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Title: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Balloon on February 08, 2009, 03:33:34 PM
I'm intrigued. Justin Harris used a "WidowMaker" excersise to transform his back.
He said that years of Heavy lifting left him with a thick back, but little width.

The extra width is the result of a modified seated cable row done in "widowmaker" fashion

Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 08, 2009, 03:34:17 PM
I'm intrigued. Justin Harris used a "WidowMaker" excersise to transform his back.
He said that years of Heavy lifting left him with a thick back, but little width.

The extra width is the result of a modified seated cable row done in "widomaker" fashion


Poor kid
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Wiggs on February 08, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
I'd like to see that exercise.  Great improvement! :)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Rich2 on February 08, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
can you explain what "widowmaker"-style cable row looks like?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Relentless on February 08, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
What was the time frame in between these two pictures?  I doubt one or two exercises is going to make that much of a difference.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Emmortal on February 08, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
I believe it's the one where you are almost in the bottom part of an SLDL position on a seated cable row and instead of sitting up and pulling back you stay in that position and essentially flare your lats contracting the weight.  David Henry does it as well in some of his videos.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on February 08, 2009, 03:57:57 PM
Justin's a really nice guy as well as extremely intelligent. Looking good, Justin ! You could damn near block the Sun out with that width ! Shit ! Any shows coming up, btw ?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 08, 2009, 04:00:15 PM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Relentless on February 08, 2009, 04:02:29 PM
Justin is a beast, no doubt about it. 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 08, 2009, 04:04:43 PM
Vince Gironda squats......frog squats.............there are tons of names for that type of movement.  People are good at rehashing shit that has been around forever. 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Jizzacked on February 08, 2009, 04:18:53 PM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\

no doubt, fuck that shit... makes my knees twinge just looking at that.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: body88 on February 08, 2009, 04:21:56 PM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\

Lol, fucking retards.  That should be called the knee-ender.  Some poeple are such tools.  Does that really make your quads better than a normal hack with perfect form?  Please.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2009, 04:24:40 PM
Lol, fucking retards.  That should be called the knee-ender.  Some poeple are such tools.  Does that really make your quads better than a normal hack with perfect form?  Please.
if i remember correctly, justin harris actually has a major, or a minor, in biomechanics. or something of that nature.   :)


anyway....   lets get real. after years of training , nobodies goign to make improvements like that in the back just by doing a new exercise.  maybe the widowmaker row helped, but, comeon... theres another much more important factor at work here.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 08, 2009, 04:24:56 PM
Cute kid.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on February 08, 2009, 04:26:08 PM
Cute kid.

SCHMOE!  ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 08, 2009, 04:29:21 PM
SCHMOE!  ;D

That is SOOO wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: 240 is Back on February 08, 2009, 04:30:17 PM
great back improvement.  crazy.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Devon97 on February 08, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
If you think a silly cable row is what made his back grow like that then your one dumb sum'bitch. :-\
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: kiwiol on February 08, 2009, 04:54:37 PM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\

That's just a sissy squat done on the hack squat machine. You can do the same movement on the Smith machine or standing on the ground, while holding a plate in one hand across the chest and using the other to hold on to a machine or equipment to keep your balance. As long as you only do a couple of sets and not have the exercise as your bread and butter movement for quads, your knees will be fine. Sissy squats are actually a great way to finish a leg workout.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Drama Queen on February 08, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
If you think a silly cable row is what made his back grow like that then your one dumb sum'bitch. :-\
QFT
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: TrueGrit on February 08, 2009, 05:15:22 PM



anyway....   lets get real. after years of training , nobodies goign to make improvements like that in the back just by doing a new exercise.  maybe the widowmaker row helped, but, comeon... theres another much more important factor at work here.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: GigantorX on February 08, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
if i remember correctly, justin harris actually has a major, or a minor, in biomechanics. or something of that nature.   :)


anyway....   lets get real. after years of training , nobodies goign to make improvements like that in the back just by doing a new exercise.  maybe the widowmaker row helped, but, comeon... theres another much more important factor at work here.

He is a lifetime natural, so what could it be?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 08, 2009, 05:29:25 PM
I'm still waiting to see the 'brown recluse lat pulldown' that onlyme's made famous over the years..
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: physicsgeek on February 08, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
That's just a sissy squat done on the hack squat machine. You can do the same movement standing on the ground, while holding a plate in one hand across the chest and using the other to hold on to a machine or equipment to keep your balance. As long as you only do a couple of sets and not have the exercise as your bread and butter movement for quads, your knees will be fine. Sissy squats are actually a great way to finish a leg workout.

I agree sissy squats are great. Little knee pressure at all. Look at the video he is on his toes changes the mechanics of the movement.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: body88 on February 08, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
if i remember correctly, justin harris actually has a major, or a minor, in biomechanics. or something of that nature.   :)


anyway....   lets get real. after years of training , nobodies goign to make improvements like that in the back just by doing a new exercise.  maybe the widowmaker row helped, but, comeon... theres another much more important factor at work here.


I know a lot of very smart people who do very stupid things.  The exercise shown above is lunacy at its finest.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: chris_mason on February 08, 2009, 06:11:54 PM
Platz used to do hacks like that.  He had some pretty good legs...
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: body88 on February 08, 2009, 06:17:37 PM
Platz used to do hacks like that.  He had some pretty good legs...

Yes, genetics will do that for you.  Lots of guys lift heavy, but few look like Ronnie Coleman.  Platz would still have had legendary legs if he only did squats and hammie curls.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: kiwiol on February 08, 2009, 06:21:01 PM
Look at the video he is on his toes changes the mechanics of the movement.

You ARE supposed to do the movement on your toes, so he isn't doing anything new or unusual

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-150-training/image001.jpg)

(http://www.hitbodybuilding.com/sissy%20squat-small.jpg)

(http://www.strengthtech.com/photos/haney96p/ssquat.jpg)

(http://www.mothernature.com/images/library/books/PeakCond/Sex7b.GIF)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: physicsgeek on February 08, 2009, 06:30:06 PM
You ARE supposed to do the movement on your toes, so he isn't doing anything new or unusual

(http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2008/08-150-training/image001.jpg)

(http://www.hitbodybuilding.com/sissy%20squat-small.jpg)

(http://www.strengthtech.com/photos/haney96p/ssquat.jpg)

(http://www.mothernature.com/images/library/books/PeakCond/Sex7b.GIF)

Lol I know you are suppose to. I was saying to people who thought it was a bad movement that it is not so bad.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 08, 2009, 06:32:58 PM
You ARE supposed to do the movement on your toes, so he isn't doing anything new or unusual


This is a "usual" exercise at your gym? Must be some serious wheels in that place! :o
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: kiwiol on February 08, 2009, 06:34:16 PM
Lol I know you are suppose to. I was saying to people who thought it was a bad movement that it is not so bad.

Haha my bad! I see how you meant it now.

This is a "usual" exercise at your gym? Must be some serious wheels in that place! :o

Never said it's a usual movement in my gym - I am probably the only guy who does it. And it's no different than any other exercise - doing it isn't going to give you legs that you could never have otherwise. Just saying that it's not a stupid exercise / ridiculous form like a lot of the guys who didn't know about it seem to think it is.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: philborg on February 08, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
why do so many fucktards think dc training is the be all end all of bodybuilding, it's not fucking magic, just train hard and heavy with decent form and eat a lot of good, clean food and you will build muscle.

Arnold and Franco didn't do all this widow maker, D umb C unt training and they seemed to do just fine
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on February 08, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
What was the time frame in between these two pictures?  I doubt one or two exercises is going to make that much of a difference.

2005 and a year and a half later in 2007......its an exercise I have people do called high pulls.
I do alot of weird exercises for people with lagging bodyparts (and i started to go into a very detailed description of all this lagging bodypart training and how I do it right here....and then I realized it was Getbig and noone probably really cares anyway and it would just get ripped on so why am I taking time to write it up....LOL)

For those that doubt it, take a look at the arms and legs.....look dramatically different to you? Now look at the back. Thats what we worked on. And I could do that to any person in this forum who has weak arms, chest, whatever it is......

You also have to understand Justin and I are friends and I listen to his advice and he listens to mine.....alot of ego's in this sport feel they are beyond "taking a new different approach"..... and I applaud Justin for listening to me on this.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: kiwiol on February 08, 2009, 07:06:06 PM
2005 and a year and a half later in 2007......its an exercise I have people do called high pulls.
I do alot of weird exercises for people with lagging bodyparts (and i started to go into a very detailed description of all this lagging bodypart training and how I do it right here....and then I realized it was Getbig and noone probably really cares anyway and it would just get ripped on so why am I taking time to write it up....LOL)

For those that doubt it, take a look at the arms and legs.....look dramatically different to you? Now look at the back. Thats what we worked on. And I could do that to any person in this forum who has weak arms, chest, whatever it is......

You also have to understand Justin and I are friends and I listen to his advice and he listens to mine.....alot of ego's in this sport feel they are beyond "taking a new different approach"..... and I applaud Justin for listening to me on this.

Terrific improvement on your back man, props. So am I right in understanding that you did a variation of the seated cable row where you were folded about your hips and did everything else the same? How is that much different from doing a lat pull down? Just curious. Please explain.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on February 08, 2009, 07:06:18 PM
why do so many fucktards think dc training is the be all end all of bodybuilding, it's not fucking magic, just train hard and heavy with decent form and eat a lot of good, clean food and you will build muscle.

Arnold and Franco didn't do all this widow maker, D umb C unt training and they seemed to do just fine

Totally agree.....and thats why I really want people to train the way they want to train....the best form of training there is for a person is something they enjoy doing and totally believe in.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on February 08, 2009, 07:07:26 PM
Terrific improvement on your back man, props. So am I right in understanding that you did a variation of the seated cable row where you were folded about your hips and did everything else the same? How is that much different from doing a lat pull down? Just curious. Please explain.

Let me see if I can find a youtube video of one of my trainee's doing it correctly....
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Balloon on February 08, 2009, 07:10:26 PM
Let me see if I can find a youtube video of one of my trainee's doing it correctly....
Hey man,

What is ur opinion on Calf training? All genetics?

Do u have genetically blessed calves?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on February 08, 2009, 07:19:50 PM
Let me see if I can find a youtube video of one of my trainee's doing it correctly....



Thats real close to what I like done.....the only thing I would change is I would like him to pause in the stretched position for 2 seconds and really push the stretch before pulling the rep over his knee's again.

I found something I wrote on it many years back....Ill cut and paste it.

Pulley row high pulls--this is going to be a pain in my ass to explain but lets see if i can do it--god its so much easier showing someone these in person. First up--do you know that position that is at the bottom of a stiff leg deadlift if you do it very deep (some people dont)--remember that position because that is key here ok?
Ok-Your on a seated cable row with a close grip parallel handle--your legs are slightly bent--your aiming for the greatest amount of stretch possible at the very beginning of the pull ok so remember that you should be in that "position" above or close to it (I talked about earlier) thruout this whole movement. With your back rounded and you leaning forward (huge stretch) you pull the handle to right about 3 inches above the kneecaps, thats it. At no point do you stick your chest out and arch your back and pull the handle into your midsection and sit straight up as in a seated pulley row, what you do instead is flare your lats at the stretch at the very beginning and keep your lats flared till you pull right over your kneecaps and then control the return to the stretch and repeat. Because your bent forward in a position that doesnt put your back in a precarious safety position you will have no worries with a rounded back. I guess a simple way i could describe it is
a)huge stretch at beginning
b)do half a pulley row movement but dont lean your torso backward or arch your back--keep it stabilized maybe only moving a few inches backwards the whole movement
c)keep your lats flared outwards the whole way thru and dont crunch your scapula together--pull with your lats and pull the handle 2-3 inches over your kneecaps and return.....you will not be using the weight you use on seated pulley rows so wipe that from your memory banks


I have people start out with 20-30 reps straight on this and then over months of time the weight goes up and up and up and you try to keep the reps up there but they will come down over time.....if you start out at 100 pounds for 20-30 reps and over months and months of time end up 8 months later at 250 pounds at 15-16 reps......your back is going to have a dramatic difference in width, trust me on that.....the war with your logbook will take care of that.

****Some peoples pulley row machines in their gyms dont allow them to go into the full stretch because the cable is too long, absolutey defeats the purpose if thats the case and I wouldnt even do it in that situation or i would try to modify where you hook the handle if you can.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2009, 07:25:15 PM
thats a neat idea...cool twist on the pulley rows...have to try that in a few days when i hit back again..
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: GigantorX on February 08, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
thats a neat idea...cool twist the dick inside you...have to try that in a few days when i hit my boyfriends asshole up again..

  :-X

At least you're honest.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Straw Man on February 08, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
wasn't Vince Gironda doing that like 40 years ago?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 08, 2009, 07:29:22 PM


b)do half a pulley row movement

In the link above, the guy does what looks to be full reps-certainly on the first couple. Do you really feel there is much of a difference, maybe you think it's OK to play with the style while doing the set as well?
Interesting exercise, as I'm doing back tomorrow, I'll give it a shot.
With the way you're leaning over, it looks pretty much near impossible to get a full ROM really- and yes I realize that goes against what the first part of this post is about.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: kiwiol on February 08, 2009, 07:32:08 PM


Interesting, and cool seeing a dog inside the gym. Do you attribute the whole improvement to this one exercise alone? I will give it a try sometime.

I also remember Charles Glass talking about training Dennis James way back in the 90s when DJ just broke out into the pro ranks. Charles wanted to increase his lat width and he made DJ do a variation of a barbell row, where he was prone and resting on an incline ab sit up and rowing the barbell to the top of his chest, with his elbows perpendicular to the torso and parallel to the ground at the highest point of the row. Wonder how that would compare with this exercise of yours.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: 20inch calves on February 08, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
Interesting, and cool seeing a dog inside the gym. Do you attribute the whole improvement to this one exercise alone? I will give it a try sometime.

I also remember Charles Glass talking about training Dennis James way back in the 90s when DJ just broke out into the pro ranks. Charles wanted to increase his lat width and he made DJ do a variation of a barbell row, where he was prone and resting on an incline ab sit up and rowing the barbell to the top of his chest, with his elbows perpendicular to the torso and parallel to the ground at the highest point of the row. Wonder how that would compare with this exercise of yours.


thats the POWERSTATION GYM in middletown ohio. thats where rich franklin workouts out at
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 08, 2009, 08:35:23 PM


That looks to be a much more effective and reasonable movement. Basically a close grip concentration pull down. Great way to stabilize the body and hit the lats/traps hard.


Points for originality.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: tommywishbone on February 08, 2009, 08:37:21 PM
A lot of people do a lot of different exercises. A lot of people also do a lot of other things. I'd like to type more, but I have a lot of things to do. 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on February 09, 2009, 03:42:41 AM
If I could afford to have you as my trainer, Doggcrapp ... believe me, I would !
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:48:19 AM
Justing Harris is probably one of the strongest bb,s ever
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 03:56:24 AM
And im defenetly trying that movement, I can tell if would fcontract he back like crazy.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Fatpanda on February 09, 2009, 04:03:01 AM
if i remember correctly, justin harris actually has a major, or a minor, in biomechanics. or something of that nature.   :)


anyway....   lets get real. after years of training , nobodies goign to make improvements like that in the back just by doing a new exercise.  maybe the widowmaker row helped, but, comeon... theres another much more important factor at work here.

QFT clearly he has discovered muscletech !

i'm not hating here dc, but surely he is also on higher dosages, has been pounding the protein down too for that year and a half. His erectors are bigger now too.

perhaps its simply this extra time and dosages that has had this effect rather than 100lb isolation rows  :-\
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: crownshep on February 09, 2009, 04:35:05 AM
I do these standing up,bent forward like in the bottom postion of the SLDL,and i use a V shaped triceps handle instead of the cable row handle.You get in incredible pump doing these.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Fatpanda on February 09, 2009, 04:42:56 AM
I do these standing up,bent forward like in the bottom postion of the SLDL,and i use a V shaped triceps handle instead of the cable row handle.You get in incredible pump doing these.

isn't that just a tbar row with the v handle - like ronnie does ?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: crownshep on February 09, 2009, 05:12:44 AM
isn't that just a tbar row with the v handle - like ronnie does ?
Imagine being in the bottom position of a SLDL,but instead of your arms being down near your feet,they are extended out.Stay in that position and just pull back.Using the V bar is like using a rope,i feel like i get less stress on my wrists compared to using a cable rowing handle.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 09, 2009, 05:36:57 AM
A lot of people do a lot of different exercises. A lot of people also do a lot of other things. I'd like to type more, but I have a lot of things to do. 

Deep....that's really deep, man.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 05:42:40 AM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\
Justin shits all over you strengthwise so it must be working.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2009, 05:46:39 AM
Just do some barbell rows... ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 05:48:04 AM
Just do some barbell rows... ::)
he does do bb rows and deadlifts and t bars, dude t bar rows more than you deadlift.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 09, 2009, 05:50:36 AM
Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\

Considering Justin Harris can do 405 for twenty (look it up on YouTube, probably another vid you can select from the one in your post too), and here he is doing a measly 135 on a Hack Squat machine, I doubt his knees or back are stressed too much.
Tom Platz used to do this version as well. Milos is an advocate of them, and I happen to like them too. But even though you've never heard of me, the first two guys happen to have some of the best pairs of legs in the business.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2009, 05:51:32 AM
he does do bb rows and deadlifts and t bars, dude t bar rows more than you deadlift.

I didnt ask how much he can "tbar" row.  ::)

I said generally stick to basic exersices than these bulllshit. and i was not refering to Justin Harris.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 05:52:03 AM
Considering Justin Harris can do 405 for twenty (look it up on YouTube, probably another vid you can select from the one in your post too), and here he is doing a measly 135 on a Hack Squat machine, I doubt his knees or back are stressed too much.
Tom Platz used to do this version as well. Milos is an advocate of them, and I happen to like them too. But even though you've never heard of me, the first two guys happen to have some of the best pairs of legs in the business.
yeah but "lift4size" squats 455 for sets of 4 so he knows what he's talking about. :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 09, 2009, 05:54:04 AM
yeah but "lift4size" squats 455 for sets of 4 so he knows what he's talking about. :D

I would still be happy with that.
Ooops, this is GetBig. Forgot where I'm at...I should say I was doing that at 14.5 years old, naturally and ass to the grass for depth.
Oh well, obla di, obla da, life goes on....
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 05:54:09 AM
Nice bacne.

Fuck widowmakers, he was upping the dosage.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Devon97 on February 09, 2009, 06:02:40 AM

I know a lot of very smart people who do very stupid things.  The exercise shown above is lunacy at its finest.

LOL yea but Body88,  He can squat 600 for 15 reps and wrote a Q&A on nutrition so he must know what he is doing!
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 06:04:17 AM
I didnt ask how much he can "tbar" row.  ::)

I said generally stick to basic exersices than these bulllshit. and i was not refering to Justin Harris.
judging by your missing lats maybe you should try some. :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Devon97 on February 09, 2009, 06:04:59 AM
Lol I know you are suppose to. I was saying to people who thought it was a bad movement that it is not so bad.

NO, it is VERY bad.

Justifing something as good just because a bunch of juice heads do it makes perfect sense.

Front squats are a far more effective way to train the quads.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2009, 06:17:16 AM
judging by your missing lats maybe you should try some. :D

Dude, you look like a FAT SHIT. Dont you understand youre exposed here?  ::)

Here are your pics. Go figure... ::)

youre probably internets no1 shitalker
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 06:19:44 AM
Dude, you look like a FAT SHIT. Dont you understand youre exposed here?  ::)

Here are your pics. Go figure... ::)

youre probably internets no1 shitalker
hahahahahhaa, sounds like someone is upset. ;D BTW, epic gap between your 14 inch arms and "torso".
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 09, 2009, 06:26:25 AM
So let me get this straight........QuakerOa ts is trying to own Mes_z's pic by criticizing his lats and "14" inch arms??????????? LMAO!  Only on getbig!  Quaker is that really you in those pics?  How can you even for a second compare yourself to Meso_z.  He's got a pretty jacked build in that pic. 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 09, 2009, 06:27:37 AM
I mean fuck man if you dieted down and actually gained some definition you'd lose any size you think you have.  Are you that clueless? 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 06:28:02 AM
So let me get this straight........QuakerOa ts is trying to own Mes_z's pic by criticizing his lats and "14" inch arms??????????? LMAO!  Only on getbig!  Quaker is that really you in those pics?  How can you even for a second compare yourself to Meso_z.  He's got a pretty jacked build in that pic. 
only the second pic is me.....................n ot criticizing his "build" BTW, just find it funny how the guy has something to say about the way a dude twice his size and muscle trains and he does it all the time. ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2009, 06:31:16 AM
So let me get this straight........QuakerOa ts is trying to own Mes_z's pic by criticizing his lats and "14" inch arms??????????? LMAO!  Only on getbig!  Quaker is that really you in those pics?  How can you even for a second compare yourself to Meso_z.  He's got a pretty jacked build in that pic. 

Yes thats him.

I dont know what the fuck is wrong with this guy.

He told me once "post a pic of yourself" - IMMEDIATELY i posted one, he was giving me props and stuff like that.

Now, whenever i argue with him he posts this pic (LIKE HE DOES WITH EVERYONE), pretending he "owns" me to embarassment. WTF.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Meso_z on February 09, 2009, 06:32:36 AM
only the second pic is me.....................n ot criticizing his "build" BTW, just find it funny how the guy has something to say about the way a dude twice his size and muscle trains and he does it all the time. ::)

I said i didnt refering straight to Justin Harris. Seems like you cant even read.

and thats you in the pics.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 06:35:42 AM
So let me get this straight........QuakerOa ts is trying to own Mes_z's pic by criticizing his lats and "14" inch arms??????????? LMAO!  Only on getbig!  Quaker is that really you in those pics?  How can you even for a second compare yourself to Meso_z.  He's got a pretty jacked build in that pic. 

QO is the most delusional human being in the world.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 06:39:40 AM
i can confirm that all those pictures are david mirza, the trailerpark persian

 ;D ;D ;D

Last week, he made fun of Tom Cruise for being a "skinny tweek", i guess he truly believes he is better than Cruise.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 09, 2009, 06:42:01 AM
;D ;D ;D

Last week, he made fun of Tom Cruise for being a "skinny tweek", i guess he truly believes he is better than Cruise.

the persian makes fun of everyone when his reality is a trailer , no job and an obese girlfriend. i am often amaze at who he attacks - rich people, thin people, people who look great .
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: toolarge4u on February 09, 2009, 06:45:20 AM
umm... that version of low row isnt something new lol. Been doing those since about 1994 lol and it certainly wasnt on the internet or some guru claiming it
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 06:46:08 AM
the persian makes fun of everyone when his reality is a trailer , no job and an obese girlfriend. i am often amaze at who he attacks - rich people, thin people, people who look great .

Well, if he was a realist, he could attack nobody, because even if you are fat, or poor or have an ugly girlfriend or whatever, there's few people on the board who are ALL that.

poor, fat, ugly gf, living in a trailer, delusional. Hard to top that.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: BIG_STI on February 09, 2009, 06:53:00 AM
yeah but "lift4size" squats 455 for sets of 4 so he knows what he's talking about. :D

Just like your 545 x6 right  ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 06:56:16 AM
Just like your 545 x6 right  ::)

Why, he was talking about the money he earned in the last 10 years besides welfare...

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Monster_Everything on February 09, 2009, 07:19:36 AM
So doggcrapp invented 'Sissy Squats' ??     ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 07:23:20 AM
hahahaha, check out the absolutely BRUTAL training that "donkeykong" is doing right now. ;D

The TRX Force bundle comes with the door anchor, you can put it up on every sturdy door. I use the bedroom door towards the hall.

(http://suspensionexercise.com/suspensionexercise/assets/images/products/trx_dooranchor.jpg)

(http://www.athomeworkoutsource.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/228859005_wkzsx-l.jpg)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 07:24:48 AM
hahahaha, check out the absolutely BRUTAL trainign that "donkeykong" is doing right now. ;D


So i bet you can do these without a problem, right?






QO, you don't know how much you just owned yourself, lol.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 07:26:13 AM
So i bet you can do these without a problem, right?




QO, you don't know how much you just owned yourself, lol.
don't know, i'm not gay. :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: TrueGrit on February 09, 2009, 07:26:40 AM
hahahaha, check out the absolutely BRUTAL training that "donkeykong" is doing right now. ;D


Donkey, is that you in the pics?
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 07:28:31 AM
don't know, i'm not gay. :D

bwahahaahahahaha, you're waaaaayyyyy to fat to be even able to get up to the position, let alone the fact that your trailer doesn't have a place to mount the TRX!

You would have to go outside on the trailerpark and everyone would laugh at the fat fuck wrestling with the TRX straps...
Better stay inside in front of your PC.

Donkey, is that you in the pics?

No.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: robins on February 09, 2009, 07:30:13 AM
I believe it's the one where you are almost in the bottom part of an SLDL position on a seated cable row and instead of sitting up and pulling back you stay in that position and essentially flare your lats contracting the weight.  David Henry does it as well in some of his videos.

actually i was watching it yesterday performed by Ron Harris

DC Training cable long rows
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 09, 2009, 07:40:17 AM
don't know, i'm not gay. :D

But yet you constantly ask MEN for photos?

"If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...."
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: CalvinH on February 09, 2009, 07:42:16 AM
bwahahaahahahaha, you're waaaaayyyyy to fat to be even able to get up to the position, let alone the fact that your trailer doesn't have a place to mount the TRX!

You would have to go outside on the trailerpark and everyone would laugh at the fat fuck wrestling with the TRX straps...
Better stay inside in front of your PC.

No.





I didn't know you played piano.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 08:27:23 AM




I didn't know you played piano.

lol, only for my gf Jezzebelle after drinking expensive italian wine with my BigMac.  ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DOGGCRAPP on February 09, 2009, 09:22:15 AM
umm... that version of low row isnt something new lol. Been doing those since about 1994 lol and it certainly wasnt on the internet or some guru claiming it

I am not claiming it. In fact I could have someone stand on one foot and lift milk cartons filled with sand while blowing bubbles with chewing gum and I wouldnt claim it because somebody somewhere probably did it before. Have you ever seen me (me personally) name an exercise after myself? Thats why I called it "high pulls"......I have no control what my trainee's call something I ask them to do. You got to give me a little more credit than that toolarge....I named myself Doggcrapp remember? Not exactly a marketing gem. I have people go to failure 3 times during sets of 11-20 reps and was too darn lazy to name it something else (and it looked kind of close to Rest Pauses which were a set of 6 single reps with 10 seconds between them).....so I named them "Restpauses" too not "DC reps".....trust me my ego is wrapped up in whether I can get that guy over there who is at a plateau up in size, not in any exercise named after me.....I called that "high pulls" and have always have
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: BIG_STI on February 09, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
With training like that "donkeykong" must be a 140lb beast.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 09, 2009, 09:43:41 AM
I am not claiming it. In fact I could have someone stand on one foot and lift milk cartons filled with sand while blowing bubbles with chewing gum and I wouldnt claim it because somebody somewhere probably did it before. Have you ever seen me (me personally) name an exercise after myself? Thats why I called it "high pulls"......I have no control what my trainee's call something I ask them to do. You got to give me a little more credit than that toolarge....I named myself Doggcrapp remember? Not exactly a marketing gem. I have people go to failure 3 times during sets of 11-20 reps and was too darn lazy to name it something else (and it looked kind of close to Rest Pauses which were a set of 6 single reps with 10 seconds between them).....so I named them "Restpauses" too not "DC reps".....trust me my ego is wrapped up in whether I can get that guy over there who is at a plateau up in size, not in any exercise named after me.....I called that "high pulls" and have always have

Well said DC, i like to fuck with you occasionally saying shit like "Didn't you know DC invented the tricep?" but in reality i think you are a very knowledgeable dude who is one of the few who made his passion his living. Which is why a lot of people hate on you :P
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 09:45:27 AM
Well said DC, i like to fuck with you occasionally saying shit like "Didn't you know DC invented the tricep?" but in reality i think you are a very knowledgeable dude who is one of the few who made his passion his living. Which is why a lot of people hate on you :P

Truth is that hater wanna hate and lover wanna love, but I dont want none of the above I want to
... Pee on you, Yes I do yes I do I pee on youuuu
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: toolarge4u on February 09, 2009, 12:03:42 PM
I am not claiming it. In fact I could have someone stand on one foot and lift milk cartons filled with sand while blowing bubbles with chewing gum and I wouldnt claim it because somebody somewhere probably did it before. Have you ever seen me (me personally) name an exercise after myself? Thats why I called it "high pulls"......I have no control what my trainee's call something I ask them to do. You got to give me a little more credit than that toolarge....I named myself Doggcrapp remember? Not exactly a marketing gem. I have people go to failure 3 times during sets of 11-20 reps and was too darn lazy to name it something else (and it looked kind of close to Rest Pauses which were a set of 6 single reps with 10 seconds between them).....so I named them "Restpauses" too not "DC reps".....trust me my ego is wrapped up in whether I can get that guy over there who is at a plateau up in size, not in any exercise named after me.....I called that "high pulls" and have always have

that wasnt directed at you big man, sorry about that. I meant it more as in whys everyone saying its his, when you yourself dont..  I wasnt awake yet when i posted
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Smages on February 09, 2009, 12:08:59 PM
Dante, do you have a variation that you would do to bring up someone's chest? Thanks
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:25:36 PM
yeah but "lift4size" squats 455 for sets of 4 so he knows what he's talking about. :D

Im honest bro but thats nothing when your everyday trailer dweller can hit 500x5 like it aint no thang! ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:27:09 PM
Im honest bro but thats nothing when your everyday trailer dweller can hit 500x5 like it aint no thang! ;D
hahahaha, ok "big fella" 300 pounds and inclining 225 with bands, what a MONSTER!! ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:29:04 PM
hahahaha, ok "big fella" 300 pounds and inclining 225 with bands, what a MONSTER!! ;D

Jealous much? 8)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The Ugly on February 09, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
I am not claiming it. In fact I could have someone stand on one foot and lift milk cartons filled with sand while blowing bubbles with chewing gum and I wouldnt claim it because somebody somewhere probably did it before. Have you ever seen me (me personally) name an exercise after myself? Thats why I called it "high pulls"......I have no control what my trainee's call something I ask them to do. You got to give me a little more credit than that toolarge....I named myself Doggcrapp remember? Not exactly a marketing gem. I have people go to failure 3 times during sets of 11-20 reps and was too darn lazy to name it something else (and it looked kind of close to Rest Pauses which were a set of 6 single reps with 10 seconds between them).....so I named them "Restpauses" too not "DC reps".....trust me my ego is wrapped up in whether I can get that guy over there who is at a plateau up in size, not in any exercise named after me.....I called that "high pulls" and have always have

I like this guy.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
Jealous much? 8)
of what? your 14 inch arms and 58 inch waist? that's exactly what they looked like on your infamous "Hooters girl" press video. :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:35:32 PM
of what? your 14 inch arms and 58 inch waist? that's exactly what they looked like on your infamous "Hooters girl" press video. :D

They didnt make you drool and fantasize like all the oiled up men you "critique" day to day? :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:36:36 PM
They didnt make you drool and fantasize like all the oiled up men you "critique" day to day? :D
you mean the same board that you're on right now doing the same thing? :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:37:56 PM
you mean the same board that you're on right now doing the same thing? :D

I came for teh funny. Now make with it! >:(
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:38:33 PM
I came for teh funny. Now make with it! >:(
look down at your stomach for the funny. :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
look down at your stomach for the funny. :D

I just look at your pics to get a laugh "big guy."
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
I just look at your pics to get a laugh "big guy."
hahahhaa, ok "lift4size" have fun crippling yourself for the 2.50 trophy for 9th place in the superheavies of your next local strongman show. ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:52:15 PM
hahahhaa, ok "lift4size" have fun crippling yourself for the 2.50 trophy for 9th place in the superheavies of your next local strongman show. ;D

2.5 trophy? Anyway, what is it you do again?


Perhaps, rather than naming my weak lifts, you would care to entertain us with your "glory days" stories of how you once flipped a 600lb tire and carried 225/hand farmers for several steps?  ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:54:07 PM
2.5 trophy? Anyway, what is it you do again?


Perhaps, rather than naming my weak lifts, you would care to entertain us with your "glory days" stories of how you once flipped a 600lb tire and carried 225/hand farmers for several steps?  ::)
hahahahaa, check out this workout by the mega "strongman" "lift4size", what an ANIMAL!!! :o ;D

Sorry Zach I forgot it was upper body day. I will be using some of those movements tomorrow though.

Tuesday - Upper Body Speed

15 mins stretching and rolling

Standing OHP
bar x 50reps
2x10x135
8x3x155 plus red bands

Overhead Ext
2x10x135

Single Arm OH Cable Ext
1x12x50 ea
1x10x100 ea

One Arm Cable Concentration Curl
2x10x100 ea

Rope Cable Curl
2x10xstack

Decline Hammer Strength ss w/ DB side laterals
2x10x360                              2x10x45's
 
Weighted Crunches
2x12xtwo plates

Bodyweight Phys Ball Squats
1x20 felt REALLY good and solid, slight tingle in bad leg

10 mins stretching

Good day! Went back down nice and low due to my intermittent workouts and injuries. Felt good to "deload." Wrapped my leg with an ACE bandage and threw on compression shorts before the gym. I was SOOOOOO tempted to see if my leg could take any weight, other than mine alone, but I held out. Tomorrow I will be stretching and doing the back movements that everyone suggested in the training board.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on February 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM
hahahahaa, check out this workout by the mega "strongman" "lift4size", what an ANIMAL!!! :o ;D


Where are your lifts quakerfatass? ??? ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 12:58:12 PM
Where are your lifts quakerfatass? ??? ::)
not as brutal as this huge monsters. :o ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 12:59:16 PM
How can YOU expect to embarrass me? BWAHAHAHA! I've told you before and I'll tell you again, Im better than you have ever been or ever will be. Accept it and move on. Unless of course you want to prove me wrong?


Didnt think so. ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
How can YOU expect to embarrass me? BWAHAHAHA! I've told you before and I'll tell you again, Im better than you have ever been or ever will be. Accept it and move on. Unless of course you want to prove me wrong?


Didnt think so. ;D
hahahahahaa, your lifts are pathetic for a 305 pound "strongman". :D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 01:03:59 PM
hahahahahaa, your lifts are pathetic for a 305 pound "strongman". :D

Im an amateur. Only been doing this 2 years and it can take a lifetime to become a pro if you choose not to use gear. Perhaps you think you could beat me in ANY event if I got down to your weight? What is that a svelte 270? ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: pumphard on February 09, 2009, 01:05:11 PM
How Quaker Oats (squadfather) took the pic:

he needs to have the sun and the clouds situated at the right angle to reflect against his mom's bungalow's one bedroom window, his mom's handwashing basket creating extra shadowing, the dirty window distorting the pic, the mobile phone in the ready position blocking 3 of his chins, his mom's salvation army reject striped dress to cover his bitch titties and spare truck tyre and his chubby arm pressed tightly against his mammory to push the cellulite out.

if this is all coordinated properly and the internet cafe is closed for cleaning, only then can the mighty scottfatter post a pic.


Can't take credit for that one, classic nevertheless
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 01:05:29 PM
Im an amateur. Only been doing this 2 years and it can take a lifetime to become a pro if you choose not to use gear. Perhaps you think you could beat me in ANY event if I got down to your weight? What is that a svelte 270? ::)
i'm 240.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 01:08:19 PM
i'm 240.

 ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: QuakerOats on February 09, 2009, 01:09:18 PM
::)
i'll take a picture of the readout on the digital scale tomorrow at the gym.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: CalvinH on February 09, 2009, 01:11:06 PM
i'll take a picture of the readout on the digital scale tomorrow at the gym.




Better starve yourself till then ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
i'll take a picture of the readout on the digital scale tomorrow at the gym.

Im sure it will be crystal clear and have some sort of "evidence" that its you. I dont want a picture of you, much less one on a scale. Save it for someone who cares. ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on February 09, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
Im sure it will be crystal clear and have some sort of "evidence" that its you. I dont want a picture of you, much less one on a scale. Save it for someone who cares. ;D

So obv fat boy is gonna bring in 240 lbs. of plates from the weight room, bring them into the locker room, put them on the scale and take the picture

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: delta9mda on February 09, 2009, 01:19:35 PM


Widow Maker hack squat. Looks like some dangerous bullshit. :-\
looks like weighted sissy squats.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Stubborn on February 09, 2009, 01:24:23 PM
looks like weighted sissy squats.

Yeah, it does. Just doesnt seem necessary to me. But hey whatever gets you where you're going.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: JasonH on February 09, 2009, 01:26:28 PM
Those cable rows look interesting - I've got a very weak upper mid back in terms of thickness and so I might give them a go - it might just be the thing to hit the spot. Might get some strange looks in the gym though.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: spinnis on February 09, 2009, 01:27:17 PM
not as brutal as this huge monsters. :o ;D

he looks great in that photo.

Once again I dont understand your point.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 09, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Those cable rows look interesting - I've got a very weak upper mid back in terms of thickness and so I might give them a go - it might just be the thing to hit the spot. Might get some strange looks in the gym though.

I was thinking the same thing.  I wonder how long before someone corrects my form...haha 
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: flagadajones on February 09, 2009, 02:13:32 PM
Poor kid

truest and deepest statement has never been made on here.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: aussiepro on February 09, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
hahah quaker is a fat shit , i love when ppl rip on him.. hahahah fatty
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 09, 2009, 04:44:50 PM
only the second pic is me.....................n ot criticizing his "build" BTW, just find it funny how the guy has something to say about the way a dude twice his size and muscle trains and he does it all the time. ::)

Ok cause the second pic you've got some brick shit  house size under that chub.  But those other pics.  ;D
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Cap on February 09, 2009, 04:59:21 PM
Those cable rows look interesting - I've got a very weak upper mid back in terms of thickness and so I might give them a go - it might just be the thing to hit the spot. Might get some strange looks in the gym though.
I did today.  It's weird at first but you def feel it.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: YoungBlood on February 09, 2009, 05:33:40 PM
I did today.  It's weird at first but you def feel it.

I tried them out too. I was doing a heavier day than higher reps, so I didn't burn them out like a widowmaker set (I do not follow DC training). But I did 10 reps with a lighter weight, and while it was seemingly easier than usual, my lats definitely felt like they've been hit/stressed harder.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on February 09, 2009, 05:38:04 PM
I'm going to have to give this a shot tomorrow.
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: DK II on February 09, 2009, 11:54:07 PM
With training like that "donkeykong" must be a 140lb beast.

Yes, like all the gay Navy SeALs and Green Beret pussies that this training method/program was intended for.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Doggcrapp transformation
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 10, 2009, 09:21:39 PM
Yes, like all the gay Navy SeALs and Green Beret pussies that this training method/program was intended for.  ::) ::)

LOL, I like some of the dogcrapp philosophies, I use a modified version of the doggcrapp program, I think it works great. I just wouldn't suggest it to someone that's not on gear as your body does take a toll.