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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on February 11, 2009, 12:40:17 PM
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If you really think about it, the fundamental basis of this industry and pretty much everything that is wrong with this "sport" are the dumb people falling for the most unbelievable obvious fake advertisement human kind has ever seen.
Good friend of mine (and not the sharpest tool in the box) would fall for any and every f'ing shit these cocksuckers put on the market and i mean ANYTHING, he calls me at least once a month raging about this new product that would stimulate your testosterone level (naturally ::) ) and a week later he has to admit it was all bullshit.
So all these dumb f's fall for these dumb advertisement fall for dumb promises and buy their dumb shit product.
I mean a half way intelligent man would have no problem to figure out that a product called "species ::)" produced by two of the biggest crocks in the BB industry has no f'ing chance in hell to be any good.
So back to the start, these dumb f's buy the product therefore the "Supplement" industry has money to spend on advertisement for the pros they make a bit of cash and need to do less g4p and everybody is happy right?
Wrong, because if you guys have any decency in you, you boycot these lying f'ing snakeoil selling scumbag companies and give them NOTHING, not even the cheese of your dick nada nothing, f'em and f their spokes persons and the pages that push this shit as well.
And f you dumb f' for falling for the most obvious scams
Edit: Three product that have been proven to work and are not to be included in the list above: Protein Powder, Amino Acids, Creatine.
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I like protein powder, it's convenient. They should put all the money in making it less hideous.
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i tried quite a share of supps and always came to the same conclusion thats its horseshit.
but you cant go wrong on just whey powder.
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When it comes to physiques, all that really matters is AAS + calories/protein.
In terms of OTC, I do invest in things like 7-Keto, CLA, Fish Oil, r-ALA, ALCAR, EGCG caps, a few designer pro-hormones, etc.
Otherwise yes, most everything bodybuilding related is pretty useless. Even knowing this, a true supplement junky has to fight the urge to purchase interesting and novel new products. I still buy stupid shit now and then, its almost like entertainment. ;) Every now and then I get sucked into trying some new thermo/fatburner. I recently bought controlled labs REDuction AM/PM and was pleasantly surprised with its appetite suppression abilities. It's not all useless, but when compared to designer pro-hormones, black market AAS, t3 and albuterol, most "supplements" are a waste of money.
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
That's right on the money; too many people mistake SUPPLEMENT for STAPLE. These are the same guys who hit up fast food joints and go out to the bar 2 or 3 nights a week, then wonder why they aren't gaining like they should. We all know the kinda guys I'm talking about. They are same ones who spend 200 bucks a month on supps, but look like a fat bar bouncer.
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I eat a big meal of "junk" food every day. I had no problems cutting down to single digit this way. It was the easiest, most convenient cut I ever made. Only supplement used was protein powder.
BTW, I go to the Asian all-you-can-eat at least twice a week. :D
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Nothing wrong with a bit of protein powder.
However, I don't consider that a supplement as it's such a staple part of my diet, I couldn't bodybuild without it.
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Nothing wrong with a bit of protein powder.
However, I don't consider that a supplement as it's such a staple part of my diet, I couldn't bodybuild without it.
Well you could get the protein from other sources. Less convenient though.
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Supplements dont work. You shit it down the toilets.
Creatine "works", it causes water retention. You stop taking it, you lose all water retention.
Lifting weights builds muscles.
Taking steroids double/triple the mass you can build while lifting weights at the same time. Once you stop them you lose all the gains.
supps and steroids are for weak minded people who feel they need shortcuts due to mental issues.At least steroids users make some improvements.
But both dont believe in important values like work, dedication and patience. Steroids users especially, are cheaters.
You cannot consider supps users as cheaters, cause supps dont do anything.
But steroid users cheat on themselves, and on the others. Most of the time they are people you cant trust.
Ron: what do you know about lifting weights and building muscles anyway?
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Shit that works:
Whey
Creatine
Tribulus
Glutamamine
Andro - Never done it but have seen my friends use it with results
The rest sucks
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Shit that works:
Whey
Creatine
Tribulus
Glutamamine
Andro - Never done it but have seen my friends use it with results
The rest sucks
don't think glutamine has any proven effects..
anyways... for me it's
whey
bcaa
multivita/mineral
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
Humans don't need any supplements in order to have a healthy balanced, normal sized diet, even in today's hectic society.
Most supplements are only mildly beneficial, if not completely redundant.
the only generally useful sup in my view is protein powder. It gets me enough extra protein, whilst I can avoid stuffing my face with dry chicken, cans o tuna etc (which would ruin the satisfaction of eating)
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In my opinion only 3 supps worth taking:
Whey - i take it all the time. I just the taste and it is fast and easy
NO - Not sure it gets me any stronger but I get a sweet ass vein in my bicep when i am on it and that is all i care about
Creatine - I put on a decent amount of water weight and can lift a little more so I do it every once in a while when i'm on a bulking phase, but I could definitely do without it.
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Top 6 things that every human should do that is very cheap...
1. baking soda to help alkalize the body. 1/4 tsp. twice a day.
2. Apple Cider Vinegar with the "mother" to alkalize the body. 1 Tbsp twice a day.
3. juice from one lemon...Just one a day...
4. get rid of your toothpaste and brush teeth with regular all natural white Soap or
use a product called "tooth soap".
5. Food grade hydrogen peroxide in your water...Cycle this stuff something like 12
weeks on, 6 weeks off...
6. Bright Light Therapy every morning for 20 minutes.
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my mum drinks warm water every morning.
at 56 is in great health
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one of the strongest men in the world's view on supplements.
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one of the strongest men in the world's view on supplements.
Perfectly said.
We've all heard that a thousand times before, but it's correct.
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And fuck you dumb fucks for falling for the most obvious scams
Edit: Three product that have been proven to work and are not to be included in the list above: Protein Powder, Amino Acids, Creatine anabolic steroids, human growth hormone, insulin.
fixed!
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whey/creatine !
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Don't mind Geo... he's 60 years old, lost, and probably drunk right now.
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pay close attention to geo because he's really smart !
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
ron.. i totally respect you, absolutely. But, supplements are no good at all. Supplement companies depend on the publics ignorance to buy their products. I have so many resources from my professors about nutrition and supplements its not even funny. These are PhD's in biochemistry Ron. As i have said before, science does not use testimonials. Especially this supplement shit are you KIDDING ME! What exactly do you know about vitamins and minerals, anyway? I mean deeper than just the "you heard Vitamin C was good for you" understanding.
and please, i want to know what clinic these companies test their products in. I want specifics and details.
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
QFT
Pwnage by Ron. Rarely seen
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People taking whey is such a fucking joke.
Seriously, most hardcore bodybuilders I know that eat 6-7 meals a day, most including a large portion of meat - do you really think thats not adequate? You just gotta rush that fucking whey shake within that magical "1 hour postworkout window" ::)
LOL
So say you train around 5-7 pm. Well, assuming you were awake since 7 a.m, and got around 4 solid meals in with chicken or fish in each, you really think your body has already used that protein? Gee... here we go again.
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Ron,
eating clean instead of junk food and exercising causes weight loss. Supplements have nothing to do with it. You really think these things are healthy for you?
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pay close attention to geo because he's really smart sneaky and will probably steal anything that is not nailed down!
fixed!
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Ron,
eating clean instead of junk food and exercising causes weight loss. Supplements have nothing to do with it. You really think these things are healthy for you?
Supplement. Does exactly what it says on the tin. Supplements your diet. eg whey, a convenient method of boosting protein intake. By no means a replacement for every potential meal.
I don't disagree that by eating clean and ditching junk food will help weight loss though.
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Supplement. Does exactly what it says on the tin. Supplements your diet. eg whey, a convenient method of boosting protein intake. By no means a replacement for every potential meal.
I don't disagree that by eating clean and ditching junk food will help weight loss though.
thats the problem there, buddy. It does not.
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Protein powder is more convenient for some people but not necessary. It's a food replacement not a supplement. Creatine has a small effect on some people. All other supps are useless for body composition IMO. There is no such thing as "junk" or "clean" food when it comes to body composition. All that matters for optimal body composition is enough protein, weight training, and rate of weight change as setup by overall intake and activity.
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
Bullshit Ron, and how can you tell? You don't look like the kinda guy who would use them very often, apart from the obvious and long time used Supplements like protein and creatine the rest is all snakeoil, like all these natural testosterone boosters ::) get off it Ron you know it's bullshit.
And btw not taking any supplements doesn't mean you have to grow fat and become a couch potato there is also the option of living healty.
Fact is Ron these crock companies are tricking kids and dumb people in believing them that they as well can look like the Pro's it's complete horseshit.
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LOL?? you cant trust a person who uses hormones? why is that?
Do you trust a junkie?
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define *junkie*
A narcotics addict
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A narcotics addict
we dont trust you your a narcotics narc
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The word supplement means 'in addition to',as in 'in addition to a good diet,these supplements may help realise your goals'
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ron.. i totally respect you, absolutely. But, supplements are no good at all. Supplement companies depend on the publics ignorance to buy their products. I have so many resources from my professors about nutrition and supplements its not even funny. These are PhD's in biochemistry Ron. As i have said before, science does not use testimonials. Especially this supplement shit are you KIDDING ME! What exactly do you know about vitamins and minerals, anyway? I mean deeper than just the "you heard Vitamin C was good for you" understanding.
There are various studies that say exactly what we all know - that supplements work, at least the main staples. Others do to, but on each supplement and type, you can debate for a whole thread, and they do.
Vitamins and Minerals is a whole different ballgame. We are talking about sports supplements, whey, nitric oxide and a myriad of others. Each has its own benefits to some people.
For example, Glucosamine works, and I know it works. Two of us here have used it, and swear by it. Especially when my knee was hurting, but again, you can debate one by one.
eating clean instead of junk food and exercising causes weight loss. Supplements have nothing to do with it. You really think these things are healthy for you?
Supplements are convenient. Especially when you can't eat clean nor have the discipline or time to do that. I guess we need to break down 'supplements', and which are healthy or more on the cutting edge... but yes, I would rather take some protiein powders and drinks than go to a local restuarant and eat their 'so called food'.
Bullshit Ron, and how can you tell? You don't look like the kinda guy who would use them very often, apart from the obvious and long time used Supplements like protein and creatine the rest is all snakeoil, like all these natural testosterone boosters get off it Ron you know it's bullshit.
Really - because I am not in shape now. When I worked about, I used a lot of whey powders, and various products, creatine and more. They work. Not everything works, and that is the problem, that there are fly by nights that promise and never deliver, but many products do.
I was never a bodybuilder, but during my college years and afterwards, we liked to hike. Trying going up the Twin Falls in Yosemite with a 60 pound backup on your back. That was strength and stamina.
See - making a generic statement such as 'Dumb people buy supplements' is really stupid.
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There are various studies that say exactly what we all know - that supplements work, at least the main staples.
What if the participants also "know" that? Has there been placebo tests?
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
That must be why you're gut doesn't hang over you're belt ;D
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That must be why you're gut doesn't hang over you're belt ;D
There's no supplement that shrinks foreheads,sorry :(
:D
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What if the participants also "know" that? Has there been placebo tests?
Lol there are always placebo tests in parallel with other testing.
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people who buy supps arent dumb.
They are fucking retarded.
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There's no supplement that shrinks foreheads,sorry :(
:D
:'( damn it did you find any to make you're penis grow ;D I'm tired of giving you're girl orgasms I'm gonna have to start charging
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on the cutting edge... but yes, I would rather take some protiein powders and drinks than go to a local restuarant and eat their 'so called food'.
Really - because I am not in shape now. When I worked about, I used a lot of whey powders, and various products, creatine and more. They work. Not everything works, and that is the problem, that there are fly by nights that promise and never deliver, but many products do.
I was never a bodybuilder, but during my college years and afterwards, we liked to hike. Trying going up the Twin Falls in Yosemite with a 60 pound backup on your back. That was strength and stamina.
See - making a generic statement such as 'Dumb people buy supplements' is really stupid.
And if you would have read my post, you would have seen that I said that Creatine Protein and Amino Acids work, I'm talking about the million bullshit products like Deca and what ever else you can find in the latest MD.
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stop you suck at this..... delete try again
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:'( damn it did you find any to make you're penis grow ;D I'm tired of giving you're girl orgasms I'm gonna have to start charging
I just tie a ruler to it....and I don't measure :(
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Supplements are convenient. Especially when you can't eat clean nor have the discipline or time to do that. I guess we need to break down 'supplements', and which are healthy or more on the cutting edge... but yes, I would rather take some protiein powders and drinks than go to a local restuarant and eat their 'so called food'.
I agree with protein powder being convenient for meeting higher protein needs for preserving muscle mass. But what's so awefully wrong about restaurant food? If it's a good restaurant, the food is healthy, delicious, and will provide you with all needed nutrients. On my last cut, I almost exclusively ate at restaurants, best and easiest cut I ever made.
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With no supplement industry there would be no bodybuilding shows. Who do you think pays for all this crap? I don't exactly see mainstream sponsors knocking down the doors of bodybuilding shows.
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With no supplement industry there would be no bodybuilding shows. Who do you think pays for all this crap? I don't exactly see mainstream sponsors knocking down the doors of bodybuilding shows.
finally that was the point I wanted to make
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With no supplement industry there would be no bodybuilding shows.
and that's a bad thing? :-\
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With no supplement industry there would be no bodybuilding shows. Who do you think pays for all this crap? I don't exactly see mainstream sponsors knocking down the doors of bodybuilding shows.
We, the buyers...
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I think pro shows are overrated, but I think the local shows are worthwhile. Too much stuff is overdone in our industry. It is what it is. The intellect of someone saying all supplements are stupid, is an idiot. Anyone with half a brain knows that. Be hardcore, eat your food and train. Nobody cares what you think. There are some companies that give the industry a bad rap, but I don't blame them. The consumers want it, they make it. OTC drugs being sold by people working out of their garage. Is what it is.
There are some excellent supplements out there, there are some crappy ones. Just like any industry.
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I think pro shows are overrated, but I think the local shows are worthwhile. Too much stuff is overdone in our industry. It is what it is. The intellect of someone saying all supplements are stupid, is an idiot. Anyone with half a brain knows that. Be hardcore, eat your food and train. Nobody cares what you think. There are some companies that give the industry a bad rap, but I don't blame them. The consumers want it, they make it. OTC drugs being sold by people working out of their garage. Is what it is.
There are some excellent supplements out there, there are some crappy ones. Just like any industry.
Now don't be too harsh on Stark, he is intellectually handicapped you see.
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SUPPLEMENTS THAT WORK
SUPPLEMENTS THAT SUCK
L-Glutamine
Creatine Ethyl Ester, no such thing
BCAA's Creatine Ester, doesnt exist
Waxey Maize Starch, from potato or rice sources Creatine Ethyl Ester Beta ALanine, another made up chemical Creatine Taurinate
Amino Acids WHey protein COncentrate that is 35%-60% pure, junk
Whey protein that is above 80% protein Hydrolised Collagen Protien
Whey protein Isolate 89% plus protein Geltain Protein
Milk Isolate, D-Ribose
Egg Protein HMB
Creatine, mixed with L-Glutamine in any formulation
EHpedra Liquid Creatine, if its not Kre-Alklayln
ECA stack Green tea & caffiene claiming to be better then ECA
Triacna Most liquid Vitamins, they are just mostly orange juice
Androstene Oxigen Water
Androstendiol Waxy Maize Starch that is make from CORN Starch
Combination proteins ,Milk ,EGG, wHEY, Dextrose, in creatine products
Kre-alklayn Weight gainers with Maltodextrin
Arginine Homeopathic GH enhancers
Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL IF ITS REAL Most protein bars, because of heat & Glycerin
All body Fortress products sold at Wal Mart
Arginine HCL cheap Tribulus, or Tribulus used without an Androgen
Beta Alanine Longfolia that is below 200 to 1 , most are 50 to 1
L-Norvaline Meal replacement that contain Guar GUM Xanthium Gum
Vanadyl Sulfate, Collagen protein solid in test tubes claiming to be Whey
Chromium Chinese Creatine
Vanadium Gugul Lipids
Digestive Enzymes Chitostan
L-carnatine products having 75 ingredients, in propreitory blends
Longfolia compnies renaming DHEA, as a pro-hormone
Velever Deer Antler, if its real!!!!!! Wheat Protein
6 0x0 Buck Wheat Protein
Ester C Goat Whey
Fish Oil Wheat Protein Isolate
Soy Protein only use Isolate & small amounts
Pre-made protein drinks that are "flash heated"
CLA in capsules, just buy Safflower oil at the store
Energy drinks, monster, Full Throttle, etc etc junk
Coral Calcium
Cortisol Blockers
Green teat fatbuners
Hoodia, if its not from Africa, and its its not used with Konjac
Collagen Protein Weight Loss products
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Matt Kroczalewski summed it up rather well, there's some that actually help, but most are extremely over-hyped garbage!!
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SUPPLEMENTS THAT WORK
SUPPLEMENTS THAT SUCK
L-Glutamine
Creatine Ethyl Ester, no such thing
BCAA's Creatine Ester, doesnt exist
Waxey Maize Starch, from potato or rice sources Creatine Ethyl Ester Beta ALanine, another made up chemical Creatine Taurinate
Amino Acids WHey protein COncentrate that is 35%-60% pure, junk
Whey protein that is above 80% protein Hydrolised Collagen Protien
Whey protein Isolate 89% plus protein Geltain Protein
Milk Isolate, D-Ribose
Egg Protein HMB
Creatine, mixed with L-Glutamine in any formulation
EHpedra Liquid Creatine, if its not Kre-Alklayln
ECA stack Green tea & caffiene claiming to be better then ECA
Triacna Most liquid Vitamins, they are just mostly orange juice
Androstene Oxigen Water
Androstendiol Waxy Maize Starch that is make from CORN Starch
Combination proteins ,Milk ,EGG, wHEY, Dextrose, in creatine products
Kre-alklayn Weight gainers with Maltodextrin
Arginine Homeopathic GH enhancers
Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL IF ITS REAL Most protein bars, because of heat & Glycerin
All body Fortress products sold at Wal Mart
Arginine HCL cheap Tribulus, or Tribulus used without an Androgen
Beta Alanine Longfolia that is below 200 to 1 , most are 50 to 1
L-Norvaline Meal replacement that contain Guar GUM Xanthium Gum
Vanadyl Sulfate, Collagen protein solid in test tubes claiming to be Whey
Chromium Chinese Creatine
Vanadium Gugul Lipids
Digestive Enzymes Chitostan
L-carnatine products having 75 ingredients, in propreitory blends
Longfolia compnies renaming DHEA, as a pro-hormone
Velever Deer Antler, if its real!!!!!! Wheat Protein
6 0x0 Buck Wheat Protein
Ester C Goat Whey
Fish Oil Wheat Protein Isolate
Soy Protein only use Isolate & small amounts
Pre-made protein drinks that are "flash heated"
CLA in capsules, just buy Safflower oil at the store
Energy drinks, monster, Full Throttle, etc etc junk
Coral Calcium
Cortisol Blockers
Green teat fatbuners
Hoodia, if its not from Africa, and its its not used with Konjac
Collagen Protein Weight Loss products
thanks for this ;)
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studies have shown that creatine Ethyl Ester or any other kind of new hyped creatine doesnt work only thing that works is getting a empty pocket :)
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here we go again!! Everybody says Franco Columbu's nutrition book is "outdated" and useless. If you actually read it, He says don't waste your money on "wonder supplements". But you guys are too smart to listen to a ex mr. olympia. Seriously, just take a multi, some vitamin c and eat high quality food. With the ecomomy bad, who the hell can waste money on bullshit supplements. Remember, if your not training like a friggin madman, your pissin in the wind.
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here we go again!! Everybody says Franco Columbu's nutrition book is "outdated" and useless. If you actually read it, He says don't waste your money on "wonder supplements". But you guys are too smart to listen to a ex mr. olympia. Seriously, just take a multi, some vitamin c and eat high quality food. With the ecomomy bad, who the hell can waste money on bullshit supplements. Remember, if your not training like a friggin madman, your pissin in the wind.
Simple but true nonetheless. "Supplements" means: I don't eat what matches my needs. You d'ont need to be eating 4000calories aday to get plenty of what you need even if you work out like a beast. Even the multi you can do without ideally.
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Thank you RZA. I'm glad someone understands finally!
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here we go again!! Everybody says Franco Columbu's nutrition book is "outdated" and useless. If you actually read it, He says don't waste your money on "wonder supplements". But you guys are too smart to listen to a ex mr. olympia. Seriously, just take a multi, some vitamin c and eat high quality food. With the ecomomy bad, who the hell can waste money on bullshit supplements. Remember, if your not training like a friggin madman, your pissin in the wind.
Excellent post, and spot on, I have never bought anything else but Protein, and don't think I ever will.
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Some supplements definately work...
ZMA - I respond well to ZMA
6OXO or the Gaspari test booser
and of course protein powders. I use syntha-6 and ISO-100.
Of course ZMA and over the counter test boosters are worthless if your using AAS.
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Some supplements definately work...
ZMA - I respond well to ZMA
6OXO or the Gaspari test booser
and of course protein powders. I use syntha-6 and ISO-100.
Of course ZMA and over the counter test boosters are worthless if your using AAS.
i'd also say that intra and post workout BCAA's combined with some Gatorade or other simple carbs work very well.
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Yep - be like most people and go to fast food joints and gain more weight and be overweight. Yep - that is right, supplement don't work
Get real.
Of course they do.
Some of them don't but many are there to support your moderate intake of food.
Ron, bullshit most of the stuff raising test levels is DHEA and is labeled as something like trianabol. I'm calling bullshit.
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Ron isnt going to bash supplements, they are the magical powders that makes money flood in for the whole "industry", ron's website being part of this industry.
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SUPPLEMENTS THAT WORK
SUPPLEMENTS THAT SUCK
L-Glutamine
Creatine Ethyl Ester, no such thing
BCAA's Creatine Ester, doesnt exist
Waxey Maize Starch, from potato or rice sources Creatine Ethyl Ester Beta ALanine, another made up chemical Creatine Taurinate
Amino Acids WHey protein COncentrate that is 35%-60% pure, junk
Whey protein that is above 80% protein Hydrolised Collagen Protien
Whey protein Isolate 89% plus protein Geltain Protein
Milk Isolate, D-Ribose
Egg Protein HMB
Creatine, mixed with L-Glutamine in any formulation
EHpedra Liquid Creatine, if its not Kre-Alklayln
ECA stack Green tea & caffiene claiming to be better then ECA
Triacna Most liquid Vitamins, they are just mostly orange juice
Androstene Oxigen Water
Androstendiol Waxy Maize Starch that is make from CORN Starch
Combination proteins ,Milk ,EGG, wHEY, Dextrose, in creatine products
Kre-alklayn Weight gainers with Maltodextrin
Arginine Homeopathic GH enhancers
Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL IF ITS REAL Most protein bars, because of heat & Glycerin
All body Fortress products sold at Wal Mart
Arginine HCL cheap Tribulus, or Tribulus used without an Androgen
Beta Alanine Longfolia that is below 200 to 1 , most are 50 to 1
L-Norvaline Meal replacement that contain Guar GUM Xanthium Gum
Vanadyl Sulfate, Collagen protein solid in test tubes claiming to be Whey
Chromium Chinese Creatine
Vanadium Gugul Lipids
Digestive Enzymes Chitostan
L-carnatine products having 75 ingredients, in propreitory blends
Longfolia compnies renaming DHEA, as a pro-hormone
Velever Deer Antler, if its real!!!!!! Wheat Protein
6 0x0 Buck Wheat Protein
Ester C Goat Whey
Fish Oil Wheat Protein Isolate
Soy Protein only use Isolate & small amounts
Pre-made protein drinks that are "flash heated"
CLA in capsules, just buy Safflower oil at the store
Energy drinks, monster, Full Throttle, etc etc junk
Coral Calcium
Cortisol Blockers
Green teat fatbuners
Hoodia, if its not from Africa, and its its not used with Konjac
Collagen Protein Weight Loss products
Did you foward this post to boonstack for approval ???
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If you really think about it, the fundamental basis of this industry and pretty much everything that is wrong with this "sport" are the dumb people falling for the most unbelievable obvious fake advertisement human kind has ever seen.
Good friend of mine (and not the sharpest tool in the box) would fall for any and every f'ing shit these cocksuckers put on the market and i mean ANYTHING, he calls me at least once a month raging about this new product that would stimulate your testosterone level (naturally ::) ) and a week later he has to admit it was all bullshit.
So all these dumb f's fall for these dumb advertisement fall for dumb promises and buy their dumb shit product.
I mean a half way intelligent man would have no problem to figure out that a product called "species ::)" produced by two of the biggest crocks in the BB industry has no f'ing chance in hell to be any good.
So back to the start, these dumb f's buy the product therefore the "Supplement" industry has money to spend on advertisement for the pros they make a bit of cash and need to do less g4p and everybody is happy right?
Wrong, because if you guys have any decency in you, you boycot these lying f'ing snakeoil selling scumbag companies and give them NOTHING, not even the cheese of your dick nada nothing, f'em and f their spokes persons and the pages that push this shit as well.
And f you dumb f' for falling for the most obvious scams
Edit: Three product that have been proven to work and are not to be included in the list above: Protein Powder, Amino Acids, Creatine.
:'( :'( :'(
Calm down Gloria.
If you don't likeor believe in supplements then don't buy them. Simple.
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If you really think about it, the fundamental basis of this industry and pretty much everything that is wrong with this "sport" are the dumb people falling for the most unbelievable obvious fake advertisement human kind has ever seen.
Good friend of mine (and not the sharpest tool in the box) would fall for any and every f'ing shit these cocksuckers put on the market and i mean ANYTHING, he calls me at least once a month raging about this new product that would stimulate your testosterone level (naturally ::) ) and a week later he has to admit it was all bullshit.
So all these dumb f's fall for these dumb advertisement fall for dumb promises and buy their dumb shit product.
I mean a half way intelligent man would have no problem to figure out that a product called "species ::)" produced by two of the biggest crocks in the BB industry has no f'ing chance in hell to be any good.
So back to the start, these dumb f's buy the product therefore the "Supplement" industry has money to spend on advertisement for the pros they make a bit of cash and need to do less g4p and everybody is happy right?
Wrong, because if you guys have any decency in you, you boycot these lying f'ing snakeoil selling scumbag companies and give them NOTHING, not even the cheese of your dick nada nothing, f'em and f their spokes persons and the pages that push this shit as well.
And f you dumb f' for falling for the most obvious scams
Edit: Three product that have been proven to work and are not to be included in the list above: Protein Powder, Amino Acids, Creatine.
What's is wrong with liquid vitamins?
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i'd also say that intra and post workout BCAA's combined with some Gatorade or other simple carbs work very well.
Agreed, I use to add luceine to powered Gatorade and mix it up. L-Luceine does not mix does mix very well. Luceine is the main thing that starts protein synthsis. Most supplements are over hyped and over priced. Buy bulk in Luceine, BCAAs, or EAA's is the way to go.