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Does anyone here have trouble finding motivation to eat even when they are not hungry?. I am a tru hard gainer and I have the HARDEST trying to eat a lot of food. My food source is great too, I live in a frat house so there is a buffet all day down stairs from like 7am to 10 pm. Some of the food aint that healthy (chicken fingers, grilled cheese) but there is plenty of food that is, not to mention an endless supply of apples bananas, peanut butter, cottage cheese, skim milk and oatmeal 24hrs a day via the breakfast bar.
Trouble is I try to eat a lot of food and split it up throughout the day but I'm just never that hungry. I basically feel like Im forcing food down no matter what it is or how long it has been since i had last eaten. Sometimes I get high just so Ill eat, but Im not a stoner and dont want to just be high all the time. Im down to do some disgusting shit like toss a can o tuna in my protien shaker, mix it up and down it. Yet no matter what when i way myself in the morning my scale will randomly generate a number between 172 and 180( im 5'11'' btw). Its frustrating....
Point is I am looking for some advice on how to pack down some serious food. I can tell that I am just not eating enough and want to eat more, but it would be a whole hell of a lot easier if i was actually hungry. What motivates you to eat?????
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I'm motivated to eat because I love the taste of food, they only thing I hate is preparation and cooking time but it looks like you've got that covered.
Just have a sit down with a bottle of thickened cream and spoon some down.
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Man up and eat or drink whey protein isolate.
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Does anyone here have trouble finding motivation to eat even when they are not hungry?. I am a tru hard gainer and I have the HARDEST trying to eat a lot of food. My food source is great too, I live in a frat house so there is a buffet all day down stairs from like 7am to 10 pm. Some of the food aint that healthy (chicken fingers, grilled cheese) but there is plenty of food that is, not to mention an endless supply of apples bananas, peanut butter, cottage cheese, skim milk and oatmeal 24hrs a day via the breakfast bar.
Trouble is I try to eat a lot of food and split it up throughout the day but I'm just never that hungry. I basically feel like Im forcing food down no matter what it is or how long it has been since i had last eaten. Sometimes I get high just so Ill eat, but Im not a stoner and dont want to just be high all the time. Im down to do some disgusting shit like toss a can o tuna in my protien shaker, mix it up and down it. Yet no matter what when i way myself in the morning my scale will randomly generate a number between 172 and 180( im 5'11'' btw). Its frustrating....
Point is I am looking for some advice on how to pack down some serious food. I can tell that I am just not eating enough and want to eat more, but it would be a whole hell of a lot easier if i was actually hungry. What motivates you to eat?????
If you are a "hardgainer", then simply "eating" will not be enough to put on size. You will need to consume at least 6 meals a day. By “consume”, I means three solid meals and three liquid meals. The liquid meals will be MRPs (like MET-Rx or Myoplex) or weight gainers (Mass XXX, N-Large2, Up Your Mass, etc).
Since you're in college, consume your shakes during class, with the last one being after your workout (if you workout in the evening). To give your taste buds a break, try switching canned tuna with canned chicken. And, if you need an extra drink before bed, down a can of evaporated milk.
That should jump-start your size gains.
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do some cardio everyday, this will boost your appetite and get you motivated to eat.
also, rely more on whey shakes for protein... as they are much less fillling, less expensive and actually better for growth than meats anyways. this leaves more room for energy dense foods.
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do some cardio everyday, this will boost your appetite and get you motivated to eat.
also, rely more on whey shakes for protein... as they are much less fillling, less expensive and actually better for growth than meats anyways. this leaves more room for energy dense foods.
If he's going to rely on whey shakes, then, he'd might want to use weight gainers like CytoGainer or N-Large2. I used the latter years ago, and it's pretty good.
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put the food in your mouth, chew it and then chase it down with a big swig of water, classic force feeding.
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If he's going to rely on whey shakes, then, he'd might want to use weight gainers like CytoGainer or N-Large2. I used the latter years ago, and it's pretty good.
true that also try eating meats and meals that arent so heavy but high in fat lots of steak shrimp tuna fish cans beer i am always hungry after drinking some goo ole beer or also try one of those sups like black hole or something that makes you hungry plus if you are working out enough you will always be hungry remember FEED THE MACHINE
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true that also try eating meats and meals that arent so heavy but high in fat lots of steak shrimp tuna fish cans beer i am always hungry after drinking some goo ole beer or also try one of those sups like black hole or something that makes you hungry plus if you are working out enough you will always be hungry remember FEED THE MACHINE
first of all if one is trying to put on size alcohol is not something they should be consuming
second of all resistance training may stimulate appetite, but no where near the amount needed. i have a huge love of food and workout 6-7 days a week with high volume everybody part twice a week... i have to force feed.
third = black hole is a great idea !
fourth = you dont want to consume low fat cuts of meat unless your dieting on a low fat diet...( which you shhouldnt do anyways)
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Wow ty for all the fast responses. I never thought about using large amounts of liquid protein to gain, but it does make sense since they arent filling, just seems like a waste when i have so much free food at my disposal.
We just had Sheperds Pie for dinner (f'ing delicious), must have consumed over a lb of straight up ground beef. Not feeling so great though, time for a nap.
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I know it's out of season, but a great way to get alot of calories in a small amount of food is egg nog.
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first of all if one is trying to put on size alcohol is not something they should be consuming
second of all resistance training may stimulate appetite, but no where near the amount needed. i have a huge love of food and workout 6-7 days a week with high volume everybody part twice a week... i have to force feed.
third = black hole is a great idea !
fourth = you dont want to consume low fat cuts of meat unless your dieting on a low fat diet...( which you shhouldnt do anyways)
dude beer has a nice source of cal carbs and antioxidents,,, 6-7 days a week high volume twice bodypart on most standards is over training man that quote right there make me question your traing skills and weather i would trust any training addvice you shell out.... and yes high amounts of alcohle disables protien synthisis but thats on alcohlic measures
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well unless you are highly anabolic which tbombz is
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Does anyone here have trouble finding motivation to eat even when they are not hungry?. I am a tru hard gainer and I have the HARDEST trying to eat a lot of food. My food source is great too, I live in a frat house so there is a buffet all day down stairs from like 7am to 10 pm. Some of the food aint that healthy (chicken fingers, grilled cheese) but there is plenty of food that is, not to mention an endless supply of apples bananas, peanut butter, cottage cheese, skim milk and oatmeal 24hrs a day via the breakfast bar.
Trouble is I try to eat a lot of food and split it up throughout the day but I'm just never that hungry. I basically feel like Im forcing food down no matter what it is or how long it has been since i had last eaten. Sometimes I get high just so Ill eat, but Im not a stoner and dont want to just be high all the time. Im down to do some disgusting shit like toss a can o tuna in my protien shaker, mix it up and down it. Yet no matter what when i way myself in the morning my scale will randomly generate a number between 172 and 180( im 5'11'' btw). Its frustrating....
Point is I am looking for some advice on how to pack down some serious food. I can tell that I am just not eating enough and want to eat more, but it would be a whole hell of a lot easier if i was actually hungry. What motivates you to eat?????
How I envy you........
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Wow ty for all the fast responses. I never thought about using large amounts of liquid protein to gain, but it does make sense since they arent filling, just seems like a waste when i have so much free food at my disposal.
We just had Sheperds Pie for dinner (f'ing delicious), must have consumed over a lb of straight up ground beef. Not feeling so great though, time for a nap.
Even if you have access to a lot of free food, gorging yourself at one or two meals isn’t going to cut it. You need to consume more meals more often. That means either eating six solid meals or eating three and drinking three.
I had access to free food in college too, as my scholarship paid for my room and board. I STILL ended up having to buy supplements (namely weight gainer, protein powder, and eventually eggs and beef) to help me put on mass.
You have to be able to take your meals with you and eat, according to schedule. That means pre-packing your meals and/or weight-gainer/protein powder. If you’re waiting until you get to the frat house or cafeteria to eat, chances are you’ve let WAY too much time pass between meals. Stuffing yourself at lunch or dinner, in an attempt to compensate for that, will not be effective.
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dude beer has a nice source of cal carbs and antioxidents,,, 6-7 days a week high volume twice bodypart on most standards is over training man that quote right there make me question your traing skills and weather i would trust any training addvice you shell out.... and yes high amounts of alcohle disables protien synthisis but thats on alcohlic measures
i dont mean for this response to sound rude or "curt"...however i just wrote a big long response to this, then it somehow lcicked off the screen and got deleted... so, im just gonna summarize
overtraining by what standards ? by standards of the inexperienced and uneducated.... thats by whose standards...
alcohol is nto a good source of anything except a poison which effects body composition negatively. low in calories and carbs, small amounts of anti dioxidants. high in alcohol. alcohol dehyrates, impairs anabolic genes, turns on lipogenic genes. the small amount of anti dixidants do not in anyway come close to compensating for even one of these negative attributes of alcohol. alcohol is not healthy , not in any amount. not in one light beer, not in a glass of wine, not at night to help you sleep (and whjile yes alcohol might put you to sleep, the sleep doesnt actually let yourmmind get the rest it needs as alcohol inhibits you from the rem sleep)
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alcohol is nto a good source of anything except a poison which effects body composition negatively. low in calories and carbs, small amounts of anti dioxidants. high in alcohol. alcohol dehyrates, impairs anabolic genes, turns on lipogenic genes. the small amount of anti dixidants do not in anyway come close to compensating for even one of these negative attributes of alcohol. alcohol is not healthy , not in any amount. not in one light beer, not in a glass of wine, not at night to help you sleep (and whjile yes alcohol might put you to sleep, the sleep doesnt actually let yourmmind get the rest it needs as alcohol inhibits you from the rem sleep)
You're going a little overboard here. Moderate consumption of dark beer & red wine is fine & won't hurt you. The problems arise when you overdo it (i.e. having 5-6 drinks a day instead of 1-2).
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You're going a little overboard here. Moderate consumption of dark beer & red wine is fine & won't hurt you. The problems arise when you overdo it (i.e. having 5-6 drinks a day instead of 1-2).
maybe it wont have any significant impact, vbut the idea that a glass of win at night is actually "healthy" is outright false.
the idea that a small amount of anti dioxidants asuddenly outweeighs the alcohol content and the liquid carbs... ehhh i hear the big mac super size meal with milkshake has a few anti dioxidants in it too..you know..the lettucs and tomoato in the burger.... :D
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maybe it wont have any significant impact, vbut the idea that a glass of win at night is actually "healthy" is outright false.
the idea that a small amount of anti dioxidants asuddenly outweeighs the alcohol content and the liquid carbs... ehhh i hear the big mac super size meal with milkshake has a few anti dioxidants in it too..you know..the lettucs and tomoato in the burger.... :D
You're missing the moderation part. One drink a day is fine & won't set you back...go overboard & you'll be in trouble.
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Does anyone here have trouble finding motivation to eat even when they are not hungry?. I am a tru hard gainer and I have the HARDEST trying to eat a lot of food. My food source is great too, I live in a frat house so there is a buffet all day down stairs from like 7am to 10 pm. Some of the food aint that healthy (chicken fingers, grilled cheese) but there is plenty of food that is, not to mention an endless supply of apples bananas, peanut butter, cottage cheese, skim milk and oatmeal 24hrs a day via the breakfast bar.
Trouble is I try to eat a lot of food and split it up throughout the day but I'm just never that hungry. I basically feel like Im forcing food down no matter what it is or how long it has been since i had last eaten. Sometimes I get high just so Ill eat, but Im not a stoner and dont want to just be high all the time. Im down to do some disgusting shit like toss a can o tuna in my protien shaker, mix it up and down it. Yet no matter what when i way myself in the morning my scale will randomly generate a number between 172 and 180( im 5'11'' btw). Its frustrating....
Point is I am looking for some advice on how to pack down some serious food. I can tell that I am just not eating enough and want to eat more, but it would be a whole hell of a lot easier if i was actually hungry. What motivates you to eat?????
Do you do squats to failure? That will make you big and hungry as a mother fucker!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V5hegptffjg/SJmiJJb9IXI/AAAAAAAAAAs/lg6-tepMceg/s400/squats.jpg)
Good luck! ;)
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You're missing the moderation part. One drink a day is fine & won't set you back...go overboard & you'll be in trouble.
well....eh... alcohol is not something natural to humans... regardless of how moderate the intake is... its not supposed to be in the body.... there is no analogue... its a not a synthetics version of anything... its a posion... no more no less
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well....eh... alcohol is not something natural to humans... regardless of how moderate the intake is... its not supposed to be in the body.... there is no analogue... its a not a synthetics version of anything... its a posion... no more no less
Taylor, the same could be said for most drugs, nearly all food additives, etc...
Please explain to me how coming home from work & having a pint of Guinness with a fairly healthy dinner will kill me. Take note that I said one pint not ten.
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Taylor, the same could be said for most drugs, nearly all food additives, etc...
Please explain to me how coming home from work & having a pint of Guinness with a fairly healthy dinner will kill me. Take note that I said one pint not ten.
i cant explain how it will kill you, as it will not kill you, and i never claimed it would.
however i already explained how it will be detrimental to progress... and unhealthy to boot
to each their own...
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i cant explain how it will kill you, as it will not kill you, and i never claimed it would.
however i already explained how it will be detrimental to progress... and unhealthy to boot
to each their own...
You know what I meant though I know it won't kill you (it was a figure of speech). You're acting like alcohol is the worst thing in the world. All I'm saying is moderate alcohol use is fine & can have some benefits - no more, no less.
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i cant explain how it will kill you, as it will not kill you, and i never claimed it would.
however i already explained how it will be detrimental to progress... and unhealthy to boot
to each their own...
Explain how dianabol is natural to humans & that humans should be ingesting it. ;D
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dude beer makes you strong and tough jesus drank it and so did arnold nough said...... and those orals are diff. notnatural to your body its a poisen
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Explain how dianabol is natural to humans & that humans should be ingesting it. ;D
it is a synthetic derivative of testosterone, an androgen produced in every human body. while not identical to testosterone, it works through identical pathways and has very similar effects.
alcohol has no such relationship with anything in the body.
oh, and dbol has positive effects of body composition and sleep. ;)
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cocaine is great
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I feel for you, when I was in college, I also had a hard time putting on weight. Here is what I did to break the cycle.
#1. Get on some creatine. Take 5- 10 grams every day. After the second day you should notice this thirst to drink gatorade by the gallon. After two weeks you should have put on 15-20 lbs of water weight ( muscles saturated with water ). You will notice a huge difference in the gym, plus you might also notice your appetite has increased.
#2. Start eating calorie dense foods. Like PBJ. I used to eat 8 PBJ sandwiches every day. Just as long as its Peanut Butter and something sweet to make it easy to eat ( jelly, Honey, bananas ). If you are having trouble gaining its most likely because you aren't getting enough calories and fats in your diet. Fats are essential for Test.
#3. If you still have trouble putting on weight after that, you might have low test. Try a bottle of Novadex XT for a month.
#4 Finally, Doing exercises like squats, deadlifts, bench, to failure ( til you puke ) is a great way to shock your body.
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Tbombz is right. Our bodies do have receptors for things like cocaine, marijuana, steroids, but no alcohol receptors.
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Tbombz is right. Our bodies do have receptors for things like cocaine, marijuana, steroids, but no alcohol receptors.
Alcohol binds to many different receptors, mainly the GABA receptor.
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Frats? People still join those things?
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I feel for you, when I was in college, I also had a hard time putting on weight. Here is what I did to break the cycle.
#1. Get on some creatine. Take 5- 10 grams every day. After the second day you should notice this thirst to drink gatorade by the gallon. After two weeks you should have put on 15-20 lbs of water weight ( muscles saturated with water ). You will notice a huge difference in the gym, plus you might also notice your appetite has increased.
#2. Start eating calorie dense foods. Like PBJ. I used to eat 8 PBJ sandwiches every day. Just as long as its Peanut Butter and something sweet to make it easy to eat ( jelly, Honey, bananas ). If you are having trouble gaining its most likely because you aren't getting enough calories and fats in your diet. Fats are essential for Test.
#3. If you still have trouble putting on weight after that, you might have low test. Try a bottle of Novadex XT for a month.
#4 Finally, Doing exercises like squats, deadlifts, bench, to failure ( til you puke ) is a great way to shock your body.
Are you serious? 15-20 lbs in two weeks is insane. You need to watch for overeating too, especially for fats if you're just starting to try and pack on more calories. What affect does "shocking your body" have to do with gaining more mass?
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Motivation to Eat BIG
Just eat lots of sugar. It contains plenty of calories in itself, and it will boost your appetite by making you hypoglycemic. Happy eating. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, I have removed some posts from "tbombz" and "MC78" where they insult each other and even resort to religious putdowns. Take that shit to PM or to the religious board if you want to debate theology, epistemology and philosophy. I don't think even the V board would tolerate this garbage.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Just eat lots of sugar. It contains plenty of calories in itself, and it will boost your appetite by making you hypoglycemic. Happy eating. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Everybody says stuff about eating a ton of sugar. Yeah it has a lot of calories but what nutritional value does it serve? What about going to lypogenesis if it doesn't get burned up as a carb? And what about the onset of Type II Diabetes if you consistently eat a ton of sugar all of the time until you are on a constant insulin spike and your blood sugar is so fucked up your at Diabetes risk?
Sugar should be used in moderation, mainly for post workout insulin spikes to reduce cortisol in the blood and and more readily deliver protein and other nutrients PW. Anybody else's thoughts on this or am I the only person who's been through human anatomy courses?
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Everybody says stuff about eating a ton of sugar. Yeah it has a lot of calories but what nutritional value does it serve? What about going to lypogenesis if it doesn't get burned up as a carb? And what about the onset of Type II Diabetes if you consistently eat a ton of sugar all of the time until you are on a constant insulin spike and your blood sugar is so fucked up your at Diabetes risk?
Sugar should be used in moderation, mainly for post workout insulin spikes to reduce cortisol in the blood and and more readily deliver protein and other nutrients PW. Anybody else's thoughts on this or am I the only person who's been through human anatomy courses?
He asked for advice on how to increase appetite, and I gave it to him. Sure, sugar is terrible for one's health. But some guys have as their first priority getting big, and many have dificulty eating the amout of calories from clean carbs necessry to pack on size. Sugar is rich on calories, is digested and absorbed faster than complex carbs and has the added bonus of increasing appetitie by giving you an insulin crash, and that's great for those wanting to increase overral caloric intake.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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i agree with suckmymuscle is saying
i dont agree that a hard training bodybuilder is risking diabetes with sugar... a sedentary person, yes....bodybuilder, no
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i agree with suckmymuscle is saying
i dont agree that a hard training bodybuilder is risking diabetes with sugar... a sedentary person, yes....bodybuilder, no
Well, everyone is risking diabetes to some degree by eating refined sugars, but this was not my point. My point is that, for young healthy guys, the risk is remote and they are more concerned with packing on mass now than with the potential health consequences that eating sugar might have 30 or 40 years from now. If you ask a bunch of 20 year-old if they would eat something today that will pack on 20 lbs of mass on them, but that might cause them health problems 20 or 30 years from now, most would say they would.
SUCKMYMUSCLE