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Title: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 03:21:56 PM
He questions its validity today, even though the State of Hawaii has certified it.

He's a CTer.

he and Dennie Kusinich should go hunting for UFO's together.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on February 23, 2009, 03:55:20 PM
OBAMA IS AMERICAN LIKE APPLIE PIE  ::)
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 23, 2009, 05:29:29 PM
He questions its validity today, even though the State of Hawaii has certified it.

He's a CTer.

he and Dennie Kusinich should go hunting for UFO's together.

240, it would be different if this was just some random guy on tv or the internet.   Look at who is questioning this though?  An United States Senator is questioning his citizenship(obama's).  Grow up a little bit man.  Obama has flat out refused to prove he was born here.  The courts have continually dismissed cases involving the question.  Clearly something is up, you are just too busy getting a "warm sensation" in your legs thinking about Obama.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
240, it would be different if this was just some random guy on tv or the internet.   Look at who is questioning this though?  An United States Senator is questioning his citizenship(obama's).  Grow up a little bit man.  Obama has flat out refused to prove he was born here.  The courts have continually dismissed cases involving the question.  Clearly something is up, you are just too busy getting a "warm sensation" in your legs thinking about Obama.

So we have a conspiracy in which an entire US state lies so that a Kenyan National can lead our country?

I'm not judging its validity... I'm asking you to consider just how silly it sounds. 
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 05:58:53 PM
So we have a conspiracy in which an entire US state lies so that a Kenyan National can lead our country?

I'm not judging its validity... I'm asking you to consider just how silly it sounds. 

hahaah that sounds silly but you believe that an entire country plotted 9/11 got other countries to go in on the wmd idea so basically one state is silly but a few countries totally plausable?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2009, 06:11:52 PM
Thanks tommy u saved me the trouble.....
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 06:24:21 PM
hahaah that sounds silly but you believe that an entire country plotted 9/11 got other countries to go in on the wmd idea so basically one state is silly but a few countries totally plausable?

where did I write that 'an entire country' plotted 911?

find the quote, hamhock.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 23, 2009, 06:28:10 PM
where did I write that 'an entire country' plotted 911?

find the quote, hamhock.

Look at the statement again dude.  You take things way out of context.  He was referring to our country, the US, dragging other countries.  He didn't mean that the entire country was in on the plot.  Seriously though, if you believe that the government plotted 9/11(not the entire government, just a select few), then why is it hard to believe that Obama's birth records could be forged?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 07:19:10 PM
Look at the statement again dude.  You take things way out of context.  He was referring to our country, the US, dragging other countries.  He didn't mean that the entire country was in on the plot.  Seriously though, if you believe that the government plotted 9/11(not the entire government, just a select few), then why is it hard to believe that Obama's birth records could be forged?
thanks i didnt want to have to explain it.

you stated that believing obamas not a citizen means taht you believe an "entire state"  ::) was it really the entire state of course not numb nut.

At any rate you side stepped the point as usual believing in obamas citizenship drama is silly but the us plotting 9/11 making up wmd and getting other countries to collaborate is what sensable?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 08:06:44 PM
Repugnants are just doing their usual Distraction techniques.   People are gettting pissed off at these bipartisanship ,dumbass lame attempts.      People hating, greedy bastards.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 08:18:22 PM
Repugnants are just doing their usual Distraction techniques.   People are gettting pissed off at these bipartisanship ,dumbass lame attempts.      People hating, greedy bastards.
LOL after years of being uber partisan now the liberals all want to hold hands and sing kumbya
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: marcus on February 23, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
If Obama was born here he'd have nothing to hide and this would be a non-issue.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 08:53:24 PM
LOL after years of being uber partisan now the liberals all want to hold hands and sing kumbya


Americans want action.............not made up drama from the right and theyre world destoying actions.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 08:55:47 PM

Americans want action.............not made up drama from the right and theyre world destoying actions.
made up drama? LOL dude your uber partisan ways go against your utopian views you want the right to go right along with the left thats not bipartisanship thats moving left bro.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 09:04:27 PM
made up drama? LOL dude your uber partisan ways go against your utopian views you want the right to go right along with the left thats not bipartisanship thats moving left bro.



ATTN:  Tony.  The right has destroyed this country, and is in the minority for a reason.   Your policies and ideologies are proven to FAIL.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:07:04 PM


ATTN:  Tony.  The right has destroyed this country, and is in the minority for a reason.   Your policies and ideologies are proven to FAIL.
LOL what ideologies and policies are those? Bushes actions dont represent alot of conservative values so please dont use him as an example.

i thought we were all supposed to hold hands and be bipartisan, your saying you dont want bipartisanship you just want the right to go along with the left then?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
LOL what ideologies and policies are those? Bushes actions dont represent alot of conservative values so please dont use him as an example.

i thought we were all supposed to hold hands and be bipartisan, your saying you dont want bipartisanship you just want the right to go along with the left then?





Im in the center.   Im Pro-life, Pro firearms, Anti Gayrights for marriage, christian, and would support a free-market but not w/out some regulation and oversite................ .....Im sure we are smart enough to have seen what works and what doesnt.   And labels dont work.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:30:08 PM




Im in the center.   Im Pro-life, Pro firearms, Anti Gayrights for marriage, christian, and would support a free-market but not w/out some regulation and oversite................ .....Im sure we are smart enough to have seen what works and what doesnt.   And labels dont work.
LOL you sound like you just described me to a "T", iono why we disagree the majority of the time. Obama and the left dont want bipartisanship bro they want what they want and they claim partisanship when the reps. dont agree with them. I agree labels dont work so you can stop using the "repugs" label anytime
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: headhuntersix on February 23, 2009, 09:33:26 PM
Yeah...anybody who thought Bush was a model of Conservatism doesn't understand the concept. We're a "minority" because of Bush fatigue..Barry will wear even faster.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2009, 09:39:49 PM
Yeah...anybody who thought Bush was a model of Conservatism doesn't understand the concept. We're a "minority" because of Bush fatigue..Barry will wear even faster.

"libs" didn't put him in office and real conservatives won't claim him so where did he come from?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 09:46:41 PM
LOL you sound like you just described me to a "T", iono why we disagree the majority of the time. Obama and the left dont want bipartisanship bro they want what they want and they claim partisanship when the reps. dont agree with them. I agree labels dont work so you can stop using the "repugs" label anytime




Do you think Tax cuts work ?    That is a foundation belief of the right, right?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:48:08 PM
"libs" didn't put him in office and real conservatives won't claim him so where did he come from?
conservatives arent saying we didnt vote for him straw only that he went against alot of conservative core principles.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:49:26 PM



Do you think Tax cuts work ?    That is a foundation belief of the right, right?
i believe they do work i dont believe they are the only thing that works or that they always work in every situation...you believe that giving to the poor will make the entire population richer?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2009, 09:54:49 PM
i believe they do work

we had 8 years of Bush tax cuts.

Did they work?

Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2009, 09:55:28 PM
conservatives arent saying we didnt vote for him straw only that he went against alot of conservative core principles.

So you're saying he lied to you?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:56:22 PM
we had 8 years of Bush tax cuts.

Did they work?


again numb nut situation was different it didnt matter who was in the white house or what policies we had this shit storm was a long time coming you ignorant fuck.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 09:58:41 PM
So you're saying he lied to you?
Iono about that, he did what he thought was best for the country I happen to disagree with some of it some of it i agree with, you feel obama has lied to you? he has gone against many campaign promises so far.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2009, 10:01:23 PM
Iono about that, he did what he thought was best for the country I happen to disagree with some of it some of it i agree with, you feel obama has lied to you? he has gone against many campaign promises so far.

I think "things" are very complicated

Obama is continuing some things that Bush did....but that also may change

Overall I'm MUCH happier with Obama driving the bus
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
I think "things" are very complicated

Obama is continuing some things that Bush did....but that also may change

Overall I'm MUCH happier with Obama driving the bus
i feel the same way about bush ppl can rag on him all they want he was put in an extremely tough situation and did what he thought was best, hindsights always 20/20. Im not sure about obama just yet i didnt like when bush bailed everybody out and im not too happy about obamas moves thus far either.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
again numb nut situation was different it didnt matter who was in the white house or what policies we had this shit storm was a long time coming you ignorant fuck.



Wrong.     Bush had an ideal situation.     Clinton gave him a surplus budget and the country had no BALOONS to pop for the future.   9/11 comes and he attacks the wrong nation working our country into poverty.     He gives tax cuts and promises 1.4million new jobs to come out of it and all we get is a deficet of 1.7 million jobs.

To take the heat off his bad image, Rove and team unleash the banks to give anyone a home that can fog a glass................... .hoping to be outta there before the pyramid crashed and leave it for the next guy.    

Now we have Obama trying to get things done but hes having to stop bipartisan bullshit every other day....... ::)
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 10:14:18 PM
Wrong.     Bush had an ideal situation.     Clinton gave him a surplus budget and the country had no BALOONS to pop for the future.   9/11 comes and he attacks the wrong nation working our country into poverty.     He gives tax cuts and promises 1.4million new jobs to come out of it and all we get is a deficet of 1.7 million jobs.

To take the heat off his bad image, Rove and team unleash the banks to give anyone a home that can fog a glass................... .hoping to be outta there before the pyramid crashed and leave it for the next guy.    

Now we have Obama trying to get things done but hes having to stop bipartisan bullshit every other day....... ::)
youre right the housing crises has had nothing to do with this at all...frank et al. under clinton pushing for every underprivilaged shit head who cant afford a home to get one didnt contribute at all.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 23, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
listen to any analyst bro they will say that this crises has been building for a long time bro again it wouldnt have mattered who was in the white house or what policies we had we would still be in a heap of shit right now.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2009, 10:22:46 PM
i feel the same way about bush ppl can rag on him all they want he was put in an extremely tough situation and did what he thought was best, hindsights always 20/20. Im not sure about obama just yet i didnt like when bush bailed everybody out and im not too happy about obamas moves thus far either.

fair enough

we both agree that Bush's decisions (in hindsight) were bad

I think it's fair to give Obama some time for his decisions to play out and yield some result ....positive or negative
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: War-Horse on February 23, 2009, 10:29:15 PM
listen to any analyst bro they will say that this crises has been building for a long time bro again it wouldnt have mattered who was in the white house or what policies we had we would still be in a heap of shit right now.




True.  It began when the Fed treasury was developed and given to a bunch of bankers.  It was the wolf gaurding the hen house.  They starting printing money out of thin air when the gold reserves ran out.   This started the begining of false wealth and immense debt.......
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2009, 10:57:11 PM
youre right the housing crises has had nothing to do with this at all...frank et al. under clinton pushing for every underprivilaged shit head who cant afford a home to get one didnt contribute at all.

Bush did the same thing
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: grab an umbrella on February 23, 2009, 10:57:18 PM



True.  It began when the Fed treasury was developed and given to a bunch of bankers.  It was the wolf gaurding the hen house.  They starting printing money out of thin air when the gold reserves ran out.   This started the begining of false wealth and immense debt.......

No balloons to bust?  Do you follow politics or the economy?  Do you just enjoy making stupid statements?  Remember the dotcom bubble?  Bush inherited an economy on the down turn.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2009, 04:58:40 AM
Go read my post about Robert Rubin being sued for running a "Ponzi Scheme" at Citi.  Who was he treasury secretary for??????

Do you know who his self proclaimed protoge' is????????????????

I will give you a hint:  his last name starts with a "G" and ends in an "R"

The two party cartel is responsible for this, not GWB alone. 

He screwed up and was a disaster, yes, but to blame him alone is just stupid.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 24, 2009, 05:15:47 AM
where did I write that 'an entire country' plotted 911?

find the quote, hamhock.
Tony does that everytime.  98 percent of his attacks are based on a completely made of version of what you said.  I can't count the times he's said something I didn't say or said I never said what I actually did say.  The guy is either illiterate or just a serial troll.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2009, 05:19:13 AM
9/11 CT theories fall on their own weight every time one takes a few minutes to think of the logistics. 
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 24, 2009, 06:22:04 AM
Tony does that everytime.  98 percent of his attacks are based on a completely made of version of what you said.  I can't count the times he's said something I didn't say or said I never said what I actually did say.  The guy is either illiterate or just a serial troll.
He said the entire state os hawaii is covering for barry, when thats not what he really meant is it brain child? When i said the entire country i didnt mean everybody in it like that numb nut took it as. It seems that everyone else here is ok with my "attacks" and do not seem to think they are baseless just you and 240...LOL bro when youre in the same boat as 240 look around and swim for it b/c thats not a good place to be.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2009, 06:25:00 AM
He said the entire state os hawaii is covering for barry, when thats not what he really meant is it brain child? When i said the entire country i didnt mean everybody in it like that numb nut took as. It seems that everyone else here is ok with my "attacks" and do not seem to think they are baseless just you and 240...LOL bro when youre in the same boat as 240 look around and swim for it b/c thats not a good place to be.

I dont know if the BC is real or not, however:

1.  Hawaii has not shown a full copy of a legitimate BC.  They only certified something called a "live birth" or something.

2.  He has been sued dozens of times over this and not in one case has he shown the BC issue.  He always has the attorneys argue "standing", not the merits of the case.

3.  His relatives say he was born in Kenya.

4.  He has blocked all his records from being divulged. 


To me, it just seems strange that he would just not release the actual BC. 
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Cap on February 24, 2009, 06:30:58 AM


Wrong.     Bush had an ideal situation.     Clinton gave him a surplus budget and the country had no BALOONS to pop for the future.   9/11 comes and he attacks the wrong nation working our country into poverty.     He gives tax cuts and promises 1.4million new jobs to come out of it and all we get is a deficet of 1.7 million jobs.

To take the heat off his bad image, Rove and team unleash the banks to give anyone a home that can fog a glass................... .hoping to be outta there before the pyramid crashed and leave it for the next guy.    

Now we have Obama trying to get things done but hes having to stop bipartisan bullshit every other day....... ::)
It's weird, I could have sworn that idiot Barney Frank was at the head of that line of BS.


333386: The truth hurts.
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2009, 06:37:41 AM
It's weird, I could have sworn that idiot Barney Frank was at the head of that line of BS.


333386: The truth hurts.

About what? 

Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 24, 2009, 08:17:05 AM
hahaah that sounds silly but you believe that an entire country plotted 9/11 got other countries to go in on the wmd idea so basically one state is silly but a few countries totally plausable?

Aren't you an out of work college graduate?   ::)

Your government lies.  Get over it. 
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: tonymctones on February 24, 2009, 08:56:48 AM
Aren't you an out of work college graduate?   ::)

Your government lies.  Get over it. 
I have no doubt the governement lies, now as for your 9/11 ct no but my point remains the same 240 believes its silly to think that a state might hide something but not that a country or better yet multiple countries are hiding something?

i have a part time job as of right now...and you are?
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on February 24, 2009, 08:58:01 AM
I have no doubt the governement lies, now as for your 9/11 ct no but my point remains the same 240 believes its silly to think that a state might hide something but not that a country or better yet multiple countries are hiding something?

i have a part time job as of right now...and you are?

I'm gainfully employed. 

And yes you're right 240 is being a hypocrite in his thinking. 
Title: Re: Sen Richard Shelby questions Obama's citizenship
Post by: a_joker10 on February 24, 2009, 09:25:37 AM
Bush was a classic Neo-Liberal.

Believed in Globalization

Supply side economics and deregulation

The same was true of Clinton and was true both Bush Sr. and Reagan

By the way what the stock market value before Pelosi and Reid took over. With their arrival neo-liberalism did and old fashioned embedded liberalism reappeared.

You can blame the president all you want, but the congress and senate control the spending and banking regulations in the US.

For one they changed energy program so that there was a large run on Oil.

The other is that they fought regulations for the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at the same time as they were taking political contributions.