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Can anyone verify this?
The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather intelligence, then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer, according to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will participate.
Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will conduct reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys will be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer will be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if residents have seen the suspect.
Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to participate in the drill, Kots noted.
"Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-depth searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance with the residents' wishes.
"One of the techniques we use in today's political environment is cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and position to protect him."
During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures and possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command and control, and to simulate medevacs.
The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected arms dealer.
Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday, April 5.
A meeting to give residents more information and accept volunteers will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American Legion hall.
Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend drill for April.
"We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in stability, support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other skills needed for deployment in an urban environment.
"This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills of the unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's understanding of military operations."
The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill itself.
"It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing us to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-playing."
"We really want to get as much information out there as possible, because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of Arcadia."
http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=7451&TM=55111.9
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I need waaay more then that but the Marines do this alot, and have done so for years. We did it in Manchester NH, back in the 90's. The Green Berets do their final exercise during selection, in public or in areas with civi's. Delta also does the same thing.
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I need waaay more then that but the Marines do this alot, and have done so for years. We did it in Manchester NH, back in the 90's. The Green Berets do their final exercise during selection, in public or in areas with civi's. Delta also does the same thing.
Did any training involve going door to door looking for "weapons dealers"?
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If u look at the article it sort of mentions that they will work with the locals and most likely hide stuff etc. They might get a volunteer to be the guy they're looking for. They aren't just rolling up and conducting this crap.
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The Green Berets do their final exercise during selection, in public or in areas with civi's.
How tuff is it to become a Green Beret? They've always interested the hell out of me.
Could you have made it? ???
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It's both a gut check and a thinking/psycological course that lasts 6 months. I'm Ranger qualified but not jump qualified..making me a leg Ranger. I would have had to jump as a Green Beret and I'm not in anyway a huge fan of that. I hated Ranger school but had been through several other schools with the Army and Marines that made it somewhat easier despite the lack of food. Green Beret training is very demending but it goes beyond just physical so I'm not sure. I've done most of the Cold Weather/Mountain training that both the Army and Marines have but the only school I have ever really wanted was Dive school down in Key West...its an asskicker beyond belief.
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It's both a gut check and a thinking/psycological course that lasts 6 months. I'm Ranger qualified but not jump qualified..making me a leg Ranger. I would have had to jump as a Green Beret and I'm not in anyway a huge fan of that. I hated Ranger school but had been through several other schools with the Army and Marines that made it somewhat easier despite the lack of food. Green Beret training is very demending but it goes beyond just physical so I'm not sure. I've done most of the Cold Weather/Mountain training that both the Army and Marines have but the only school I have ever really wanted was Dive school down in Key West...its an asskicker beyond belief.
Wow, I guessyou were "tortured" royally by the liberals' definition of the word.
Maybe you have a law suit!
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Hardcore.
HH6 why do they need Ranger tankers?
Aren't Rangers typically only infantry?
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It's both a gut check and a thinking/psycological course that lasts 6 months. I'm Ranger qualified but not jump qualified..making me a leg Ranger. I would have had to jump as a Green Beret and I'm not in anyway a huge fan of that. I hated Ranger school but had been through several other schools with the Army and Marines that made it somewhat easier despite the lack of food. Green Beret training is very demending but it goes beyond just physical so I'm not sure. I've done most of the Cold Weather/Mountain training that both the Army and Marines have but the only school I have ever really wanted was Dive school down in Key West...its an asskicker beyond belief.
Cool, thanks for the info.
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It's both a gut check and a thinking/psycological course that lasts 6 months. I'm Ranger qualified but not jump qualified..making me a leg Ranger. I would have had to jump as a Green Beret and I'm not in anyway a huge fan of that. I hated Ranger school but had been through several other schools with the Army and Marines that made it somewhat easier despite the lack of food. Green Beret training is very demending but it goes beyond just physical so I'm not sure. I've done most of the Cold Weather/Mountain training that both the Army and Marines have but the only school I have ever really wanted was Dive school down in Key West...its an asskicker beyond belief.
so you could've been a ranger, but its not really your thing right?
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Dude unless ur tabbed don't even get into this with me...There is a big difference between gutting out Ranger school and serving in a Ranger battalion.....Tankers and all Officer MOS's can get slot's. It depends on money, time..assignment's etc. I was headed to a unit that was part of the 18th Airborne Corps and paid for the school. Guys headed to Germany and the heavy divisions had a harder time but the Army paid...this was back in the mid 90's. its easier now to get the slot as the Army wants as many qualified Officers as possible.
Jumping out of an airplane isn't my thing.....beyond that I never gave selection much thought.
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Why don't they make it like operating in a real war zone... train in LA!
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Dude unless ur tabbed don't even get into this with me...There is a big difference between gutting out Ranger school and serving in a Ranger battalion.....Tankers and all Officer MOS's can get slot's. It depends on money, time..assignment's etc. I was headed to a unit that was part of the 18th Airborne Corps and paid for the school. Guys headed to Germany and the heavy divisions had a harder time but the Army paid...this was back in the mid 90's. its easier now to get the slot as the Army wants as many qualified Officers as possible.
Jumping out of an airplane isn't my thing.....beyond that I never gave selection much thought.
fair enough.
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And if u want to be brutaly honest...the thought of jumping out of a plane scares the shit outa me. Two reasons....first everybody is scared of heights over 50 feet or something but thats part of it, 2nd I have way to many friends who have hundreds of jumps who related horror story after horror story...fucked up backs..necks death....screw that..the military in dangerous enough.
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And if u want to be brutaly honest...the thought of jumping out of a plane scares the shit outa me. Two reasons....first everybody is scared of heights over 50 feet or something but thats part of it, 2nd I have way to many friends who have hundreds of jumps who related horror story after horror story...fucked up backs..necks death....screw that..the military in dangerous enough.
Pussy.
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Yup...the thought of being drowned in dive school scares me a hell of alot less then doing a mass tac off the back of a C-130. If I could tell u all the horror stories about guys burning in...u might never even fly again.
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I've done both.
Both are scary as shit. Skydiving just a little bit more so...
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As for civi skydiving...i wouldn't do that either but it might be a bit safer. The guys who go through both Airborne and Jumpmaster are extremely well trained but...wind...weather...2 00 dudes jumping with u...equipment etc. To much shit can go wrong. One guy takes ur wind with to little room to re-inflate and ur done.
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Yup...the thought of being drowned in dive school scares me a hell of alot less then doing a mass tac off the back of a C-130. If I could tell u all the horror stories about guys burning in...u might never even fly again.
thats one of the reasons i dread going testing for the military
i do NOT want to be thrown in to the atlantic...i can swim in pools but i have a phobia about huge bodies of water. Love sailing sure but don't throw me in there
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Thats at dive school...and they drown u in a pool...ur final eval is night navigation to a point on the beach. U get dropped about a mile off shore and have to use ur compass underwater, no surfacing, and head straight to it. U can swim to within a few feet of the beach and then swim to ur point either. If u went into the service all u'd have to do is the pool and its very easy. Its not drown proofing as mentioned above.
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HH i'll bet you'd be like Ashton Kootcher in that coast guard movie.
Holding your breath for like 10 minutes and shit... :P
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Thats at dive school...and they drown u in a pool...ur final eval is night navigation to a point on the beach. U get dropped about a mile off shore and have to use ur compass underwater, no surfacing, and head straight to it. U can swim to within a few feet of the beach and then swim to ur point either. If u went into the service all u'd have to do is the pool and its very easy. Its not drown proofing as mentioned above.
doesn't the navy have some sort of testing in huge bodies of water, not in pools?
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As long as I don't have to jump out of a plane. Its actually much easier to do what u have to on the bottom of the pool then struggling to stay afloat. Sink..breath..jump up and get more air...sink. As long as u can take it mentally and believe the divers will come get u if u black-out, then ur good to go. Once they revive u, back into the pool. I won't get to find out as there isn't much call for 34 year old dive qualed tankers.
2nd....thats Seals and I'm sure the Army does as well but I was talking about the initial testing. All basic training courses involving water is done in a pool.
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I have a friend, he's stupid as shit, but extremely tuff/good shape.
He's going to be an Airborne something, I forget...
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That's right. Alex Jones.
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Can anyone verify this?
The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather intelligence, then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer, according to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will participate.
Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will conduct reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys will be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer will be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if residents have seen the suspect.
Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to participate in the drill, Kots noted.
"Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-depth searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance with the residents' wishes.
"One of the techniques we use in today's political environment is cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and position to protect him."
During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures and possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command and control, and to simulate medevacs.
The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected arms dealer.
Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday, April 5.
A meeting to give residents more information and accept volunteers will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American Legion hall.
Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend drill for April.
"We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in stability, support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other skills needed for deployment in an urban environment.
"This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills of the unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's understanding of military operations."
The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill itself.
"It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing us to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-playing."
"We really want to get as much information out there as possible, because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of Arcadia."
http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=7451&TM=55111.9
These so called URBAN TRAININGS are covers for practicing for starting MARTIAL LAW and locking down and controlling communities...even whole cities. When the Oklahoma City building in america was blown up (control demolition) there was a "DRILL" being conducted that day supposedly anticipating someone blowing up the building (what a coincidence), in 1993 there was a military "DRILL" being conducted on the World Trade center and wouldn't you know a bomb went off in the building that day...fasts forward to 2001 a military/police drill was being conducted at the World Trade Center on September 11 and guess what....airplanes crashed into the buildings and strategically placed bombs in the building controlled demolitioned it to the ground. So we can surmise here that america is being prepared for an all out military/police assault on the nation and people as things go fast from BAD TO WORST given the economic situation that exists in america. What you read about happening in a small town like Carroll Iowa can quickly be transferred to big cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, San Fransisco etc etc etc...YOUR POLICE STATE IS ABOUT TO SHOW ITSELF....
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These so called URBAN TRAININGS are covers for practicing for starting MARTIAL LAW and locking down and controlling communities...even whole cities. When the Oklahoma City building in america was blown up (control demolition) there was a "DRILL" being conducted that day supposedly anticipating someone blowing up the building (what a coincidence), in 1993 there was a military "DRILL" being conducted on the World Trade center and wouldn't you know a bomb went off in the building that day...fasts forward to 2001 a military/police drill was being conducted at the World Trade Center on September 11 and guess what....airplanes crashed into the buildings and strategically placed bombs in the building controlled demolitioned it to the ground. So we can surmise here that america is being prepared for an all out military/police assault on the nation and people as things go fast from BAD TO WORST given the economic situation that exists in america. What you read about happening in a small town like Carroll Iowa can quickly be transferred to big cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, San Fransisco etc etc etc...YOUR POLICE STATE IS ABOUT TO SHOW ITSELF....
Why all this negativity? The Kenyan is ushering in an era of progress and hope. There's a few similarities between one of his official logos and the eye of Lucifer but it's nothing to worry about :-\
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These so called URBAN TRAININGS are covers for practicing for starting MARTIAL LAW and locking down and controlling communities...even whole cities. When the Oklahoma City building in america was blown up (control demolition) there was a "DRILL" being conducted that day supposedly anticipating someone blowing up the building (what a coincidence), in 1993 there was a military "DRILL" being conducted on the World Trade center and wouldn't you know a bomb went off in the building that day...fasts forward to 2001 a military/police drill was being conducted at the World Trade Center on September 11 and guess what....airplanes crashed into the buildings and strategically placed bombs in the building controlled demolitioned it to the ground. So we can surmise here that america is being prepared for an all out military/police assault on the nation and people as things go fast from BAD TO WORST given the economic situation that exists in america. What you read about happening in a small town like Carroll Iowa can quickly be transferred to big cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta, San Fransisco etc etc etc...YOUR POLICE STATE IS ABOUT TO SHOW ITSELF....
Yeah...ur an idiot.
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When I was in the Army Guard we participated in a similar exercise in Poland. There were about ten countries participating including Russia and we used a civilian town with civilians. This is how the military trains now a days it mostly urban. When I first enlisted in 2000, we would go out to the woods set up a perimeter and pretty much re-enacted scenes from platoon going out on patrols and ambushes. So for all the Ct guys here, HH6 is ten times the soldier I ever was and everything he says is completely true from my experiences.
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No I'm not..thanks for u service bro. The real problem is that the American public and the US military are completely disconnected. Less then 1% serve....we are generally based far from east coast media and population centers...we're secretive about what we do (a neccesity, but a fact regardless). We generally are fairly conservative and represent a mindset that does not exits now or maybe ever, in this country.
U guys don't have anything to worry about from this. We've been doing for year.
Also Mac makes a great point about Russia...we conduct wargames with them every year...its rudimentary but we do it. I didn't realize they conducted them in Poland....as they do hold them at Graf in Germany at CMTC.
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Ya, it was back in 2004 in Poland. There were about ten different countries there with 1 or 2 platoons. It was more of a friendly, lets train together and then have a FTX. Initially the Russians had to sleep in a diffrent area because the Germans and Poles really didn't want them there. They drove down with about 6 BTRs and about a platoon. It was a real eye opener seeing them up close and how cruel their officers are to their men. They have very very low moral and basically a weapon, shovel and blanket. This reminds me of another thread when some idiots here were talking how they would "kick our ass" in a conflict.
On another note, I was in Moldova in 2006 participating in another multi country training mission without Russia. We were about a week into the excerise and the Russians freaked out and word was they thought we were amassing some type of invasion force, to invade a part of moldova (transdinesia?) which wanted to beak away and go back to a Russian state. We had to stop and a couple Russian officers came in to see what was going on.