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Federal Reserve chief says full recovery from this recession will take more than two or three years.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said he's hoping the recession could end later this year, but he cautioned that a full economic recovery will take "more than two or three years."
The head of the central bank said a turnaround will only occur "if actions taken by the administration, the Congress, and the Federal Reserve are successful in restoring some measure of financial stability." He also acknowledged there's significant risks to the downside for the economy this year
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Federal Reserve chief says full recovery from this recession will take more than two or three years.
Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said he's hoping the recession could end later this year, but he cautioned that a full economic recovery will take "more than two or three years."
The head of the central bank said a turnaround will only occur "if actions taken by the administration, the Congress, and the Federal Reserve are successful in restoring some measure of financial stability." He also acknowledged there's significant risks to the downside for the economy this year
No shit.. It took 8 years to get in it..
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No shit.. It took 8 years to get in it..
Longer than that.
Just look at the recent news bit - "Robert Rubin sued for Ponzi Scheme at Citi"
Do you think he was foing anything different while Sec. Treasury for Clinton?
This has been brewing for many many years.
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No shit.. It took 8 years to get in it..
Please..........stop the bullshit. Clinton was as much responsible for our current economic crisis as anyone. He signed NAFTA into law which was the beginning of destruction of jobs and American manufacturing. This isn't a republican vs. democrat issue. It's a globalist agenda issue. Every President for the last 75 years is responsible for this mess we are in.
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Hahah Bernanke speaks and the stock market rises. LMAO! What a joke.
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Hahah Bernanke speaks and the stock market rises. LMAO! What a joke.
It defies logic. Some days you don't hear shit and it goes down like a stone. Some days it's all bad news and it goes up. Retarded.
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Exactly, 3333--I'm sure Rubin was just a totally swell guy and then one day suddenly decided to become a greedy crook. Damn right this mess has been brewing a lot more than 8 measly years.
You can't blame it on any one guy, big_mal. The mess we're in is a symptom of bigger problems. And I'm probably just a little prejudiced--I work for a financial software company and talk to these folks on a daily basis and so many of them are complete unmitigated assholes of the first degree. But like I said I'm probably biased.
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In August he said the economy was fine even though we were 8 months into a recession. Just a couple of months ago he was saying the bad times would be over by mid 09 with a recovery in the second half of 09. He is pushing out the deadline because he has NO CLUE what he is talking about.
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In August he said the economy was fine even though we were 8 months into a recession. Just a couple of months ago he was saying the bad times would be over by mid 09 with a recovery in the second half of 09. He is pushing out the deadline because he has NO CLUE what he is talking about.
All he's doing is buying time. You now that old saying that if you throw a frog into boiling water it will jump out but if you bring the water to a slow boil you'll kill it? That's exactly what's happening to our economy. And if you don't think this is all planned......well like they say....keep drinking the kool aid. We are on our way to the nationalization of banks and our financial system but the only problem is it will all be at the behest of the private federal reserve cartel.
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All he's doing is buying time. You now that old saying that if you throw a frog into boiling water it will jump out but if you bring the water to a slow boil you'll kill it? That's exactly what's happening to our economy. And if you don't think this is all planned......well like they say....keep drinking the kool aid. We are on our way to the nationalization of banks and our financial system but the only problem is it will all be at the behest of the private federal reserve cartel.
I enjoy your posts bud. Keep em coming.
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Please..........stop the bullshit. Clinton was as much responsible for our current economic crisis as anyone. He signed NAFTA into law which was the beginning of destruction of jobs and American manufacturing. This isn't a republican vs. democrat issue. It's a globalist agenda issue. Every President for the last 75 years is responsible for this mess we are in.
so this is a combination of like 10 things is what youre saying.
Ill definatley say NAFTA fucked us.
What are some other factors
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so this is a combination of like 10 things is what youre saying.
Ill definatley say NAFTA fucked us.
What are some other factors
Dont you realize - this is not a Dem/Gop issue - its a global bankers/govt in bed with each other mess.
Both parties are equally guilty since both are deeply in bed with the bankers.
Go read my article about Robert Rubin at Citi.
His self proclaimed protege' is Geithner.
Stanford is huge Dem donor as was Madoff.
There is an article today on CNBC that Bidens' family was involved with Stanford.
The govt is as bad or worse than the greedy pigs in the banks.
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so this is a combination of like 10 things is what youre saying.
Ill definatley say NAFTA fucked us.
What are some other factors
Look, most people can't handle the term new world order. Their mind is brainwashed to automatically conjure up images of bigfoot and the lochness monster. Everything happening in the world right now, especially in the US, is a catalyst to concentrate power and usher in a new world government and one world currency. This isn't some conspiracy theory. The centralization of world governments and the global economy is as old as Plato's Republic. The power elite (banks, monopolistic corporations, extremely influential wealthy families) that run the world have been vying for power over our country since our country declared independence. The American people are having war waged upon their way of life.......problem is most don't even realize it.
Also Clinton oveturned the Glass-Stegall act as well. The American people need to quit buying into this game that one political party is better or more capable than the other. They ALL are throwbacks to the wealthy global elite. George Soros was pretty much single handedly responsible for putting Obama in office. Now take that a step further and look into the beliefs of this very rich and powerful man. You'll come to understand what I'm talking about. Obama is simply a puppet.
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Just like KRS One said - Obama is the black face on the NWO.
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Just like KRS One said - Obama is the black face on the NWO.
Somebody laughed at me in another thread but I'll say it again........the negro race overall is very resistant to "mind control". Dig deeper into what I mean and it will put a lot of global geopolitics into perspective.
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It defies logic. Some days you don't hear shit and it goes down like a stone. Some days it's all bad news and it goes up. Retarded.
PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM.....research it.
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PLUNGE PROTECTION TEAM.....research it.
Also known as the Government's working group on financial markets.
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Also known as the Government's working group on financial markets.
What a circus.
The more I see day to day, the more I know Celente is 10000% accurate about what is coming.
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question: i also believe that they are trying to introduce a one world currency, with that said does anyone know what is the best way to preserve wealth? (currently have cash in the bank)
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question: i also believe that they are trying to introduce a one world currency, with that said does anyone know what is the best way to preserve wealth? (currently have cash in the bank)
Go work for the govt.
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i like that, but not an option
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Somebody laughed at me in another thread but I'll say it again........the negro race overall is very resistant to "mind control". Dig deeper into what I mean and it will put a lot of global geopolitics into perspective.
yeah with dumb ass statements like that its hard to take you serious...you obviously dont know how to group sections of the population..well to let you know..race isnt an accurate way to track a phenom...
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yeah with dumb ass statements like that its hard to take you serious...you obviously dont know how to group sections of the population..well to let you know..race isnt an accurate way to track a phenom...
Go listen to the KRS One video. It was very good. KRS One is a man well ahead of his time.
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I enjoy your posts bud. Keep em coming.
Bro, you're all over the place.
You do realize McMannus is more "socialist/anarchist" than any other poster on this board?
Compare his views to those of Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky, two authors which I'm sure McMannus have both read and agrees with.
Your former favorite Ron Paul is an avid free-trade supporter ie globalization.
McMannus gave some pretty good cold hard facts on globalization.
Maybe you are socialist-anarchist in disguise, without even knowing it, Bindare? :o ;)
Somebody laughed at me in another thread but I'll say it again........the negro race overall is very resistant to "mind control". Dig deeper into what I mean and it will put a lot of global geopolitics into perspective.
You can't expect to be taken seriously when making BS statements about the "negro race".
First of all, there's no fcuking "negro race".
You got Somalians, Massais, West-Africans, Pygmees et al.
All these ethnicities have a different history.
And there's no fcuking evidence that they would be more resistant to "mind control".
What load of bullshit is that?
You could argue the total opposite as well - that because "negro" countries have on average a lower IQ (source Vanhanen, Wealth of nations), they would be easier to control.
You ridicule yourself. And anyone who buys into your shit do too.
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yeah with dumb ass statements like that its hard to take you serious...you obviously dont know how to group sections of the population..well to let you know..race isnt an accurate way to track a phenom...
Negro is a term referring to people of Black ancestry. Prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s, the appellation was accepted as a normal neutral formal term both by those of Black African descent as well as non-African blacks. Now it is often considered an ethnic slur[1][2][3] although the term is considered archaic and is not common as a racist slur. The term is still used in some contexts for historical reasons such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund.[4][5] "Negro" means "black" in Spanish, Portuguese, and ancient Italian[6]; all of these derive from the Latin guy (i.e. "black").
Modern synonyms in common use include the following:
Black
Black African
African American (in U.S.A.)
Dumb ass? Do the fucking research and understand what I'm saying before you yourself come off as a dumbass. I'm taking about "Africa" and the cultures and people that make up Africa hence the term "negro". The negroid race. That's all I meant. It's just a term.
Anyways, this is what I'm talking about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_Mutwa
http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-june25-2005.htm
Now watch this fucking video and learn something. If you can get passed the alien/reptillian bullshit you can understand what I'm talking about.
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I have no problem with the term negro.
However, I'm still calling your claim about a "negro race" bullshit.
And how they would somehow be resistant to mind control...
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This is the way the "illuminati" want us to react.....to be hypnotized by their supposed power.....to become blind to their existence.... Credo Mutwa
The human being is trying to bring out the god in hiself............and we are succeeding.......Credo Mutwa
hence my point of mind control.........Africa was the cradle of civilization and it is the last bastion of anti-new world order. Why do you think the US military is forming AFRICOMM etc?
This all comes down to the true power of the human spirit and the truth movement that is happening all over the world.
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I have no problem with the term negro.
However, I'm still calling your claim about a "negro race" bullshit.
And how they would somehow be resistant to mind control...
"mind control" does not mean what you think it means. When I say mind control I mean basically everything you see happening in the world today, in the industrialized world. the New world order. The disintigration of the nature/human connection, the loss of true spirituality among humanity, the rampant materialism and zombie like existence most of us live. T.v., Ipods, Britney Spears, etc etc. It's all "mind control". Africa is the last place on earth where there are free people and free culture. It's much more complex but that's the jist of it. Native Americans have been destroyed along with their culture and their ties to the natural world for example. It's new agey shit and unless you have an open mind and shake off your prexisting brainwashing about human beings, religion, humanity, the history of the world etc. you can't really understand what I'm talking about.
David Icke goes into the reptillian race and shit like that. Again you might think it's crazy and it may well be. But some of it makes sense. The details might be lunacy but the message is fascinating.
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Africa doesn't fit into the NWO because nobody wants it. Africa is dirty, stoneage, violent, has no real economic activity and is full of negros. It's like a continent sized Detroit.
Dude just shut up. You know nothing and have no clue what you're talking about. China is setting up deals all over the continent for oil and natural resources. Like I said why do you think the US is creating "Africom" etc? Africa is one of the last fertile places on Earth. The breadbasket of the world.
Do you realize that Australia is going through major drought right now? Do you realize Australia is the bread basket of southeast asia and are responsible for producing a large part of food for that part of the world. I mean shit dude why do you think we are in the Middle East? To fight terrorists? LMAO!
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Africa doesn't fit into the NWO because nobody wants it. Africa is dirty, stoneage, violent, has no real economic activity and is full of negros. It's like a continent sized Detroit.
And what the hell do you think people were saying about America when Native Americans were inhabiting our land? What do you think the Spanish were saying about Mexico and Latin America? I thought you went to college dude? LMAO!
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And what the hell do you think people were saying about America when Native Americans were inhabiting our land? What do you think the Spanish were saying about Mexico and Latin America? I thought you went to college dude? LMAO!
What are you trying to go with this? We should look at africa as a potential colony? wtf?
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Africa doesn't fit into the NWO because nobody wants it. Africa is dirty, stoneage, violent, has no real economic activity and is full of negros. It's like a continent sized Detroit.
There are enormous natural resources in Africa.
The continent have extreme potential, if there would be any type of democracy down there.
But the problem is that these people do not have any democratic traditions at all.
Robert Putnam showed in a study of South and North Italy that democracy needs several years, maybe hundreds of years of "cultivation" in form of different types of social networks. Eg sport clubs, choirs, community clubs, et al.
That gives democracy a sound base to build on.
In Africa in general?
You have absolutely nothing of that. Tribesmen killing each other - that's whatcha got.
They even regressed to using bows and arrows in fighting each other in Kenya these days. ::)
(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-12/44097344.jpg)
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Dude just shut up. You know nothing and have no clue what you're talking about. China is setting up deals all over the continent for oil and natural resources. Like I said why do you think the US is creating "Africom" etc? Africa is one of the last fertile places on Earth. The breadbasket of the world.
Do you realize that Australia is going through major drought right now? Do you realize Australia is the bread basket of southeast asia and are responsible for producing a large part of food for that part of the world. I mean shit dude why do you think we are in the Middle East? To fight terrorists? LMAO!
Ok dude, check it out... Africa is the breadbasket of the world, eh? Thats why they are chronically starving every year since WW2? Thats why Zimbabwe is doing so well, eh? Wow...
The only truely functional african nation is South Africa. Egypt can be argued to be margional as well.
I didn't realize we were talking about Austraulia, but ok.... Yes, AU has an ass-kicking drought right now. The US produces a MASSIVE amount more food commodities than AU does, even in good years down under. If they slow down a bit, it helps us economically. No real value is coming out of an independent africa anytime soon.
Anyone can exploit the natural resources of the dark continent, you just need enough $$$ to pay off the local warlord, and enough firepower to keep the local tribesmen out.
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You guys are looking at the world through your brainwashed ideology and preconceived notions.
Like I said if you can sift through all the alien and reptillian bullshit you will find a lot of truth in Credo Mutwa and the story of Africa. Africa was home to some of the greatest, most advanced civilizations the world has ever seen.
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Ok dude, check it out... Africa is the breadbasket of the world, eh? Thats why they are chronically starving every year since WW2? Thats why Zimbabwe is doing so well, eh? Wow...
The only truely functional african nation is South Africa. Egypt can be argued to be margional as well.
I didn't realize we were talking about Austraulia, but ok.... Yes, AU has an ass-kicking drought right now. The US produces a MASSIVE amount more food commodities than AU does, even in good years down under. If they slow down a bit, it helps us economically. No real value is coming out of an independent africa anytime soon.
Anyone can exploit the natural resources of the dark continent, you just need enough $$$ to pay off the local warlord, and enough firepower to keep the local tribesmen out.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. It's the last "wild" place on the planet. I mean my god dude look at all the amazing animals that exist in that place. Just like the rainforests of South America. The biodiversity is astounding. The people of Africa might be backasswards in your opinion but that has nothing to do with its rich history and amazing geography and natural resources.
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Negro is a term referring to people of Black ancestry. Prior to the shift in the lexicon of American and worldwide classification of race and ethnicity in the late 1960s, the appellation was accepted as a normal neutral formal term both by those of Black African descent as well as non-African blacks. Now it is often considered an ethnic slur[1][2][3] although the term is considered archaic and is not common as a racist slur. The term is still used in some contexts for historical reasons such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund.[4][5] "Negro" means "black" in Spanish, Portuguese, and ancient Italian[6]; all of these derive from the Latin guy (i.e. "black").
Modern synonyms in common use include the following:
Black
Black African
African American (in U.S.A.)
Dumb ass? Do the fucking research and understand what I'm saying before you yourself come off as a dumbass. I'm taking about "Africa" and the cultures and people that make up Africa hence the term "negro". The negroid race. That's all I meant. It's just a term.
Anyways, this is what I'm talking about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_Mutwa
http://www.newsforthesoul.com/icke-june25-2005.htm
Now watch this fucking video and learn something. If you can get passed the alien/reptillian bullshit you can understand what I'm talking about.
First off..calm the fuck down chief
I dont care about the term negro..i never cared...some people are slow getting over things. i get that.
Im talking about classifying a phenomenon as "black" or "white" when real science (social as well as bio) says that to link phenom outside of something physical such as "blacks have more melonin or blacks have kinky hair" is stupid..To say a social phenom can be attributed to a race is dumb...its like saying.."white men do all the pedo shit" um no, they are on the news about it a lot but they dont have some genetic predisposition to liking underaged kids..So to say "negros have a hard time doing this or doing that" is very limiting. Now to say "someone in this economic class does this" is a better indicator..
For example..remember when it was widley accepted that blacks were dumb and couldnt do this and that...and it was accepted in the "scientific comminity" as a truth..yeah. well it takes one to debunk a law and it becomes a theory and that theory is invalid. You seem like a smart guy. Dont limit yourself or your thinking.
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First off..calm the fuck down chief
I dont care about the term negro..i never cared...some people are slow getting over things. i get that.
Im talking about classifying a phenomenon as "black" or "white" when real science (social as well as bio) says that to link phenom outside of something physical such as "blacks have more melonin or blacks have kinky hair" is stupid..To say a social phenom can be attributed to a race is dumb...its like saying.."white men do all the pedo shit" um no, they are on the news about it a lot but they dont have some genetic predisposition to liking underaged kids..So to say "negros have a hard time doing this or doing that" is very limiting. Now to say "someone in this economic class does this" is a better indicator..
For example..remember when it was widley accepted that blacks were dumb and couldnt do this and that...and it was accepted in the "scientific comminity" as a truth..yeah. well it takes one to debunk a law and it becomes a theory and that theory is invalid. You seem like a smart guy. Dont limit yourself or your thinking.
I'm talking about African culture and black Africans. Hence in general the negroid race. Black african culture is entirely different than any other culture on the planet. that's the jist of me using the term "negroid". Now you're opening up a whole can of worms discussing socio vs. biological differences. Anyways, youre missing the entire point of my posts and why I brought up the issue of "mind control". And actually Africans/black/negroids are very spiritual, intelligent, intuitive people. Unforunately their culture has been destroyed and they've assimilated into the western way of thinking. Just like the Native Ameircan culture has been destroyed, just like the Amazonian culture has been destroyed. We will all be living in McDonald land and the human race will be controlled under one government. That's the point of all this debate. Whether you believe in god, atheist, the occult etc. We are all connected through human consciousness, love, and nature. Now if you want to get into some far out shit we can start talking about repitllian DNA and the clams shells on Everest. :)
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. It's the last "wild" place on the planet. I mean my god dude look at all the amazing animals that exist in that place. Just like the rainforests of South America. The biodiversity is astounding. The people of Africa might be backasswards in your opinion but that has nothing to do with its rich history and amazing geography and natural resources.
Your right, I'm not. You say africa was home to the greatest , most advanced civilizations the world has ever seen. It's been a long time since Timbuktu and Alexandria dude. What are we talking about because you keep vacillating back and forth. Yes, africa has nice animals... and you know what, just about every one is going to be extinct in the next 100 years because the local residents poach the shit out of them. Umboojoo the Kenyan will off a 60 year old elephant for literally a couple bucks in tusks.
Africa is the cradle of civilization, yes, but it has regressed even from that level.
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Your right, I'm not. You say africa was home to the greatest , most advanced civilizations the world has ever seen. It's been a long time since Timbuktu and Alexandria dude. What are we talking about because you keep vacillating back and forth. Yes, africa has nice animals... and you know what, just about every one is going to be extinct in the next 100 years because the local residents poach the shit out of them. Umboojoo the Kenyan will off a 60 year old elephant for literally a couple bucks in tusks.
Africa is the cradle of civilization, yes, but it has regressed even from that level.
::) There exists a duality in EVERYTHING and EVERWHERE in the world. Good and evil, black and white, yin and yang, etc. Duality exists in human consciousness as well. yes there are lots of Africans who don't give a shit about their environment or their culture etc. But there are Park Rangers that will GIVE THEIR LIFE protecting an elephant. Just like in America there are shitheads who don't care about anything. You seem to have a shitty attitude about the world. I believe the animals in Africa can be saved as much as I believe America can turn itself around and shake off the grip the NWO has on our country. The only thing that matters is whether or not we can get the truth out to enough people before its too late.
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::) There exists a duality in EVERYTHING and EVERWHERE in the world. Good and evil, black and white, yin and yang, etc. Duality exists in human consciousness as well. yes there are lots of Africans who don't give a shit about their environment or their culture etc. But there are Park Rangers that will GIVE THEIR LIFE protecting an elephant. Just like in America there are shitheads who don't care about anything. You seem to have a shitty attitude about the world. I believe the animals in Africa can be saved as much as I believe America can turn itself around and shake off the grip the NWO has on our country. The only thing that matters is whether or not we can get the truth out to enough people before its too late.
So, this is what I hear you saying, please correct me if I am wrong:
1. Africa is the foundation of all humanity, yet is wild.
2. Africa is being kept down by the NWO
3. Blacks aren't suseptible to mind control
4. The US military is creating an african expeditionary force
5. Australia is the breadbasket of the world, and we are in the middle east because of Australia.
6. Africa is the breadbasket of the world, except that they are all starving
7. The Spanish thought the indians were africans.
8. African culture has been destroyed by McDonalds
9. Anyone who doesn't believe in a reptillian race is brainwashed
10.There are clamshells on Mt. Everest
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So, this is what I hear you saying, please correct me if I am wrong:
1. Africa is the foundation of all humanity, yet is wild.
2. Africa is being kept down by the NWO
3. Blacks aren't suseptible to mind control
4. The US military is creating an african expeditionary force
5. Australia is the breadbasket of the world, and we are in the middle east because of Australia.
6. Africa is the breadbasket of the world, except that they are all starving
7. The Spanish thought the indians were africans.
8. African culture has been destroyed by McDonalds
9. Anyone who doesn't believe in a reptillian race is brainwashed
10.There are clamshells on Mt. Everest
;D LMAO!
My whole point stems from the global control of cultures and governments i.e. nations and continents. The entire world is heading towards one world government. As this takes place you will see a systematic destruction of people and culture along with nature and our natural spirit. I.e. our ties to the natural environment. Our natural "consciousness" so to speak. Africa is the last bastion of indigenous culture. Latin America to an extent and certain pockets all over the world. But Africa is still truly an "unruly" and resource rich place ripe for the global take over by the power elite. Did you even listen to the youtube video I posted? No you didn't. There is a HUGE VAST array of knowledge, indigenous knowledge about history and our existence that is being controlled, basically we are being lied to and have been for a long time. Again why is debateable. There are theories that exist that say man most definitely walked the Earth with dinosaurs. Many many cultures across the world that have had zero contact with each other all depict alien like creatures in their culture and history. Why? Where does it come from? Dreams? Consciousness, or actual sightings?
And no I never said shit about the reptillian race. I said if you do the research and look upon the subject with an open mind it's very fascinating and there is A LOT of truth to the argument as far fetched and ludicrous as it sounds.
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I'm talking about African culture and black Africans. Hence in general the negroid race. Black african culture is entirely different than any other culture on the planet. that's the jist of me using the term "negroid". Now you're opening up a whole can of worms discussing socio vs. biological differences. Anyways, youre missing the entire point of my posts and why I brought up the issue of "mind control". And actually Africans/black/negroids are very spiritual, intelligent, intuitive people. Unforunately their culture has been destroyed and they've assimilated into the western way of thinking. Just like the Native Ameircan culture has been destroyed, just like the Amazonian culture has been destroyed. We will all be living in McDonald land and the human race will be controlled under one government. That's the point of all this debate. Whether you believe in god, atheist, the occult etc. We are all connected through human consciousness, love, and nature. Now if you want to get into some far out shit we can start talking about repitllian DNA and the clams shells on Everest. :)
ok..we cool
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so this is a combination of like 10 things is what youre saying.
Ill definatley say NAFTA fucked us.
What are some other factors
The community reinvestment act is 100% responsible for the husing meltdown.Passed by Carter,pushed by Clinton.
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The community reinvestment act is 100% responsible for the husing meltdown.Passed by Carter,pushed by Clinton.
How do you think the situation would've been if Reagan, Bush Sr and Bush Jr would have produced balanced budgets?
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The community reinvestment act is 100% responsible for the husing meltdown.Passed by Carter,pushed by Clinton.
::) Wrong again! It's not ONE THING. It's a culmination of things over the past 50 years. What about Bush's American Dream Down Payment initiative? come on dude.....you're sucked into this whole it was him not him mantra that is dividing our country.
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::) Wrong again! It's not ONE THING. It's a culmination of things over the past 50 years. What about Bush's American Dream Down Payment initiative? come on dude.....you're sucked into this whole it was him not him mantra that is dividing our country.
Good post.
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Good post.
This problem is because Big Govt and Big Business and Big Wall Street are all in bed with each other and engaged in a recklessness rarely ever seen at this scale.
Its both parties, the wall street pigs, and the intl. corporate titans.
Also, many fools in this country took on way too much debt and refused to live a frugal life.
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This problem is because Big Govt and Big Business and Big Wall Street are all in bed with each other and engaged in a recklessness rarely ever seen at this scale.
Its both parties, the wall street pigs, and the intl. corporate titans.
Also, many fools in this country took on way too much debt and refused to live a frugal life.
Look to other countries, where people are not in as big debt.
How do their economic and political system look?
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::) Wrong again! It's not ONE THING. It's a culmination of things over the past 50 years. What about Bush's American Dream Down Payment initiative? come on dude.....you're sucked into this whole it was him not him mantra that is dividing our country.
QFT
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Look to other countries, where people are not in as big debt.
How do their economic and political system look?
Those countries are in a mess because of the intl corporate are doing the same things the ones do here.
Those govts are broke too because their spending is completely insane.
Its an intl problem now.
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Those countries are in a mess because of the intl corporate are doing the same things the ones do here.
Those govts are broke too because their spending is completely insane.
Its an intl problem now.
Actually China will weather this storm pretty well. This whole myth of they need us as much as we need them is just that, a myth.
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Actually China will weather this storm pretty well. This whole myth of they need us as much as we need them is just that, a myth.
HAHAHA
China needs the US as much or more than the other way.
American consumerism is the reason why many Chinese have jobs.
If civil unrest happens in China it is because Americans quits buying.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-12-02-china-protest_N.htm
Zhang Ping, China's top economic planner, said last week that "excessive bankruptcies and production cuts will lead to massive unemployment and stir social unrest." And police chief Meng Jianzhu warned of "lots of social problems affecting stability under the current circumstances."
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HAHAHA
China needs the US as much or more than the other way.
American consumerism is the reason why many Chinese have jobs.
If civil unrest happens in China it is because Americans quits buying.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-12-02-china-protest_N.htm
Zhang Ping, China's top economic planner, said last week that "excessive bankruptcies and production cuts will lead to massive unemployment and stir social unrest." And police chief Meng Jianzhu warned of "lots of social problems affecting stability under the current circumstances."
You can argue me all you want on this issue. I'll say it again..........the Chinese will weather this storm and emerge as the next economic superpower with or without our consumption. Once the smoke clears and countries revamp their banking systems and economic systems there will be a very hungry market for cheap Chinese goods once again. You act like the US is the only nation thirsty for prosperity and consumption. Plus the damn Chinese own so much of our debt they will be buying up US assets like crazy.
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You can argue me all you want on this issue. I'll say it again..........the Chinese will weather this storm and emerge as the next economic superpower with or without our consumption. Once the smoke clears and countries revamp their banking systems and economic systems there will be a very hungry market for cheap Chinese goods once again. You act like the US is the only nation thirsty for prosperity and consumption. Plus the damn Chinese own so much of our debt they will be buying up US assets like crazy.
you don't understand the scale of American consumption.
America buys 30% of the worlds goods.
No market can replace that.
If China's unemployment increases even by a couple of percentage points the Communists are in trouble, they know this and so does the US government.
If the American economy tanks, China will go down too.
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you don't understand the scale of American consumption.
America buys 30% of the worlds goods.
No market can replace that.
If China's unemployment increases even by a couple of percentage points the Communists are in trouble, they know this and so does the US government.
If the American economy tanks, China will go down too.
We'll see.
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How do you think the situation would've been if Reagan, Bush Sr and Bush Jr would have produced balanced budgets?
A balanced budget is IMPOSSIBLE with our monetary system. A government that has to "borrow" it's own currency is in a cycle of perpetual debt. Clinton did not balance the budget or have a surplus. They stole from the Social Security Trust and replaced it with IOU's.
Federal reserve is formed in 1913. We then go bankrupt in 20 years with Roosevelt's confiscation of privately held gold. Federal Reserve tricked our government out of it's own gold by making it pay interest on the currency issued, while also providing the backing for it - in essence the government was paying interest on it's own gold.
with a debt currency, a balanced budget is impossible because there is not enough money in circulation to pay off both interest and principle. This means continued borrowing allowing the government to be overlayed with shell corporations and owned and controlled like any other corporation.
Our government is gone, the only way to recover as a sovereign nation is by conquest and seperating ourselves from the British Crown - something our founding fathers failed to do in the Revolutionary War.
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A balanced budget is IMPOSSIBLE with our monetary system. A government that has to "borrow" it's own currency is in a cycle of perpetual debt. Clinton did not balance the budget or have a surplus. They stole from the Social Security Trust and replaced it with IOU's.
Federal reserve is formed in 1913. We then go bankrupt in 20 years with Roosevelt's confiscation of privately held gold. Federal Reserve tricked our government out of it's own gold by making it pay interest on the currency issued, while also providing the backing for it - in essence the government was paying interest on it's own gold.
with a debt currency, a balanced budget is impossible because there is not enough money in circulation to pay off both interest and principle. This means continued borrowing allowing the government to be overlayed with shell corporations and owned and controlled like any other corporation.
Our government is gone, the only way to recover as a sovereign nation is by conquest and seperating ourselves from the British Crown - something our founding fathers failed to do in the Revolutionary War.
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Bro, you're all over the place.
You do realize McMannus is more "socialist/anarchist" than any other poster on this board?
Compare his views to those of Naomi Klein and Noam Chomsky, two authors which I'm sure McMannus have both read and agrees with.
Your former favorite Ron Paul is an avid free-trade supporter ie globalization.
McMannus gave some pretty good cold hard facts on globalization.
Maybe you are socialist-anarchist in disguise, without even knowing it, Bindare? :o ;)
YOu analyzing me Hedgehog?
Don't box me in, Swede. >:(
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YOu analyzing me Hedgehog?
Don't box me in, Swede. >:(
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never, Bakunin. 8)
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never, Bakunin. 8)
oh boy......