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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: LatsMcGee on February 10, 2009, 05:18:50 AM
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Everybody toss out your steak and eggs and replace it with pop tarts.
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??? ::)
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no, if you read any of my posts, i said dont eat junk processed food. I said eat tons of CLEAN COMPLEX CARBS.
And you definitely need tons of protein, but no more than .8-1g per lb bw.
The sad thing is, the only way you know about protein is from what you read in a muscle mag, not from Ph.D's or a library like me.
And if in fact you know so much, why dont you go into some scientific details about how protein, carbs, fat is utilized in the body?
this involves science tho.... so you probably wanna stay out of it.
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this thread is bannanas! :o
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no, if you read any of my posts, i said dont eat junk processed food. I said eat tons of CLEAN COMPLEX CARBS.
And you definitely need tons of protein, but no more than .8-1g per lb bw.
And if in fact you know so much, why dont you go into some scientific details about how protein, carbs, fat is utilized in the body?
this involves science tho.... so you probably wanna stay out of it.
The only science in your threads is the word science itself. All you do is say how inconvienent it is to eat so much protein. There's more legit science to prove the value of proteins and fats in your diet than carbohydrates. Weston A Price owns you.
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Maybe coonsack doesn't need to eat that much protein because he gets his from other sources...
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Maby we have a new Palumbo on our hands?
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so, your telling me that by consuming more protein - im gonna "show my body" i mean business and force it go grow huh?
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so, your telling me that by consuming more protein - im gonna "show my body" i mean business and force it go grow huh?
Are you telling me the same about carbohydrates numbnuts?
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so, your telling me that by consuming more protein - im gonna "show my body" i mean business and force it go grow huh?
That's something that you can find out only by trying it out for yourself and even if it does or does not work for you, it doesn't mean that it will or will not work for the next person. Are you telling me that a guy who weighs 280 lb at 12% body fat can get away with eating 150 gm of protein a day? It's not a simple / black and white issue of xx grams of protein per day being all there is to it when it comes to muscle building.
You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but do know that you sound silly when you say one only needs to eat 150 gm protein / day - what is sufficient for you won't be for someone like Marcus Ruhl or Ronnie Coleman at their prime.
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Are you telling me the same about carbohydrates numbnuts?
simple and complex does not apply to you does it? You eat what you want, when you want!
If i have 3 donuts and a can of coke vs. sweet potato's, oatmeal, or whole grain bread - my body will respond differently.
Eating donuts and coke makes u fat.. oatmeal or sweet potato's dont.
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simple and complex does not apply to you does it? You eat what you want, when you want!
If i have 3 donuts and a can of coke vs. sweet potato's, oatmeal, or whole grain bread - my body will respond differently.
Eating donuts and coke makes u fat.. oatmeal or sweet potato's dont.
what happens if u eat 29 13 oz sweet potatos a day?
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Eating donuts and coke makes u fat.. oatmeal or sweet potato's dont.
Not really.
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That's something that you can find out only by trying it out for yourself and even if it does or does not work for you, it doesn't mean that it will or will not work for the next person. Are you telling me that a guy who weighs 280 lb at 12% body fat can get away with eating 150 gm of protein a day? It's not a simple / black and white issue of xx grams of protein per day being all there is to it when it comes to muscle building.
You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but do know that you sound silly when you say one only needs to eat 150 gm protein / day - what is sufficient for you won't be for someone like Marcus Ruhl or Ronnie Coleman at their prime.
no kiwiol, the whole time i have been so strongly saying that protein is definitely required. And i have emphasized naturals, and said repeatedly if you are on gear, especially high amounts- then do what you do.Somebody sitting at 280 12% bodyfat, the protein intake is the least of their concerns.
I said at least .8-1 gram lb bodyweight.
If a guy weighs 230 lbs, 15% bodyfat- you are saying he wont get just as good results from eating 170 grams at least? If he eats 230, fine thats good. But, a reasonable person would say "chances are, if he is eating 4 or 5 meals containing either fish, steak, eggs, chicken in each- then an additional two meals probably aint gonna make it or break it"
But, average guys that workout, have a decent base, and not on gear - if they are 220 and eating 280 grams a day, that is just a waste of time and money. You cant rationally expect me to believe that. Do you realize how that sounds?
Seriously - a 250 lber consuming only 200g's a day- are u saying that is not enough to support optimal muscle growth?
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what happens if u eat 29 13 oz sweet potatos a day?
nobody does that, so it does not make any sense.
plenty of people eat 29 pieces of candy though. hope this helps
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no kiwiol, the whole time i have been so strongly saying that protein is definitely required. And i have emphasized naturals, and said repeatedly if you are on gear, especially high amounts- then do what you do.Somebody sitting at 280 12% bodyfat, the protein intake is the least of their concerns.
I said at least .8-1 gram lb bodyweight.
If a guy weighs 230 lbs, 15% bodyfat- you are saying he wont get just as good results from eating 170 grams at least? If he eats 230, fine thats good. But, a reasonable person would say "chances are, if he is eating 4 or 5 meals containing either fish, steak, eggs, chicken in each- then an additional two meals probably aint gonna make it or break it"
But, average guys that workout, have a decent base, and not on gear - if they are 220 and eating 280 grams a day, that is just a waste of time and money. You cant rationally expect me to believe that. Do you realize how that sounds?
Seriously - a 250 lber consuming only 200g's a day- are u saying that is not enough to support optimal muscle growth?
The name of the game is body "building" - you need to consume more than your body needs in order to facillitate muscle growth. I weigh 230lbs and I know for a fact that if I consumed only 170 grams of protein a day I would experience serious muscle loss and fat gain (assuming my carbs and fats stayed the same as now).
The rule is, if you weigh 230lbs and want to be 250lbs, then you've got to eat like a 250lb guy before you even get there. That is how you will get there. I'm eating 5,000 calories a day at the moment and only just gaining weight on that.
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no kiwiol, the whole time i have been so strongly saying that protein is definitely required. And i have emphasized naturals, and said repeatedly if you are on gear, especially high amounts- then do what you do.Somebody sitting at 280 12% bodyfat, the protein intake is the least of their concerns.
I said at least .8-1 gram lb bodyweight.
If a guy weighs 230 lbs, 15% bodyfat- you are saying he wont get just as good results from eating 170 grams at least? If he eats 230, fine thats good. But, a reasonable person would say "chances are, if he is eating 4 or 5 meals containing either fish, steak, eggs, chicken in each- then an additional two meals probably aint gonna make it or break it"
But, average guys that workout, have a decent base, and not on gear - if they are 220 and eating 280 grams a day, that is just a waste of time and money. You cant rationally expect me to believe that. Do you realize how that sounds?
Seriously - a 250 lber consuming only 200g's a day- are u saying that is not enough to support optimal muscle growth?
Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
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The name of the game is body "building" - you need to consume more than your body needs in order to facillitate muscle growth. I weigh 230lbs and I know for a fact that if I consumed only 170 grams of protein a day I would experience serious muscle loss and fat gain (assuming my carbs and fats stayed the same as now).
The rule is, if you weigh 230lbs and want to be 250lbs, then you've got to eat like a 250lb guy before you even get there. That is how you will get there. I'm eating 5,000 calories a day at the moment and only just gaining weight on that.
Exactly! I was around 220 lb when this pic was taken and I was consuming around 350 gm / day. I've tried going down to under 200 gm and the differences in strength and recovery was HUGE. And I'm not one to shy away from eating carbs - I eat tons of sugar and complex carbs everyday. Again, not everyone may need as much as I was taking, but everyone I have trained personally, who focused on building up their strength and muscularity got the best results when taking upwards of 200 - 250 gm of protein, depending on their body weight.
Boon, I am lifetime natural and so were the guys I trained. I realise there is an upper limit above which you will get diminishing returns and that is probably past the 2.5 gm / lb of bodyweight mark. But someone who trains hard and heavy will always get better results from 1.5 - 2 gm / lb than from 0.8 - 1 gm / lb
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The name of the game is body "building" - you need to consume more than your body needs in order to facillitate muscle growth. I weigh 230lbs and I know for a fact that if I consumed only 170 grams of protein a day I would experience serious muscle loss and fat gain (assuming my carbs and fats stayed the same as now).
The rule is, if you weigh 230lbs and want to be 250lbs, then you've got to eat like a 250lb guy before you even get there. That is how you will get there. I'm eating 5,000 calories a day at the moment and only just gaining weight on that.
gee, first time hearing that one ::)
this is where the problem is. You go by what you read. Yet you dont do any further research into it. So basically your philosophy is this:
Well, "they say" you need to eat more to grow.
5000 calories huh? What are you eating? junk food?
and how much weight have u put on? If you put on 20 lbs or something, then i guarantee about 18 lbs of that is water/fat.
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Exactly! I was around 220 lb when this pic was taken and I was consuming around 350 gm / day. I've tried going down to under 200 gm and the differences in strength and recovery was HUGE. And I'm not one to shy away from eating carbs - I eat tons of sugar and complex carbs everyday. Again, not everyone may need as much as I was taking, but everyone I have trained personally, who focused on building up their strength and muscularity got the best results when taking upwards of 200 - 250 gm of protein, depending on their body weight.
Boon, I am lifetime natural and so were the guys I trained. I realise there is an upper limit above which you will get diminishing returns and that is probably past the 2.5 gm / lb of bodyweight mark. But someone who trains hard and heavy will always get better results from 1.5 - 2 gm / lb than from 0.8 - 1 gm / lb
dude there are SO MANY FACTORS INVOLVED!
How do we know it was from the additional protein? How do we know its not from the amount of gear you were on? Or extra carbs or fats?
What about how well you responded to the gear?
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your the biggest natural ive ever seen
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dude there are SO MANY FACTORS INVOLVED!
How do we know it was from the additional protein? How do we know its not from the amount of gear you were on? Or extra carbs or fats?
What about how well you responded to the gear?
Did you even read his post? He's a lifetime natural.
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dude there are SO MANY FACTORS INVOLVED!
How do we know it was from the additional protein? How do we know its not from the amount of gear you were on? Or extra carbs or fats?
What about how well you responded to the gear?
Ha ha never touched any gear man, I swear on my own eyes. I'm around 220 lb at probably 18% body fat, so if I dieted down, I wouldn't be more than 170 - 175 lb tops. And I'm not interested in competing, which is why I don't and won't juice.
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Claims to know more the Palumbo about everything.
So I thought we should have a thread where he could share his knowledge ;D
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First question: What is his height and weight?
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your the biggest natural ive ever seen
Not at all. I've got small joints and full muscle bellies, but I'm not the biggest natural or anything. Maybe in the top 10%, which is good enough for me.
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Ha ha never touched any gear man, I swear on my own eyes. I'm around 220 lb at probably 18% body fat, so if I dieted down, I wouldn't be more than 170 - 175 lb tops. And I'm not interested in competing, which is why I don't and won't juice.
I'd say you would be closer to 150 and only able to db press 2.5lb pink db's... ;D
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the only thing i said is this, and i only made it for naturals, not juice junkies.
1- supplements are junk
2- anything about .8-1g protein lb bw is a waste and pointless
3- eats plenty of complex carbs, avoid simple.
4- weight train and do cardio.
what is so complicated about that?
#2 is what most people are so confused about. You cant force your body to use more protein than it can.
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First question: What is his height and weight?
I thought this was a pretty simple question... :-\
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I'd say you would be closer to 150 and only able to db press 2.5lb pink db's... ;D
Maybe before, but I take Animal Pak now and am already up to benching 135 on the incline for reps. I'd attempt 225 lb, but it's hard finding spotters at 4 am, which is the time real iron warriors train.
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Maybe before, but I take Animal Pak now and am already up to benching 135 on the incline for reps. I'd attempt 225 lb, but it's hard finding spotters at 4 am, which is the time real iron warriors train.
"Animal Pak?" but you said you were a natural!?! ;D All bets are off now!
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Oh brother this clown sounds like another cumdizzle
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gee, first time hearing that one ::)
this is where the problem is. You go by what you read. Yet you dont do any further research into it. So basically your philosophy is this:
Well, "they say" you need to eat more to grow.
5000 calories huh? What are you eating? junk food?
and how much weight have u put on? If you put on 20 lbs or something, then i guarantee about 18 lbs of that is water/fat.
My "philosophies" come from a combination of reading about nutrition from professionals and also from 16 years of personal experience with nutrition. There's been a lot of trial and error along the way but Rome wasn't built in a day and it's taken me this long to be eating what I am now.
My 5,000 calories a day is probably about 90% clean foods and the remainder is from the occasional snack like a CNP Flapjack bar which although not ideal, can hardly be classed as junk food. My protein sources throughout the day (every day) come from steak, chicken, skimmed milk, and whey isolate. Carbs are in the form of oatmeal, baked potateoes, and maltodextrin for early in the morning and also post workout. Fat intake is merely incidental depending on how much steak I have.
I'm not for one minute suggesting that getting from 230lbs to 250lbs will be done quickly - it's best to do it gradually (over the course of many months or even a year or so). If you do it too quickly, then yes, it will be mostly fat, but do it gradually whilst consuming a sensible, clean, calorie surplus and there's a good chance it will be mostly muscle.
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Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
Lets try tis again...
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My "philosophies" come from a combination of reading about nutrition from professionals and also from 16 years of personal experience with nutrition. There's been a lot of trial and error along the way but Rome wasn't built in a day and it's taken me this long to be eating what I am now.
My 5,000 calories a day is probably about 90% clean foods and the remainder is from the occasional snack like a CNP Flapjack bar which although not ideal, can hardly be classed as junk food. My protein sources throughout the day (every day) come from steak, chicken, skimmed milk, and whey isolate. Carbs are in the form of oatmeal, baked potateoes, and maltodextrin for early in the morning and also post workout. Fat intake is merely incidental depending on how much steak I have.
I'm not for one minute suggesting that getting from 230lbs to 250lbs will be done quickly - it's best to do it gradually (over the course of many months or even a year or so). If you do it too quickly, then yes, it will be mostly fat, but do it gradually whilst consuming a sensible, clean, calorie surplus and there's a good chance it will be mostly muscle.
Do you or have you ever juiced, BigJ?
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Do you or have you ever juiced, BigJ?
I have to admit that I have - started with a bit off with a bit of dianabol back in '02 and cycled that for a few years on its own until I started injecting around '04.
Went completely clean between mid 2005 to early 2008 and then started again in around April/May 08. Been cycling since then. I tend to favour the test/tren stack but I'm currently on a 12 week cycle of test/equipoise to see how it benefits. I won't ever go back to orals - too harsh on my system.
Not proud of it but there you go. :-\
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My "philosophies" come from a combination of reading about nutrition from professionals and also from 16 years of personal experience with nutrition. There's been a lot of trial and error along the way but Rome wasn't built in a day and it's taken me this long to be eating what I am now.
My 5,000 calories a day is probably about 90% clean foods and the remainder is from the occasional snack like a CNP Flapjack bar which although not ideal, can hardly be classed as junk food. My protein sources throughout the day (every day) come from steak, chicken, skimmed milk, and whey isolate. Carbs are in the form of oatmeal, baked potateoes, and maltodextrin for early in the morning and also post workout. Fat intake is merely incidental depending on how much steak I have.
I'm not for one minute suggesting that getting from 230lbs to 250lbs will be done quickly - it's best to do it gradually (over the course of many months or even a year or so). If you do it too quickly, then yes, it will be mostly fat, but do it gradually whilst consuming a sensible, clean, calorie surplus and there's a good chance it will be mostly muscle.
just out of curiosity could you list your daily food intake BigJ, would like how much food your consuming to hit 5K calories.
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just out of curiosity could you list your daily food intake BigJ, would like how much food your consuming to hit 5K calories.
Ok here goes:
Breakfast (8am)
60g Oatmeal or three shredded wheat = 240 cals
9oz of semi-skimmed milk = 137 cals
3 slices of wholegrain toast (or bread) with honey = 241 cals
90 grams maltodextrin = 342 cals
50g Whey isolate shake with water = 185 cals
Mid morning snack (10:30am)
50g Whey isolate = 185 cals
2 small bananas = 140 cals
Lunch (13:00)
2 lean steak hamburgers = 560 cals
200g baked potato (with skin) = 350 cals
Mid afternoon (14:30)
Small chicken breast = 200 cals
Whey isolate = 185 cals
1 small banana = 80 cals
Preworkout (15:45)
CNP Flapjack Bar = 289 cals
No-Explode = 25 cals
Train (16:00 - 17:30)
Postworkout (17:35)
50g Whey Isolate = 185 cals
90g Maltodextrin = 342 cals
Evening Meal (19:00)
250g Steak = 627 cals
Low fat fries or baked potato = 300 cals
Pre-bedtime (21:30)
Protein shake half whey half casein = 150 cals
18oz semi-skimmed milk = 274 cals
Total for the day = 5,037 cals
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Ok here goes:
Breakfast (8am)
60g Oatmeal or three shredded wheat = 240 cals
9oz of semi-skimmed milk = 137 cals
3 slices of wholegrain toast (or bread) with honey = 241 cals
90 grams maltodextrin = 342 cals
50g Whey isolate shake with water = 185 cals
Mid morning snack (10:30am)
50g Whey isolate = 185 cals
2 small bananas = 140 cals
Lunch (13:00)
2 lean steak hamburgers = 560 cals
200g baked potato (with skin) = 350 cals
Mid afternoon (14:30)
Small chicken breast = 200 cals
Whey isolate = 185 cals
1 small banana = 80 cals
Preworkout (15:45)
CNP Flapjack Bar = 289 cals
No-Explode = 25 cals
Train (16:00 - 17:30)
Postworkout (17:35)
50g Whey Isolate = 185 cals
90g Maltodextrin = 342 cals
Evening Meal (19:00)
250g Steak = 627 cals
Low fat fries or baked potato = 300 cals
Pre-bedtime (21:30)
Protein shake half whey half casein = 150 cals
18oz semi-skimmed milk = 274 cals
Total for the day = 5,037 cals
using any gear?
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Lets try tis again...
Haha :D
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using any gear?
Yep - 600mg test enanthate and 500mg equipoise a week.
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Yep - 600mg test enanthate and 500mg equipoise a week.
seems like a pretty sensible stack, nothing too crazy, you use a lot of supplements, that shit must be costly, your whole food diet is pretty similar to what i do although i probably eat bigger meat portions than you to make up for the lack of whey powder.
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the only thing i said is this, and i only made it for naturals, not juice junkies.
1- supplements are junk
2- anything about .8-1g protein lb bw is a waste and pointless
3- eats plenty of complex carbs, avoid simple.
4- weight train and do cardio.
what is so complicated about that?
#2 is what most people are so confused about. You cant force your body to use more protein than it can.
I thought I saw somewhere before in one of your posts you said to keep your dietary fats real real low
I do not agree with this at all-----good quality fats are fine and very important to your health, recovery, testosterone levels etc...
other than that-----99% of supplements are bunk---but some are fine to have and benefical...a good whey isolate or casienate (or whey casein mix) is good to have, not required since you can get the nutrients through food, but are great when you have little time and dont subsitute for real food too much
some other good supplements: BCAA's, creatine, Omega 3's, ECA
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seems like a pretty sensible stack, nothing too crazy, you use a lot of supplements, that shit must be costly, your whole food diet is pretty similar to what i do although i probably eat bigger meat portions than you to make up for the lack of whey powder.
Yeah, I probably spend about $120 a month on powders on average. The maltodextrin is cheap and last ages but the whey isolate is top notch stuff but I like to try and use the best.
The whey isolate is really there as an insurance policy as I'm at work through most of my meals and it's much easier to down a shake than sit through multiple tupperware containers of chicken and rice etc, which take much longer to choke down.
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number 2 is complete bullshit,,, i hope any impressionable young men totaly dissregard that statement, unless you actualy dont want to build your body....
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number 2 is complete bullshit,,, i hope any impressionable young men totaly dissregard that statement, unless you actualy dont want to build your body....
most guys on here spout this kind of crap to be trendy----most of the guys denoucing protein powders are really using one after they train
people need to be their own man and stop being followers----too many sheep on this site :-\
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the only thing i said is this, and i only made it for naturals, not juice junkies.
1- supplements are junk
2- anything about .8-1g protein lb bw is a waste and pointless
3- eats plenty of complex carbs, avoid simple.
4- weight train and do cardio.
what is so complicated about that?
#2 is what most people are so confused about. You cant force your body to use more protein than it can.
Good points. Now post a picture to show us what you've achieved with following these rules and you are the new guru.
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Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
Good luck Bob......I have asked Guru Boonstakie to show us a pic a couple of times now. I have yet to see what this monstrosity looks like. I mean, you would think he would be just a mountain of natural muscle with the advice he gives out.
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Good points. Now post a picture to show us what you've achieved with following these rules and you are the new guru.
Good luck.
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Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
this is him Bob, he posted this shot last year some time.
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Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
How much protein do you advocate? For the natural and for the enhanced. Increase/decrease protein when dieting?
How much is too much protein? Do you think what Martin Kjellstrom does is excessive (1000 grams a day)? I'm pretty sure Tom Prince said he did like 400 grams a day and was huge as well. 400 grams is far from 1000 grams though.
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How much protein do you advocate? For the natural and for the enhanced. Increase/decrease protein when dieting?
How much is too much protein? Do you think what Martin Kjellstrom does is excessive (1000 grams a day)? I'm pretty sure Tom Prince said he did like 400 grams a day and was huge as well. 400 grams is far from 1000 grams though.
Can you imagine the shits/farts?
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How much protein do you advocate? For the natural and for the enhanced. Increase/decrease protein when dieting?
How much is too much protein? Do you think what Martin Kjellstrom does is excessive (1000 grams a day)? I'm pretty sure Tom Prince said he did like 400 grams a day and was huge as well. 400 grams is far from 1000 grams though.
hahahahaha, he doesn't eat 1000 grams of protein, gimme a fucccking break. ::)
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I see broomstick is still spreading the knowledge... 8)
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this is him Bob, he posted this shot last year some time.
THat girl is very cute.
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seems like a pretty sensible stack, nothing too crazy, you use a lot of supplements, that shit must be costly, your whole food diet is pretty similar to what i do although i probably eat bigger meat portions than you to make up for the lack of whey powder.
Quaker, are you trying to pack on size? Or stay where you are at?
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its true, 1 gr/lb of bw is the absolute max anyone should take.
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hahahahaha, he doesn't eat 1000 grams of protein, gimme a fucccking break. ::)
Well, I haven't seen him eat but I don't think it's too far from the truth. He only eats like 100 grams of carbs a day so it doesn't add up to a huge amount of calories. I know he drinks TONS of whey protein. I remember even many years ago he was picking up 5kg of whey each week from a supp store my buddy worked at (my buddy is now his coach).
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Well, I haven't seen him eat but I don't think it's too far from the truth. He only eats like 100 grams of carbs a day so it doesn't add up to a huge amount of calories. I know he drinks TONS of whey protein. I remember even many years ago he was picking up 5kg of whey each week from a supp store my buddy worked at (my buddy is now his coach).
My goodness, the toilet abuse!!!
My asshole would never forgive me.
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people who trian with weights use protein mor effeciently than sedentary individuals and only need to consume about .5g per kilogram body weight per day in order to sustain nitrogen balance
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niotrogen balance means your neither gaining nor losing muscle, you must increase nitrogen retention, or else its impossible to increase muscle size.
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eating protein stimulates protein synthesis as well as protein breakdown.
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protein consumption stimulates an increase in igf-1 , glucoagon release, keeps blood sugar levels stable, increases leucine content in blood.
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prtoein consumption(in meat form) is roughly 2 to 3 times more thermogenic than carb and fat consumption
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boonstack is an idiot
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This guy dissappeared faster than Kegdrainer....
Moving on....
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This guy dissappeared faster than Kegdrainer....
Moving on....
maybe he was escorted out by library security and has no internet access?
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maybe he was escorted out by library security and has no internet access?
LOL.....classic
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maybe he was escorted out by library security and has no internet access?
Then proceeded to lift a 590 lbs garden stone in the nearest backyard.
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maybe he was escorted out by library security and has no internet access?
haha, mass. He was probably visiting some sites that didn't meet community standards...haha
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haha, mass. He was probably visiting some sites that didn't meet community standards...haha
haha, security probably like "oh brother, what is this community coming to" after they went to see what the little guy was getting all worked up and sweaty over and saw him typing feverishly with dudes in thongs all over the screen.
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Quaker, are you trying to pack on size? Or stay where you are at?
always trying to pack it on, why else go to the gym?
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protein is important of course but not the be all and end all.
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protein is important of course but not the be all and end all.
imagine if you ate high protein along with all those carbs and used some gear...
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the gear would play much more of a factor than the protein.
then again i may be wrong as i have probaly ate more than 200g protein in one day 5 times maximum
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the gear would play much more of a factor than the protein.
then again i may be wrong as i have probaly ate more than 200g protein in one day 5 times maximum
i know... kidney problem right ? ... maybe you could try using some whey more often ? does whey effect kidney's to the same degree as meat?
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i have no idea to be honest.
i am not big into researching training nutrition etc nor do i know much.
i just like going to the gym lifting weights and eating lots.
I try not to get too involved in it as at the end of a day its just a hobby for me
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Just curious...but what do you base your opinions on?
Q2- Have you ever competed in a BB show before?
Q3- What is your height and size (or do you have pics you've posted)?
Bob this guy looks like warmed over shit in an american eagle shirt.
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Bob this guy looks like warmed over shit in an american eagle shirt.
how bout u post a pic, handsome?
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gee, first time hearing that one ::)
this is where the problem is. You go by what you read. Yet you dont do any further research into it. So basically your philosophy is this:
Well, "they say" you need to eat more to grow.
5000 calories huh? What are you eating? junk food?
and how much weight have u put on? If you put on 20 lbs or something, then i guarantee about 18 lbs of that is water/fat.
The “research” is called trial-and-error, what he has done with his own physique. He knows FIRSTHAND that he needs to consume more protein in order to grow. I know that to be a fact, myself, because that’s what it took for me to grow. It took more than 180 grams of protein just to get him to 230. What makes you think that he's going to get bigger by consuming LESS?
From all appearances, you keep dredging up excuse after excuse, as to why you can’t/won’t consume enough protein to get the results you really seek.
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i have no idea to be honest.
i am not big into researching training nutrition etc nor do i know much.
i just like going to the gym lifting weights and eating lots.
I try not to get too involved in it as at the end of a day its just a hobby for me
DEVON EGGS AND BREAD RAWR
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the only thing i said is this, and i only made it for naturals, not juice junkies.
1- supplements are junk
2- anything about .8-1g protein lb bw is a waste and pointless
3- eats plenty of complex carbs, avoid simple.
4- weight train and do cardio.
what is so complicated about that?
#2 is what most people are so confused about. You cant force your body to use more protein than it can.
Once again, we have the “natural” excuse for not increasing your protein intake.
Again, I can tell you first hand, to get my bodyweight over 200 lbs, it took jacking my protein levels to about 320-350 grams per day. I did this back in college, when the only thing I could afford, outside of regular food, was Mega Mass 2000 and GNC’s Challenge Milk and Egg protein powder.
That semester was spring 1996. I started at 189 lb and ended up at 210 in about 31/2 months.
5000 calories isn't that hard to consume, as you can get nearly half of that from a decent weight gainer, as I did years ago. And, the gainers today are of better quality than those from the early/mid 90s (which pretty much refutes your "supplements are junk" spiel"). Ectomorphs with fast metabolisms will likely have to drink half their calories, to get their bodyweight up.
So, the whole steroid excuse for not eating higher protein levels holds no water.
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i had a similar aproach in all thru my lifting years, ive always eat a little more than i should.. for one i actualy enjoyed eating large amounts, ive ate over 5000cals a day for a yr at my biggest, and there was still room for more if im honest... i cant work out why youd lift weights and limit your self by not giving your body the building blocks it needs...
its like using the same weights that youve used since your 1st day at the gym or never going over 250mg of gear per week, just doesnt make sence.. that is if your not wanting to get bigger or get any size at all.
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Eating 3 more chicken breasts over the long haul will make a major difference most probably, certainly not in a week but try 3 months and you will inevitably see a difference