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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Eyeball Chambers on February 20, 2009, 03:27:39 PM
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Since everyone here knows everything, ;D why don't we make economic predictions? (on the record) Then a little while down the road we'll be able to look back and see who was right. 8)
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i'll go first. ;)
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bush has systematically destroyed this country financially.
our country is heading for a severe recession as a result of his failed policies.
in the coming months, the stock market will come crashing down.
mark my words.
move your money out of stocks and into cd's, cash, money markets ect.
preservation of capital is key. if you do nothing, kiss your money goodbye.
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I believe the only viable way to make a living will be the oldest profession in history...prostitution.i f you have a wife or girlfriend or a mom.start talking to them now about possibly selling there ass in the future.If you don't have any puss to barter with you might have to do a little G4P.This will all come to reality within the next 6 months.
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dow will bottom out at 5500 or 6000, it's true value.
the media will hype a depression because it sells toilet paper and leads to captive audiences.
the place will slowly recover in the next 4 years.
we'll all develop a numbness to it and won't remember the great times of 98-99.
everything's gonna be alright.
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Cool 8)
What do you think MB_722, SAMSON123, Coach, Hugo Chavez, tonymctones, Youandme, liberalismo, and Bindare_Dundat?
P.S. I'm saving this thread so don't bother editing your posts. ;D
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obama will make a great recover for the recession/depression and will be elected 2nd term after helping out the american people who have foreclosed with a new rate and principle reductions. Rates will be zero percent for the first 10 years in home and rise to 6% as the standard principle reductions will be based on the average of home lost value from all states.
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we're looking at a 16-18months+ recession; 5 quarters; it'll take at least Q1- mid Q2 to bottom out; that's just my guest but based on what I see in the way corporate America are re-structuring themselves and investing "significantly" in their IT infrastructure and positioning themselves, it looks like they see the same thing.
I'll take a bet with you shmoes, If by june-july the GDP is still shrinking and corporate results are still declining, I'll go on a diet until my gay abs show up...
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Well, it have been said that Astrology is an exact science compared to economics.
Anyway, I guess that in about 1 year things will settle down, but about a year or so later we will get an aftershock from all the trillions that were dumped into the world economy,also after seeing what happend government and companies are making great revisions, so it won't be the same economy that's for sure.
No on a side note....if every country would have thrown in an extra billion to give research groups and startup companies it would probably produce much better results than all these fucking banks!
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Banks will be "temporarily" nationalized.
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National average for home prices will lower to $135,000 or less in 8 months.
2-3 of the Largest banks will be nationilized. In an oversite way....not total control way.
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Dow will go to below 7K by end of next week. The true value of the dow will be around 4K. S&P dipping below 750 will cause the dow to plummet next week.
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epic shitstorm. depression. masses starving around the world. terror attacks in Canada, US and Mexico. Strong movement toward North American Union. escalated war on terror and possibly world war. Massive increase in police state. Most of the shit I've been saying all along. Hope I'm totally wrong. I think we're headed toward these things at some point in the near future, next 1 to 8 years. It can be changed but It doesn't look promising imo.
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I think were are heading for what Celente and Schiff have been saying. They have been right to so far.
I also think ZERO is waging a war on middle class people and nothing will improve until he is gone.
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I think were are heading for what Celente and Schiff have been saying. They have been right to so far.
I also think ZERO is waging a war on middle class people and nothing will improve until he is gone.
oh, Zero is Obama... No wonder I haven't understood any of your posts lol... I kept thinking what the fuck zero zero zero. so many of your posts had me shrugging, huh?
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oh, Zero is Obama... No wonder I haven't understood any of your posts lol... I kept thinking what the fuck zero zero zero. so many of your posts had me shrugging, huh?
Many people refer to him as "0". That is the same as ZERO.
Also:
ZERO business experience.
ZERO laws written or authored
ZERO executive experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
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Many people refer to him as "0". That is the same as ZERO.
Also:
ZERO business experience.
ZERO laws written or authored
ZERO executive experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
Yeah but he did use cocaine so I'm sure a lot of Americans can relate to him in that way :)
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Yeah but he did use cocaine so I'm sure a lot of Americans can relate to him in that way :)
Ha ha!
Check out the thread about the new energy taxes he is pushing.
ZERO has no idea the discontent he is brewing.
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Many people refer to him as "0". That is the same as ZERO.
Also:
ZERO business experience.
ZERO laws written or authored
ZERO executive experience
ZERO foreign policy experience
oh shit... no wonder I didn't know. Each time I hear someone on the right spew about Obama and then open their big mouth wide, I stick a boot in it ;D Must have been when they went to say zero. :D Sorry, couldn't help it, natural reflex...
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Yeah but he did use cocaine so I'm sure a lot of Americans can relate to him in that way :)
Bush...
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Look, GWB was horrible his second term, awful.
But that does not mean Obama gets a free ride to do whatever the heck he wants either.
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Look, GWB was horrible his second term, awful.
But that does not mean Obama gets a free ride to do whatever the heck he wants either.
that was about his cocaine accusation on Obama. When it was coming out about Bush, we were told it didn't matter, it was the past, he was young and made a few mistakes, move on. Well if righties say we had to write it off to being young, didn't they just set a precedent and make it a little hypocritical to say I have to care now, when I was supposed to drop it then?
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I was not the one who cared about the coke problem Obama had.
I deeply care about his marxism problem and his ZERO business experience problem.
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I was not the one who cared about the coke problem Obama had.
I deeply care about his marxism problem and his ZERO business experience problem.
George W Bush had business experience: He drove the majority of his businesses to the ground.
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George W Bush had business experience: He drove the majority of his businesses to the ground.
In his second term ,yes he did. GWB was horrible his second term.
Obama just picked up where GWB left off.
By raising energy taxes, what does this jerk think he is going to accomplish????
Higher costs, more unemployed, brown outs, and more govt agencies.
Nice. Change I can believe in.
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In his second term ,yes he did. GWB was horrible his second term.
Obama just picked up where GWB left off.
By raising energy taxes, what does this jerk think he is going to accomplish????
Higher costs, more unemployed, brown outs, and more govt agencies.
Nice. Change I can believe in.
No, I'm talking about his own businesses.
He sucked at that too.
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I think were are heading for what Celente and Schiff have been saying. They have been right to so far.
I also think ZERO is waging a war on middle class people and nothing will improve until he is gone.
You think middle class is 250k and above? Your a dumbass. ::)
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You think middle class is 250k and above? Your a dumbass. ::)
LOL ;D
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You think middle class is 250k and above? Your a dumbass. ::)
I live in NY - 250k is not rich at all. People at that income pay 50% taxes here. So you have 125k to live on in the most expensive state where RE taxes are huge, as well as everything else.
Additionally, genius, higher energy taxes, interest on the stimulus debt, are all costs to the taxpayer at all wage levels.
In NYC alone we have 40,000 taxpayers who pay over 50% of the revenue.
If you think that targeting those people is smart, think again.
If those people move or simply refuse to pay in any more, the whole ponzi scheme collapses.
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I live in NY - 250k is not rich at all. People at that income pay 50% taxes here. So you have 125k to live on in the most expensive state where RE taxes are huge, as well as everything else.
Additionally, genius, higher energy taxes, interest on the stimulus debt, are all costs to the taxpayer at all wage levels.
In NYC alone we have 40,000 taxpayers who pay over 50% of the revenue.
If you think that targeting those people is smart, think again.
If those people move or simply refuse to pay in any more, the whole ponzi scheme collapses.
obama needs money to help his brothers
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I live in NY - 250k is not rich at all. People at that income pay 50% taxes here. So you have 125k to live on in the most expensive state where RE taxes are huge, as well as everything else.
Additionally, genius, higher energy taxes, interest on the stimulus debt, are all costs to the taxpayer at all wage levels.
In NYC alone we have 40,000 taxpayers who pay over 50% of the revenue.
If you think that targeting those people is smart, think again.
If those people move or simply refuse to pay in any more, the whole ponzi scheme collapses.
If you make around 250k then you are a success story.......not middle class. Middle class is 50k-80k. You'll get no sympathy for excuses as to cost of living from anyone. Why dont you move and double your money from cost of living?
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I live in NY - 250k is not rich at all. People at that income pay 50% taxes here. So you have 125k to live on in the most expensive state where RE taxes are huge, as well as everything else.
Additionally, genius, higher energy taxes, interest on the stimulus debt, are all costs to the taxpayer at all wage levels.
In NYC alone we have 40,000 taxpayers who pay over 50% of the revenue.
If you think that targeting those people is smart, think again.
If those people move or simply refuse to pay in any more, the whole ponzi scheme collapses.
I feel everyone should pay the same percentage in taxes whether you make 20K or 250K. But 250K is hardly middle class dude come on.
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Fool, the tax increases hit people who net less than 250k who run a small business and file their taxes on a Schedule C.
Many of these businesses do report income of over 250k gross, but the net is less than that after taxes.
If you took ten minutes to educate yourself on taxes, you would realize that 250k of income is the same for a salaried employee as it is a small business that reports income on a Schedule C.
Plus, many businesses have their families where they are lcoated, client base, customers, projects etc.
250k is a good salary, but not rich.
Rich is people making over a million a year net taxes.
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I feel everyone should pay the same percentage in taxes whether you make 20K or 250K. But 250K is hardly middle class dude come on.
Let me ask you this:
In NYC - the average apartment is about 1 million dollars.
In Nassau and Westchester, the average tax bills for property are the highest in the nation, most well over 10k per year.
we also have a 9% state income tax surcharge on top of income tax which is 36%.
So, a guy at 250k is paying 45% income taxes, not including SS and RE taxes and lives in one of the most costly places in the nation.
Its a great salary, yes, but not rich.
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I live in NY - 250k is not rich at all. People at that income pay 50% taxes here. So you have 125k to live on in the most expensive state where RE taxes are huge, as well as everything else.
Additionally, genius, higher energy taxes, interest on the stimulus debt, are all costs to the taxpayer at all wage levels.
In NYC alone we have 40,000 taxpayers who pay over 50% of the revenue.
If you think that targeting those people is smart, think again.
If those people move or simply refuse to pay in any more, the whole ponzi scheme collapses.
That's absolutely true. It's pretty simplistic to say $250K is the promised land, regardless of the family situation and cost of living.
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That's absolutely true. It's pretty simplistic to say $250K is the promised land, regardless of the family situation and cost of living.
These morons have no clue how things work in the real business world.
They think you get a 250k check deposited in your account.
250k is really 125K. Is 125k rich??????
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Thread derailed. Nice job guys. ::)
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These morons have no clue how things work in the real business world.
They think you get a 250k check deposited in your account.
250k is really 125K. Is 125k rich??????
True. And if you're a small business owner, 250k might be less than 125k, depending on overhead.
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333386 is right guys, it's all about where you live.
You guys living in the south think 40K is big $$$, and it just might be there, but in California or NY 40K puts you at a poverty standard of living in most urban areas.
250K is NOT that much money in some places. Plus as he said, you lose half of it right out the gate.
I'm all for the majority of taxes being from sales taxes.., but the left seems to hate that.
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True. And if you're a small business owner, 250k might be less than 125k, depending on overhead.
Do your bloody job and clean this thread up.
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Do your bloody job and clean this thread up.
Quit crying. ::)
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Quit crying. ::)
I never complain about threads being derailed but this has more of you jerks debating what is middle class then predicting anything. Go start a new fucking topic.
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I never complain about threads being derailed but this has more of you jerks debating what is middle class then predicting anything. Go start a new fucking thread.
Grow up already. This is a free message board. Either follow the discussion, contribute, or ignore the thread. Almost every thread on this board has "off topic" posts. Get over it and quit acting like a big baby. ::)
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Grow up already. This is a free message board. Either follow the discussion, contribute, or ignore the thread. Almost every thread on this board has "off topic" posts. Get over it and quit acting like a big baby. ::)
I think this thread would be a great sticky. Alot of guys here cant remember what they said a year ago. Since this year could be an epic one in our history......put it in as a sticky and delete our unrelated subjects.
Then we can fight about all the quotes and say, "What i meant was...." 8)
BTW 33333. Ive had a corporation for 12yrs. Im familiar with tax differences in business and personal. Im also aware that my accountant is paid well to minimize my tax base quarterly. And im aware of the tax cuts that GWB enacted 2x's only profited the upper class and NO TRICKLE DOWN HAPPENED AS IT WAS FUNNELED INTO OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS OR LAUNDERED in some other fake companies.
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Not to be hysterical or anything. For some it will be okay and for others it will be absolute hell. More people will experience it thats all.
I can agree with Hugo here.
epic shitstorm. depression. masses starving around the world. terror attacks in Canada, US and Mexico. Strong movement toward North American Union. escalated war on terror and possibly world war. Massive increase in police state. Most of the shit I've been saying all along. Hope I'm totally wrong. I think we're headed toward these things at some point in the near future, next 1 to 8 years. It can be changed but It doesn't look promising imo.
To add to it, our privacy and civil rights are going to be thrown out the window.
I don't know why, for some reason I think this whole situation is a good thing. People will be more responsible; financially, politically. People won't be so apathetic to their government and big business. It will be a struggle though. <--- Understatement.
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Not to be hysterical or anything. For some it will be okay and for others it will be absolute hell. More people will experience it thats all.
I can agree with Hugo here.
To add to it, our privacy and civil rights are going to be thrown out the window.
I don't know why, for some reason I think this whole situation is a good thing. People will be more responsible; financially, politically. People won't be so apathetic to their government and big business. It will be a struggle though. <--- Understatement.
Been waiting for your post in this thread.
Thanks 8)
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I think there will be signs of recovery already by the end of the summer.
The stock markets will be going up during the fall, with unemployment still fairly high.
Then the next spring main street will start to recover.
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Dude, we are only beginning the mess and nowheres near the end.
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I think there will be signs of recovery already by the end of the summer.
The stock markets will be going up during the fall, with unemployment still fairly high.
Then the next spring main street will start to recover.
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I think there will be signs of recovery already by the end of the summer.
The stock markets will be going up during the fall, with unemployment still fairly high.
Then the next spring main street will start to recover.
Yeah, the Dow will soar from 12 to 13 by Christmas.
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buy tons of stocks right now, check back in a year or 2 and it will be worth a shitload more.