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Title: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Mussolini on February 19, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
I am a recovering alcoholic, for years I drank almost daily consuming 8-12 beers a day. I continued to make size + strength gains and was fortunate enough to not get hang overs when I just drank beer. I also had no trouble getting leaner when I had to cut weight. Unfortunatly my liver enzymes were on the high end of a blood test so I decided it was best to stop drinking.

How has alcoholism/drug addiction affected your training?


thanks for you time and for sharing.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 19, 2009, 11:05:59 PM
I am a recovering alcoholic, for years I drank almost daily consuming 8-12 beers a day. I continued to make size + strength gains and was fortunate enough to not get hang overs when I just drank beer. I also had no trouble getting leaner when I had to cut weight. Unfortunatly my liver enzymes were on the high end of a blood test so I decided it was best to stop drinking.

How has alcoholism/drug addiction affected your training?


thanks for you time and for sharing.

Sometimes I'll be laying back in my chair, with a bottle of Jack Daniels....

And i'll just be lookin across the room at my lil' home gym set up, I'll see 495 on the bar... I think to myself ....

"I should go over there and knock out 20 or so bench press reps"

Instead, I lay back and enjoy the smooth, charcoal, amber current flow down my throat.



Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: jr on February 19, 2009, 11:10:25 PM
I used ecstacy and marijuana fairly regularily for a long period of time in the past. The result of this is long term mild/moderate depression and anxiety. How it affects my training is that I am not as motivated as I could be.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 19, 2009, 11:16:18 PM
I am a recovering alcoholic, for years I drank almost daily consuming 8-12 beers a day.

That's not alcoholism. 8 beers is nothing. hahaha have a drink man.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Mussolini on February 19, 2009, 11:22:40 PM
That's not alcoholism. 8 beers is nothing. hahaha have a drink man.

Yah I guess it wasnt that bad, I would pace myself and not usually get "shitfaced". I would start at perhaps 3 in the afternoon and stop at around midnight. Sometimes more on the weekends. I just really liked the taste of cold beer. It was enough to start effecting my liver though so I think cutting out alcohol was the right move.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: robins on February 20, 2009, 12:24:00 AM
I saw your thread on "going into rehab" Mussolini. If i understood correctly your now out of rehab and doing ok? Did you have any troubling moments yet?
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: fredrollon on February 20, 2009, 12:33:06 AM
As long as you weren't drinking those 8-12 beers in one sitting, I wouldn't call you an alcoholic.
You were a heavy drinker,but I don't feel you crossed the dipsomaniac line .

 :)
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 20, 2009, 12:34:10 AM
As long as you weren't drinking those 8-12 beers in one sitting, I wouldn't call you an alcoholic.
You were a heavy drinker,but I don't feel you crossed the dipsomaniac line .

 :)

What, are you stupid? 8-12 0.5l beers every day IS an alcoholic. If you deny that, you probably have an alcohol problem as well.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: jwb on February 20, 2009, 12:38:58 AM
how long was it taking you to drink 12 beers each night?
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: fredrollon on February 20, 2009, 12:48:55 AM
What, are you stupid? 8-12 0.5l beers every day IS an alcoholic. If you deny that, you probably have an alcohol problem as well.

Yes.... :-\
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 20, 2009, 12:51:43 AM
What, are you stupid? 8-12 0.5l beers every day IS an alcoholic. If you deny that, you probably have an alcohol problem as well.

aren't you some mung bean eating 130lb vegan, teetotal, elastic band training type?

8 beers a day is nothing for a real man.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 20, 2009, 12:56:50 AM
aren't you some mung bean eating 130lb vegan, teetotal, elastic band training type?

8 beers a day is nothing for a real man.

Yeah right, Aikido master. STFU.

Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DeltsaForce on February 20, 2009, 01:01:37 AM
Aikido master



We're all cage fighters and martial artists here.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 20, 2009, 01:08:11 AM
Being in the party scene, I used to do a lot of coke and GHB along with steroids, it just seemed to come natural together, I guess like alcohol and smoking is sort of accepted socially. I still party once in a blue moon, but your training (not to mention your body) suffers like crazy from it.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: jaejonna on February 20, 2009, 06:06:09 AM
hahaha addiction is for the weak minded !!!!









time for a drink
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 20, 2009, 06:09:04 AM
hahaha addiction is for the weak minded !!!!


time for a drink

couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: CalvinH on February 20, 2009, 07:47:21 AM
I really had a problem with the shakes in the morning...so I just started drinking earlier,no problems anymore :)
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: rccs on February 20, 2009, 11:06:38 AM
I love drinking but it fucks my body up... I decided that I will only be drinking at weekends... no more drinks during the week... and I was in the 10 beers daily range... I admit I was becoming an alcoholic... latly I was becoming aggressive and I just don't want that...
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: TechnoViking on February 20, 2009, 11:22:14 AM
I am a recovering alcoholic, for years I drank almost daily consuming 8-12 beers a day. I continued to make size + strength gains and was fortunate enough to not get hang overs when I just drank beer. I also had no trouble getting leaner when I had to cut weight. Unfortunatly my liver enzymes were on the high end of a blood test so I decided it was best to stop drinking.

How has alcoholism/drug addiction affected your training?


thanks for you time and for sharing.

Nothing like a cold beer is there...Its just as you get older and the party dies down, fatty liver is not fun...One of the worst things a guy/gal can do is to take hormones and blast the liver with alcohol...Sure you can get away with it when you're younger but make no mistake, it will catch up with everyone sooner or later...Now with all the chemicals in the air/water/food, its just down right crazy to fuck with your liver like this...

I also have a theory that most people who are beer drinkers and have been for some time probably have problems with gluten and don't even know it...Let alone that all these people have an extremely Acidic body...Which means cancer will thrive in this type of system...

Its a shame that GHB is looked upon as Evil because it for sure can do wonders for Alcoholics...



My advice for Alcoholics is to

1.read up on Alkalining your system...

2.read up on gluten and its effect on the system

3. Look into switching to weed over Alcohol and the safest way is to vaporize the weed

4. Forget using hormones unless your liver enzymes are in a safe range and even then, really think about just HRT amounts

5. Whatever you are drinking for water, try to double it...But make sure you are drinking filtered water...Some day we are all going to see why water was the dirty secret of many problems in the world...We have been poisoned for some time now

6. Get yourself off all scrips for depression/anxiety etc...And look into natural "cures"...Including "Bright Light Therapy" ;)

7. Throw most of your vitamins down the toilet...Most are probably poisoning your system

8. Stop drinking milk and/or milk products...This shit grows fungus in the body and cancer thrives off fungus...Beer also grows fungus...So if you are going to drink, switch to Vodka or Wine...

9. Up your cardio to actual jogging...Be able to jog lightly for 5 miles...Walking on a treadmill isn't cardio and never was...

10. Be wary of every doctor on the planet...These people are helping in the killing of innocent humans...Become your own doctor...
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 20, 2009, 11:23:12 AM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263470.0


Quote
thanx mate...appreciate it...i still cant pass one liquor shop on the road and wish i could just walk in get a fifth of remi go home turn on the tube and spend a few hours in oblivion...giggling at the most absurd things...

drunk driving and training drunk were a normal thing....hell teaching drunk ws normal...it felt normal...its only when i wasn't drunk ws when i'd get the jitters and couldn't drive or function...

ask Div..when he ws visiting...i'd ask him to drive EVERY single time we had to go someplace and i had not been drinking...of course my solution ws always to look under my bed..chug 1/2 a pint of straight liquor (emergency stash) and then i ws fine to go...whether be it gym or to get food




as for look better....everywhere i go i keep getting told that(that my skin looks better somehow)...and these were people that didn't know i used to drink like that in the first place...some i had not met in yrs
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: TacoBell on February 20, 2009, 11:26:54 AM
I find training takes too much time away from my drinking.....
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: TechnoViking on February 20, 2009, 11:28:40 AM
Also if you drink a lot and have for some time but never got your liver checked, Cut back on your fat intake...People with Fatty liver can't break down fats like someone with a regular liver...And this will make your system run toxic...
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: rccs on February 20, 2009, 11:41:08 AM
I read somewehere that greentea with sugar can REALLY help your system to get rid of the alcohol drank the night/day before...
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 20, 2009, 11:43:09 AM
My steroid addiction makes my training great
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: TechnoViking on February 20, 2009, 11:53:30 AM
I read somewehere that greentea with sugar can REALLY help your system to get rid of the alcohol drank the night/day before...

i would drop the sugar and add Stevia in its place...
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 20, 2009, 12:41:21 PM

Its a shame that GHB is looked upon as Evil because it for sure can do wonders for Alcoholics...


You have got to be kidding me. Of course it will "do wonders" for alcoholics. You are substituting one drug for another, one addiction for another. I think Mussolini has talked about using GHB too. It's no cure for alcoholism though, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 20, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
You have got to be kidding me. Of course it will "do wonders" for alcoholics. You are substituting one drug for another, one addiction for another. I think Mussolini has talked about using GHB too. It's no cure for alcoholism though, that's for sure.

lol, that's waht addicts do all the time.

Quit the booze and start steroids. Or quit steroids and do crack, like DW.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 20, 2009, 12:52:18 PM
lol, that's waht addicts do all the time.

Quit the booze and start steroids. Or quit steroids and do crack, like DW.

Although some addicts do go to steroids and switch addictions to bodybuilding (or religion or whatever), hormones aren't a substitute for mind drugs like GHB and alcohol. An alcoholic who can stick with just steroids is doing good IMO. An alcoholic who switches to GHB not so much.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: fredrollon on February 20, 2009, 01:46:23 PM
Beer increases bone strength (http://student.bmj.com/issues/02/12/news/446a.php)
 :D

"Researchers at St Thomas's Hospital and King's College London have shown that silicon, found in abundance in beer, increases bone mineralisation in men and premenopausal women. Students who drink beer can continue their favourite pastime, safe in the knowledge that it could be doing them good;
beer increases bone strength."
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 12:36:30 AM
Although some addicts do go to steroids and switch addictions to bodybuilding (or religion or whatever), hormones aren't a substitute for mind drugs like GHB and alcohol. An alcoholic who can stick with just steroids is doing good IMO. An alcoholic who switches to GHB not so much.

hormones are a very potent "mind drug".
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 24, 2009, 12:47:55 AM
Sometimes I only want to rest for sixty seconds between sets, but I come in and check Getbig and end up resting anywhere up to 5 minutes.  My Getbig addiction destroys my training rhythm.

Glad you're out of rehab Mussolini.  Hope you keep on the path, bro.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 12:54:04 AM
Sometimes I only want to rest for sixty seconds between sets, but I come in and check Getbig and end up resting anywhere up to 5 minutes.  My Getbig addiction destroys my training rhythm.

Glad you're out of rehab Mussolini.  Hope you keep on the path, bro.

lol
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 24, 2009, 01:16:06 AM
lol

Dangers of the home gym.

Been meaning to replace this chair with an exercise bike but I have paperwork to do... when I'm not on Getbig.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 01:52:18 AM
Dangers of the home gym.

Been meaning to replace this chair with an exercise bike but I have paperwork to do... when I'm not on Getbig.

i train at home as well, but always stay clear of the PC at these times.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 24, 2009, 02:09:49 AM
i train at home as well, but always stay clear of the PC at these times.

My lack of willpower is sickening.  >:(


I usually allow it if I'm going heavier and don't mind a longer rest.  Shoulders are coming good at last so I want to get back to some 5x5.  Many is the night tho when I should have done the paperwork first and surfed Getbig after.  :-[
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 02:12:35 AM
My lack of willpower is sickening.  >:(


I usually allow it if I'm going heavier and don't mind a longer rest.  Shoulders are coming good at last so I want to get back to some 5x5.  Many is the night tho when I should have done the paperwork first and surfed Getbig after.  :-[

getbig is worse than crack.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 24, 2009, 03:07:00 AM
I abuse alcohol on a daily basis. I cannot remember the last day I haven't had a drink. I'm hung over as a bastard right now. Four glasses of champagne, two glasses of white, one glass of red, two martini's, and a cognac at the end of dinner. Shoulders and tri's this morning. It doesn't effect my training at all. Got ten reps with the 75s on DB press's. Diet yes. I ate chicken wings, fries, and a cheese burger at Hotters afterwords. Grease is the best cure for a hangover for me.
a man who's into his disease :)
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: GetItOnNY on February 24, 2009, 06:04:30 AM
Try attending a AAA meeting .There is good support there, and sometimes some hot single girls to hook up with
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 06:09:19 AM
Try attending a AAA meeting .There is good support there, and sometimes some hot single girls to hook up with

Fight Club, anyone?
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: CalvinH on February 24, 2009, 06:23:42 AM
lol, that's waht addicts do all the time.

Quit the coke and start steroids.





Hi candydrizzle.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: DK II on February 24, 2009, 06:39:17 AM


Hi candydrizzle.

quit the coke and start the cock.

  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: The Ugly on February 24, 2009, 07:07:58 AM
Try attending a AAA meeting

?
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Condor on February 24, 2009, 07:13:03 AM
I consider myself a heavy drinker, and it hasn't really affected my training.  A good cardio session seems to sweat it out of me.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: burn2live on February 24, 2009, 07:22:58 AM
I used to drink heavily and very frequently. Quit for 18 months. Tbh I don't think I had grown up enough to know how to deal with it. When I drink now I would drink a lot, but not to the point where I am shitfaced (unless it's a special occasion). I know that I am "binge drinking" but then it only takes 3-4 beers to reach the point of "binge drinking".

For me 8-12 beers in a 9 hour period isn't too bad, though if it's done daily and you become reliant I could see how it could become a problem.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Tapeworm on February 24, 2009, 07:28:24 AM
?
:D

"My name is Bob and I'm an alcoholic."

"I'm Jim...my wife Louise.  We're planning a roadtrip to the Grand Canyon."
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Mussolini on February 24, 2009, 07:54:25 AM
I saw your thread on "going into rehab" Mussolini. If i understood correctly your now out of rehab and doing ok? Did you have any troubling moments yet?

I've been sober for almost 4 months now, rehab was great, I feel my work ethic has improved both on the job and in the gym.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: The Ugly on February 24, 2009, 12:42:52 PM
:D

"My name is Bob and I'm an alcoholic."

"I'm Jim...my wife Louise.  We're planning a roadtrip to the Grand Canyon."


Hi, Jim.

Louise.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Bossa on February 24, 2009, 03:21:40 PM
I'm trying to break my cheeseburger addiction....the headaches have been brutal
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 24, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
All kidding aside Iv'e been back training for almost 3 months now and i haven't so much as had a drink, and i'm in better shape now than i have been in a long time.

 I ALWAYS get a good workout in now and I never miss a day because i got blown out the night before.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: Eisenherz on February 24, 2009, 04:21:59 PM
I drink beer every day, but only when I'm actualy thirsty, therefore I dont have a drinking problem.

Donkey you seem like one of thouse guys that drink ziegenmilch at parties.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 24, 2009, 04:23:47 PM
Try attending a AAA meeting .There is good support there, and sometimes some hot single girls to hook up with
yes switch addictions...drop booze and become a bigger sex addict
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 24, 2009, 04:26:54 PM
All kidding aside Iv'e been back training for almost 3 months now and i haven't so much as had a drink, and i'm in better shape now than i have been in a long time.

 I ALWAYS get a good workout in now and I never miss a day because i got blown out the night before.
good news for a change
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: mitchyboy on February 24, 2009, 04:59:05 PM
I have been a hardcore alcoholic since i was probably 16 or 17, thanks dad :P. I now rarely drink mabye 2 -3 times a year.
 It sounds realy cheesy but working out going to the gym did save my life. I'm 32 by the way. If i do "slip up" and drink to much, it destroys what feels like 10 pounds of muscle overnight. I think mabye the younger guys don't realize how bad its fucking them up, even though they feel alright.
Title: Re: Current or former addicts or alcoholics? How has it affected your training?
Post by: the anabolic mon on February 24, 2009, 05:01:53 PM
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Time fo' a Big Mac crack attack !