire USA and a safety concern to have convicted rapists as military. I find it disgusting, and no one in their right mind would disagree.
Surely, anyone but a clear bigot would rather have a gay man serving then some freakin rapist. :-\
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U can't get into the Marines with that kind of Waiver. U can't get in with a GED either. The Marines have no problem meeting retention goals and neither will we if the economy stays like this. The GOP has few if any racist elements. The Dems seem to forget Byrd or segregation of who exactly pushed through all the anti-segregation legislation. The dems have done nothing but keep blacks down...with welfare..blocking vouchers...proping up teachers unions....affirmative action. The list is endless. Blacks are not new comers to this country. Every minority group has faced horrible racism but has assimilated. Asians do well, Middle Easterners, Eastern Europeans etc etc all have done well. Even latino's work very hard. The dems have a built in voting block and guys like Steele won't be able to pick enough off to make any difference.
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U can't get into the Marines with that kind of Waiver. U can't get in with a GED either. The Marines have no problem meeting retention goals and neither will we if the economy stays like this. The GOP has few if any racist elements. The Dems seem to forget Byrd or segregation of who exactly pushed through all the anti-segregation legislation. The dems have done nothing but keep blacks down...with welfare..blocking vouchers...proping up teachers unions....affirmative action. The list is endless. Blacks are not new comers to this country. Every minority group has faced horrible racism but has assimilated. Asians do well, Middle Easterners, Eastern Europeans etc etc all have done well. Even latino's work very hard. The dems have a built in voting block and guys like Steele won't be able to pick enough off to make any difference.
You can get into the *army* though with convictions, unless every single news source and the army itself is lying through their teeth.
The fact is - convicted rapists are in the US military. Fact, and a disgrace, and anyone who disagrees is also a disgrace. Rapists and child molesters are the scum of the earth.
The GOP has racist elements, that is a fact. Small yes, but they are there and sadly vocal so seem greater numbers. Of course the average GOP person does not feel this way, but bad elements stick out more, human nature. And also, anyone prone to be racist is most likely a far right loon anyway - and the GOP needs to, as Shootfighter said, veer away from the far right and get back to low tax, small government. The antiabortion, racist, guns, god and homophobe zealots can't vote anyone in - too small a block [which is great of course] so get back to the basics - attracting those that want minimal handouts and low taxes.
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Um......first off I'm in a much better position to know. Second u said Marines as in USMC...United States Marine Corp. The Marines are a separate fighting force with their own set of recruiting standards.
As far as ur Lib rant. Guns!!! Its defined in our Constitution so while offensive to lib douchbags everywhere, we can keep our guns. And are they really far right loons....how many times are Republicans shouted down on college campuses or are supposed racist rants actually hoxed by libs? Libs hoist a bunch of their bullshit on the rest of us but don't want it near them.
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I am primarily an economic focused conservative. The social issues, while important, are secondary to economic federal policy. I think Steele may attract some.
CQ, I agree with a lot of what u said. Some racist people may be republican because there are only 2 party choices...just as some wackos who hate America and its general policies may choose to be democrat, but I think very very few republican officals are racist these days. There will be a rebirth of conservative economic ideas these next couple yrs, seems like its starting already.
Nonetheless, we must punish any racist element in the party whenever possible because its pathetic and also bad for the party. As blacks continue to make more money, we will see more economically conservative black Americans. I have a few friends like this. They make good $ and don't want the gov to take 1/2 of it away, they also don't want to be told by the gov what they can and cannot do. Many black Americans do not trust or like big government but have traditionally voted democrat because the democrats pander to minority groups for their vote. You can certainly make an argument that some democrats keep people in catagories and support programs that play to that rather than giving all an opportunity and keeping hands off, as is the traditional true conservative approach. The republican party needs more principled conservatives and moderates...and needs them to speak out again.
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The GOP has few if any racist elements.
hilarious! ;D
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hilarious! ;D
How is KKK Byrd doing??????????
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How is KKK Byrd doing??????????
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In the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People's (NAACP)Congressional Report Card for the 108th Congress (spanning the 2003–2004 congressional session), Byrd was awarded with an approval rating of 100 percent for favoring the NAACP's position in all 33 bills presented to the United States Senate regarding issues of their concern. Only 16 other Senators of the same session matched this approval rating. In June 2005, Byrd[51] proposed an additional $10 million in federal funding for the Martin Luther King memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that "With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently."
More than all this, though, Byrd's decision to stand with Obama deserves notice as a sign of one man's evolution.
As is noted in virtually every lengthy story about Byrd, as a young man he joined the Ku Klux Klan. There has been an ongoing dispute about the length of his membership and his commitment to the Klan's racist cause -- Byrd over the years has minimized his involvement; others have said that in doing so he ignores the facts.
The issue was examined by the Washington Post in a 2005 article headlined "A Senator's Shame."
What has not been in dispute is Byrd's mea culpas. The Post piece ended with this quote from him:
"I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
-- Don Frederick
Black people know about Byrd's past and have forgiven him.
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Right, because he follows the NAACP agenda.
If he were a republican you would not.
The NAACP is a freaking joke and a disgrace.
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You can get into the *army* though with convictions, unless every single news source and the army itself is lying through their teeth.
The fact is - convicted rapists are in the US military. Fact, and a disgrace, and anyone who disagrees is also a disgrace. Rapists and child molesters are the scum of the earth.
The GOP has racist elements, that is a fact. Small yes, but they are there and sadly vocal so seem greater numbers. Of course the average GOP person does not feel this way, but bad elements stick out more, human nature. And also, anyone prone to be racist is most likely a far right loon anyway - and the GOP needs to, as Shootfighter said, veer away from the far right and get back to low tax, small government. The antiabortion, racist, guns, god and homophobe zealots can't vote anyone in - too small a block [which is great of course] so get back to the basics - attracting those that want minimal handouts and low taxes.
If the "antiabortion, racists, god and homophobe zealots can't vote anyone in", why were they blamed, especially the "god and homophobe zealots", for Bush's re-election in 2004?
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The democrats are showing themselves to be the 5 year olds that we said they are.
Just because GWB makes a huge mess and has his bailout - they think its ok for themselves to cause an equal mess and have their own 1 trillion dollar spending disaster.
THIS IS CHANGE ALRIGHT - FOR THE WORSE!
Obama's plan helps americans a lot more than Bush's iraq spending did.
it creates a lot more jobs too.
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Obama's plan helps americans a lot more than Bush's iraq spending did.
it creates a lot more jobs too.
Give it up dude, every economist has said this plan is a mess. It created jobs at the welfare office, plannedparenthood and other liberal rat holes.
You are just in denial that your boy Obama has already been proven to be the clown most of us said he would be.
BTW - it is plain as day he will rubbwer stamp anything from Pelosi.
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Um......first off I'm in a much better position to know. Second u said Marines as in USMC...United States Marine Corp. The Marines are a separate fighting force with their own set of recruiting standards.
HH6, be real - its public knowledge. The US Military has accepted convicted rapists and child molesters. The stats of 12 - 18% of the new army recruits include criminals - stats given by the military.
The marines I did say, was a misspeak cool - but fact remains the military as in army - the ever praised "troops" include men who the US gov already convicted and locked away for rape and kiddie fiddling.
That is an embarassment and a disgrace. Rapists? It gets no lower then that.
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If the "antiabortion, racists, god and homophobe zealots can't vote anyone in", why were they blamed, especially the "god and homophobe zealots", for Bush's re-election in 2004?
Fearmongering did that, hardly debatable.
Antiabortion, racists, god and homophobe zealots are not a large voting block anymore [which is great]. Include the sexists in that bunch as well. Times change and for the better.
GOP gets back to small gov, lower taxes and they can regain what they were.
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Fearmongering did that, hardly debatable.
Antiabortion, racists, god and homophobe zealots are not a large voting block anymore [which is great]. Include the sexists in that bunch as well. Times change and for the better.
GOP gets back to small gov, lower taxes and they can regain what they were.
Reagan, Bush Sr., and Dubya were all pro life Christian "homophobes" who won five presidential elections. The GOP doesn't need to change any of its core values to win more elections. They need a clear message and a leader. They have neither at the moment.
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This is nonsense! this is just a forcible taking of $$$$$$ from those of us who work to those of us who wont.
What a joke.
Joe the Plumber was right - Obama is a socialist and wants to take everyone who works' money and give it to those who wont.
Cheer on this commie if you like, but I will not.
I HOPE HE FAILS IN HIS MARXIST PLANS!
Is not sending money to Iraq welfare?
It's just not staying inside our borders... It's going across the world.
Am I missing something?
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Is not sending money to Iraq welfare?
It's just not staying inside our borders... It's going across the world.
Am I missing something?
Oh no. I agree with you. :o To a degree. The Iraq war is welfare for the Iraqi people. They need to be writing us a check.
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Oh no. I agree with you. :o To a degree. The Iraq war is welfare for the Iraqi people. They need to be writing us a check.
That's what I think... Where's my Iraq check.
I don't think welfare is necessarily bad, but I think it's implemented like shit.
Making more money being on welfare than by actually having a shit job... That's bullshit. It's not a tool to help... It's just a crutch now.
Don't get me started on unemployment and how people abuse it.
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That's what I think... Where's my Iraq check.
I don't think welfare is necessarily bad, but I think it's implemented like shit.
Making more money being on welfare than by actually having a shit job... That's bullshit. It's not a tool to help... It's just a crutch now.
Don't get me started on unemployment and how people abuse it.
Yep. People abuse worker's comp too.