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Title: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:21:45 AM
NY to Fight Budget Troubles with Tax Hike
A Semi-News/Semi-Satire from AzConservative ^ | 14 Feb 2009 | John Semmens

Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:08:50 PM by John Semmens

The New York State Legislature is proposing a 50% increase in the tax rate applied to incomes over $250,000 a year. Senate Majority Leader, Malcolm A. Smith (D-St. Albans) warned the Republican minority against “obstinate opposition.”

“These members of the economic aristocracy must not be allowed to withhold excessive amounts of society’s resources when they could be used for more important purposes or to accomplish a more equitable distribution of the Earth’s bounty,” Smith said. “They should consider themselves lucky we don’t take everything over $250,000. As the president as so aptly pointed out, no one really needs more than that for a comfortable living.”


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Pure communists and tyrants. 

Congratulations you fools who vote democrat, you are ushering in communism and you dont even realize it.

Lenin called all of you types " Useful Idiots" of communism.

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 11:33:03 AM
wow just fuking wow these retards should be beaten if not worse
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:36:31 AM
wow just fuking wow these retards should be beaten if not worse

This is going to be so ugly. 

The democrat answer is for everyone to be poor and have shared poverty. 

SHTF real soon. 

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Hereford on February 17, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
Hey, It's your responsibility to help your fellow man.

Even to the point of 100% taxation.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:39:43 AM
Hey, It's your responsibility to help your fellow man.

Even to the point of 100% taxation.

This is a direct result of a the public education system being a complete waste of money and resources.

I want to hear one democrat on this board defend this garbage. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: The Coach on February 17, 2009, 11:41:52 AM
Again, the only ones to blame are the people who voted for these shitheads. I said along time ago that we were headed for a complete socialist and dare I say Marxist socieity and and the f**kwit libs on here pulled their usual 20 year old naive BS and blasted me and everyone who said anything against it.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
This is a direct result of a the public education system being a complete waste of money and resources.

I want to hear one democrat on this board defend this garbage. 

did you attend public school?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 11:43:42 AM
I'd like to scream..but maybe he'll get hit by a bus.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: The Coach on February 17, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
Seriously who in hell are assholes to tell us how much we should make or should't make!!!!!
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 11:46:01 AM
These idiots elected him, wait until the first obamoron can't buy a plasma or xbox and see what happens. Well they're paving the way for a Republican revolution.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:47:05 AM
did you attend public school?


I did for a short time before they instituted mandatory busing.  

It was a disastor and my parents after that sent me to a local tiny catholic school.

Seriously, even you cant defend this.  
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
did you attend public school?


SHTF very soon if they keep this up. 

The democrats are running a pure "Animal Farm"

I never thought it would take such a short period of time for these animals to try communism.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 11:49:34 AM
I did for a short time before they instituted mandatory busing.  

It was a disastor and my parents after that sent me to a local tiny catholic school.

Seriously, even you cant defend this.  


Can't defend what?

Public Schools?

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 11:50:18 AM
Its absolutely ridiculous how fast this shit is happening.  For the record I have never attended a public school.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Hereford on February 17, 2009, 11:50:24 AM
These idiots elected him, wait until the first obamoron can't buy a plasma or xbox and see what happens. Well they're paving the way for a Republican revolution.

Nope, nobody these days in this country goes without. The average psudo-retarded American democrat voter will just put it on credit and not give any thought to the fact they can't really afford it.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:50:38 AM
Can't defend what?

Public Schools?



The article and the democrats telling people they are lucky the govt does not take anything over 250k in income.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
Nope, nobody these days in this country goes without. The average psudo-retarded American democrat voter will just put it on credit and not give any thought to the fact they can't really afford it.

The GOP stinks, but the RATS are even worse.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
The GOP is dumping the RINO's. The three morons in the Senate will have a stiff time come re-election.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
Seriously who in hell are assholes to tell us how much we should make or should't make!!!!!

The republicans took some of your money as taxes.
The democrats will take more of your money as taxes.

So you hate the repubs, but you hate the dems even more?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 17, 2009, 11:53:21 AM
Horrible.  The left wing of the party is the loudest voice now.  Pure socialistic style thinking.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2009, 11:54:00 AM
The GOP is dumping the RINO's. The three morons in the Senate will have a stiff time come re-election.

Unless the stim package works as it did in 1993.

Then, they might be the only repubs who possessed the fwd-thinking to know you can't save the economy by giving old rich retirees an extra $2 mil in tax breaks each year (via tax breaks) to invest in foreign currencies.

That same $2mil creates a whole lotta jobs here.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 11:56:25 AM
The republicans took some of your money as taxes.
The democrats will take more of your money as taxes.

So you hate the repubs, but you hate the dems even more?

The damm Repubs cut taxes and atleast try and cut bs spending (yeah Bush failed) but this is beyond anything I thought possible. Obama and his group are a danger to this country like nothing anybody could realize. The leftists are over playing their hand. Did Reagan pull this shit when he crushed mondale.....NO


240 its never worked in the history of stimuli......the spending is mostly program based as opposed to actual job creation.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:56:39 AM
Horrible.  The left wing of the party is the loudest voice now.  Pure socialistic style thinking.

This is really getting worse by the hour with these people.  

Wealthy people are either going to move or simply shut down and get a regular job.

Why should anybody try to make something of themselves if the democrats are there to hammer you with communism?  
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: BM OUT on February 17, 2009, 11:57:14 AM
Unless the stim package works as it did in 1993.

Then, they might be the only repubs who possessed the fwd-thinking to know you can't save the economy by giving old rich retirees an extra $2 mil in tax breaks each year (via tax breaks) to invest in foreign currencies.

That same $2mil creates a whole lotta jobs here.

Yeah,much better to give lazy non producing pieces of crap money.Great.Let those who work pay for those that dont.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 11:58:23 AM
Yeah,much better to give lazy non producing pieces of crap money.Great.Let those who work pay for those that dont.

Dont remind me.  I live in NY and have to see these lazy slugs every day.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: The Coach on February 17, 2009, 12:01:21 PM
The republicans took some of your money as taxes.
The democrats will take more of your money as taxes.

So you hate the repubs, but you hate the dems even more?

You didn't answer the question. Who are THEY to try to tell us that we should have an income limit, because thats what they are basically telling us!
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: headhuntersix on February 17, 2009, 12:03:25 PM
This is really getting worse by the hour with these people.  

Wealthy people are either going to move or simply shut down and get a regular job.

Why should anybody try to make something of themselves if the democrats are there to hammer you with communism?  

This goes to the heart of it...why work harder...go out on a limb....invent, produce. If i were a big Pharma company before Congress I'd tell them to go F themselves....who invents and cures people. Not some asshole living in the projects...its people who are smart enough and can afford to go to places like Johns Hopkins, which get grants from VERY RICH PEOPLE, who keep producing and advancing medical science.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 12:03:28 PM
You didn't answer the question. Who are THEY to try to tell us that we should have an income limit, because thats what they are basically telling us!

Obama has set the tone for all of this.  

The same way three lazy slobs ask for more benefits at a town hall rally is the same way these slug RATS want to impose communism.

He set all of this motion.

We warned everybody that this was coming.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: The Coach on February 17, 2009, 12:17:34 PM
Obama has set the tone for all of this.  

The same way three lazy slobs ask for more benefits at a town hall rally is the same way these slug RATS want to impose communism.

He set all of this motion.

We warned everybody that this was coming.

And I was called every name in the book for saying it.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tu_holmes on February 17, 2009, 12:24:26 PM
So why is the AZ conservative, the only blog to report this?

I've searched all over... and so far... This one single paper has it... Where is everyone else who should be talking about it?

I thought you guys didn't like bloggers anyway?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 12:25:50 PM
So why is the AZ conservative, the only blog to report this?

I've searched all over... and so far... This one single paper has it... Where is everyone else who should be talking about it?

I thought you guys didn't like bloggers anyway?

This came out today.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 12:26:27 PM
So why is the AZ conservative, the only blog to report this?

I've searched all over... and so far... This one single paper has it... Where is everyone else who should be talking about it?

I thought you guys didn't like bloggers anyway?
well you have obama speaking, a rod speaking, burris speaking...if its true more will hopefully come out, whats the problem i thought you guys loved bloggers?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tu_holmes on February 17, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
well you have obama speaking, a rod speaking, burris speaking...if its true more will hopefully come out, whats the problem i thought you guys loved bloggers?

I have no problem with them... I do love bloggers.

Haven't we had this conversation? I'm all for the blogisphere... I just remembering you guys hating bloggers. Do you not hate them any more?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 12:31:49 PM
The article and the democrats telling people they are lucky the govt does not take anything over 250k in income.

What article?

I only see a quote and no link.

I don't live in NY so I really don't care.  If people are unhappy with this person then they can vote him out.

How about a link so we can read the whole thing
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tu_holmes on February 17, 2009, 12:35:06 PM
What article?

I only see a quote and no link.

I don't live in NY so I really don't care.  If people are unhappy with this person then they can vote him out.

How about a link so we can read the whole thing

It is on the Arizona Conservative... I did google it... It's literally a 8 line piece and has no reference and mentions a NY state senator... Who if you google news, doesn't show up anywhere else about this item... He does show up about other things though.

Also, this thing says it's "semi-news,  a satirical view at current events".

How can you take this satire item as news? It even says it's satire.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 12:35:54 PM
What article?

I only see a quote and no link.

I don't live in NY so I really don't care.  If people are unhappy with this person then they can vote him out.

How about a link so we can read the whole thing

Of course you dont care, you are a socialist and support a quasi-communist Obama.

BTW - why not lower it to 100K in income? 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
I have no problem with them... I do love bloggers.

Haven't we had this conversation? I'm all for the blogisphere... I just remembering you guys hating bloggers. Do you not hate them any more?
I wouldnt say im against bloggers all together just ppl in general that make up ridiculous shit and inturn the morons that take it and run even when they know it to be false(240). Difference is bro lefty bloggers made up 10 stories a day about palin all of them more ridiculous then the next. Like I said if this is true more will come out about it. Its pretty ignorant to ask why you havent heard more about this if it was released today as obama is signing the biggest piece of spending in the worlds history, a-rod gave a press conference about his steroid usage, and burris admits trying to raise money for blago in a news conference.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 12:37:24 PM
It is on the Arizona Conservative... I did google it... It's literally a 8 line piece and has no reference and mentions a NY state senator... Who if you google news, doesn't show up anywhere else about this item... He does show up about other things though.

Also, this thing says it's "semi-news,  a satirical view at current events".

How can you take this satire item as news? It even says it's satire.

yeah - I noticed that too
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 12:38:05 PM
It is on the Arizona Conservative... I did google it... It's literally a 8 line piece and has no reference and mentions a NY state senator... Who if you google news, doesn't show up anywhere else about this item... He does show up about other things though.

Also, this thing says it's "semi-news,  a satirical view at current events".

How can you take this satire item as news? It even says it's satire.

This is not a joke and it is being discussed in our budget disaster.  They are trying to rape all taxpayers over 250k per year.  

I live here and know this is not joke.  
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 12:40:04 PM
Of course you dont care, you are a socialist and support a quasi-communist Obama.

BTW - why not lower it to 100K in income? 

Dude - I'm suprised you haven't had an aneurysm yet.

I don't live in NY so WHY would I care?

It only a single quote.  I don't know the context or even if it's real.

You need to pace yourself or you're going to go nuts before Obama get's to his second term
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 12:45:17 PM
Dude - I'm suprised you haven't had an aneurysm yet.

I don't live in NY so WHY would I care?

It only a single quote.  I don't know the context or even if it's real.

You need to pace yourself or you're going to go nuts before Obama get's to his second term

If Celente, Schiff, Dent, Roubini, et all are correct, we might not make it that far. 

Pelsoi/Obama/Reid know they have a small window to impelment their chaos before riots prevail. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Hereford on February 17, 2009, 12:53:55 PM
Dude - I'm suprised you haven't had an aneurysm yet.

I don't live in NY so WHY would I care?It only a single quote.  I don't know the context or even if it's real.

You need to pace yourself or you're going to go nuts before Obama get's to his second term

This is a variation of the liberal "I don't make enough to pay real taxes, so why do I care if you get most of your earned income robbed by the government to pay-off voting blocks..."
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 12:57:30 PM
This is a variation of the liberal "I don't make enough to pay real taxes, so why do I care if you get most of your earned income robbed by the government to pay-off voting blocks..."

Why the fuck would I care about 1 quote from a state senator in a state where I don't live

I live in CA and we have our own problems - just like every other state

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: BM OUT on February 17, 2009, 01:02:18 PM
Why the fuck would I care about 1 quote from a state senator in a state where I don't live

I live in CA and we have our own problems - just like every other state



BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE LAWS FOR THE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW!!!!!!When little tiny jew boy Robert Reich gets up and says "the jobs that the stimulous produces shouldnt go to whites" its very disturbing.However,people like you say"big deal he is only an adviser".Foolish.They throw out quotes like that in order to see how its accepted.If no one protests,it soon becomes a bill.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 01:10:09 PM
BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE LAWS FOR THE PEOPLE TO FOLLOW!!!!!!When little tiny jew boy Robert Reich gets up and says "the jobs that the stimulous produces shouldnt go to whites" its very disturbing.However,people like you say"big deal he is only an adviser".Foolish.They throw out quotes like that in order to see how its accepted.If no one protests,it soon becomes a bill.

I still don't care

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tu_holmes on February 17, 2009, 01:38:27 PM
This is not a joke and it is being discussed in our budget disaster.  They are trying to rape all taxpayers over 250k per year.  

I live here and know this is not joke.  

Well, I understand they have this tax policy now... but I'm not sure if the quote was said or not.

If so, then there is an issue... if not... then this is just satire... as it was listed.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 17, 2009, 01:41:45 PM
These idiots elected him, wait until the first obamoron can't buy a plasma or xbox and see what happens. Well they're paving the way for a Republican revolution.

Republican revolution?.  When will you idiots wake up and realize both sides of politics are CORRUPTED and TYRANNICAL! &guy is raising taxes in California.  This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue........it's a big government and NWO issue.  Until then we will be a divided country and we'll still be bitching and complaining 20 years from now if our country doesn't implode.  The US Government has been stealing capital not only from the rest of the world but from its own people for the last 100 years.  They have the banks and FED on their side.  Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Obama.  They are all the same.    
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 17, 2009, 01:43:01 PM
Well, I understand they have this tax policy now... but I'm not sure if the quote was said or not.

If so, then there is an issue... if not... then this is just satire... as it was listed.

I live here and they are using the 250k number as the benchmark.  It started at 1 million dollars a year and the Democrats brought it down to 250k a year.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 17, 2009, 01:52:19 PM
This goes to the heart of it...why work harder...go out on a limb....invent, produce. If i were a big Pharma company before Congress I'd tell them to go F themselves....who invents and cures people. Not some asshole living in the projects...its people who are smart enough and can afford to go to places like Johns Hopkins, which get grants from VERY RICH PEOPLE, who keep producing and advancing medical science.

 ::)  So you think all the crime and poverty in this country is due to people's lack of will power?  Haha you are a moron of the highest order.  
  
The big Pharma companies are in bed with the Government.  They both suck off each other.  Why do you think people call it corporatism or state capitalism??????????  It's the smaller biotech companies that are getting shafted for their hardwork and ingenuity not the monopolistic megaPharma companies.  Small to medium sized biotech companies are the ones producing breakthrough medical technology.  This is how it is with the agricultural industry, finance industry and just about every other industry.  Why the hell do you think there are 34,000 lobbyists in Washington.  Look at how many of our leaders and politicians are ex CEOs or throwbacks to big business.  
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 17, 2009, 04:15:28 PM
Its important because many in the democratic party want income limits...they have for years.  This is not new though the cut off number seems to be dropping.  We are just hearing more voices these days because the far left is speaking loudest and has the most power now.  Thats also why its dangerous...because they can advance their agenda.
Mark my words...taxes will be raised as soon as we are out of this recession and people making 150K and over are going to get slaughtered if the current democrats have their way.
Way to encourage mediocrity.  $ Drives people to take risks, go into temporary debt, get loans in the promise of success, start businesses, work harder, be innovative, etc. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 17, 2009, 04:30:22 PM
Its important because many in the democratic party want income limits...they have for years.  This is not new though the cut off number seems to be dropping.  We are just hearing more voices these days because the far left is speaking loudest and has the most power now.  Thats also why its dangerous...because they can advance their agenda.
Mark my words...taxes will be raised as soon as we are out of this recession and people making 150K and over are going to get slaughtered if the current democrats have their way.
Way to encourage mediocrity.  $ Drives people to take risks, go into temporary debt, get loans in the promise of success, start businesses, work harder, be innovative, etc. 

I think you are COMPLETELY WRONG!  I think that is just what we've been brainwashed to believe.  You act like people for the last 100 years are the only type of people that have lived across this entire planet?  What about indigenous cultures?  Cultures that as scientific and historical evidence has shown lived meager lives, enjoyed lots of peace and harmony and were some of the happiest people ever to live on the Earth.  We are brainwashed idiots who've been controlled into believing we need money and materialism to be happy and innovative and make a difference.  If money is your only motivation in life I feel sorry for you.  I'll never be rich.  I don't want to be rich.  But that doesn't mean I'm not driven for other reasons.  Many people even nowadays are driven not by money but by a genuine desire to help people and help this planet.  I want a comfortable life and some financial security but I could give two shits about what kind of car I drive, what kind of clothes I wear, how big my house is, or any of that.  Trust me when I was younger I thought all that shit mattered.  IT DOESN'T!  Society is subjective and what you make of it.  Money doesn't nor shouldn't be the driving force behind humanity.   
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Hereford on February 17, 2009, 04:33:07 PM
But in reality, it is.  :-\
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: War-Horse on February 17, 2009, 04:45:04 PM
This goes to the heart of it...why work harder...go out on a limb....invent, produce. If i were a big Pharma company before Congress I'd tell them to go F themselves....who invents and cures people. Not some asshole living in the projects...its people who are smart enough and can afford to go to places like Johns Hopkins, which get grants from VERY RICH PEOPLE, who keep producing and advancing medical science.




You wouldnt work hard for 250k a year?????  You must be a lazy imbecile.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: War-Horse on February 17, 2009, 04:57:48 PM
I think you are COMPLETELY WRONG!  I think that is just what we've been brainwashed to believe.  You act like people for the last 100 years are the only type of people that have lived across this entire planet?  What about indigenous cultures?  Cultures that as scientific and historical evidence has shown lived meager lives, enjoyed lots of peace and harmony and were some of the happiest people ever to live on the Earth.  We are brainwashed idiots who've been controlled into believing we need money and materialism to be happy and innovative and make a difference.  If money is your only motivation in life I feel sorry for you.  I'll never be rich.  I don't want to be rich.  But that doesn't mean I'm not driven for other reasons.  Many people even nowadays are driven not by money but by a genuine desire to help people and help this planet.  I want a comfortable life and some financial security but I could give two shits about what kind of car I drive, what kind of clothes I wear, how big my house is, or any of that.  Trust me when I was younger I thought all that shit mattered.  IT DOESN'T!  Society is subjective and what you make of it.  Money doesn't nor shouldn't be the driving force behind humanity.   





Excellant post!    Its said that if you work for moneys sake, then youll never have enough and be miserable in the meantime.    Find what you love to do and youll never work a day in your life.

I find it funny that these guys are saying they'll lose their drive succeed if 250k was a cap..........there will be a million people in line to run them over!!!
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: 240 is Back on February 17, 2009, 07:54:17 PM
Yeah,much better to give lazy non producing pieces of crap money.Great.Let those who work pay for those that dont.

You're not giving them $.

You're giving them jobs.  They'll make $, and spend it as fast as they earn it, you know that much.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 08:09:26 PM



You wouldnt work hard for 250k a year?????  You must be a lazy imbecile.

great point

I'm self employed and I've had really good years, decent years and shitty years and the years where I made the most money and thus paid the most taxes were better than years where I made less money and paid less taxes.

marginally higher tax rates would not in any way affect my motivation to work and I know a lot of business owners who would react the same way.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 08:33:33 PM



You wouldnt work hard for 250k a year?????  You must be a lazy imbecile.
im not sure but i think what hh6 was trying to say is why try and make over 250,000 if your going to get 100% taxed on anything above it why work harder for money you wont be able to keep?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: War-Horse on February 17, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
im not sure but i think what hh6 was trying to say is why try and make over 250,000 if your going to get 100% taxed on anything above it why work harder for money you wont be able to keep?




Fair enough.  But think of it this way.   If the "brass ring" was set at 250k, revenues ould still be high because now a million dolars would go to 4 people instead of 1.   So the tax base and income tax would be the same.......youd just have more people sharing in the wealth.    And people would fight hard to get there, for sure.
Doesnt it make you sick when a baseball player signs a 100 million dollar deal while some hard working people are losing there homes.   That would create 400 top earners and the player would still get 250k to play baseball.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 08:48:50 PM
im not sure but i think what hh6 was trying to say is why try and make over 250,000 if your going to get 100% taxed on anything above it why work harder for money you wont be able to keep?

I've made more than 250k and I promise you I didn't spend any time thinking about taxes

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 17, 2009, 08:57:38 PM
I've made more than 250k and I promise you I didn't spend any time thinking about taxes



and...
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 08:59:00 PM



Fair enough.  But think of it this way.   If the "brass ring" was set at 250k, revenues ould still be high because now a million dolars would go to 4 people instead of 1.   So the tax base and income tax would be the same.......youd just have more people sharing in the wealth.    And people would fight hard to get there, for sure.
Doesnt it make you sick when a baseball player signs a 100 million dollar deal while some hard working people are losing there homes.   That would create 400 top earners and the player would still get 250k to play baseball.
Its not an issue(at least to me i havent been following the thread) of keeping income tax base high its an issue of spreading around other ppls hard earned money which belongs to them, i understand higher taxes for ppl who make more but 100% tax  ::)...again if this is true this ppl need to have the shit beat out of them.

I think its ridiculous do i think its unfair to a certain extent ya but in general absolutely NOT

Why should somebody expect to gain financially from someone elses success they had no hand in? thats what makes me sick...you earned your money you keep your money im not going to expect you to hand over your money b/c you make more then i do thats assinin. What makes you feel its acceptable to take away hard earned money from one person and give it to another? thats basically stealing...the market and business determines the amount you get paid baseball has the ability to pay their players millions of dollars b/c the business is a billion dollar business and these players have marketable skills. Another job may not pay as well that doesnt mean its ok to take money from a person who makes more then 250,000 a year does it? NOOOOOOO

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 09:00:45 PM
I've made more than 250k and I promise you I didn't spend any time thinking about taxes


if your business was doing good making say 200,000 to 250,000 a year and you had a oppurtunity to make more money but had to take a considerable risk to do so but you knew that anything over 250,000 would be stripped from you and given to others would you take that risk?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
if your business was doing good making say 200,000 to 250,000 a year and you had a oppurtunity to make more money but had to take a considerable risk to do so but you knew that anything over 250,000 would be stripped from you and given to others would you take that risk?

probably

the more money I'm making the more I'm inclined I am to spend money
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 09:20:27 PM
probably

the more money I'm making the more I'm inclined I am to spend money
right but see the problem is you will never make more then 250,000 if you are taxed 100% above that so whats the incentive to take that risk? So if you are already making around say 200 to 250k why take a risk that could end up hurting business when any reward over 250k wont be yours anyway, basically any work over 250k would be for somebody else.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
right but see the problem is you will never make more then 250,000 if you are taxed 100% above that so whats the incentive to take that risk? So if you are already making around say 200 to 250k why take a risk that could end up hurting business when any reward over 250k wont be yours anyway, basically any work over 250k would be for somebody else.

tommy

have you ever made 250k+ ??

the more money I make the less I think about taxes and the more I think about how I can keep making money
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 10:09:02 PM
tommy

have you ever made 250k+ ??

the more money I make the less I think about taxes and the more I think about how I can keep making money

Its tony and No sir i havent im a recent college grad your missing the point your making more money wouldnt mean anything to you b/c it wouldnt be your money, you understand with 100% tax over 250k you personally would never make more then 250k so why take a risk that could pan out badly if your already making about 200k a year if you will never make more then 250k?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 10:43:49 PM
Its tony and No sir i havent im a recent college grad your missing the point your making more money wouldnt mean anything to you b/c it wouldnt be your money, you understand with 100% tax over 250k you personally would never make more then 250k so why take a risk that could pan out badly if your already making about 200k a year if you will never make more then 250k?

lol

yes tony

what I'm trying to express is that if find yourself lucky enough to collect large amounts of money you will not be thinking about taxes

you will mostly be thinking about how to spend your new found money

wtf is this 100% tax you speak of?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 10:48:19 PM
lol

yes tony

what I'm trying to express is that if find yourself lucky enough to collect large amounts of money you will not be thinking about taxes

you will mostly be thinking about how to spend your new found money

wtf is this 100% tax you speak of?
thats what this thread was all about a politician saying ppl are lucky they dont tax 100% over 250k, thats my point if you have a thriving business and have an oppurtunity to make more money but you will be taxed 100% over 250k where is the incentive to take that risk?

My mind would be focused on how to make more of the new found money or how to assure that the new found money keeps coming in.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 17, 2009, 10:49:23 PM
lol

yes tony

what I'm trying to express is that if find yourself lucky enough to collect large amounts of money you will not be thinking about taxes

you will mostly be thinking about how to spend your new found money

wtf is this 100% tax you speak of?

Didn't you read the beginning of the thread?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: gcb on February 17, 2009, 10:58:32 PM
Oh no those poor little rich people - the left is picking on them again  :'(
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 10:59:08 PM
Didn't you read the beginning of the thread?

are you referring to the first post in this thread with the statement from Malcolm A. Smith (D-St. Albans)?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 17, 2009, 11:07:15 PM
thats what this thread was all about a politician saying ppl are lucky they dont tax 100% over 250k, thats my point if you have a thriving business and have an oppurtunity to make more money but you will be taxed 100% over 250k where is the incentive to take that risk?

My mind would be focused on how to make more of the new found money or how to assure that the new found money keeps coming in.

the more I hang out on this site the more I think wtf?

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 17, 2009, 11:21:30 PM
the more I hang out on this site the more I think wtf?


im thinking the same thing where are we getting our wires crossed here straw?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 17, 2009, 11:25:53 PM
the more I hang out on this site the more I think wtf?



lol

He's asking you, What would be your incentive or the point of/to make more money when anything over 250,000 would be 100% taxed, (you would never be making more than 250,000)?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2009, 04:18:33 AM
tommy

have you ever made 250k+ ??

the more money I make the less I think about taxes and the more I think about how I can keep making money


That is not the point.  Who is the govt and these greedy thieves to say what is ok to make or not????
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 18, 2009, 06:38:39 AM
Its tony and No sir i havent im a recent college grad your missing the point your making more money wouldnt mean anything to you b/c it wouldnt be your money, you understand with 100% tax over 250k you personally would never make more then 250k so why take a risk that could pan out badly if your already making about 200k a year if you will never make more then 250k?

 ::)  Who knows everything.....lol. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 18, 2009, 07:40:43 AM
3 pages wasted getting panicked over one ridiculous statement by one state senator about something that will never happen. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 18, 2009, 07:43:35 AM
3 pages wasted getting panicked over one ridiculous statement by one state senator about something that will never happen. 
straw you have a view alot like my friend man always it will never happen...i bet you wouldnt believe that a man could get a country to partake in genocide either, happens all the time bro and turning a blind eye to the small shit is what allows them to get their foot in the door.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2009, 07:44:51 AM
Look at the mortgage plan proposed by ZERO today!

You want to talk about insane and orwellian??? Fuggetaboutit.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 18, 2009, 07:54:49 AM
3 pages wasted getting panicked over one ridiculous statement by one state senator about something that will never happen. 

What happened to you?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 18, 2009, 07:57:54 AM
What happened to you?

They are in denial about their communist cult leader the movement he is inspiring.  They are lashing out. 

Check out the mortgage plan he offered today.  GWB is his worst drunken stupor could not even dream of this.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 18, 2009, 08:04:14 AM
They are in denial about their communist cult leader the movement he is inspiring.  They are lashing out. 

Check out the mortgage plan he offered today.  GWB is his worst drunken stupor could not even dream of this.

There is a growing tide of anger at having to get your own money back with strings attached to it from the Federal government. People are getting really pissed off.

Start with this and watch the WHOLE series, it explains perfectly what I just mentioned. One of the best shows I've heard in a long time. Very promising.

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 18, 2009, 08:06:23 AM
straw you have a view alot like my friend man always it will never happen...i bet you wouldnt believe that a man could get a country to partake in genocide either, happens all the time bro and turning a blind eye to the small shit is what allows them to get their foot in the door.

I said 2 pages ago that I don't even live in NY and no I don't think any state will impose a 100% income tax over 250k.   We don't even know the context of this quote.  Maybe he was making a comment in response to an equally absurd statement or something like that.   Certainly nothing to warrant the last 3 pages of histrionics on this thread.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 18, 2009, 08:07:07 AM
What happened to you?

?
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 18, 2009, 08:28:52 AM
I said 2 pages ago that I don't even live in NY and no I don't think any state will impose a 100% income tax over 250k.   We don't even know the context of this quote.  Maybe he was making a comment in response to an equally absurd statement or something like that.   Certainly nothing to warrant the last 3 pages of histrionics on this thread.
You think they will institute an all gun ban? commit genocide?, spy on us?, take our hard earned money away and give it to ppl who dont work? LOL dude shit like this happens everyday all over the world just b/c this is america doesnt mean it wont or cant happen here.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Straw Man on February 18, 2009, 08:45:09 AM
You think they will institute an all gun ban? commit genocide?, spy on us?, take our hard earned money away and give it to ppl who dont work? LOL dude shit like this happens everyday all over the world just b/c this is america doesnt mean it wont or cant happen here.

they?

you mean our government?

haven't they already done most of those things?

call me crazy but I'm just not worried about being taxed @ 100% over 250k.

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 18, 2009, 10:11:34 AM
mcmannus, i never said happiness was tied to money.  i certainly agree with you there, but it is unwise to deny that the promise of $ is what motivates many people and companies to take major financial risks which lead to new building, products and innovation.  If you knew the majority of your money over 200k will be taken, why put yourself at financial risk with business decisions?  Thats reality.

ie...i would rather take a secure job making $80k per year rather than take major financial risks in private industry knowing when (maybe) you finally turn a good profit after years of sacrifice, its going to be taken from you.  Its a fact that private industry drives far more growth and innovation compared to the government.

And who is the gov to say you make too much?  especially when we are talking about numbers that are not the wealthy elite.  We are seeing the gov trying to take too much control here.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: War-Horse on February 18, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
mcmannus, i never said happiness was tied to money.  i certainly agree with you there, but it is unwise to deny that the promise of $ is what motivates many people and companies to take major financial risks which lead to new building, products and innovation.  If you knew the majority of your money over 200k will be taken, why put yourself at financial risk with business decisions?  Thats reality.

ie...i would rather take a secure job making $80k per year rather than take major financial risks in private industry knowing when (maybe) you finally turn a good profit after years of sacrifice, its going to be taken from you.  Its a fact that private industry drives far more growth and innovation compared to the government.

And who is the gov to say you make too much?  especially when we are talking about numbers that are not the wealthy elite.  We are seeing the gov trying to take too much control here.






What If your boss told you, you get a raise to 250k if you increase the sales per year for the company.   You have NO RISK and you would still work hard to be productive to get that amount.   If you got there and slacked off then you could be replaced by a new guy.   Theres all the incentive you have now and no risk.....
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Dos Equis on February 19, 2009, 10:58:12 AM
NY to Fight Budget Troubles with Tax Hike
A Semi-News/Semi-Satire from AzConservative ^ | 14 Feb 2009 | John Semmens

Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:08:50 PM by John Semmens

The New York State Legislature is proposing a 50% increase in the tax rate applied to incomes over $250,000 a year. Senate Majority Leader, Malcolm A. Smith (D-St. Albans) warned the Republican minority against “obstinate opposition.”

“These members of the economic aristocracy must not be allowed to withhold excessive amounts of society’s resources when they could be used for more important purposes or to accomplish a more equitable distribution of the Earth’s bounty,” Smith said. “They should consider themselves lucky we don’t take everything over $250,000. As the president as so aptly pointed out, no one really needs more than that for a comfortable living.”


________________________ ______________

Pure communists and tyrants. 

Congratulations you fools who vote democrat, you are ushering in communism and you dont even realize it.

Lenin called all of you types " Useful Idiots" of communism.



Unbelievable.   >:(  How do these people get and stay in elected office?  I'm almost speechless. . . .

This ain't Canada.   ::)
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2009, 11:03:05 AM
Unbelievable.   >:(  How do these people get and stay in elected office?  I'm almost speechless. . . .

This ain't Canada.   ::)

Come to NYC and walk around the streets for awhile.  You will learn very quickly why Democrats win here. 
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Hereford on February 19, 2009, 11:07:37 AM
Unbelievable.   >:(  How do these people get and stay in elected office?  I'm almost speechless. . . .

This ain't Canada.   ::)

Or Cali, come hang out here for a day and see why they win here too....
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 19, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
Or Cali, come hang out here for a day and see why they win here too....

Same garbage, different coast line. 

Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: George Whorewell on February 19, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
Yes Ted Kennedy,Barney Frank, Cynthia McKinney  and the litany of tax cheats, drunks and criminals in both houses of Congress should decide how much money I ought to earn.

The democrats remind me of the dweebs who play fantasy baseball/ football etc. ( no offense to anyone here) or that call up sports talk radio stations with wild ideas of trades and the signings of free agents- Very Very Adept at spending other peoples money.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tu_holmes on February 19, 2009, 04:52:42 PM
Still haven't seen this reported anywhere except a place that says SATIRE.
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Dos Equis on February 19, 2009, 04:56:54 PM

The democrats remind me of the dweebs who play fantasy baseball/ football etc. ( no offense to anyone here)

Hey now.  I resemble that remark.   :)
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: tonymctones on February 19, 2009, 05:00:17 PM
Hey now.  I resemble that remark.   :)
LOL me too fantasy football fuking rocks man
Title: Re: N.Y. Democrats - "You are lucky we dont take everything over 250k"
Post by: Dos Equis on February 19, 2009, 06:21:37 PM
LOL me too fantasy football fuking rocks man

Truth.   :)