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Title: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Dos Equis on February 22, 2009, 10:08:12 AM
Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Posted: 11:49 AM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) — It has become one of MSNBC host Chris Matthew's most infamous lines of the 2008 presidential election:

"I felt this thrill going up my leg," Matthews said the night Obama resoundingly defeated rival Hillary Clinton in the Virginia and Maryland Democratic primaries.

And former CBS News Correspondent Bernard Goldberg, who has long alleged liberal bias in the media, highlighted that line as indicative of the media's "slobbering" press coverage of candidate Obama during his campaign for the White House.

"That's not commentary, that's a man-crush," Goldberg declared on CNN's Reliable Sources Sunday.

Goldberg, the author of the new book “A Slobbering Love Affair,” credits the media coverage of the 2008 presidential election for ultimately resulting in Barack Obama's victory.

He specifically faulted coverage of the prolonged Democratic primary campaign, during which two historic candidates contentiously squared off.

"I think in elite liberal circles, certainly inside the media, race trumps gender, and that's why they slobbered over Barack Obama, and took Hillary Clinton to the back room and beat her with a rubber hose,” Goldberg said.

Goldberg also faulted political journalists for not digging up controversial sermons of the president's longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, until Obama had already effectively captured his party's nomination.

"These tapes were available, you didn't have to be Woodward or Bernstein to dig them up," Goldberg said. "If those tapes had come out six months earlier, certainly a year earlier, I don't think Barack Obama would have been the nominee.

"I think Hillary Clinton would have been. And I think she would have been the president today," he continued. "And in that sense, she's the biggest loser in all of this."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/22/media-critic-blasts-chris-matthews-man-crush-on-obama/#more-40972
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hedgehog on February 22, 2009, 10:43:26 AM
I think Chris Matthews acted very un-professional.

You can't express personal opinions like that when you're a journalist.

The right thing to do is to put him in a journalistic quarantine.

FWIW, I am of the same opinion when it comes to O'Reilly or any of the "commenting" political "journalists".

They dumb down politics.

I've wrote this before - you got O'Reilly or Olbermann, and they even have their "talking points" written out in a graphic box on the right side of the screen so Joe and Jane Dumb Viewer knows what they are supposed to think on issues.

When Joe Dumb Viewer hear about a current affair like eg the stimulus, he goes: "Gee, I wonder what my opinion is on this. Better check Bill-O/Keith-O (depending on where he leans politically), he will tell me how to think"

 ::)


Only reliable sources are alternative sources like democracynow.com and publicists like Washington Post. BBC and Newsweek.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 22, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
Hey, Hedge, what's your opinion on Sweden not bailing out Saab?
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Straw Man on February 22, 2009, 11:22:02 AM
Matthews had a huge man crush on Bush until just a few years ago

Here are a bunch of quotes which I believe were all aired on MSNBC

MATTHEWS implies Al Qaeda is 'trying to get people to vote Democrat for president.' He asks Democratic Senator Breaux: 'Doesn't it put your party in a terrible position of having al-Qaeda rooting for you?' (Hardball, 7/18/04)

MATTHEWS accuses Democrats of "perhaps exploiting" the death and destruction in Iraq (Hardball, 11/1/05)

MATTHEWS says Bush sometimes "glimmers" with "sunny nobility" (Hardball, 10/24/05)

MATTHEWS suggests Bush may "belong on Mount Rushmore" (Hardball, 12/16/05)

MATTHEWS argues that the U.S. went into Iraq "for altruistic purposes" (Chris Matthews Show, 9/25/05)

MATTHEWS insists "everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs" (Hardball, 11/28/05)

MATTHEWS recites GOP talking points during fight over Bush's judicial nominees, describes Democratic efforts as "just sort of pouting and bitching" (Hardball, 5/18/05)

MATTHEWS levels baseless charge against Democratic efforts to complete intel probe as "disingenuous," "using crocodile tears" (Hardball, 11/1/05)

MATTHEWS describes Supreme Court debate as division between strict constructionism versus the "loosey goosey" liberal approach (MSNBC, 10/3/05)

MATTHEWS praises Bush for a "brilliant" speech, before it was delivered, while attacking Democratic critics as "carpers and complainers" (MSNBC, 11/30/05)

MATTHEWS falsely attacks Democrats for accusing Alito of being "lenient on the mob" (Hardball, 10/31/05)

MATTHEWS praises John Roberts' confirmation as "miraculously successful" (MSNBC, 9/29/05).
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2009, 11:23:41 AM
I guess he is an equal opportunity fan-boy????

Matthews is unwatchable. 

Seriously, 99% of cable news is awful anymore.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hedgehog on February 22, 2009, 11:44:27 AM
Hey, Hedge, what's your opinion on Sweden not bailing out Saab?

It was a good call.

If GM can't make Saab productive in 20 years - how is the government going to be able to do it?


However, it's not entirely true to claim that the government hasn't bailed out Saab at all - the government has already put forward a stimulus plan for the next five or so years for the national car industry that Saab/GM would be part of.

The plan includes research funding directed into alternative fuel sources and that kind of shit.

So the government are prepared to help - under certain conditions. And they won't get in on some part-ownership.

That way, GM could run away from their responsibilities.

But the Swedish government played hardball with GM on this one.

And Saab is under reconstruction.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 22, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
For those that may be interested, we do know he spits...
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2009, 01:33:55 PM
of course mathews was an obama shill.

just like hannity softballing palin in their interview.
He spent 45 minutes gushing about her courage and bravery in the face of the liberal lie machine.

they are both suck ups who work to further their network's cause, to appeal to people of that opinion. 

*(cue dickkheads to say "yes, but Mathews was .0232% worse than hannity...)
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 01:38:15 PM
You have to admit, this was a priceless moment for Chris :D

Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: George Whorewell on February 22, 2009, 06:35:27 PM
The difference between Olbermann and Mathews and a guy like O'Reilly, is that O'Reilly constantly has liberals on his show and often plays devils advocate even if you know he is slanted in a certain way. While I agree he definitely favors the right, he sometimes at least puts up the appearance of neutrality. Olberman and Mathews are so disingenuous its unwatchable.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 06:41:15 PM
The difference between Olbermann and Mathews and a guy like O'Reilly, is that O'Reilly constantly has liberals on his show and often plays devils advocate even if you know he is slanted in a certain way. While I agree he definitely favors the right, he sometimes at least puts up the appearance of neutrality. Olberman and Mathews are so disingenuous its unwatchable.
you're defending Bill O'Rielly???  wow...  Show me one time where Olbermann or Mathews has started screaming and pointing at the guest or threating the guest... Because I can show you where Bill has.

Bill O'Rielly when things get out of hand for him= "cut his mic, cut his mic... CUT HIS MIC"

nice...
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 06:42:55 PM
lol...



4.5 million views and 20,000 comments and they're still coming in fresh... lololol....
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2009, 06:48:19 PM
fucccit.  we'll do it live.













WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:04:28 PM
and oreilly still kicks teh shit out of olbeirman, matthews, maddow...maybe ppl just like watching him melt down or maybe ppl just agree more with him and appreciate him more then et al?
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
and oreilly still kicks teh shit out of olbeirman, matthews, maddow...maybe ppl just like watching him melt down or maybe ppl just agree more with him and appreciate him more then et al?
That doesn't really translate to right or wrong now does it. 
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2009, 07:10:42 PM
and oreilly still kicks teh shit out of olbeirman, matthews, maddow

yes, people over 40 are more likely to watch cable news at night, and more likely to be republicans.

I spose when 54% of Americans voted the MANDATE to kick the neocon scum out, that's the ratings that really mattered tony ;)
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2009, 07:11:32 PM
That doesn't really translate to right or wrong now does it. 

tony says it does.

what would worldwide ratings be if you put Dubya up against bin laden in primetime?

Is tony saying bin laden is correct?  hmmmm tony we don't need that kinda anti-american talk round here partner
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:20:26 PM
That doesn't really translate to right or wrong now does it. 
nothing in this thread really translates to right or wrong whats your fuking point?
you went off on defending oreilly and i simply pointed out that he is much more popular then anyone of the ass clowns on msnbc.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:22:27 PM
yes, people over 40 are more likely to watch cable news at night, and more likely to be republicans.

I spose when 54% of Americans voted the MANDATE to kick the neocon scum out, that's the ratings that really mattered tony ;)
::)

i agree thats the rating that really mattered but dont come on here bashing oreilly and propping up msnbc when its clear who america would rather watch. obama winning doesnt mean that they choose him or his views necissarily you have said it many time that palin lost it for mccain so if he had another running mate the circumstance would be different. I.E. they choose agains palin and by default obama.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 07:24:23 PM
nothing in this thread really translates to right or wrong whats your fuking point?
you went off on defending oreilly and i simply pointed out that he is much more popular then anyone of the ass clowns on msnbc.
So you pointed out the wealth of dipshits tune into Bill.  thanks for the info but I think we had it figured out that there are a lot of dumb fucks out there and you've connected the dots to Bill.  Thanks... I think...
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:26:19 PM
So you pointed out the wealth of dipshits tune into Bill.  thanks for the info but I think we had it figured out that there are a lot of dumb fucks out there and you've connected the dots to Bill.  Thanks... I think...
hahahahhaha LOL yes b/c the ppl that tune into olberman and the rest of the liberal crew at msnbc are mensa members hahahaha  ::) goodness fucking gracious
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 07:28:55 PM
hahahahhaha LOL yes b/c the ppl that tune into olberman and the rest of the liberal crew at msnbc are mensa members hahahaha  ::) goodness fucking gracious
Did you just call Olberamann viewers geeks?  LOL, nice comeback... not
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:39:39 PM
Did you just call Olberamann viewers geeks?  LOL, nice comeback... not
hahaha you are a fuking idiot
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 22, 2009, 07:43:29 PM
i watch matthew's show alot, and it seems to me hes pretty even handed, if obama slips up he calls him out on it. he certainly not afraid to question obama on many things.
unlike Hannity who would never, ever admit that Bush or cheney have ever done anything wrong or unwise.
if anyone's biased its him, he flat out said on his show many times 'im going to vote for mccain and this is why you should too'  ::)
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
hahaha you are a fuking idiot
we have something in common, I think the same of you :)
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 07:59:06 PM
i watch matthew's show alot, and it seems to me hes pretty even handed, if obama slips up he calls him out on it. he certainly not afraid to question obama on many things.
unlike Hannity who would never, ever admit that Bush or cheney have ever done anything wrong or unwise.
if anyone's biased its him, he flat out said on his show many times 'im going to vote for mccain and this is why you should too'  ::)
agreed hannity is to the right what olberman is to the left i cant watch hannity to uber partisan.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 22, 2009, 08:00:03 PM
we have something in common, I think the same of you :)
well there that and the guy falling from an overpass thing...ahhh our agreements are short lived and fleeting :)
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 08:01:08 PM
i watch matthew's show alot, and it seems to me hes pretty even handed, if obama slips up he calls him out on it. he certainly not afraid to question obama on many things.
unlike Hannity who would never, ever admit that Bush or cheney have ever done anything wrong or unwise.
if anyone's biased its him, he flat out said on his show many times 'im going to vote for mccain and this is why you should too'  ::)
lol, except in the days following the election.  Hannity flipped a 360 self ass saving death thrall.  It was hilarious listening to his show after Obama won.  The guy was in a panic that the backlash was headed his way.  He was all over talking true conservative and distancing himself from anything neocon.  The sad part is the dumb fuck retards that listen to him didn't blink an eye and just praised his words as though he had never supported a neconservative agenda in his life...  LOL for anyone with 4 working brain cells or more...
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 22, 2009, 08:01:57 PM
well there that and the guy falling from an overpass thing...ahhh our agreements are short lived and fleeting :)
we take what we can get ;D
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 22, 2009, 09:04:41 PM
dont come on here bashing oreilly and propping up msnbc when its clear who america would rather watch.

Um, American idol?

Idol destroys OReilly in ratings.

What say you, bloviator?
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
Um, American idol?

Idol destroys OReilly in ratings.

What say you, bloviator?
first off idol isnt on cable brain child and oreilly destroys olberman and the rest of the liberal crew at msnbc so whats that say about them?
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
first off idol isnt on cable brain child and oreilly destroys olberman and the rest of the liberal crew at msnbc so whats that say about them?

most americans have cable, which gives them both oreilly and idol.

more choose idol.

therefore, by your intellect, idol is superior and more Right than billo.

good work sister
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: MCWAY on February 23, 2009, 12:49:09 PM
most americans have cable, which gives them both oreilly and idol.

more choose idol.

therefore, by your intellect, idol is superior and more Right than billo.

good work sister

Since when did American Idol become a news commentary show?

When it comes to news commentary shows, O'Reilly has whipping Olbermann's behind for nearly 8 years now, which would explain why O'Reilly keeps making Olbermann's "Worst Person" list.

Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: shootfighter1 on February 23, 2009, 12:56:22 PM
I don't like O'Reily's behavior and interview style with guests.  However, he is definitely not as far right as Olberman is left.  O'Reily regularly criticized Bush and has given Obama props (particularly before the stimulus).
O'Reily certainly leans right but has more guests that disagree with him.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 02:25:38 PM
most americans have cable, which gives them both oreilly and idol.

more choose idol.

therefore, by your intellect, idol is superior and more Right than billo.

good work sister
really please give me a link that says most americans have cable...LOL i never said superior or right dumb fuck thats your own ignorant spin which im not suprised...simply stated that oreilly is more popular then your crew at msnbc EVERYSINGLE ONE OF THEM
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 02:26:20 PM
Since when did American Idol become a news commentary show?

When it comes to news commentary shows, O'Reilly has whipping Olbermann's behind for nearly 8 years now, which would explain why O'Reilly keeps making Olbermann's "Worst Person" list.


Your speaking logic here MC 240 doesnt take well to that.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
really please give me a link that says most americans have cable...LOL i never said superior or right dumb fuck thats your own ignorant spin which im not suprised...simply stated that oreilly is more popular then your crew at msnbc EVERYSINGLE ONE OF THEM

Are they even shown in the same time slot?  
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
really please give me a link that says most americans have cable

http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html

56% of Americans pay for cable television.

Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 03:00:26 PM
Are they even shown in the same time slot?  

olbermann, oreilly, and many nights, american idol do share the same time slot.  It's 2 hours some nights, 1 hour on other nights.
Title: Re: Media critic blasts Chris Matthews' 'man crush' on Obama
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 03:38:44 PM
Since when did American Idol become a news commentary show?

When it comes to news commentary shows, O'Reilly has whipping Olbermann's behind for nearly 8 years now, which would explain why O'Reilly keeps making Olbermann's "Worst Person" list.