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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Mars on February 18, 2009, 10:34:19 AM
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Serious question, what is neccesary to turn the democratic US into a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man? could it be possible?
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i don't consider myself a left wing, bleeding heart liberal but i'm sick and tired off all this anarchy/dictatorship talk that goes on the interweb just because the president is a mulatto
seriously, how shallow of you all
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Serious question, what is neccesary to turn the democratic US into a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man? could it be possible?
Next question please.
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nothing to do with obama, just was asking myself if it could be possible with a coup detat.
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just need to find a universally despised scapegoat . . .
oiled up men in thongs (perhaps)?
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didnt hitler changed some laws in which made him in fact some sort of dictator?
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Western liberal democracy has truly failed.
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military coup......
you must have enough "hands on" power to squash immediate adversaries and counter revolutions.
then project martial law....
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military coup......
you must have enough "hands on" power to squash immediate adversaries and counter revolutions.
then project martial law....
thanks for your input. always find this interesting stuff.
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suspension of habius corpus would be a start
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i don't consider myself a left wing, bleeding heart liberal but i'm sick and tired off all this anarchy/dictatorship talk that goes on the interweb just because the president is a mulatto
seriously, how shallow of you all
Has nothing to do with Obama being black. Has everything to do with him being a dicatator wannabe and marxist.
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i don't consider myself a left wing, bleeding heart liberal but i'm sick and tired off all this anarchy/dictatorship talk that goes on the interweb just because the president is a mulatto
seriously, how shallow of you all
Has nothing to do whether he's black, white or mulatto, this man and the liberal media duped people into voting for him without listening to the otherside by pointing out his socialist views, now we are going to have to pay for mistakes made by the people who did vote for him.
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Serious question, what is neccesary to turn the democratic US into a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man? could it be possible?
What do you mean turn it into??? america has always been a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man called a president. Where have you been??? The only democratic event in america is the election which really isn't a election at all...it is just a deceptive act to make the american people feel like they are voting. WHAT A JOKE. Your question should be ...WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO TURN AMERICA INTO A REAL DEMOCRACY?????
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What do you mean turn it into??? america has always been a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man called a president. Where have you been??? The only democratic event in america is the election which really isn't a election at all...it is just a deceptive act to make the american people feel like they are voting. WHAT A JOKE. Your question should be ...WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO TURN AMERICA INTO A REAL DEMOCRACY?????
Washington is loaded down with symbolism just like this and the masses seem to ignore it. For some reason people don't think reoccurring fasci all over Washington warrents 2 minutes of investigation as to its origin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
We are being railroaded into something very dangerous. People better start reading up on the secret destination of America that has been in existence for hundreds of years by the real owners of this land.
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i know that but come on, in comparrison with most countries its free as can be.
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i know that but come on, in comparrison with most countries its free as can be.
For the moment.
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WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO TURN AMERICA INTO A REAL DEMOCRACY?????
If USA had parlamentarism, it would probably be more democratic.
The current political system favors a two-party political aristocracy.
Which hurts the democracy since smaller fringe parties currently cannot get representation in the congress.
Has nothing to do with Obama being black. Has everything to do with him being a dicatator wannabe and marxist.
Exactly what has Obama done that would classify him as a Marxist?
Has nothing to do whether he's black, white or mulatto, this man and the liberal media duped people into voting for him without listening to the otherside by pointing out his socialist views, now we are going to have to pay for mistakes made by the people who did vote for him.
What exactly in his views are socialist?
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Exactly what has Obama done that would classify him as a Marxist?
Stating that he wanted to "Spread the Wealth"
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What would it take?First silence your critics.Perhaps the fairness doctrine.Next,take over the economy.Lets see,maybe the government taking over the banking system.Then start having the people totally relly on the government for their very existance.Lets see,stimulous packages that spend on the poor and motgage plans to aleviate peoples failings.
Id say we are well on the way.
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Stating that he wanted to "Spread the Wealth"
How does that statement make him a Marxist?
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How does that statement make him a Marxist?
that was one of his philosophies
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A dictatorship will not happen here. Balkanization or forced entry into a sort of North American Union is the more likely scenario. And I see this predicated by an economic catastrophe rather than some sort of coup or direct takeover.
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I don't see any of this unless its a gradual slide. Even what we're seeing now could be considered gradual. I think a terror attack followed by the before mention economic collapse could put us over the edge...but armed troops fighting in the streets does not seem very likely.
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that was one of his philosophies
Marxism is a political ideology.
Not a philosophy.
What makes 'spreading the wealth'
a Marxist statement?
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Why, you don't think it is?
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Its not...if u consider marxism and socialism separate but related beliefs....it is however socialism. He said it during the campaign..the centerists, especially in the Republican party thought he'd "rule" from the center. Sorry but Barry is Barry, he's written two books telling everybody how he would fuck up America is his own image and he'd doing it. Imagine that.
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"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
C'mon hedge, what the hell does that sound to you.............
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It sounds like our wonderful President telling us he's gonna take our cash and give it to people who don'
t deserve it.
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Why, you don't think it is?
Definitely not.
Because the statement has nothing to do with Marxism, could've been made by Reagan or a MLM coach.
A Marxist statement would've been if Obama would say that it's a war of the classes going on.
But he's not.
He's instead trying to pull off some argument about stimulus for the economy.
Whereas a Marxist would argue for a class war.
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Oh lord are you dumb.
Do you really think he is going to say that?
Of course not, he will say one thing, and do another, like he is doing now.
He is a marxist and his actions say that to be the case.
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He is a marxist and his actions say that to be the case.
Ok then.
Give me one example of an action by Obama that could be considered Marxist.
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Ok then.
Give me one example of an action by Obama that could be considered Marxist.
Directly taking money from taxpayers who pay their taxes and mortgages and GIVING it directly to people not paying their mortgage. Read the plan, this is a direct subsidy.
The only reason you cant follow this, and what everyone here is telling you, is because YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT OBAMA IS THE MARXIST WE SAID HE WAS BEFORE THE ELECTION!
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This is nothing new. What do you think welfare, Section Eight, food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, and all of that is? Americans have been doling out billions to subsidize others for years now, whether under a Republican or Democratic administration.
Perhaps these entitlements would go to those who truly need it(the disabled, elderly, handicapped) rather than those who are able of body and mind if our politicians and corporations didn't sell out to the Great God of Globalism. It'd be nice if someone had the option to work in a steel plant making a living rather than working at mcDonalds racking up tens of thousands in school and credit debt.
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Directly taking money from taxpayers who pay their taxes and mortgages and GIVING it directly to people not paying their mortgage. Read the plan, this is a direct subsidy.
The only reason you cant follow this, and what everyone here is telling you, is because YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT OBAMA IS THE MARXIST WE SAID HE WAS BEFORE THE ELECTION!
I have no problem with you calling Obama out on bullshit reforms.
But when you claim he is a Marxist that just simply isn't true.
There is nothing that you've posted that is even remotedly close to support such a claim.
What you could accuse Obama of, is being a populist, adding some deals to the stimulus that are 'pork'.
If anything, Obama is a Keynesian, following the principles of Keynes.
This I suppose you could be critical of.
But it ain't Marxism. That's all I'm saying.
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i know that but come on, in comparrison with most countries its free as can be.
In comparison to what countries???? America is one of the most repressive nations on the planet...what has happened is that you are so used to it you can no longer see it. you are taxed to death, denied proper medical healthcare, denied the option of good education, make going to college nearly impossible, have scams of all types run on the citizens to milk them of their money, homes and wealth, you are guinea pigs when it comes to big pharma and the petrochemical industry performing experiments on the masses at will, you have little to NO SAY in government affairs considering you are supposed to be a democracy. C'mon dude wake the fuck up!!!!!!! What citizen voted to waste Trillions on a fake war in Iraq and Afghanistan?? How about the BAILOUT of the banks responsible for the financial and mortgage disaster you are currently experiencing???
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Serious question, what is neccesary to turn the democratic US into a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by one man? could it be possible?
It would take creating a new branch of Govt and enacting some kind of act to encourage patriotism. :)
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Definitely not.
Because the statement has nothing to do with Marxism, could've been made by Reagan or a MLM coach.
A Marxist statement would've been if Obama would say that it's a war of the classes going on.
But he's not.
He's instead trying to pull off some argument about stimulus for the economy.
Whereas a Marxist would argue for a class war.
wouldn't you say spreading the wealth is about war of the classes. Look, its not extreme marxism, but that statement does have hints of it, you're being too technical
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wouldn't you say spreading the wealth is about war of the classes. Look, its not extreme marxism, but that statement does have hints of it, you're being too technical
"extreme Marxism"?
Look.
I think the President should be held responsible and that his actions should be questioned.
But branding him as a Marxist or a Socialist is just name calling.
Instead of trying to focus on the real flaws and discussing them.
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"extreme Marxism"?
Look.
I think the President should be held responsible and that his actions should be questioned.
But branding him as a Marxist or a Socialist is just name calling.
Instead of trying to focus on the real flaws and discussing them.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/feb/20/ap-interview-lahood-eyes-taxing-miles-driven/
HOPE & CHANGE!
FOR THE SUCKERS, DEADBEATS, CULTISTS, MARXISTS, RACISTS, AND MORONS.
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"extreme Marxism"?
Look.
I think the President should be held responsible and that his actions should be questioned.
But branding him as a Marxist or a Socialist is just name calling.
Instead of trying to focus on the real flaws and discussing them.
If the shoe fits.................