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Title: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 12:16:55 AM
Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.) applauded President Obama’s announced salary cap for employees of companies receiving federal bailout money, but said it doesn’t go far enough. He says he’s crafting legislation that would extend the $500,000 maximum to every business in the United States.

“There’s no good reason why any of these corporate fat cats should be making more than $500,000 a year,” said Frank. “That’s way more money than they need or deserve.”

Frank shrugged off the notion that the free market should determine compensation levels. “The free market is okay, up to a point,” Frank allowed. “But when some take too much from the common pot, it’s congress’ job to step in to ensure a fair share for all.”

The congressman pooh-poohed the arguments that superior performance warrants superior rewards or that a salary cap could result in a “brain drain.” “Running a company can’t be any harder than running the country,” he contended. “And the president only gets paid $400,000 a year. So, I’d say $500,000 is enough for any honest man. Anyone who’d leave America because he can’t make more is too greedy. Good riddance if they leave.”

Frank’s bill exempts the multimillion dollar payouts made to lawyers, professional athletes and movie stars because “these are not salaries, but performance payments. We cannot let inadequate compensation stand in the way of achieving justice,” Frank argued. “Neither can we short those who play a vital role in boosting the common people’s morale by diverting their attentions from everyday troubles.”

It's starting folks...
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 04:22:53 AM
We all warned everybody. 
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: MRDUMPLING on February 10, 2009, 06:46:42 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!   :o  I thought Pelosi was bad. 
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 06:48:48 AM
lol is this real, or an onion story?  hahaha link please
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 06:59:28 AM
lol is this real, or an onion story?  hahaha link please

It's funny
a. you have to ask if this is real
b. this is on almost no news network
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 07:00:34 AM
It was satire....more from the same guy.


President Obama has asked the U.S. Department of Energy to tighten up regulations aimed at discouraging wasteful use of energy. Measures under consideration include remote thermostat monitoring, higher taxes on fuel, and an “energy-saver-of-the-month” lottery.

“Too many people are frivolously consuming an excessive quantity of this precious resource,” Obama lamented. “We need better incentives to deter unnecessary use. The certain knowledge that the government will be checking on your electricity bill, a higher price at the gas pump, or the chance to have your name drawn for a large cash prize could modify behavior in the right direction.”

“It’s not so hard to save energy,” Obama continued. “For example, instead of firing up the oven to cook a meal you could go out for sushi. Michelle, the kids and I have often done this. We saved even more energy by carpooling to the restaurant.”

In related news, Obama rebuffed criticism of the high thermostat settings in the White House since he took office as “racist.” “With roots in Africa and an upbringing in balmy Indonesia and Hawaii, I need warmer temperatures,” the President insisted, explaining that Illinois’ cold climate was largely responsible for all those “present votes.” “I was too cold to lift a finger. So the Sergeant-at-Arms merely recorded me ‘present,’” he said.



Ex-President Carter Urges Obama to Trust Hamas

Former president Jimmy Carter has urged President Obama to “trust Hamas if he wants to make progress in settling the Palestinian issue.”

“Hamas has suffered a bad press in this country,” Carter alleged. “All we hear about is how Hamas is killing Jews in Israel. Has anyone stopped to consider whether they have good reasons for this?”

“They are not the indiscriminate murderers that Israeli politicians would have you believe,” Carter insisted. “They have had many opportunities to take me hostage or kill me, but they never did. I think this demonstrates a capacity for constraint that few give them credit for.”



Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Grape Ape on February 10, 2009, 07:01:06 AM
This is at such a level of absurdity it can't be real.  If it is, Frank will do so much damage to his party it's not even funny.

Actually, it would be kind of funny.  But it can't be real.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: MRDUMPLING on February 10, 2009, 07:03:19 AM
Please tell me this was a joke HH6.  "Racist" for criticism of his hypocracy?  Wow...
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 07:06:11 AM
Its a joke....I googled the first line and came up with the guy  who did it...he's very funny. For the record, I almost had a heart attack. Is this really outside the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 07:07:02 AM
Its a joke....I googled the first line and came up with the guy  who did it...he's very funny. For the record, I almost had a heart attack. Is this really outside the realm of possibility.

i think the fact that we are even discussing it as a possible reality says enough.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:08:35 AM
i think the fact that we are even discussing it as a possible reality says enough.

It isn't a joke dude

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090203/REG/902039977/1003/TOC&template=printart
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 07:11:26 AM
The articles are different....but its the slippery slope. Frank is responsible for the housing mess, he's a dirtbag lib and worthless.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:13:04 AM
The articles are different....but its the slippery slope. Frank is responsible for the housing mess, he's a dirtbag lib and worthless.

Dude its only on small blogs, it hasn't made it to any major news network.  That is fucking scary.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 10, 2009, 07:14:39 AM
Representative Barney Frank (D-Mass.) applauded President Obama’s announced salary cap for employees of companies receiving federal bailout money, but said it doesn’t go far enough. He says he’s crafting legislation that would extend the $500,000 maximum to every business in the United States.

“There’s no good reason why any of these corporate fat cats should be making more than $500,000 a year,” said Frank. “That’s way more money than they need or deserve.”

Frank shrugged off the notion that the free market should determine compensation levels. “The free market is okay, up to a point,” Frank allowed. “But when some take too much from the common pot, it’s congress’ job to step in to ensure a fair share for all.”

The congressman pooh-poohed the arguments that superior performance warrants superior rewards or that a salary cap could result in a “brain drain.” “Running a company can’t be any harder than running the country,” he contended. “And the president only gets paid $400,000 a year. So, I’d say $500,000 is enough for any honest man. Anyone who’d leave America because he can’t make more is too greedy. Good riddance if they leave.”

Frank’s bill exempts the multimillion dollar payouts made to lawyers, professional athletes and movie stars because “these are not salaries, but performance payments. We cannot let inadequate compensation stand in the way of achieving justice,” Frank argued. “Neither can we short those who play a vital role in boosting the common people’s morale by diverting their attentions from everyday troubles.”

It's starting folks...

Barney Frank and his gay lover Gobi who ran a pedophile ring right out of his home in Massachusetts's is THE LAST PERSON I WANT TO HEAR FROM OR WOULD LISTEN TO....The nerve to say to ANYONE what they should and should not do or suggest to anyone what is right or wrong is unbelievable. This guy was caught in the act of sodomizing children and giving parties where children were doled out to freaks to molest/sodomize. When I saw him speaking in regards to TARP funds and giving opinions on economic steps I almost threw up. Why is this perv even in congress?

Now I will agree that these ridiculous salaries and bonuses need to END IMMEDIATELY. So far as these companies that receive bailout...In order to receive the bailout the ENTIRE EXECUTIVE STAFF AND BOARD MUST BE TERMINATED IMMEDIATELY. And the company comes under the control of the government for a period of time until investigations can be done to find out how deep the RABBIT HOLE does go and what can be done to correct the financial problem and install new (hopefully) HONEST STAFF, BOARDS, and EXECS. Otherwise the same greed, fraud, laundering and corruption will continue.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:14:46 AM
Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”

http://www.wordforge.net/showthread.php?t=71764
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 07:15:53 AM
Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”

http://www.wordforge.net/showthread.php?t=71764

Notice how all the cult followers are completely AWOL on what is going on now???
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Grape Ape on February 10, 2009, 07:27:37 AM
Notice how all the cult followers are completely AWOL on what is going on now???

It's not just here.

I don't see any of these people anywhere who were sooooo loyal to Obama out there defending this stuff.

WHere's fucking Matt Damon telling us the benefits of this plan?   Nowhere, because he has no fucking clue about.  All he knew was the "I hate Bush" mantra.   These people are as deep as a puddle.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 07:34:48 AM
Its even on Drudge now. 

I faxed the article to all the Senators I could get a fax number for.  I tried calling but all the lines are busy.

I am not a sheep, but a rebel.  I am not going down silent. 

Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:40:59 AM
Its even on Drudge now. 

I faxed the article to all the Senators I could get a fax number for.  I tried calling but all the lines are busy.

I am not a sheep, but a rebel.  I am not going down silent. 



You are a very honorable man.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 07:41:51 AM
link to the Frank quote from drudge?

After drudge leaked the "A black guy Scratched a B into my face" girl's pics and story - straight from mccain campaign BEFORE police even repeased a report - I prefer to hear it from another source.

Please link us to this quote you posted, exactly.  thanks!


"The congressman pooh-poohed the arguments that superior performance warrants superior rewards or that a salary cap could result in a “brain drain.” “Running a company can’t be any harder than running the country,” he contended. “And the president only gets paid $400,000 a year. So, I’d say $500,000 is enough for any honest man. Anyone who’d leave America because he can’t make more is too greedy. Good riddance if they leave.”

Frank’s bill exempts the multimillion dollar payouts made to lawyers, professional athletes and movie stars because “these are not salaries, but performance payments. We cannot let inadequate compensation stand in the way of achieving justice,” Frank argued. “Neither can we short those who play a vital role in boosting the common people’s morale by diverting their attentions from everyday troubles.”
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:48:09 AM
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2181990/posts

link to the Frank quote from drudge?

After drudge leaked the "A black guy Scratched a B into my face" girl's pics and story - straight from mccain campaign BEFORE police even repeased a report - I prefer to hear it from another source.

Please link us to this quote you posted, exactly.  thanks!


"The congressman pooh-poohed the arguments that superior performance warrants superior rewards or that a salary cap could result in a “brain drain.” “Running a company can’t be any harder than running the country,” he contended. “And the president only gets paid $400,000 a year. So, I’d say $500,000 is enough for any honest man. Anyone who’d leave America because he can’t make more is too greedy. Good riddance if they leave.”

Frank’s bill exempts the multimillion dollar payouts made to lawyers, professional athletes and movie stars because “these are not salaries, but performance payments. We cannot let inadequate compensation stand in the way of achieving justice,” Frank argued. “Neither can we short those who play a vital role in boosting the common people’s morale by diverting their attentions from everyday troubles.”

Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 07:49:32 AM
LOLOLOLOL Free republic?

Dude, the freepers are notorious for their CTers and 'libs will cause the end of world' stuff.

Freepers?  REALLY?

Come on dude, link me to a credible news source.  FOX news should be all over this. 
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 07:50:23 AM
You are a very honorable man.


At least I can say I tried.

I will not go down like the lowly Jews did in Nazi Germany.  

I will be more like the Italian guy who was killed by the Taliban.  His name was Quatrocchi.

Screw Obama.  He is a communist like I said early on.  

  
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 07:52:06 AM
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2181990/posts


When I take your link, I see the 'freepers' sourced their info from
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm

"JOHN SEMMENS: Semi-News -- A Satirical Look at Recent News"



Yes, that word 'satire' makes me think my original guess of the Onion was not taht far off.  You're citing Drudge.  when pressed, you deliver Free republic, a CT right-wing blog.
Their source is a right-wing political satirist.  


This story is false.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 07:53:47 AM
LOLOLOLOL Free republic?

Dude, the freepers are notorious for their CTers and 'libs will cause the end of world' stuff.

Freepers?  REALLY?

Come on dude, link me to a credible news source.  FOX news should be all over this. 

DUDE geithner said they were playing with the idea in another post...

here is the quote

Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”

From this website

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090203/REG/902039977/1003/TOC&template=printart
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 07:54:08 AM
You still have been completely silent about the article from Bloomberg I posted.

Face it, your hero is the communist and slave master we said he was.  
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 07:58:42 AM
DUDE geithner said they were playing with the idea in another post...

here is the quote

Mr. Geithner said he would consider “extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.”

From this website

http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090203/REG/902039977/1003/TOC&template=printart

Okay.  This is a new article.  We're mixing satire, quotes, and "suppose this and this coudl happen".  That just leads to terrible debate.  We have 4 links now - 3 are fake stories and 1 is a 'maybe this could happen one day'. 

I much prefer news not designed to be funny or misleading.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 08:02:04 AM
Okay.  This is a new article.  We're mixing satire, quotes, and "suppose this and this coudl happen".  That just leads to terrible debate.  We have 4 links now - 3 are fake stories and 1 is a 'maybe this could happen one day'. 

I much prefer news not designed to be funny or misleading.

You can't be serious.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 08:05:08 AM
Okay.  This is a new article.  We're mixing satire, quotes, and "suppose this and this coudl happen".  That just leads to terrible debate.  We have 4 links now - 3 are fake stories and 1 is a 'maybe this could happen one day'. 

I much prefer news not designed to be funny or misleading.

Dude, you have been so owned over the past three weeks its not even funny. 

Your slave master Obama has you on hand and knee begging for crumbs.  Its embarassing.

Face it, we were right about him, and you were wrong.     
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 08:06:05 AM
Geithner may extend TARP curb on executive-pay deduction to all U.S. companies
Posted On: Jan. 23, 2009 4:36 PM CST
Neil Roland, Financial Week

WASHINGTON—Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner said he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits banks getting bailout money from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive.

The Troubled Assets Relief Program legislation enacted in October seeks to give companies receiving federal aid under the $700 billion rescue a number of incentives to curb what it calls excessive executive compensation.

Mr. Geithner, whose nomination was confirmed by the Senate Finance Committee and still has to be voted on by the full Senate, said he would consider "extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally."

He added that he also would consider extending to all U.S. companies "other rules beyond those potentially in effect."

http://www.businessinsurance.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=15122
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 08:09:22 AM
240 is on the ropes.  His hero is being proven after 3 weeks to be the fraud we said he is.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 08:26:33 AM
240 is on the ropes.  His hero is being proven after 3 weeks to be the fraud we said he is.

???

I voted libertarian.  You voted Palin.  ;)
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 08:27:25 AM
???

I voted libertarian.  You voted Palin.  ;)

You defend Marxist ZERO on a daily basis. 

BTW - I am proud of voting for Palin and would so so again if given the choice. 
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 08:34:02 AM
240 is on the ropes.  His hero is being proven after 3 weeks to be the fraud we said he is.

I'm a little confused on this one.

he's a fraud because he's attempting to create 3-4 million jobs?
There are a lot of broke ppl right now.  giving them a chance to work is a good thing.

You must be rich, and you'd prefer more tax cuts for people with a million in the bank?

Obama is in my city today because we have 10%+ unemployment (with 16+% inland in hendry county) and are leading the nation in foreclosure rate.  I live in a depression area. 

If a "fraud" can fix this, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 10, 2009, 08:36:22 AM
I'm a little confused on this one.

he's a fraud because he's attempting to create 3-4 million jobs?
There are a lot of broke ppl right now.  giving them a chance to work is a good thing.

You must be rich, and you'd prefer more tax cuts for people with a million in the bank?

Obama is in my city today because we have 10%+ unemployment (with 16+% inland in hendry county) and are leading the nation in foreclosure rate.  I live in a depression area. 

If a "fraud" can fix this, I'm all for it.

Rob, I have always been respectful of your posts but on this, would you please shut the fvck up.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 08:37:19 AM
I'm a little confused on this one.

he's a fraud because he's attempting to create 3-4 million jobs?
There are a lot of broke ppl right now.  giving them a chance to work is a good thing.

You must be rich, and you'd prefer more tax cuts for people with a million in the bank?

Obama is in my city today because we have 10%+ unemployment (with 16+% inland in hendry county) and are leading the nation in foreclosure rate.  I live in a depression area. 

If a "fraud" can fix this, I'm all for it.

You can't spend your way out of a recession.  The government cant offer jobs and get us out.  Have you heard of the "new deal" or FDR?

Your memory is very short dude.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2009, 08:37:33 AM
My God are you retarted.

He is not trying shit.  He is sending money to states to shore up their own finances, intruding on doctors, and giving people a few crumbs at tax season.

Get real fool.  
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 09:11:49 AM
Not to mention the fact that we have a great example from Japan...they tried this and id was worthless. Good job Barry. We have the worst possible combination of JFK and Carter in this guy. Naive and an appeaser. Obama has the balls of a dove.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2009, 10:40:10 AM
He is not trying shit.  He is sending money to states to shore up their own finances,

Yes.  FL paid way more than they received in terms of federal dollars for years.

So now that they're in a jam, Crist wants some $ back.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 10:49:10 AM
My mom lives down the road in Naples...alot of the FT Myers folks are the people that support the rich ones in Naples. They cut grass, work in resturants, and do all the blue collar jobs.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Butterbean on February 10, 2009, 10:55:35 AM
My mom lives down the road in Naples...alot of the FT Myers folks are the people that support the rich ones in Naples. They cut grass, work in resturants, and do all the blue collar jobs.
An outdoor blue collar job in Naples would be great imo.

HH6, ask your mom if she's ever eaten at Pastrami Dans
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 10:58:49 AM
I will....
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 10, 2009, 11:29:28 AM
good idea. sorry.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Dos Equis on February 10, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
Absolutely outrageous socialist crap.  Trying to cap compensation for bailout recipients is bad enough, but extending to all private companies?  To quote my kids, this is "retarded."  ::) 
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: Hedgehog on February 10, 2009, 12:46:59 PM
So is the original story just some bullshit propaganda, trying to further spin hate towards Barney Frank?

If this is the case, that's the big deal here.

Just like with several of the Sarah Palin stories that took shots at her character, some of them turned out to be completely false.

This is just fcuking bullshit.

Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2009, 02:30:38 PM
No hedge...the first post is BS or just taken a step too far. The actual nugget of truth about capping all pay...well they said it and the link is provided somewhere in there. As far as Pallin...it was all bullshit and I'm glad u mentioned it.
Title: Re: I was right...
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 10, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
So is the original story just some bullshit propaganda, trying to further spin hate towards Barney Frank?

If this is the case, that's the big deal here.

Just like with several of the Sarah Palin stories that took shots at her character, some of them turned out to be completely false.

This is just fcuking bullshit.



I completely apologize for my first post.  I was very very tired when I posted it and didn't read all of it.  I truly am sorry guys, but there is some legit truth here.

Vinnie