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what about this stuff ???????? Testosterone booster . Someone out there give me some feedback Plleeaassee!!
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what about this stuff ???????? Testosterone booster . Someone out there give me some feedback Plleeaassee!!
I have used the Eurycoma longfolia product (longjack) made from Sci fit. They use the highest dose of it. I used 2 caps a day. I did get a tremendous increase in Libido from it and woke up each day with some serious morning wood. So I would say it does have some test boosting effects. Probably won't boost you into superhigh levels that will build tons of muscle, but it could possibly take you up into the high/normal range of natural test production.
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I have used the Eurycoma longfolia product (longjack) made from Sci fit. They use the highest dose of it. I used 2 caps a day. I did get a tremendous increase in Libido from it and woke up each day with some serious morning wood. So I would say it does have some test boosting effects. Probably won't boost you into superhigh levels that will build tons of muscle, but it could possibly take you up into the high/normal range of natural test production.
interesting. Did you take the two caps together, or apart... with or without meal? How long did you take it for? What was the name of product?
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interesting. Did you take the two caps together, or apart... with or without meal? How long did you take it for? What was the name of product?
The name is Eurycoma 1500 ex by Scifit. I took one in the morning and one in the afternoon. It is slightly stimulating so before bed wasn't a good idea. I took it about 5 days on , two off for about 6 weeks. I'm probably going to do it again fairly soon. I have gotten good results from Vitrex (from Nutrex), but the day after I take it I look kind of watery which shows me there's some estrogen buildup. With the eurycoma, I don't get that look, and the libido effect is stronger as well.
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The name is Eurycoma 1500 ex by Scifit. I took one in the morning and one in the afternoon. It is slightly stimulating so before bed wasn't a good idea. I took it about 5 days on , two off for about 6 weeks. I'm probably going to do it again fairly soon. I have gotten good results from Vitrex (from Nutrex), but the day after I take it I look kind of watery which shows me there's some estrogen buildup. With the eurycoma, I don't get that look, and the libido effect is stronger as well.
Hey thanks for the info.. Turned 30 a few months back and looking for a little boost sex drive wise. I guess it can't hurt to give it a try.
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Hey thanks for the info.. Turned 30 a few months back and looking for a little boost sex drive wise. I guess it can't hurt to give it a try.
I hear you. I'm 46 and i have found some of these supplements have made a big difference. I've been holding off going on HRT (hormone replacement therapy) because I believe if I can coax my own hormones naturally, I'd rather do that than go on testosterone permanently and shut my own system down. If eventually I stop responding to the supplements, then I might do it. But for now, my physique and libido are still doing good with the supplements.
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I hear you. I'm 46 and i have found some of these supplements have made a big difference. I've been holding off going on HRT (hormone replacement therapy) because I believe if I can coax my own hormones naturally, I'd rather do that than go on testosterone permanently and shut my own system down. If eventually I stop responding to the supplements, then I might do it. But for now, my physique and libido are still doing good with the supplements.
Thanks for the advice. Did you stack anything else with the eurycoma?
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Thanks for the advice. Did you stack anything else with the eurycoma?
Well, for the first couple of weeks I was winding down my 6-oxo cycle. But I noticed a big difference in libido after being on the eurycoma for only 4 days. The remainder of the 6 weeks, I was just taking the eurycoma, along with my usual array of vitamins, amino's, protein drinks, etc.
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Well, for the first couple of weeks I was winding down my 6-oxo cycle. But I noticed a big difference in libido after being on the eurycoma for only 4 days. The remainder of the 6 weeks, I was just taking the eurycoma, along with my usual array of vitamins, amino's, protein drinks, etc.
Ordered. I think i'll take 3 a day (any clue of whether w/ or without food?). I'm about 195 right now, i think 3 is good.
Thanks for taking the time to answer!
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Hey V2, turned 44 this year and am always looking for ways to keep me growing...am 6-2, 245lbs, natural, lifting since 18 years old....been reading some on natural test boosters, looking to give them a try. Tried tribilus for awhile, didnt notice much....looking to longjack and other products now...any more ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey V2, turned 44 this year and am always looking for ways to keep me growing...am 6-2, 245lbs, natural, lifting since 18 years old....been reading some on natural test boosters, looking to give them a try. Tried tribilus for awhile, didnt notice much....looking to longjack and other products now...any more ideas would be greatly appreciated.
I can tell you what has worked for me which doesn't mean it works for everyone. Most Tribulus supplements have never had any noticeable effects on me, at least taken by itself. Some products work well for several weeks, then the effects seem to diminish. A good strategy for me is to find a few products that work and rotate their usage. Take one for 4 to 6 weeks, then switch to something else. Here are some things I have noticed results from. Avena Sativa liquid by Action labs. This comes in a little dropper bottle. I take 3 or 4 droppers a day. It supposedly releases more "free" testosterone. Definitely gives me a boost in sex drive. I have used this product for many years. I order it from Amazon.com. Vitrex, by Nutrex, gives me a good boost. It has capsules with liquid in them. It has some sort of liquified Tribulus plus several other ingredients. So for some reason, this form of tribulus seems to work for me. The formula seems to give me some estrogen buildup as I can actually start to see some gyno forming when I'm on it, but this is probably from the aromatization of your own test. A good stack for me is 6-oxo (by Ergopharm) plus Vitrex. The 6-oxo stops the estrogen buildup and releases even more testosterone. I like this combo because the Vitrex causes a release in Leutinizing hormone (similar to a small dose of HCG) and the 6-oxo prevents the Aromitization of your testosterone into estrogen. The eurycoma (longjack) is good and does not seem to increase estrogen. And it doesn't hurt to take extra zinc. It's been shown that if you are deficient in zinc, your test levels will be lower than they should. So to sum it up, I believe in rotating or combining the following: Vitex, Eurycoma, Avena sativa, and extra Zinc. Watch your alcohol and marijuana intake, since excessive use of that can lower hormones as well. Most hardcore guys will read this and say, "Just go out and inject some test and forget this bullshit". For right now, I want to keep my own natural levels as high as I can, without shutting down my own production. One day, if I can no longer produce decent levels, I may go on HRT.
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Thanx V2 , very informative, read up on Vitrex before, but dont want gyno....was just at health food store and bought some avena sativa in dropper form, probably try other products you mentioned...getting old sucks!
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V2 has hit on something
I have done a few small drug cycles in the past but I never had gyno problems till I took the TRIBEX Blue pill, a natural Trib supplement.
My left hand nipple got a bit puffy.
I always found that weird.
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Well today is day 5 of taking the Longjack as prescribed by Chemist. Definitely feeling a little more gitty. lol. Major morning kickstands.
Chemist, i know 5 days, then 2 off.. i'm taking 3 caps a day... 2 morning, 1 afternoon.
Does the effect start to ware off over time?
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Well today is day 5 of taking the Longjack as prescribed by Chemist. Definitely feeling a little more gitty. lol. Major morning kickstands.
Chemist, i know 5 days, then 2 off.. i'm taking 3 caps a day... 2 morning, 1 afternoon.
Does the effect start to ware off over time?
Good to see that you're feeling something. Which brand are you taking? The Scifit? I guess I never took it long enough to feel the effects wear off, so it's hard to say that. I probably wouldn't go over the 3 capsules a day, since I'm not sure there's been many studies showing the effects of high doses. My suggestion would be to stay on as long as you're feeling the effects. If you start getting any adverse reactions, either lower the dose or go off. The good news is that it shouldn't slow down your own production of hormones, so you shouldn't have any problems when you go off.
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I can tell you what has worked for me which doesn't mean it works for everyone. Most Tribulus supplements have never had any noticeable effects on me, at least taken by itself. Some products work well for several weeks, then the effects seem to diminish. A good strategy for me is to find a few products that work and rotate their usage. Take one for 4 to 6 weeks, then switch to something else. Here are some things I have noticed results from. Avena Sativa liquid by Action labs. This comes in a little dropper bottle. I take 3 or 4 droppers a day. It supposedly releases more "free" testosterone. Definitely gives me a boost in sex drive. I have used this product for many years. I order it from Amazon.com. Vitrex, by Nutrex, gives me a good boost. It has capsules with liquid in them. It has some sort of liquified Tribulus plus several other ingredients. So for some reason, this form of tribulus seems to work for me. The formula seems to give me some estrogen buildup as I can actually start to see some gyno forming when I'm on it, but this is probably from the aromatization of your own test. A good stack for me is 6-oxo (by Ergopharm) plus Vitrex. The 6-oxo stops the estrogen buildup and releases even more testosterone. I like this combo because the Vitrex causes a release in Leutinizing hormone (similar to a small dose of HCG) and the 6-oxo prevents the Aromitization of your testosterone into estrogen. The eurycoma (longjack) is good and does not seem to increase estrogen. And it doesn't hurt to take extra zinc. It's been shown that if you are deficient in zinc, your test levels will be lower than they should. So to sum it up, I believe in rotating or combining the following: Vitex, Eurycoma, Avena sativa, and extra Zinc. Watch your alcohol and marijuana intake, since excessive use of that can lower hormones as well. Most hardcore guys will read this and say, "Just go out and inject some test and forget this bullshit". For right now, I want to keep my own natural levels as high as I can, without shutting down my own production. One day, if I can no longer produce decent levels, I may go on HRT.
The Tribulus in Vitrix has a higher percentage of saponins (80%). Most Trib products have 40-45% saponins. So, you’d probably have to take 2000 mg of a regular Trib products (i.e. Ultimate Nutrition’s brand) to get the same amount.
One product I’ve used, although it doesn’t have any Longjack in it, is Vitamin Shoppe’s Python. In addition to Tribulus, it has Avena Sativa and Stinging Nettle root, along with other herbs. The small (60 tablet) bottle costs about $10; the larger (120 tablets) bottle is $17.
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The Tribulus in Vitrix has a higher percentage of saponins (80%). Most Trib products have 40-45% saponins. So, you’d probably have to take 2000 mg of a regular Trib products (i.e. Ultimate Nutrition’s brand) to get the same amount.
One product I’ve used, although it doesn’t have any Longjack in it, is Vitamin Shoppe’s Python. In addition to Tribulus, it has Avena Sativa and Stinging Nettle root, along with other herbs. The small (60 tablet) bottle costs about $10; the larger (120 tablets) bottle is $17.
Thanks for the info. I love Action Labs liquid Avena Sativa. Definitely feel that one. I'll look into this Python product.
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Good to see that you're feeling something. Which brand are you taking? The Scifit? I guess I never took it long enough to feel the effects wear off, so it's hard to say that. I probably wouldn't go over the 3 capsules a day, since I'm not sure there's been many studies showing the effects of high doses. My suggestion would be to stay on as long as you're feeling the effects. If you start getting any adverse reactions, either lower the dose or go off. The good news is that it shouldn't slow down your own production of hormones, so you shouldn't have any problems when you go off.
Thanks for the advice.. i'll give some updates in another week or so...
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Thanks for the info. I love Action Labs liquid Avena Sativa. Definitely feel that one. I'll look into this Python product.
Two Python tablets give 500 mg of Trib (40% saponins). So, if you looking for 800 mg of saponins to have the effect you seek (as with Vitrix), you'll have to take eight tablets.
Here's the label for Python:
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2
Servings Per Container 30
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Damiana (TUMERA APHRODISIACA)(LEAF) 200 Mg N/A*
Gotu Kola (Centella Asiatica)(Aerial Part) 60 Mg N/A*
OAT STRAW (AVENA SATIVA)(HERB) 200 Mg N/A*
Muira Puama (PTYCHOPETALUM OLACOIDES)(BARK) 200 Mg N/A*
Saw Palmetto Extract (Serenoa Repens)(Berry) 200 Mg N/A*
Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Leaf) Std. To 24% Ginkgoflavonglycosides 12 Mg 6% Terpene Lactones 3 Mg 60 Mg N/A*
Eleuthero (Siberian Ginseng)(Eleutherococcus Senticosus)(Root) 200 Mg N/A*
Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng)(Root) 200 Mg N/A*
Guarana Extract (Paullinia Cupana)(Seed) Standardized To 22% Caffeine 176 Mg 100 Mg N/A*
SCHISANDRA CHINENSIS EXTRACT, STD. TO 9% SCHIZANDRINS 18 MG 200 Mg N/A*
Stinging Nettles (Utica Diocia)(Leaf) 400 Mg N/A*
Tribulus Terrestris EXTRACT (AERIAL PLANT) STD. TO 40% SAPONINS 200 MG 500 Mg N/A*
* Daily value not established
There's a Python Extra formula, too. It has all these ingredients plus Artic Root (RHODIOLA ROSEA), but it's only available in the 60-tablet bottle.