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http://www.karachinews.net/story/458766
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3665670,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5570052.ece
'Let me answer that with a question. We are under attack. There was not a single person in this zoo. Just the animals. We all fled before they came. What purpose does it serve to walk around shooting animals and destroying the place?'
Inside one cage lie three dead monkeys and another two in the cage beside them. Two more escaped and have yet to return. He points to a clay pot. 'They tried to hide', he says of a mother and baby half-tucked inside.
Qasim says that his main two priorities at the moment are rebuilding the zoo and taking the Israeli army to court. For the first, he says he will need close to $200,000 to return the zoo to its former state - and he wants the Israelis to cover the costs. 'They have to pay me for all this damage.'
We ask him why it's so important for Gaza to have a zoo. 'During the past four years it was the most popular place for kids. They came from all over the Gaza Strip. There was nowhere else for people to go.'
They even tried to kill the pregnant lions, but they managed to get away and are surviving now.
(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00472/Foreign_4__472951a.jpg)
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Nice try, why don't you mention that Hamas booby trapped the Zoo and left the animals starving?
You are a racist idiot.
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morons on both sides.
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morons on both sides.
You too again? You can actually find videos of the soldiers walking through the Zoo showing the booby traps, some of the lions were transfered to Israeli Zoo's due to the poor condition they were in.
Stop believing the Islamic satanical crap.
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No one has provided proof that Hamas booby trapped the Zoo.
Also, Even if the zoo was bobby trapped...There is no reason to kill the animals, or even go into the zoo.
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You too again? You can actually find videos of the soldiers walking through the Zoo showing the booby traps, some of the lions were transfered to Israeli Zoo's due to the poor condition they were in.
Stop believing the Islamic satanical crap.
i only say i can see them doing it both.
if this thread would be about islamist doing this you wouldnt question the validity of it for a moment.
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No one has provided proof that Hamas booby trapped the Zoo.
Also, Even if the zoo was bobby trapped...There is no reason to kill the animals, or even go into the zoo.
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhs9ihSmbU
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They've never heard of propaganda..because Hamas always tells the truth.
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They've never heard of propaganda..because Hamas always tells the truth.
Funny thing is the Ynet is an Israeli site, and the article there only shows the Israelis in a good manner.
These fuckers can't even hate properly lol.
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Nice try, why don't you mention that Hamas booby trapped the Zoo and left the animals starving?
You are a racist idiot.
hahahahahaha, you'll defend Israel no matter what they do, Ira Rosenbloom. ::)
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You too again? You can actually find videos of the soldiers walking through the Zoo showing the booby traps, some of the lions were transfered to Israeli Zoo's due to the poor condition they were in.
Stop believing the Islamic satanical crap.
Geez, Mars statement was perfectly valid and simple, of course there are morons on both sides, no need to melt about it
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hahahahahaha, you'll defend Israel no matter what they do, Ira Rosenbloom. ::)
Ok Chubby..I'd skin u and eat u if even looked at my dogs wrong...but I'd like proof before believing this crap.
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Ok Chubby..I'd skin u and eat u if even looked at my dogs wrong...but I'd like proof before believing this crap.
::)
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headhunter deserves a good beat.
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headhunter deserves a good beat.
typical deluded Israel lover that believes they do nothing wrong, probably even believes he's "fighting for freedom" too. ::)
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Oh ok quaker or sarcasm or whatever....again provide proof. If u can put down the twinkies. Oh no..I'm fighting for ur right to eat ho ho's and whiped lard.
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Oh ok quaker or sarcasm or whatever....again provide proof. If u can put down the twinkies. Oh no..I'm fighting for ur right to eat ho ho's and whiped lard.
Have you ever noticed how the CT lovers and Islam supporters always fail to bring valid evidence yet the others always supply plenty of them?
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Funny how a thread about some dead animals blows up yet a thread about the Taliban killing 45+ civilians in Pakistan goes by the wayside.
There was a recovery of bone-thin lions from some Hamas sheikh's house in Gaza one or two years ago. Why would someone even store lions in their house? ???
headhunter deserves a good beat.
Like most jihadist sympathizers. ;)
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http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhs9ihSmbU
That's not the zoo I mentioned.
And you didn't answer the 2nd rebuttal.
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That's not the zoo I mentioned.
And you didn't answer the 2nd rebuttal.
Than quote into here the exact paragraph you want to receive your answer for, I tend to ignore biased articles with no proofs behind them.
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Than quote into here the exact paragraph you want to receive your answer for, I tend to ignore biased articles with no proofs behind them.
Who's bias? If you're saying that times online is bias and baseless, you're a kook. The proof are the pictures and the eyewitness testimony.
My question: Even if the zoo was bobby trapped..Why shoot down and HUNT DOWN the animals, even in their cages? With rocket launchers? Who the fuck can defend this?
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At least one animal, a Japanese monkey, was shot, said Mr Qassim.
Remember, the statements are by a person who makes his jihadist inclinations clear with this quote:
The Israelis can come and they can shoot us and send their missiles to kill us and they make us bleed. But some of us will survive, and we will be ready for them with our claws
- Mr Qassim
Yes, this man is a beacon of society, I'm sure his emotions aren't skewing his statements... ::)
Oh, and why does that fat tubby trailer trash middle easterner (QuakerOats) come into any thread about Israel / Jews but doesn't provide input other than abuse? Are you a jihadist fatty?
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Who's bias? If you're saying that times online is bias and baseless, you're a kook. The proof are the pictures and the eyewitness testimony.
My question: Even if the zoo was bobby trapped..Why shoot down and HUNT DOWN the animals, even in their cages? With rocket launchers? Who the fuck can defend this?
Your witness is far from the ultimate proof.
I see no logic and reason for the soldiers to hunt down animals for fun, these articles shows immense bias.
Also the bias is seen by the term "rocket launcher" wtf? They supposedly shoot RPG on them...yeah right...not only that their commanding officer will jail them for that they will be in danger of killing themself shooting that in a small area.
Not to mention the article YOU posted that says the Israeli helped the starved animals.
So what you think about Hamas stealing the food the UN bring to Gaza? You fucking hypocrate.
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Remember, the statements are by a person who makes his jihadist inclinations clear with this quote:
- Mr Qassim
Yes, this man is a beacon of society, I'm sure his emotions aren't skewing his statements... ::)
Oh, and why does that fat tubby trailer trash middle easterner (QuakerOats) come into any thread about Israel / Jews but doesn't provide input other than abuse? Are you a jihadist fatty?
hahahaha, calm down Joel Rubenstein, stop getting so worked up. :D
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Your witness is far from the ultimate proof.
I see no logic and reason for the soldiers to hunt down animals for fun, these articles shows immense bias.
Also the bias is seen by the term "rocket launcher" wtf? They supposedly shoot RPG on them...yeah right...not only that their commanding officer will jail them for that they will be in danger of killing themself shooting that in a small area.
Not to mention the article YOU posted that says the Israeli helped the starved animals.
So what you think about Hamas stealing the food the UN bring to Gaza? You fucking hypocrate.
The news people who did these articles actually went to the zoo, took pictures, etc. There was even a picture of a dead camel that had been shot.
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Camel shot
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The news people who did these articles actually went to the zoo, took pictures, etc. There was even a picture of a dead camel that had been shot.
Took pictures long after the supposed shootings, you do know that was a war zone and that Hamas will surely kill those animals just to make the Israelis look bad.
I'm sure they either died by some stray bullet//etc or by Hamas.
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Took pictures long after the supposed shootings, you do know that was a war zone and that Hamas will surely kill those animals just to make the Israelis look bad.
I'm sure they either died by some stray bullet//etc or by Hamas.
You're sure? Even though the news agencies and eyewitnesses say different?
If it were clearly a fraud, Israeli news sources would be rallying to refute them. But the only news sources on this support the initially stated facts that Israeli soldiers went wild.
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You're sure? Even though the news agencies and eyewitnesses say different?
If it were clearly a fraud, Israeli news sources would be rallying to refute them. But the only news sources on this support the initially stated facts that Israeli soldiers went wild.
Yawn, sure buddy, anymore baseless shit you got to share? You seem to always have an excuse for the terrorists, why don't you join them ?
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Yawn, sure buddy, anymore baseless shit you got to share? You seem to always have an excuse for the terrorists, why don't you join them ?
You're not being rational. You deny the reputability of major news organizations only to defend Israel...Why?
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You're not being rational. You deny the reputability of major news organizations only to defend Israel...Why?
Maybe because they have no proof.....a photo of a dead animal and a Hamas supporter "eye witness" is far from proof.
You want proof to how Hamas is? You really want me to post videos of Hamas grabbing children and using them as human shields?
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Maybe because they have no proof.....a photo of a dead animal and a Hamas supporter "eye witness" is far from proof.
You want proof to how Hamas is? You really want me to post videos of Hamas grabbing children and using them as human shields?
animal hater.
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You're not being rational. You deny the reputability of major news organizations only to defend Israel...Why?
Rational? I exposed the man making to quotes to the reporters as a jihadist. Question your own rationality comrade. The media has a duty to report what happened, unfortunately all they have for reference is one twisted jihadist. Let's check the shells and determine which weaponry they were fired from before we say either party is guilty. Comical someone making the statements you make would question another person's rationality.
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Rational? I exposed the man making to quotes to the reporters as a jihadist. Question your own rationality comrade. The media has a duty to report what happened, unfortunately all they have for reference is one twisted jihadist. Let's check the shells and determine which weaponry they were fired from before we say either party is guilty. Comical someone making the statements you make would question another person's rationality.
You exposed the zoo owner as a Jihadist? Where?
If you want to wait until the shells are examined to determine who shot them to make a conclusion, why are you already concluding that Israel is is innocent of the crime? ::)
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You exposed the zoo owner as a Jihadist? Where?
If you want to wait until the shells are examined to determine who shot them to make a conclusion, why are you already concluding that Israel is is innocent of the crime? ::)
"The Israelis can come and they can shoot us and send their missiles to kill us and they make us bleed. But some of us will survive, and we will be ready for them with our claws" - Mr Qassim
The above show jihadist aspirations.
Ever heard of this: "Innocent until proven guilty"
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"The Israelis can come and they can shoot us and send their missiles to kill us and they make us bleed. But some of us will survive, and we will be ready for them with our claws" - Mr Qassim
The above show jihadist aspirations.
Ever heard of this: "Innocent until proven guilty"
If I owned a zoo and had many of my animals shot to death and the zoo destroyed, I'd be pretty pissed off too and I'd also make plenty of threats for revenge in a general sense. ::)
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If I owned a zoo and had many of my animals shot to death and the zoo destroyed, I'd be pretty pissed off too and I'd also make plenty of threats for revenge in a general sense. ::)
Right whatever apologist; prove Israel guilty.
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Right whatever apologist; prove Israel guilty.
On the other hand, there are plenty of proofs that Hamas lied, killed and robbed from his people....
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"The Israelis can come and they can shoot us and send their missiles to kill us and they make us bleed. But some of us will survive, and we will be ready for them with our claws" - Mr Qassim
The above show jihadist aspirations.
Ever heard of this: "Innocent until proven guilty"
Talk about double standards.
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Talk about double standards.
Go on then, show the double standard. Otherwise be man enough to retract your statement :D
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We must arm zoo animals. This is a good solution.
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Go on then, show the double standard. Otherwise be man enough to retract your statement :D
Nordic, must we revisit this all the time? Seriously.
Just on this thread, you're all over the board. I mean liberalismo managed to come up with what was, in my opinion, a very sceptical and "benign" (by my standards) response to you and IFBB. IFBB jumps on his back with a "you do know that was a war zone and that Hamas will surely kill those animals just to make the Israelis look bad". I mean, this is the caliber of you two's rhetoric. Think about it, do we even need to say that the Israeli army murdered more than 1,000 human beings in the Gaza strip during the past couple of months? Are we in a position to say, to insinuate! that the Israeli army is perfectly capable (meaning has all the necessary weapons) of killing a camel? Furthermore, is the killing of an innocent camel serious enough to "damage" something that has been damaged for many years?: Namely the image of the Israeli soldier. Does this even need to be said?
You, on the other hand, offer an even more stupid response: "I exposed the jihaddist". Hence whatever comes out of his mouth is not to be trusted. Liberalismo, once again, managed to come up with a sensible and neutral response, not siding with anyone aside from the camel's owner, and seeing rage more than jihaddism in his comments. You, on the other hand, the queen of the benefit of the doubt, jump on his back with a "The media has a duty to report what happened, unfortunately all they have for reference is one twisted jihadist." Only to retract later on with a "The above show jihadist aspirations." Thus, in your eyes, he is no longer a jihaddist (which is what you said at the beginning,) he only aspires to be one. Comical. Embarrassing. What can I say?
Worst of all is the fact that your islamophobia is so deep it does not allow you to see simple faults like you calling someone who just lost probably his most priced posesion (and most likely some family members during the past two months) a "jihaddist" without requiring a single thread of evidence aside from his enraged comments, while the Israeli army, or a soldier belonging to it, having the history and weaponry to wipe out the world three times over is, in your eyes, INCAPABLE of killing an innocent camel and therefore an "investigation" is the next logical step to let the "truth", YOUR "truth" mind you, come to light.
Do you now see your double standards?
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Nordic, must we revisit this all the time? Seriously.
Just on this thread, you're all over the board. I mean liberalismo managed to come up with what was, in my opinion, a very sceptical and "benign" (by my standards) response to you and IFBB. IFBB jumps on his back with a "you do know that was a war zone and that Hamas will surely kill those animals just to make the Israelis look bad". I mean, this is the caliber of you two's rhetoric. Think about it, do we even need to say that the Israeli army murdered more than 1,000 human beings in the Gaza strip during the past couple of months? Are we in a position to say, to insinuate! that the Israeli army is perfectly capable (meaning has all the necessary weapons) of killing a camel? Furthermore, is the killing of an innocent camel serious enough to "damage" something that has been damaged for many years?: Namely the image of the Israeli soldier. Does this even need to be said?
You, on the other hand, offer an even more stupid response: "I exposed the jihaddist". Hence whatever comes out of his mouth is not to be trusted. Liberalismo, once again, managed to come up with a sensible and neutral response, not siding with anyone aside from the camel's owner, and seeing rage more than jihaddism in his comments. You, on the other hand, the queen of the benefit of the doubt, jump on his back with a "The media has a duty to report what happened, unfortunately all they have for reference is one twisted jihadist." Only to retract later on with a "The above show jihadist aspirations." Thus, in your eyes, he is no longer a jihaddist (which is what you said at the beginning,) he only aspires to be one. Comical. Embarrassing. What can I say?
Worst of all is the fact that your islamophobia is so deep it does not allow you to see simple faults like you calling someone who just lost probably his most priced posesion (and most likely some family members during the past two months) a "jihaddist" without requiring a single thread of evidence aside from his enraged comments, while the Israeli army, or a soldier belonging to it, having the history and weaponry to wipe out the world three times over is, in your eyes, INCAPABLE of killing an innocent camel and therefore an "investigation" is the next logical step to let the "truth", YOUR "truth" mind you, come to light.
Do you now see your double standards?
Yawn....seriously....you need help.
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Yawn....seriously....you need help.
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Better yet:
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Nordic, must we revisit this all the time? Seriously.
Just on this thread, you're all over the board. I mean liberalismo managed to come up with what was, in my opinion, a very sceptical and "benign" (by my standards) response to you and IFBB. IFBB jumps on his back with a "you do know that was a war zone and that Hamas will surely kill those animals just to make the Israelis look bad". I mean, this is the caliber of you two's rhetoric. Think about it, do we even need to say that the Israeli army murdered more than 1,000 human beings in the Gaza strip during the past couple of months? Are we in a position to say, to insinuate! that the Israeli army is perfectly capable (meaning has all the necessary weapons) of killing a camel? Furthermore, is the killing of an innocent camel serious enough to "damage" something that has been damaged for many years?: Namely the image of the Israeli soldier. Does this even need to be said?
It was an incursion, war, it was not murder. Murder is Hamas using their own citizens as human shields. The very fact you claim the Israeli soldiers are murderers tells me where your mind is. Like I said, innocent until proven guilty. You're the one now jumping to the conclusion through your bias truth filter and determining the guilt of the Israeli army over that of human shield using Hamas militants.
You, on the other hand, offer an even more stupid response: "I exposed the jihaddist". Hence whatever comes out of his mouth is not to be trusted. Liberalismo, once again, managed to come up with a sensible and neutral response, not siding with anyone aside from the camel's owner, and seeing rage more than jihaddism in his comments. You, on the other hand, the queen of the benefit of the doubt, jump on his back with a "The media has a duty to report what happened, unfortunately all they have for reference is one twisted jihadist." Only to retract later on with a "The above show jihadist aspirations." Thus, in your eyes, he is no longer a jihaddist (which is what you said at the beginning,) he only aspires to be one. Comical. Embarrassing. What can I say?
Most Palestinians are jihadist, simply by virtue of electing a islamist organization to be their governmental representatives. If you think this single man's opinion is enough to hold up in court to declare the Israeli soldiers guilty, then you sir, are a clown.
Worst of all is the fact that your islamophobia is so deep it does not allow you to see simple faults like you calling someone who just lost probably his most priced posesion (and most likely some family members during the past two months) a "jihaddist" without requiring a single thread of evidence aside from his enraged comments, while the Israeli army, or a soldier belonging to it, having the history and weaponry to wipe out the world three times over is, in your eyes, INCAPABLE of killing an innocent camel and therefore an "investigation" is the next logical step to let the "truth", YOUR "truth" mind you, come to light.
Do you now see your double standards?
Haha, islamophobia. Nice use of a over used politically correct term. Islam has more than enough to scare a man who likes a free society and freedom for ALL. You're talking nonse also; show me the evidence his family members were killed - or as usual are you adding in some emotional falsehoods to give weight to this nonsense position? One moment you're tell me I'm seeing something incorrectly because of so-called-islamophobia only to go on to make an emotion induced assertion in the following words.
I didn't say the Israeli army isn't capable of killing a camel or a monkey. I said in this instance, there is NO evidence and there is a single real witness who is undoubtedly questionable. You're the one who wants everyone to believe in inherent Israeli guilt in every story like this.
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It was an incursion, war, it was not murder. Murder is Hamas using their own citizens as human shields. The very fact you claim the Israeli soldiers are murderers tells me where your mind is. Like I said, innocent until proven guilty. You're the one now jumping to the conclusion through your bias truth filter and determining the guilt of the Israeli army over that of human shield using Hamas militants.
Most Palestinians are jihadist, simply by virtue of electing a islamist organization to be their governmental representatives. If you think this single man's opinion is enough to hold up in court to declare the Israeli soldiers guilty, then you sir, are a clown.
Haha, islamophobia. Nice use of a over used politically correct term. Islam has more than enough to scare a man who likes a free society and freedom for ALL. You're talking nonse also; show me the evidence his family members were killed - or as usual are you adding in some emotional falsehoods to give weight to this nonsense position? One moment you're tell me I'm seeing something incorrectly because of so-called-islamophobia only to go on to make an emotion induced assertion in the following words.
I didn't say the Israeli army isn't capable of killing a camel or a monkey. I said in this instance, there is NO evidence and there is a single real witness who is undoubtedly questionable. You're the one who wants everyone to believe in inherent Israeli guilt in every story like this.
Nordic, read, stand back, let it sink in, understand.
You miss everyone's opposing point every single time.
You're letting your ego do the talking.
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Too many people defending the Jews.
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Too many people defending the Jews.
How are you today Adolf?
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Nordic, read, stand back, let it sink in, understand.
You miss everyone's opposing point every single time.
You're letting your ego do the talking.
No, you're letting your self righteousness do the talking.
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How are you today Adolf?
Just fine...Jamal.
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Just fine...Jamal.
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