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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
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as far as stregth goes, i think naturals can get very strong. but they wont look pleasing to the eye. had a friend in high school who would throw around some insanely heavy weights... dude was always BIG since as far back as i can remember... even in jr high he had some fat ole triceps... he would bench 365 for a couple and squat 495 for a few..
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as far as stregth goes, i think naturals can get very strong. but they wont look pleasing to the eye. had a friend in high school who would throw around some insanely heavy weights... dude was always BIG since as far back as i can remember... even in jr high he had some fat ole triceps... he would bench 365 for a couple and squat 495 for a few..
do you know 4 sure he didn't use ???
I know guys who swear onj their mothers grave to be natties and have test faces :))
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Twink snatching 385.
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pure strength.
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do you know 4 sure he didn't use ???
I know guys who swear onj their mothers grave to be natties and have test faces :))
no i dont know that..but ive known him since we were 12 and his proprtions have never change... hes always been the same "bigness" for his height...
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My belief is that sevastase loves the cock.
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bitches be crazy
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Here is a 440 x 15 lift from a natural (Yes. I am sure.) lifter.
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Kolozzeum taking over!
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Here is a 440 x 15 lift from a natural (Yes. I am sure.) lifter.
good music. Hammerfall :)
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Here is a 440 x 15 lift from a natural (Yes. I am sure.) lifter.
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oh brother
Paul Anderson has reincarnated
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maybe he is a top gifted strength athlete
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maybe he is a top gifted strength athlete
:D ::)
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Anything above sevastases mindblowing mass/strength cannot be atained naturally.
This is common knowledge.
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train
Because you can't do it? LOL
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Because you can't do it? LOL
Better watch out pollux, or sevastase will post a vid of him struggling to bench 4 fake plates aside, aren't you terrified? ;D
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Anything above sevastases mindblowing mass/strength cannot be atained naturally.
This is common knowledge.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
I think naturals can lift heavier than 405. It all depends on the natural's body weight also.
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Anything above sevastases mindblowing mass/strength cannot be atained naturally.
This is common knowledge.
no doubt..gotta love the anyone thats stronger than me is not natural bit.
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....
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strong kid, 180kg. is what= 396 pounds? i thought that left arm was never going to come up.
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Better watch out pollux, or sevastase will post a vid of him struggling to bench 4 fake plates aside, aren't you terrified? ;D
Let me think about that...NO! LOL :D
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sevaste, Layne Norton has benched over 405.. hes definatly natural
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I have a buddy who's clean as a whistle and he's benched 405lbs raw. He never touched m1t when people claimed it was natural, he never used natural test boosters that were spiked with steroids or really any supplement other than some protein and creatine monohydrate. He's a beast. I would know, because I helped him with his first cycle and he looks fucking crazy!!
I believe him about being natural too because he couldn't even pin himself. He asked if he should just take orals but I forced him to use the sauce he already bought lol... his gf pinned him and know he's monstrous. Just ran some orals and a little bit of test and exploded. You can get strong and stay natural for sure. Strength training isn't a mystery. Getting BIG has plateaus that no natural can break through however. After a certain point you need to get on AAS or other drugs to progress.
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sevaste, Layne Norton has benched over 405.. hes definatly natural
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D ::)
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I was 247 just turned 25 and benched 500 absolutely as a natural.
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I was 247 just turned 25 and benched 500 absolutely as a natural.
you're not a normal human being Keith, you're obviously a very genetically gifted presser.
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my 19yr old drug free and tested buddy benched 180kg in a PLing comp. He weighed in at around 93kg
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
There's a few naturals in my gym that can. One of my best friends is good for 2 reps @ 5'9" 215-220.
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
...just because you had to take steroids to hit 405 doesn't mean everyone else has to. Kinda arrogant, nuh?
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my 19yr old drug free and tested buddy benched 180kg in a PLing comp. He weighed in at around 93kg
Damn good lift, pretty much bouble his BW...
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you can't know who is natural or not for sure so all this speculation about what naturals can achieve is kind of pointless imo...
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...just because you had to take steroids to hit 405 doesn't mean everyone else has to. Kinda arrogant, nuh?
Id call it more ignorant than anything.
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train
My belief is that I could never bench 405 as a nattie no matter how many years i had trained
FIXED!
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
::)
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I was 247 just turned 25 and benched 500 absolutely as a natural.
you are top 0.0000000000000000000000 0001 %
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hahahaahahahaha
very funny
BTW huge mofo is a romanian kid I talk to living in Sweden who benches 405 for a shaky single and claims natural as well....
he has the clips to prove it
this whole hater thing started with me putting him on ignore :D
in a few weeks his bench went through the roof ( like 50 lbs ...
of course he claimed natural ...
I said he either takes AAS or he is the most gifted fastest progressing powerlifting world class talent since Nick Winters arrived
So besides him being overly defensive let's debate if it's possible for a nattie to press 405 after a few years of training or to progress 30-40 lbs on his bench in a few weeks .
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I won't post his pictures cause I'm a nice guy and he's just a kid but if you keep talking smack I will + ;)
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hahahaahahahaha
very funny
BTW huge mofo is a romanian kid I talk to living in Sweden who benches 405 for a shaky single and claims natural as well....
he has the clips to prove it
this whole hater thing started with me putting him on ignore :D
in a few weeks his bench went through the roof ( like 50 lbs ...
of course he claimed natural ...
I said he either takes AAS or he is the most gifted fastest progressing powerlifting world class talent since Nick Winters arrived
So besides him being overly defensive let's debate if it's possible for a nattie to press 405 after a few years of training or to progress 30-40 lbs on his bench in a few weeks .
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I won't post his pictures cause I'm a nice guy and he's just a kid but if you keep talking smack I will + ;)
Your mate is posting pics of naked dudes too..... :-X
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Your mate is posting pics of naked dudes too..... :-X
yes ..the one with the cock holding twins right ?
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yes ..the one with the cock holding twins right ?
I think so.....i didn't look to closely. ;D
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Your mate is posting pics of naked dudes too..... :-X
Sev posts pics of naked guys to , its no surprise that homos hang with homos.
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Sev posts pics of naked guys to , its no surprise that homos hang with homos.
the guy is not a homo....he is a nice guy
I just said that he's either lieing to me or he is a world class presser in the making and a beyond average genetically gifted athlete ...
or judging from his pics and videos, a chubby kid who dabbledin something but is ashamed to admit... ;)
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
I strongly disagree.
I am a lifetime natural. Benched 465 at 240. Also Benched 455 at 223 and have hit 405 for 6. All this was at the end of working sets (I have never tried to just "max" bench).
Not really that exceptional.
Now 500, that is impressive. Always wanted to get there...
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I strongly disagree.
I am a lifetime natural. Benched 465 at 240. Also Benched 455 at 223 and have hit 405 for 6. All this was at the end of working sets (I have never tried to just "max" bench).
Not really that exceptional.
Now 500, that is impressive. Always wanted to get there...
The bad thing though is I weighed 247 and did 500 1000000% drug free in a t-shirt. I took 1cc of test cyp 200 mg everyday for 6 months (maybe missed a day or so in there sometime) in 1986 and got my weight to 298 and my bench only went up to 585. But 500 was really really easy. My shoulder and arm strength is where I really got big
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The bad thing though is I weighed 247 and did 500 1000000% drug free in a t-shirt. I took 1cc of test cyp 200 mg everyday for 6 months (maybe missed a day or so in there sometime) in 1986 and got my weight to 298 and my bench only went up to 585. But 500 was really really easy. My shoulder and arm strength is where I really got big
vid? ;D
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my 19yr old drug free and tested buddy benched 180kg in a PLing comp. He weighed in at around 93kg
Goudy you are a thick mofo. I'm just wondering what you press? Seems like you would probably be close to 405, but i have no idea.
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The bad thing though is I weighed 247 and did 500 1000000% drug free in a t-shirt. I took 1cc of test cyp 200 mg everyday for 6 months (maybe missed a day or so in there sometime) in 1986 and got my weight to 298 and my bench only went up to 585. But 500 was really really easy. My shoulder and arm strength is where I really got big
that's some serious weight Keith
you were a strong bloke
how's things going for you now mate
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that's some serious weight Keith
you were a strong bloke
how's things going for you now mate
Back in the gym again after another layoff. I get so embarassed in the gym now. I did my first day of benching last week. Still a little sore. I did 5 sets of 225 for 6. And I mean barely got that. I have NO tricep strength or chest right now. But I felt pretty good on Friday. Working up very slowly. Been walking mostly. Just now getting back into the weights. I still feel I can bench 405 soon. I want to get my front press back up to 315 and then I will post video. I just get a little discouraged for being so weak right now. But I think I can get it back
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Back in the gym again after another layoff. I get so embarassed in the gym now. I did my first day of benching last week. Still a little sore. I did 5 sets of 225 for 6. And I mean barely got that. I have NO tricep strength or chest right now. But I felt pretty good on Friday. Working up very slowly. Been walking mostly. Just now getting back into the weights. I still feel I can bench 405 soon. I want to get my front press back up to 315 and then I will post video. I just get a little discouraged for being so weak right now. But I think I can get it back
Look forword to the vid!
any vids of you destroying dudes in arm rasslin??
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
Hahaha thats me on the video! My PB is much better now!
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
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Because you can't do it? LOL
a little 16 years old bastard at my gym can bench 370/380 easily, chin up with a plate of 20 kg for set of 15, etc etc, with apparently no effort, and no technic, no knowledge on diet, only drinking beer at college with friends.
but he wasn't interested in power/bodybuilding so he give up.
he was the most gifted guy i ever seen.
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so i really believe that 405 drug free is possible.
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I'm competing for the ipf, and i do not use steroids!
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whos gimmick is this?
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I'm competing for the ipf, and i do not use steroids!
of course ...nobody does ....it's a tested federation for fukkin christ sake .... ::)
roids=bad
you=good peoples
therefore
you do not fill the typical profile of a stroid user
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of course ...nobody does ....it's a tested federation for fukkin christ sake .... ::)
roids=bad
you=good peoples
therefore
you do not fill the typical profile of a stroid user
The amount of users in the Swedish IPF affiliated fed is very low actually from what I've seen. Most of these guys you can't even tell train by looking at their physiques. They are a bunch of fags mostly, crying about how bad steroids are. There was one top lifter who was busted many years ago and the witch hunt against him is still going on after he served his suspension, they are doing everything possible to make him feel unwelcome at any meet. The guy is not allowed to compete for the Swedish Team internationally, he can only do local meets, etc.
This 400 bench is beyond elite in Sweden... most of the elite guys bench about 310 if lucky without gear. Hedgehog can confirm this as I think he competes. :D
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The bad thing though is I weighed 247 and did 500 1000000% drug free in a t-shirt. I took 1cc of test cyp 200 mg everyday for 6 months
Thats 1400 mg pw for 6 months..ffs keith ..that was a long and hard cycle.
You cant belittle this and say: "ohh i only did 1 cycle so im practically a cycle virgin"!
But strong lifts no doubt..
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Hahaha thats me on the video! My PB is much better now!
You're a beast man, props.
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My belief is that no nattie can bench 405 no matter how many years they train ....only top gifted strength athletes
Disagee. I used to play football with some big F'n lineman who could bang out 405's for reps without drugs.
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I don't consider myself brutally strong by any means but 405 can be achieved naturally, no doubt. I was around 225 and getting 425 all natural and have witnessed with my own eyes much stronger lifters, all natural too.
It's all about who's got strong tendons and good leverage. Some people are just gifted at different lifts. That's just nature
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Thats 1400 mg pw for 6 months..ffs keith ..that was a long and hard cycle.
You cant belittle this and say: "ohh i only did 1 cycle so im practically a cycle virgin"!
But strong lifts no doubt..
No I would never say that. That is why I don't if I tell everyone what I have taken. Honestly I couldn't have done as well in armwrstling as I did. But the only reason I did do it was because literally every pro takes roids and are very open about it. I was kicking ass as a natural but as I was entering pro events the guys are entirely in a different league. So I had to do them to keep up. But I do think me inclining 505 nearly 10 years after doing anything is pretty good. I kept my weight between 290 and 315 for almost 15 years. So I kept my strength pretty much over those years even while not taking anything.
Look forword to the vid!
any vids of you destroying dudes in arm rasslin??
Yea there is video out there because several events I did were for the Over The Top tournament and tour and they were all recorded by Cannon Films. Just I have never seen them. Andrew Gomez was the cameraman thats all I remember. Personally I never video taped myself nor took pictures. Other took them and sent them to me later on. The first pic was an Over the Top event in Texas and the second one was the finals being taped during filming.
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No I would never say that. That is why I don't if I tell everyone what I have taken. Honestly I couldn't have done as well in armwrstling as I did. But the only reason I did do it was because literally every pro takes roids and are very open about it. I was kicking ass as a natural but as I was entering pro events the guys are entirely in a different league. So I had to do them to keep up. But I do think me inclining 505 nearly 10 years after doing anything is pretty good. I kept my weight between 290 and 315 for almost 15 years. So I kept my strength pretty much over those years even while not taking anything.
Yea there is video out there because several events I did were for the Over The Top tournament and tour and they were all recorded by Cannon Films. Just I have never seen them. Andrew Gomez was the cameraman thats all I remember. Personally I never video taped myself nor took pictures. Other took them and sent them to me later on. The first pic was an Over the Top event in Texas and the second one was the finals being taped during filming.
Jesus that 1st pic is scary,how badly did you own that guy hahaha?
thanks for the pix
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Hahaha thats me on the video! My PB is much better now!
My PB is 475 now.... ;D
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I was 247 just turned 25 and benched 500 absolutely as a natural.
How many years had you been lifting before that? :o
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My PB is 475 now.... ;D
your bench went up almost 100 pounds in a year without drugs? ???
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your bench went up almost 100 pounds in a year without drugs? ???
Must be a shirted max he's talking about. The only Swedes doing that are a couple of big obese benchers.
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your bench went up almost 100 pounds in a year without drugs? ???
as I initially said
hugemofo2000 and this nillson guy are world class powerlifting prodigies ... plus they progress much faster tha any other human being
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Must be a shirted max he's talking about. The only Swedes doing that are a couple of big obese benchers.
Well it seems he has benched 215kg raw now. He only does 220kg in the squat though (geared). ???
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How many years had you been lifting before that? :o
That was around 1982 or 83'. I first picked up a barbell around 1974 as a sophmore in high school. I only weighed 130 and my baseball coach said (when I was a freshman) that I needed to get some size if I was to play varsity baseball. I got up to 175 and I graduated at 210.
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Well it seems he has benched 215kg raw now. He only does 220kg in the squat though (geared). ???
Maybe he thinks leg extensions have good carry over to squats?
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I was 247 just turned 25 and benched 500 absolutely as a natural.
only 500lbs? that's weak. you should have Shamu-like strenght, Onlymen
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A guy like Arnold had huge chest but he was not a strong bencher.
Too much weight and you will wreck your shoulders.
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A guy like Arnold had huge chest but he was not a strong bencher.
Too much weight and you will wreck your shoulders.
Only if you have weak shoulders
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Well it seems he has benched 215kg raw now. He only does 220kg in the squat though (geared). ???
Hahaha......
My leg strenght is not the best! I have only made a 185kg squat raw. :-[