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Title: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 10:21:41 AM
I was reading a Palumbo column yesterday.  He said carbs are your energy source, so you should use them to fuel your workouts.  But when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: YoungBlood on February 23, 2009, 10:24:22 AM

How many essential amino acids are there?
How many essential fatty  acids are there?
How many essential carbohydrates are there?

Unless you're using something else, the answer to the above questions answer yours too.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 23, 2009, 10:25:51 AM
Muscle is over rated. Society is designed so you never need muscle. Adapt people.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
let's say you drink 2 scoops whey, a few times a day.
you take your BCAAs between meals.
You take fish oil caps.

Now you're free to just mix in carbs, and it's a win-win?
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: The OX on February 23, 2009, 12:50:36 PM
Muscle is over rated. Society is designed so you never need muscle. Adapt people.

Society is designed so you look like crap.

OX
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: calfzilla on February 23, 2009, 01:02:12 PM
I would agree, but not necessary unless you are obese and have a hard time putting on muscle without adding a bunch of fat.  Or if you want to lose fat without sacrificing too much muscle. 
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 23, 2009, 01:02:52 PM
Society is designed so you look like crap.

OX
it's all about money dude. Arnold is a perfect example. Money OVER muscles.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Mars on February 23, 2009, 01:03:02 PM
(http://estb.msn.com/i/81/F811CA66AA66CDEAC424F1A62277F.jpg)
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Team Diver on February 23, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
I was reading a Palumbo column yesterday.  He said carbs are your energy source, so you should use them to fuel your workouts.  But when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?

Define "adding muscle"! If we are talking about size, the glycogen (from carbs) and the water it binds in the cell increase the volume.
Paul Diver approved.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: The OX on February 23, 2009, 01:04:02 PM
it's all about money dude. Arnold is a perfect example. Money OVER muscles.


But the muscle got him the money.


OX
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: HTexan on February 23, 2009, 01:04:49 PM
Society is designed so you look like crap.

OX
....but what to look better. So your spend money and buy shit, but never use it.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 23, 2009, 01:05:10 PM

But the muscle got him the money.


OX

no it didn't. marrying into the kennedy's got him the money.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Team Diver on February 23, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
(http://estb.msn.com/i/81/F811CA66AA66CDEAC424F1A62277F.jpg)

That's not Benjamin Button.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Pete Nice on February 23, 2009, 01:06:34 PM
no it didn't. marrying into the kennedy's got him the money.

what is your avatar BSB
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: The OX on February 23, 2009, 01:06:39 PM
no it didn't. marrying into the kennedy's got him the money.


Bodybuilding got him fame, fame got him movie deals, movie deals got him more fame, fame got him in to office.


OX
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 23, 2009, 01:07:48 PM
what is your avatar BSB

Please watch it

Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Team Diver on February 23, 2009, 01:15:30 PM
Please watch it


34 million views?  ???
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on February 23, 2009, 01:17:28 PM
34 million views?  ???

When can we get some new paul diver material? the heavy weights are rip for a top notch tomato can such as Paul.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Pete Nice on February 23, 2009, 01:26:32 PM
Tay Zonday huh
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Mars on February 23, 2009, 01:28:08 PM
(http://www.bunrab.com/dailyfeed/dailyfeed_images_dec-05/daily_dec03_2005_nose.jpg)
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Batfreak on February 23, 2009, 01:33:32 PM
WTF?!?!
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Switznegger on February 23, 2009, 02:44:06 PM
Does he talk about the Drugs needed between meals. ::)
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: tbombz on February 23, 2009, 02:45:06 PM
when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?
No
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Switznegger on February 23, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
Ask Milos look how big he is NOW. ::)
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: spinnis on February 23, 2009, 02:53:29 PM
Please watch it



I dont get it, he had a cool voice.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: spinnis on February 23, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
(http://www.bunrab.com/dailyfeed/dailyfeed_images_dec-05/daily_dec03_2005_nose.jpg)
EFFI'N WHAT
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Jizzacked on February 23, 2009, 03:15:51 PM
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Get Rowdy on February 23, 2009, 03:19:42 PM


LMAO!
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: The OX on February 23, 2009, 03:27:32 PM
I was reading a Palumbo column yesterday.  He said carbs are your energy source, so you should use them to fuel your workouts.  But when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?


To answer your question.  No this is not true, infact it is completely false!
Maybe you should ask him why he includes alot of simple sugars before and after the workouts in his offseason diet, and why he includes carbs
in the offseason if he believes that all you need is protein and fats.
The fact is that it is extremely hard to grow muscles without carbs, the state of ketosis mimmicks starvation.
They use it with patients of epilepsy because of this.  Look it up.
In my opinion no carb diets are not necessary at all and simply a gimmick to make people like Palumbo money.
I get about 400 grams of carbs daily when getting ready for a contest, 600 when I'm not.



OX

Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: The OX on February 23, 2009, 03:28:37 PM
EFFI'N WHAT

His penis grew from his nose?

OX
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Bossa on February 23, 2009, 03:33:23 PM
Please watch it



Is that Carl Lewis?
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Go 4 It on February 23, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
The thing you have to take into account is that these guys are already huge! Toney Freeman uses Palumbo diet and gets shredded no doubt, but he is already huge, he built that physique from years of eating massive amounts of carbs. I'm sure the same thing goes for Centaponi, he gets ripped when using Palumbo's diet, but I pretty sure to put all that mass on his frame he ate a ton of carbs for years, then used Palumbo's diet to refine and tighten up..right now he's trying to put mass on to compete in the pros and I'm sure he includes ton of carbs in his meals daily, but when he starts his contest prep I'm sure he'll go fat/protein.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: YoungBlood on February 23, 2009, 04:05:05 PM

The fact is that it is extremely hard to grow muscles without carbs, the state of ketosis mimmicks starvation.


How is it fact?

Why is it fact?

??? ??? ???
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: tbombz on February 23, 2009, 04:07:29 PM
The thing you have to take into account is that these guys are already huge! Toney Freeman uses Palumbo diet and gets shredded no doubt, but he is already huge, he built that physique from years of eating massive amounts of carbs. I'm sure the same thing goes for Centaponi, he gets ripped when using Palumbo's diet, but I pretty sure to put all that mass on his frame he ate a ton of carbs for years, then used Palumbo's diet to refine and tighten up..right now he's trying to put mass on to compete in the pros and I'm sure he includes ton of carbs in his meals daily, but when he starts his contest prep I'm sure he'll go fat/protein.
yes. good point. exactly.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 04:15:04 PM
ah, this wasn't aboit keto and didn't forbid carbs.

this was about offseason gains... saying fat and protein were the macros that were to be emphasized, with carbs being a 'whatever'.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Pet shop boys on February 23, 2009, 08:11:36 PM
I was reading a Palumbo column yesterday.  He said carbs are your energy source, so you should use them to fuel your workouts.  But when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?

Its true as long as he stick to his GAS use....

Take the Juice out of Palumbo and all he needs is protein and fat,  to become the next Bob Paris (only Uglier)


WOOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: gordiano on February 23, 2009, 08:12:43 PM
(http://estb.msn.com/i/81/F811CA66AA66CDEAC424F1A62277F.jpg)

God.....that's so fucking wrong....
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: kiwiol on February 23, 2009, 08:14:17 PM
God.....that's so fucking wrong....

That's true love bro - can't be bought with money.

Don't hate, appreciate.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: tbombz on February 23, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
this was about offseason gains... saying fat and protein were the macros that were to be emphasized, with carbs being a 'whatever'.
while carbs are not essential in any diet, if one is looking to grow muscles at the fastest possible rate, then a high carb intake is definitely necessary.

palumbo is wrong.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: WillGrant on February 24, 2009, 02:09:39 AM
The thing you have to take into account is that these guys are already huge! Toney Freeman uses Palumbo diet and gets shredded no doubt, but he is already huge, he built that physique from years of eating massive amounts of carbs. I'm sure the same thing goes for Centaponi, he gets ripped when using Palumbo's diet, but I pretty sure to put all that mass on his frame he ate a ton of carbs for years, then used Palumbo's diet to refine and tighten up..right now he's trying to put mass on to compete in the pros and I'm sure he includes ton of carbs in his meals daily, but when he starts his contest prep I'm sure he'll go fat/protein.
Well said..For me I need carbs/fat/protein to grow , with out carbs I go no where.
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: kawaks on February 24, 2009, 03:09:05 AM
I was reading a Palumbo column yesterday.  He said carbs are your energy source, so you should use them to fuel your workouts.  But when it comes to adding muscle, the macronutrients that matter are protein and fat.  Is this true?

Hey, Palumbo is the "Dan Duchaine" of the 21st Century.

RIP Dan, hope you gettin' plenty of female ass in 'roiders haven!'
Title: Re: All you need is Protein and fat to grow
Post by: Team Diver on February 24, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
When can we get some new paul diver material? the heavy weights are rip for a top notch tomato can such as Paul.

Sadly, he is going downhill, he eats more and more clean, neglects saturated fats and simple sugars... Actually he's quite depressed these days, the shadow of his old self.