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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: madmax on February 21, 2009, 11:00:53 AM
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NO.
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No, but a natural can do it with steroids.
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Depends on if he posts here at getbig. Getbig gives you wings.
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Its a trick question,
There's no such thing as a natural bodybuilder.
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attempting that type of weight is a terrible idea for a "bodybuiler" period
ask Layne Norton
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I believe Onlyme did it naturally.
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A guy named Dennis Ceiri holds the world record in the 198 lb class . 634lbs. he has been on the cover of Powerlifting USA mag all drug free and tested
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A guy named Dennis Ceiri holds the world record in the 198 lb class . 634lbs. he has been on the cover of Powerlifting USA mag all drug free and tested
634 was not raw, however, I do believe he benched 535 raw, just like "the coach". But tested does not mean natural my friend.
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A guy named Dennis Ceiri holds the world record in the 198 lb class . 634lbs. he has been on the cover of Powerlifting USA mag all drug free and tested
The olympics are "drug free and tested." Do you think there are olympians who use and haven't been caught?
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This guy caims he is natural and benches 475 pounds for reps and benches 500 for 1 rep ;)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kevinvu34/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kevinvu34/)
He also competes in "Natural" bodybuilding contests
Where is Quaker when you need him to expose this fool!!
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634 was not raw, however, I do believe he benched 535 raw, just like "the coach". But tested does not mean natural my friend.
I hope you're kidding?
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This guy caims he is natural and benches 475 pounds for reps and benches 500 for 1 rep ;)
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kevinvu34/ (http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kevinvu34/)
He also competes in "Natural" bodybuilding contests
Where is Quaker when you need him to expose this fool!!
nothing to expose there except his "natural" claim which he's not, strong bastard though.
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I hope you're kidding?
Coach is a true Christian who lives by the good book. Why would he lie?
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Yes. But with some powerlifting technic.
But more than 90% of natural cant bench 5 plates with solid bbing training form.
Why 90%? Cus always surprising exception exists in this world..
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Coach is a true Christian who lives by the good book. Why would he lie?
Exactly, coach is good people in my book. Why is it so hard to believe he benched 540 @ 180? What reason would he have to lie?
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That's not astroboy.
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Exactly, coach is good people in my book. Why is it so hard to believe he benched 540 @ 180? What reason would he have to lie?
Agreed, Monster T. In fact, I shortly expect The Coach to post a link to a thread from his forum on the same subject (not the video, though) - that should prove beyond a shadow of doubt that he is as gifted a bencher as he is a political analyzer.
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Agreed, Monster T. In fact, I shortly expect The Coach to post a link to a thread from his forum on the same subject (not the video, though) - that should prove beyond a shadow of doubt that he is as gifted a bencher as he is a political analyzer.
Don't forget that he's a great golfer too.
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bullshit,,i did this when i was 27,,,called dedication and hard work,,try it sometimes,,,my buddy whos only 5'6 did this a month before he turned 20 years of age and is the same age as me,and was only 196 lbs,,i spotted him...and no of course i dont have pics or fuckin video,,clowns..i did this 9 years later than him but i was 290lbs.
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bullshit,,i did this when i was 27,,,called dedication and hard work,,try it sometimes,,,my buddy whos only 5'6 did this a month before he turned 20 years of age and is the same age as me,and was only 196 lbs,,i spotted him...and no of course i dont have pics or fuckin video,,clowns..i did this 9 years later than him but i was 290lbs.
booolshit.
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i also know a guy who is woods guy,,works all day in the woods,he did 545,,and he drinks beer probably everyday hes also well over 300lbs
also know a truck driver from winnipeg,manitoba,,this guy is unbelievable strong,,yes natural,,i know hes done this as well,,,,where have you people been,,guys of today are just not pure natural lifters of yesterday..period
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i also know a guy who is woods guy,,works out in woods all day,he did 545,,and he drinks beer probably everyday hes also well over 500
also know a truck driver from winnipeg,manitoba,,this guy is unbelievable strong,,yes natural,,i know hes done this as well,,,,where have you people been,,guys of today are just not pure natural lifters of yesterday..period
boooooolshit.
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booolshit.
x2
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bullshit,,i did this when i was 27,,,called dedication and hard work,,try it sometimes,,,my buddy whos only 5'6 did this a month before he turned 20 years of age and is the same age as me,and was only 196 lbs,,i spotted him...and no of course i dont have pics or fuckin video,,clowns..i did this 9 years later than him but i was 290lbs.
If you are 5'6" you are technically a midget and the range of motion is too small to be considered a legit lift. I am not saying I want to midget toss the little fella cuz he sounds pretty strong, but no way does the lift count.
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i also know a guy who is woods guy,,works all day in the woods,he did 545,,and he drinks beer probably everyday hes also well over 300lbs
also know a truck driver from winnipeg,manitoba,,this guy is unbelievable strong,,yes natural,,i know hes done this as well,,,,where have you people been,,guys of today are just not pure natural lifters of yesterday..period
don't we all ::)
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If you are 5'6" you are technically a midget and the range of motion is too small to be considered a legit lift. I am not saying I want to midget toss the little fella cuz he sounds pretty strong, but no way does the lift count.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
good post
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If you are 5'6" you are technically a midget and the range of motion is too small to be considered a legit lift. I am not saying I want to midget toss the little fella cuz he sounds pretty strong, but no way does the lift count.
are you insinuating that "dodger" is full of shit, Danielson?
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are you insinuating that "dodger" is full of shit, Danielson?
Little people lie all the time. See, when normal people can't look you in the eyes due to your height, it just becomes a habit to lie all the time.
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Little people lie all the time. See, when normal people can't look you in the eyes due to your height, it just becomes a habit to lie all the time.
yes Danny, maybe there's something about a 5'5" midget staring you face to genitals that makes them goofy. :D
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In short - Hell NO.
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yes very rare though and likely be at least 210lbs and built dor benching
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yes Danny, maybe there's something about a 5'5" midget staring you face to genitals that makes them goofy. :D
I like it when people say so and so it HUGE and then when you see them they are barely 5 feet tall. How the fuck can a midget be huge?
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I like it when people say so and so it HUGE and then when you see them they are barely 5 feet tall. How the fuck can a midget be huge?
it's not nice to speak about Lee Preist that way, Danny. ;D
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How come there is always at least one fella clinging onto some "guy" they knew who was incredibly strong, lean and muscular who was 100% natural?
Never any evidence...
By the way, most people don't admit their steroid use anyway.
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If you are 5'6" you are technically a midget and the range of motion is too small to be considered a legit lift. I am not saying I want to midget toss the little fella cuz he sounds pretty strong, but no way does the lift count.
not me my buddy is 5'6,,im 6'0
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it's not nice to speak about Lee Preist that way, Danny. ;D
I never understood the fascination with that little fella. I would kick sand in his face if I ever saw him.
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yes very rare though and likely be at least 210lbs and built dor benching
yes he was built for benching,short arms
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How come there is always at least one fella clinging onto some "guy" they knew who was incredibly strong, lean and muscular who was 100% natural?
Never any evidence...
By the way, most people don't admit their steroid use anyway.
hahahaha, "i knew a guy who drank 5 gallons of coffee a day and worked in the woods chopping down trees and he benched 950 for 12 and was 7'5" and 568 pounds". ;D
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I never understood the fascination with that little fella. I would kick sand in his face if I ever saw him.
if you are mean to elfs, santa will not bring you christmas presents. (even if the elfs are abusing steroids)
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How come there is always at least one fella clinging onto some "guy" they knew who was incredibly strong, lean and muscular who was 100% natural?
Never any evidence...
By the way, most people don't admit their steroid use anyway.
i never said any of them were muscular or even in shape dip shit,,,these guys were just huge built men,do you know how to read
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Maybe dodger thought it meant "10lb plates?" :-\
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boooooolshit.
yea ok einstein,,you know it all son
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i have never seen it.
ONe guy in my gym benched 500lbs. He was juiced to the gills. 5'11 and around 270lbs not that lean.
A friend of mine at 19 and 210lbs can bench 405 so thats why i am saying its possible
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yea ok einstein,,you know it all son
got any proof of these legendary feats, "dad"? ::)
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I never understood the fascination with that little fella. I would kick sand in his face if I ever saw him.
That flat head of his would be a good place to put my beer on.
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That flat head of his would be a good place to put my beer on.
He could definitely wear a sombrero and walk around a party, with chips and dip perhaps.
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Are you talking bodybuilder or powerlifter? If it's the latter and a 291lb fat natural then yes 100% sure it can be done.
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got any proof of these legendary feats, "dad"? ::)
yep i was waiting for that question,,,nope,,this was 22 years ago for steve and 13 years ago for me...if anyone knows Grant Mcreynolds on here from Calgary,he would confirm my lifts..hes a former strongman that repesented Canada many times
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Yes, but very rare. You've also got to be willing to become a big fatty(read mess) if you're going to do it naturally.
Offhand, a man of average height would most likely have to go in the 300+lb range to do it naturally.
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Yes, but very rare. You've also got to be willing to become a big fatty(read mess) if you're going to do it naturally.
Offhand, a man of average height would most likely have to go in the 300+lb range to do it naturally.
very true but not with this 1 guy named steve hill from NB,canada,he was just under 200lbs...amazing
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I've only saw one guy do it. One, threw my 9 plus years and I know he was natural. Bout 5'7'' short arms solid back, he was built to bench. I've only witnessed a handfull do 405 clean.
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I've only saw one guy do it. One, threw my 9 plus years and I know he was natural. Bout 5'7'' short arms solid back, he was built to bench. I've only witnessed a handfull do 405 clean.
Doesn't count.
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Doesn't count.
true, they have to be full-grown men.
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yes i have seen about 9 people in my life bench 405 or more.
only 4 in my gym in 4 years
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yes i have seen about 9 people in my life bench 405 or more.
only 4 in my gym in 4 years
also your gym attracts serious trainers...
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yes i have seen about 9 people in my life bench 405 or more.
only 4 in my gym in 4 years
Your gym can only hold 4 people though. Plus Irish people drink too much to get big and powerful, which is not a knock by any means, I am jealous.
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also your gym attracts serious trainers...
the other 5 were in PLing comps
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true, they have to be full-grown men.
What's full grown? I'm 5'10'' I'm a midget too, sucks :P
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What's full grown? I'm 5'10'' I'm a midget too, sucks :P
Hmmmm, you are on the borderline....getbiggers will have to decide on that one.
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Of course its possible. My good friend, Ryan Gillis, Benched 500 when he played offensive line for the Central Florida Knights (UCF).
He was also 6'4 315-320 pounds at the time. I know for a fact he was clean. He was tested 5 times, including "suprise" tests by the authorities. I am very close to the family & have known him a long time. He is a BIG MAN.
He specialized in the bench press-and he was huge guy. He played with Dante Culpepper, and played Arena football for Orlando.
I'll admit it was hard to believe, but he never partied, and force fed himself around the clock. But for a guy that is 5'7", and weighs 230-240, I would have to say "no".
What stops alot of guys from going heavier & heavier are shoulder problems. After he retired, he had his shoulder "Cleaned out", where they shave off the bone spurs that are digging into the rotator.
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I can do 6 plates naturally and all I do is aerobics.
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lol........I know 10 guys in my Gym who bench 750lbs each and they're all 5'6......hahahha ;D ;D
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That's not astroboy.
lmfao
(http://www.rgoldman.org/morris/dcmm/images/astroboy.jpg)
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What the hell does bodybuilding have to do with lifting weight? ???
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bullshit,,i did this when i was 27,,,called dedication and hard work,,try it sometimes,,,my buddy whos only 5'6 did this a month before he turned 20 years of age and is the same age as me,and was only 196 lbs,,i spotted him...and no of course i dont have pics or fuckin video,,clowns..i did this 9 years later than him but i was 290lbs.
NO VIDEO OF COURSE,,,VIDEOS DIDNT EXIST WHEN YOU DID IT,,, ::)
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Right. 20's threw 40's is the strongest a man will ever be why not record it just once?
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no one tell
the world is full of different people.. how can one... say what somene is supposed to bench and what someone cant....????
i have a friend more like my mentor.. he benched 5 plates
he is one of those genetics freaked kinda built like that guy from greeen mile
he has 5 brothers all built like that 3 of them dont lift
even his sister is BUILT like that
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no one tell
the world is full of different people.. how can one... say what somene is supposed to bench and what someone cant....????
i have a friend more like my mentor.. he benched 5 plates
he is one of those genetics freaked kinda built like that guy from greeen mile
he has 5 brothers all built like that 3 of them dont lift
even his sister is BUILT like that
::)ok Mr. 20 inch arms at 205 pounds.
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if he was on roids some years ago and is allowed to be as fat as he wants , a natural can bench 500 without being on nothing but high caloric diet (i know one guy, 57 years old, who does it in raw bench press contest at a bodyweiht of 260lbs)
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if he was on roids some years ago and is allowed to be as fat as he wants , a natural can bench 500 without being on nothing but high caloric diet (i know one guy, 57 years old, who does it in raw bench press contest at a bodyweiht of 260lbs)
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::)ok Mr. 20 inch arms at 205 pounds.
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yes thats the guy whos "rolling his eyes" to your claims. need i say more?
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yes thats the guy whos "rolling his eyes" to your claims. need i say more?
do you think he has 20 inch arms at 205 bodyweight, meso?
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do you think he has 20 inch arms at 205 bodyweight, meso?
he had a video where he taped his arms about 18 half i dont remember. still pretty big. why the hate?
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he had a video where he taped his arms about 18 half i dont remember. still pretty big. why the hate?
no hate, just telling the truth, the guy looks good though.
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i never claimed 20 inchers... i said i will have them by summer...
but he has serious issues its like he loathes anyone who as a decent build...
.. i have no idea what his problem is... but i see he started a thread about you... u look really good in that pic man..
props
very good
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he had a video where he taped his arms about 18 half i dont remember. still pretty big. why the hate?
thanks man right now im 19.3 cold
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i never claimed 20 inchers... i said i will have them by summer...
but he has serious issues its like he loathes anyone who as a decent build...
.. i have no idea what his problem is... but i see he started a thread about you... u look really good in that pic man..
props
very good
i know i know.... i regret posting my pic up...as good as i look this guy acts like a kid.
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I HAVE SEEN A GUY DO MORE! HE DID 520lbs and I believe is natural!
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Its a trick question,
There's no such thing as a natural bodybuilder.
qft
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That's not astroboy.
That's not Ed Grimley....
(http://www.foodnetworkfans.com/forum/attachments/clicker/84d1201139707-check-out-new-top-chef-contestants-grimley.gif)
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I think it would be possible for most guys who are reasonably strong and are able to benchpress 225 at around 175-180.
Then 'all' they would have to do is to eat and train.
Get themselves real fat - I'm talking 400-440 lbs here - and train some benchpress in the process.
I'm positive they would be able to handle 500 lbs then.
At a more normal body weight though - like 220 lbs or less - only a handful people in the world can do it natural IMO.
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I think it would be possible for most guys who are reasonably strong and are able to benchpress 225 at around 175-180.
Then 'all' they would have to do is to eat and train.
Get themselves real fat - I'm talking 400-440 lbs here - and train some benchpress in the process.
I'm positive they would be able to handle 500 lbs then.
At a more normal body weight though - like 220 lbs or less - only a handful people in the world can do it natural IMO.
well, it's a very rare case to have 220 pounders pressing 500lbs naturally. very rare. I seriously doubt this clown here is natural
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its rare for a 220 roided bodybuilder to handle that kind of weight... i havent seen a natty go over 3 and a half paltes with my own eyes
i wouldnt say its impossible, bound to be one or two people in the worl who could do it,,, be intresting to see what the pre war bench records were, before steroids became available?
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hahahaha, "i knew a guy who drank 5 gallons of coffee a day and worked in the woods chopping down trees and he benched 950 for 12 and was 7'5" and 568 pounds". ;D
I know him. Rides a big blue ox, right?
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be intresting to see what the pre war bench records were, before steroids became available?
Trouble with that is that "real bench pressing" is relatively new. Benches with proper uprights only started to become available in the early 50's. Before that, you had the loose belly toss, the floor press, or pull over and press.
Very rarely would you have a team of lifters lift a barbell over a lying lifter to attempt a max.
I can tell you that a elite floor press for a decent sized man(200-225) would've been around 350 ish. Joe Nordquest was a record holder for many years with 388lbs in the lift at around 200lbs.
Doug Hepburn was famous in 1950 for benching 400lbs., needless to say he was a big guy. Between 1950-1953, he'd run his bench up to 500lbs.
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there is a big samoan at my gym that does 5 plates for about 4 reps, i know he is natural. he is just a big samoan he is probably 6'3 300lbs and 20% bodyfat
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yes, but he won't be a bodybuilder. There are guys out there, big bellies, thick as fuck and can spend 15 years of their lives working to that one goal.
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::)ok Mr. 20 inch arms at 205 pounds.
Lol, I've seen the thread of him measuring his arms, and they were just under 19"...that was like 2 years ago, you even commented on the thread.
Stop hatin on him, and just focus on your own lifting.
I find it hillarious because you conversate with him on the T&O board, and then try to take him down on the G&O board.
Get a life QuakerOats. ???
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Lol, I've seen the thread of him measuring his arms, and they were just under 19"...that was like 2 years ago, you even commented on the thread.
Stop hatin on him, and just focus on your own lifting.
I find it hillarious because you conversate with him on the T&O board, and then try to take him down on the G&O board.
Get a life QuakerOats. ???
let me ask you a question, how many guys do you know or have seen who had legitimate 20 inch arms at 205 pounds? i would guess none, it's 99.999999999 physically impossible, ask any pro.
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Yeh, though it would take some good genetics to do it without being relatively obese
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i also know a guy who is woods guy,,works all day in the woods
Best line in thread.
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let me ask you a question, how many guys do you know or have seen who had legitimate 20 inch arms at 205 pounds? i would guess none, it's 99.999999999 physically impossible, ask any pro.
Why are you embellishing what I said
Firstly Im 210 and j said and I quote
I hope to have 20in arm by summer
You whole internet persona is built on trying to tear others down if you had said I was 20 inches by summer I'd be like cool man o hope you get it. Your a jealous guy how sad
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Sure they can. I did a lot on squats and deads while i was clean. There would be people who can get to 5 plates on bench naturally.
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Depends on if he posts here at getbig. Getbig gives you wings.
ok that is the greatest thing I have ever heard on the internet
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I think it would be possible for most guys who are reasonably strong and are able to benchpress 225 at around 175-180.
Then 'all' they would have to do is to eat and train.
Get themselves real fat - I'm talking 400-440 lbs here - and train some benchpress in the process.
I'm positive they would be able to handle 500 lbs then.
At a more normal body weight though - like 220 lbs or less - only a handful people in the world can do it natural IMO.
and the handful of people who could handle it are most likely not BB.
I think 405 would not be unreasonable but would still be extremely rare to see a all natural BB do this either.
Powerlifting is different all together, and its still a big deal when someone can do 500 raw all natural.
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answer to the question........yes
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answer to the question........yes
yes...... maybe and if so it would be extremely rare. the average guy "claiming" all natural status is about 200 lbs, and there are few all natural top notch power lifters at that body weight that can do it.
hell kevin nee posted a video of him doing 500 lbs raw bench for bragging rights, and he his a WSM competitor and not all natural.
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What types of gyms do most here go too? Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs! And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs. Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos. Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll must train at a fitness gym.
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What types of gyms do most here go too? Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs! And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs. Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos. Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll must train at a fitness gym.
I live in texas and I have not seen this, and I've worked out in alot of gyms in the area. I have never seen anyone bench press 500lbs raw. I highest I've seen anyone go is 405. I'm normally the strongest bencher in the gym and I got 405 at 205, and I was juiced. I think it is possible for a natural to do 500lbs but they are going to weigh alot, no 200 pound natual is going to do 500 raw.
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What types of gyms do most here go too? Ive seen plenty of dudes bench over 400lbs! And I've seen more than a handful bench 500lbs. Maybe being form Texas I'm just used to seeing strongs mofos. Or most here do not train at a hardcore gyms where all the meat heads train, ya'll must train at a fitness gym.
I have lifted in at least 200 different gyms in my life around the country and Asia and Mexico and no where have I ever seen more guys bench over 400 than in Hawaii. I would go into a gym and bench 405 for reps and have the whole gym stop and watch when I traveled. When I moved to Hawaii and did that no one would watch or even cared. Once you get up to 500 then some people would at least watch. I was 25 or so at 247 when I benched 500. I was absolutely 10000% drug free. I didn't do anything till 1986 and even then only for 6 months.
Also, anyone here from Hawaii remember "Q". This guy was a absolutely the best natural bencher I have ever seen.
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Well I dont know what to say! I have seen plenty do four plates and seen a few do 5bills. Ive even went to a texted powerlifting meet and seen a guy bench 700lbs, it wasnt raw and he had a wide grip, so it made the press only like four inches, and he was about 300lbs but still it was impressive. I saw that guy koncrete or Adrian bench 500lb raw at that meet as well. So I believe it can be done, some people are just cock strong.
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I live in texas and I have not seen this, and I've worked out in alot of gyms in the area. I have never seen anyone bench press 500lbs raw. I highest I've seen anyone go is 405. I'm normally the strongest bencher in the gym and I got 405 at 205, and I was juiced. I think it is possible for a natural to do 500lbs but they are going to weigh alot, no 200 pound natual is going to do 500 raw.
Best I've actually seen is 3 with 405 from a juiced guy, which I know isn't insane;y heavy.
But best I've seen fully natural is this mid 30s lecturer at my old University doing 440lb for a single. I definitley believe 500lbis possible natural, but it's a big deal.
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Well I dont know what to say! I have seen plenty do four plates and seen a few do 5bills. Ive even went to a texted powerlifting meet and seen a guy bench 700lbs, it wasnt raw and he had a wide grip, so it made the press only like four inches, and he was about 300lbs but still it was impressive. I saw that guy koncrete or Adrian bench 500lb raw at that meet as well. So I believe it can be done, some people are just cock strong.
Tested doesn't mean anything. The olympics are tested, do you think everybody is clean?
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634 was not raw, however, I do believe he benched 535 raw, just like "the coach". But tested does not mean natural my friend.
Exactly.
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You guys need to know when they say a tested show that just means they test them for certain things. And steroids is not one of them in most cases. They may test for a steroid no one takes anymore or diuretics most of the time.