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LOLOL Anyone watching the Republican Response that is a huge trainwreck?
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I wouldn't call it a train wreck but it does seem cheesy.
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I wouldn't call it a train wreck but it does seem cheesy.
He has blatantly lied a few times regarding the Mag Lev train for one.
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That was one of the worst deliveries of a speech I have ever seen. hahhahahhah
"Amerrrrricans Can Do anything"
hahhahhahhah
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LOLOL Anyone watching the Republican Response that is a huge trainwreck?
OBAMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>JINDAL
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Lavar Burton is a motherfu#$ing God among men you bastard...... leave him out of this...... >:( :'( >:( :'(
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Diverse career this guy's had.
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Probably the worst rebuttal in the history of rebuttals...The whole American system is an embarrassment...
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visors would be badass in real life. ;D
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take a look, it's in a book...
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didn't see the governor's response, but he is the best governor we have had in a very long time in this state
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ROFLCOPTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I saw the response. Was perhaps the most lame rebuttal I have seen to date. I do not like Obama and what he doing, I do not like the republicans so much either.
I wish the 2 party system will fail soon. I see no hope for real effective change for the better while either party is in control.
The government does not belong in our affairs of business, health care, and banks. Hell the government can't even run a whore house. Remember what happened to the mustang ranch?
I don't know about you guys but I do not see government running health care for the better, I do not see government doing anything good except providing a strong military and build state and federal highways in which to travel and do commerce.
the people in America need to be more self reliant and get off of their lazy non ambitious fat asses and actually provide for themselves. In America we have perhaps the most pathetic lazy good for nothing groups whom wish for others to do for them. I say fuck them and whatever silly circumstances in which they exist, if they can walk have a heart beat and can read then get a job work till you get somewhere on your own. If you fail then try try try try try try again and again and again...............neve r give up and ask others to do for you.
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I saw the response. Was perhaps the most lame rebuttal I have seen to date. I do not like Obama and what he doing, I do not like the republicans so much either.
I wish the 2 party system will fail soon. I see no hope for real effective change for the better while either party is in control.
The government does not belong in our affairs of business, health care, and banks. Hell the government can't even run a whore house. Remember what happened to the mustang ranch?
I don't know about you guys but I do not see government running health care for the better, I do not see government doing anything good except providing a strong military and build state and federal highways in which to travel and do commerce.
the people in America need to be for self reliant and get off of their lazy non ambitious fat asses and actually provide for themselves. In America we have perhaps the most pathetic lazy good for nothing groups whom wish for others to do for them. I say fuck them and whatever silly circumstances in which they exist, if they can walk have a heart beat and can read then get a job work till you get somewhere on your own. If you fail then try try try try try try again and again and again...............neve r give up and ask others to do for you.
I am a Socialist so naturally you can see that I disagree with everything you have written. No worries though, at least you have the wherewithal to state that Jindal sucks and that the Republican Party is an extreme joke.
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True Socialism does not work. It never has.
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True Socialism does not work. It never has.
True Socialism has never been implemented and every single Socialist leaning country is prospering head and shoulders over their counterparts.
I should have clarified that I am a Democratic Socialist like Tony Benn, Like Norway.
Norway pwns the world at the moment. :)
We do have one Democratic Socialist in Congress, Bernie Sanders from Vermont. He also happens to be by far the most intelligent member.
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I heart Bernie Sanders. Watch this and you will love him too!
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I heart Bernie Sanders. Watch this and you will love him too!
Now that a fucking PWNING.
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Bernie Sanders again.
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True Socialism does not work. It never has.
We can't keep locking up the poor and thinking they are not there...There needs to be programs in place instead of jails...And every human on the planet should have access to all herbs/drugs that can help cure/or ease problems with disease/virus etc...
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LOLOL Anyone watching the Republican Response that is a huge trainwreck?
Adonis I bet Bobby Jindal also believes that Brokeback mountain was the best movie ever made ;)
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Here is my absolute hero. Tony Benn
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I heart Bernie Sanders. Watch this and you will love him too!
excellent clip Adonis...Thanks for this...
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Here is my absolute hero. Tony Benn
Your liberal leaning socialistic views cloud your judgement. Jindal may not have given the best speech tonight, but sometimes its not about delivery, its about content. Obama says he wants to bring the budget under control, after signing a bill last week that cost just under a trillion dollars. I know you think socialism may work, but it wont and its pretty clear by now.
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Bernie Sanders again.
Brilliant clip Adonis...This guy is right on the money...
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST CLIPS EVER!
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Adonis, the guys you have been posting are borderline lunatics. Above is a man who has his head around the problem.
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Your liberal leaning socialistic views cloud your judgement. Jindal may not have given the best speech tonight, but sometimes its not about delivery, its about content. Obama says he wants to bring the budget under control, after signing a bill last week that cost just under a trillion dollars. I know you think socialism may work, but it wont and its pretty clear by now.
Clear by who? As a business owner, I would for sure would pay more taxes if I would never have to worry about health insurance for employee's...That is fucking huge...And if disability and unemployment insurance was also taken care of by the government...Are you kidding me...Small business's would fucking blossom in a system like that...
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Clear by who? As a business owner, I would for sure would pay more taxes if I would never have to worry about health insurance for employee's...That is fucking huge...And if disability and unemployment insurance was also taken care of by the government...Are you kidding me...Small business's would fucking blossom in a system like that...
Do you realize what you are saying? What happens any time the government puts its hands on something? The federal governments hand is slow and lumbering and healthcare would go to shit.
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Adonis, the guys you have been posting are borderline lunatics. Above is a man who has his head around the problem.
Ron Paul thinks that he can build a wall around America...That sort of thinking is what got Soviet Empire into trouble...America needs to stop building prisons and start building schools...Nobody wants to grow up and be a fucking criminal...Its the system in much to many cases that gives a person that label...
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GOP's bright star...pretty much looks like.....uuuuhhhh Sarah Palin and 2008 McCain....all fake , it's almost like you can see the fucking strings hanging off his arms and legs... they definitely forgot to attach any to his shoulders just watch the clip...ROFL.....and to think I thought he was smarter than his predecessors...yikes.
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Ron Paul thinks that he can build a wall around America...That sort of thinking is what got Soviet Empire into trouble...America needs to stop building prisons and start building schools...Nobody wants to grow up and be a fucking criminal...Its the system in much to many cases that gives a person that label...
Are you serious? Ron Paul wants states to have their rights back. The federal government didn't have power like it does today until around the 30's and for the most part things were going pretty well.
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Uh,
FDR was president in the 30s.
Thanks for making my point. Remember that little thing called the "new deal"?
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Are you serious? Ron Paul wants states to have their rights back. The federal government didn't have power like it does today until around the 30's and for the most part things were going pretty well.
Luckily Federal Law invalidates our North Carolina Constitution.
http://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/NC/STGOVT/article_vi.HTM
Check this section and prepare to be appalled.
Sec. 8. Disqualifications for office.
The following persons shall be disqualified for office:
First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.
Second, with respect to any office that is filled by election by the people, any person who is not qualified to vote in an election for that office.
Third, any person who has been adjudged guilty of treason or any other felony against this State or the United States, or any person who has been adjudged guilty of a felony in another state that also would be a felony if it had been committed in this State, or any person who has been adjudged guilty of corruption or malpractice in any office, or any person who has been removed by impeachment from any office, and who has not been restored to the rights of citizenship in the manner prescribed by law.
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Do you realize what you are saying? What happens any time the government puts its hands on something? The federal governments hand is slow and lumbering and healthcare would go to shit.
I agree...That really is the point...Letting Billionaires run the world is the worst thing for all of us regular folk(they made their money on the backs of slaves)...To change government, we need to elect people who don't give a fuck about money/power etc(impossible in this system)...I certainly don't think Obama is that person but we can use him to move into that direction...Lets face it, its us against the Heirarchy...These bloodlines run deep...Pure capitalism is bringing out the worst in people...They want us to be split...I say fuck them...If we give every human the basic needs of just be able to breath, only then can their mind truly be used...Until then, the Billionaires of the world will control us all...
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Now that a fucking PWNING.
Quoted for truth. That was some classic shit right there.
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Do you realize what you are saying? What happens any time the government puts its hands on something? The federal governments hand is slow and lumbering and healthcare would go to shit.
Healthcare would be shit for the poor...But its better then nothing...Everyone else would be able to get better health care because they have the money for specialist...Which would be a business that would thrive...Middle to upper class wouldn't want to stand in a 6 hour line to get a prescription for pain pills, so they would simply see their own specialist...
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Healthcare would be shit for the poor...But its better then nothing...Everyone else would be able to get better health care because they have the money for specialist...Which would be a business that would thrive...Middle to upper class wouldn't want to stand in a 6 hour line to get a prescription for pain pills, so they would simply see their own specialist...
Here is a VERY GOOD explanation of what Obama has planned. Obama`s plan is a great stepping stone. Although I am partial to HR 676 which is the Conyers/Kucinich plan.
Obama`s plan still is great for everybody.
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bernie sanders seems like a good dude. better than most every other elected official ive seen speak. however nothing in any of those videos makes me think hes an actual politician....
a principled philosopher who debates the laws and policies with a sense of empathy for every argument and all political principles and a sense of 'the role of government'.
i yearn for the day when the halls of congress will be filled with real politicians, the likes of thomas jefferson, benjamin franklin, john locke, socrates... etc.
these people in office today are no more than hard headed loudmouths with strong opinions.
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I heart Bernie Sanders. Watch this and you will love him too!
This guy should be president ;D
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True Socialism does not work. It never has.
True but unfortunately neither does democracy weather it be a capitalistic republic or a socialistic republic.
Sooner or later in a republic the people begin voting for what's best for themselves instead of what's best for there country, we have this now; people are wanting to kill the American dream and our economy at the same time via voting for socialistic programs to pay lazy losers who don't want to get a job and want free cell phones, free rent, free food, etc. until our economy is completely dried up. What happened to work hard and provide for your family?
With Socialism sooner or later the heads of the social group line their pockets with money and let their subjects starve until revolt.
The only forms of government with any staying power are Monarchies and Theocracies.
In a Monarchy if the people revolt, the royal family gets replaced by some other line of succession by the heads of state. In a Theocracy no one would rebel against there God.
I'm not saying these are the best forms mind you just the only ones that last........
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Adonis, you are entertaining and all but why do you continue to use outdated interweb phrases like roflcopter and pwned?
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At least he knows that the automobile was not invented in America.
Obama thought otherwise.
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True but unfortunately neither does democracy weather it be a capitalistic republic or a socialistic republic.
Sooner or later in a republic the people begin voting for what's best for themselves instead of what's best for there country, we have this now; people are wanting to kill the American dream and our economy at the same time via voting for socialistic programs to pay lazy losers who don't want to get a job and want free cell phones, free rent, free food, etc. until our economy is completely dried up. What happened to work hard and provide for your family?
With Socialism sooner or later the heads of the social group line their pockets with money and let their subjects starve until revolt.
The only forms of government with any staying power are Monarchies and Theocracies.
In a Monarchy if the people revolt, the royal family gets replaced by some other line of succession by the heads of state. In a Theocracy no one would rebel against there God.
I'm not saying these are the best forms mind you just the only ones that last........
According to Marx, it was:
Democracy--->Socialism------>Communism
If I'm not mistaken. The proletariat revolts against the bourgeois in a never-ending cycle.
The end result is Marxism. What is your opinion on how that would fall?
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Adonis, you are entertaining and all but why do you continue to use outdated interweb phrases like roflcopter and pwned?
because they r0x0r your b0x0rz ;D
and i agree about this Jindal guy, he simply went into the usual republican spouting of negativity and made-up 'facts'
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its funny how republicans are trying to push jindal as their 'new star' just because hes 'ethnic' hahahahahaha
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True Socialism has never been implemented and every single Socialist leaning country is prospering head and shoulders over their counterparts.
I should have clarified that I am a Democratic Socialist like Tony Benn, Like Norway.
Norway pwns the world at the moment. :)
We do have one Democratic Socialist in Congress, Bernie Sanders from Vermont. He also happens to be by far the most intelligent member.
If you admire Norway, then get the fuck out of the USA.. We don't need you...
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its funny how republicans are trying to push jindal as their 'new star' just because hes 'ethnic' hahahahahaha
That isn't it at all. It's because he is one of the smartest guys in government and has actually done good for his state. Which is not what I can say for Arnold in California and that stupid bitch in Michigan..
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At least he knows that the automobile was not invented in America.
Obama thought otherwise.
Hope this helps.
This question does not have a straightforward answer. The history of the automobile is very rich and dates back to the 15th century when Leonardo da Vinci was creating designs and models for transport vehicles.
There are many different types of automobiles - steam, electric, and gasoline - as well as countless styles. Exactly who invented the automobile is a matter of opinion. If we had to give credit to one inventor, it would probably be Karl Benz from Germany. Many suggest that he created the first true automobile in 1885/1886.
Below is a table of some automobile firsts, compiled from information in Leonard Bruno's book Science and Technology Firsts (Detroit, c1997) and About.com's History of the Automobile.
AUTOMOBILE FIRSTS
Inventor
Date
Type/Description
Country
Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot (1725-1804) 1769 STEAM / Built the first self propelled road vehicle (military tractor) for the French army: three wheeled, 2.5 mph. France
Robert Anderson 1832-1839 ELECTRIC / Electric carriage. Scotland
Karl Friedrich Benz (1844-1929) 1885/86 GASOLINE / First true automobile. Gasoline automobile powered by an internal combustion engine: three wheeled, Four cycle, engine and chassis form a single unit. Germany Patent DRP No. 37435
Gottlieb Wilhelm Daimler (1834-1900) and Wilhelm Maybach (1846-1929) 1886 GASOLINE / First four wheeled, four-stroke engine- known as the "Cannstatt-Daimler." Germany
George Baldwin Selden (1846-1922) 1876/95 GASOLINE / Combined internal combustion engine with a carriage: patent no: 549,160 (1895). Never manufactured -- Selden collected royalties. United States
Charles Edgar Duryea (1862-1938) and his brother Frank (1870-1967) 1893 GASOLINE / First successful gas powered car: 4hp, two-stroke motor. The Duryea brothers set up first American car manufacturing company. United States
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LOLOL Anyone watching the Republican Response that is a huge trainwreck?
he has to talk down like that so you people can understand him.
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If you admire Norway, then get the fuck out of the USA.. We don't need you...
You are the minority in America now Coach and its getting smaller and smaller by the day. The walls are closing in on your bankrupt party. Perhaps you will be the one to leave. LOL.
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he has to talk down like that so you people can understand him.
You are the one that thinks the World is only 6000 years old and is mesmerized by fairy tales. Did you forget about that?
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You are the one that thinks the World is only 6000 years old and is mesmerized by fairy tales. Did you forget about that?
So when will Marx prove to be correct Adonis?
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So when will Marx prove to be correct Adonis?
We will never be that lucky as long as there is stupidity in this nation.
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I should have clarified that I am a Democratic Socialist like Tony Benn, Like Norway.
Norway pwns the world at the moment. :)
A logical man like yourself, all these irrational God-lovers, why not relocate?
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A logical man like yourself, all these irrational God-lovers, why not relocate?
America can be great. It is not Love it or leave, it is Love it and fix it.
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If you admire Norway, then get the fuck out of the USA.. We don't need you...
jesus christ...so if you have admiration for particular foreign nations you are a 'traitor'? typical neoconservative trash.
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You are the minority in America now Coach and its getting smaller and smaller by the day. The walls are closing in on your bankrupt party. Perhaps you will be the one to leave. LOL.
Maybe, but it would have to be a Capitalist country... Then again, I served my country and I am not willing to hand it over to liberal ass wads like you just yet....
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I saw the response. Was perhaps the most lame rebuttal I have seen to date. I do not like Obama and what he doing, I do not like the republicans so much either.
I wish the 2 party system will fail soon. I see no hope for real effective change for the better while either party is in control.
The government does not belong in our affairs of business, health care, and banks. Hell the government can't even run a whore house. Remember what happened to the mustang ranch?
I don't know about you guys but I do not see government running health care for the better, I do not see government doing anything good except providing a strong military and build state and federal highways in which to travel and do commerce.
the people in America need to be more self reliant and get off of their lazy non ambitious fat asses and actually provide for themselves. In America we have perhaps the most pathetic lazy good for nothing groups whom wish for others to do for them. I say fuck them and whatever silly circumstances in which they exist, if they can walk have a heart beat and can read then get a job work till you get somewhere on your own. If you fail then try try try try try try again and again and again...............neve r give up and ask others to do for you.
english isnt your first language
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Maybe, but it would have to be a Capitalist country... Then again, I served my country and I am not willing to hand it over to liberal ass wads like you just yet....
You are powerless and will be forever so. The bell has tolled for the Republican Party and there is not enough of you to ever win another Presidency or majority in either house of congress. It is over. Just look at the statistics and demographics of Voter Registration among those 18-30.
OVERWHELMINGLY not Republican. More of you die by the day as the younger generation replaces and cleanses the stain which is you and your party.
Sorry. It is over.
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You are powerless and will be forever so. The bell has tolled for the Republican Party and there is not enough of you to ever win another Presidency or majority in either house of congress. It is over. Just look at the statistics and demographics of Voter Registration among those 18-30.
OVERWHELMINGLY not Republican. More of you die by the day as the younger generation replaces and cleanses the stain which is you and your party.
Sorry. It is over.
I am actually working on a coalition that will be Farming Republican Babies for the election of 2028.
We will focus on small swing states, with each family in a given state expected to gain profit and political capital by exporting 4 or more Republican children for the election of 2028.
With enough families participating, we expect to hold the majority in key precincts for this election.
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I am actually working on a coalition that will be Farming Republican Babies for the election of 2028.
We will focus on small swing states, with each family in a given state expected to gain profit and political capital by exporting 4 or more Republican children for the election of 2028.
With enough families participating, we expect to hold the majority in key precincts for this election.
Make sure you inform them of abortion and birth control. :)
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Make sure you inform them of abortion and birth control. :)
Birth control will only hinder our efforts.
It will mulitiply exponentially, you see.
Operating under the guise of utilitarianism.
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You are powerless and will be forever so. The bell has tolled for the Republican Party and there is not enough of you to ever win another Presidency or majority in either house of congress. It is over. Just look at the statistics and demographics of Voter Registration among those 18-30.
OVERWHELMINGLY not Republican. More of you die by the day as the younger generation replaces and cleanses the stain which is you and your party.
Sorry. It is over.
You seem to forget that political fortunes can change at the drop of a hat. It was just four years ago that the Democrats were the odd men out, with a GOP House, Senate, and presidency. Yet, I don't recall anyone writing the epitaph for the Democratic party.
If this all this spending doesn't get the economy rolling, as advertised, and Obama can't deliver on his promises, the Dems can just as easily get beat up in 2010 the way that the GOP did in 2006.
Obama was elected for one reason: To fix the economy. If he can't, he could meet the same fate as Jimmy Carter.
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America can be great. It is not Love it or leave, it is Love it and fix it.
Oh so we're all going to get on board with the true adonis because he thinks we should think a certain way. what a dope.
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You are powerless and will be forever so. The bell has tolled for the Republican Party and there is not enough of you to ever win another Presidency or majority in either house of congress. It is over. Just look at the statistics and demographics of Voter Registration among those 18-30.
OVERWHELMINGLY not Republican. More of you die by the day as the younger generation replaces and cleanses the stain which is you and your party.
Sorry. It is over.
Ha! that's what rep's were saying a few years ago. You forget that as people get older, they get more conservative as they have some experience in the game of life.
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jesus christ...so if you have admiration for particular foreign nations you are a 'traitor'? typical neoconservative trash.
As opposed to neo-liberal trash of expecting everyone to think a certain way or they're stupid.
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the republican party is its own worst enemy right now.
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the republican party is its own worst enemy right now.
I happen to agree with that and I'm a conservative. However, I don't expect everyone to agree with my beliefs nor do i think you're an idiot if you don't. Morons like True Adouchas think it's his way or no way. I've said it before, he is one of th bigger idiots on these boards. Incidentally, I would take Jindel over that lightweight Pelosi any day and I will be the first to tell u the Rep.'s have slim pickins.
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As opposed to neo-liberal trash of expecting everyone to think a certain way or they're stupid.
Quoted for Yeah! FUCK ELITISM!
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As opposed to neo-liberal trash of expecting everyone to think a certain way or they're stupid.
so hating every country thats not america is the 'right thing to do' then huh ::)
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lol this is the best the GOP can come up with is this cheesy guy. Coach you think this guy can beat Obama? :P. Its funny how the GOP is trying to copy the Democrats. Also do you think redneck racists will vote for this guy ::)
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so hating every country thats not america is the 'right thing to do' then huh ::)
Who said that? No, I don't think so but since you mentioned it, I guess that's along the same lines of hating everyone who doesn't think like you....which seems to be the tone of this thread. Can't have it both ways boys. This isn't a socialist society as Adonis would like, nor will it ever be.
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Jindal did not deliver very well last night but the message of limited government resonates with many Americans. Already there is backlash to the excessive spending programs and expanding government of Obama and Pelosi. The amount of spending that has already occured is incredible and there is much more spending to come with the initiatives announced in the past week.
This country has been moving in a big gov direction for quite a few years. Obama is taking that to the next level. The policies of Bush 2 and Obama are both bad for the country.
Adonis, you are a socialist and I fundamentally disagree with you as socialism has never worked and is absolutely opposed to the foundation of this country. I also do not trust politicians. As a socialist, you trust big gov and politicians. However, I respect your philosophical debate. See, there are smart people who advocate many different types of economic and political systems. Thats why when someone says "she's a liberal so she is stupid" or "how could any intelligent person be a conservative" it makes no sense.
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Jindal is a really smart guy, a former Rhodes scholar and by nearly all accounts is the best gov Louisianna has seen in a very long time. He has come across much better in live interviews and debates. Last night looked too scripted and he was not comfortable.
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Jindal did not deliver very well last night but the message of limited government resonates with many Americans. Already there is backlash to the excessive spending programs and expanding government of Obama and Pelosi. The amount of spending that has already occured is incredible and there is much more spending to come with the initiatives announced in the past week.
This country has been moving in a big gov direction for quite a few years. Obama is taking that to the next level. The policies of Bush 2 and Obama are both bad for the country.
Adonis, you are a socialist and I fundamentally disagree with you as socialism has never worked and is absolutely opposed to the foundation of this country. I also do not trust politicians. As a socialist, you trust big gov and polititians. However, I respect your philosophical debate. See, there are smart people who advocate many different types of economic and political systems. Thats why when someone says "she's a liberal so she is stupid" or "how could any intelligent person be a conservative".
All Scandinavian countries are PWNING at the moment.
Side Note: George Washington had in his will a provision to establish Universal College Access, National University system, free of charge for Anybody in America. His final dream was sadly not realized.
Theodore Roosevelt proposed National Health Care for all as did Richard Nixon.
Democratic Socialism=Progress. There is not a single instance in history where this is not true nor can you come up with any example of negative progress.
The facts are not on your side.
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Maybe, but it would have to be a Capitalist country... Then again, I served my country and I am not willing to hand it over to liberal ass wads like you just yet....
now the closet case claims military service? HA, too short to serve
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Jindal is a really smart guy, a former Rhodes scholar and by nearly all accounts is the best gov Louisianna has seen in a very long time. He has come across much better in live interviews and debates. Last night looked too scripted and he was not comfortable.
exactly, its all about performance in front of the camera, if Obama spoke and performed like this guy he would not be president.
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
- Opposes same sex marriage
- Opposes stem cell research
- Supports banning flag burning
- SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
- Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
- Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
- Opposes same sex marriage
- Opposes stem cell research
- Supports banning flag burning
- SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
- Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
- Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
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So let me get this straight, this thread stays but the Biden (and others) gets moved? Brutal lib bias on here!
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
- Opposes same sex marriage
- Opposes stem cell research
- Supports banning flag burning
- SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
- Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
- Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
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So let me get this straight, this thread stays but the Biden (and others) gets moved? Brutal lib bias on here!
I agree
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Show some respect lib, he maybe your next president in 4 years!!
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
* Opposes same sex marriage
* Opposes stem cell research
* Supports banning flag burning
* SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
* Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
* Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
* Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
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Show some respect lib, he maybe your next president in 4 years!!
After last night Coach , I think Sarah Palin has a better chance.
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bobby jindal will NOT be elected president in 2012
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You are powerless and will be forever so. The bell has tolled for the Republican Party and there is not enough of you to ever win another Presidency or majority in either house of congress. It is over. Just look at the statistics and demographics of Voter Registration among those 18-30.
OVERWHELMINGLY not Republican. More of you die by the day as the younger generation replaces and cleanses the stain which is you and your party.
Sorry. It is over.
Funny you think I am a Republican... Ha! You can be conservative as I am and not be a Republican. Learn your politics first then speak.
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Obama:
Never produced his BC
Racist church for 20 years
Friends with domestic terrorist.
In favor of gun control
AG called everyone "cowards"
Added 750 billion to the deficit in 30 days
Card Check
Amnesty for illegal aliens
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WTC BITCHES!
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
* Opposes same sex marriage
* Opposes stem cell research
* Supports banning flag burning
* SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
* Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
* Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
* Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: True Adonis is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
In that case, he's got my vote!
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Wait, you are wrong in what you posted about Jindal.
He does not support flag burning and he supports the open discussion of intelligent design as another idea other than evolution. He is not is support of halting evolution as a teaching topic. Please get your facts straight before posting partisan mistruths.
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Wait, you are wrong in what you posted about Jindal.
He does not support flag burning and he supports the open discussion of intelligent design as another idea other than evolution. He is not is support of halting evolution as a teaching topic. Please get your facts straight before posting partisan mistruths.
Reread what is posted. I think you miscomprehended a bit as what you are trying to state, is clearly pointed out in what is posted regarding Jindal.
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In that case, he's got my vote!
Was it fun to ride to short bus to school everyday?
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Maybe, but it would have to be a Capitalist country... Then again, I served my country and I am not willing to hand it over to liberal ass wads like you just yet....
You don't have a choice in the matter. It was taken from you. Liberals took the highest office and the majority of Congress along with it.
You have no say so.
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
- Opposes same sex marriage
As does MOST of America, including the current president, Barack Obama. What’s your point?
- Opposes stem cell research
Once again, it’s the classic liberal error of confusing opposition of EMBRYONIC stem cell research vs. other forms of stem cell research, which Jindal fully supports.
- Supports banning flag burning
He has respect for our flag. If you don’t, you’re free to pack your stuff and go elsewhere.
- SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
Boo-hoo, the evolutionists get their li'l feelings hurt.
- Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
And this is a problem because........
- Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
As long as it's voluntary on both ends, there's no problem here.
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
You obsess with that you DON'T BELIEVE to exist. And Jindal's the nutjob? ::)
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too much of the republican vote comes from its conservative/religious base and southern redneck types...i know he somehow got elected in louisiana(baffles me) but NO WAY these groups are going to come together around an Indian guy.
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The quote says "supports flag burning" and "SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS". It was liberalismo's quote.
He does not support flag burning and he doesn't want intelligent design only taught in schools. He supports an open discussion including intelligent design and evolution.
Also, from what I understand, he supports stem cell research but is against funding for embryonic stem cell research. (I disagree here as I am in favor of both).
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Let's look at Bobby Jindal:
- Opposes same sex marriage
- Opposes stem cell research
- Supports banning flag burning
- SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS
- Thinks a friend of his was possessed by a demon
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
- Supports teacher led prayer in public schools
http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Conclusion: Bobby Jindal is a CLASS A DUMBFUCK NUTJOB!!!
::) Obama:
- Claims he opposes same sex marriage
- Believes in that mythical Christian God
- Believes God is actually speaking to him and directing his life
- His 20-year spiritual advisor believes the government created AIDs in a lab to kill black people
- Opposes legalizing marijuana or any other drug
- By supporting the Freedom of Choice Act, favors abortion on demand, including trimester abortions
- Voted against banning partial birth abortion
- Opposed born-alive treatment law
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- Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions
- Endorsed Illinois handgun ban
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The quote says "supports flag burning" and "SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS". It was liberalismo's quote.
He does not support flag burning and he doesn't want intelligent design only taught in schools. He supports an open discussion including intelligent design and evolution.
Also, from what I understand, he supports stem cell research but is against funding for embryonic stem cell research. (I disagree here as I am in favor of both).
That's often the case with conservatives. But, some liberals pull this same foolishness on a regular basis, equating opposition to embryonic stem cell research as opposition to ALL stem cell research. The simple fact is that over 70 diseases/ailments have been treated or cured with non-embryonic stem cells. Usually, it's adult stem cells. But, they're using those from umbillical cords and there's even research done with cells from baby teeth (One guy who runs such a company would love to have that discussion to which you referenced earlier, as he is a Creationist ;D ).
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LOLOL Anyone watching the Republican Response that is a huge trainwreck?
As bad as it was,it was better then ANY speach Biden or Pelosi have EVER given.As odd as he looks,Pelosi looks even more strange.
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As bad as it was,it was better then ANY speach Biden or Pelosi have EVER given.As odd as he looks,Pelosi looks even more strange.
LMAO..
Check it out..
Big_mal: Man George Bush had some really bad speach gaffes
Other board member: yeah he sure messed up a lot of phrases
Billy Min: Yeah but _______ (insert democrat) had some moments even worse than Bush....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHa this guy is pathetic
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The quote says "supports flag burning" and "SUPPORTS TEACHING OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN SCHOOLS". It was liberalismo's quote.
He does not support flag burning and he doesn't want intelligent design only taught in schools. He supports an open discussion including intelligent design and evolution.
Also, from what I understand, he supports stem cell research but is against funding for embryonic stem cell research. (I disagree here as I am in favor of both).
The Quote says, "Supports BANNING Flag Burning" which is certainly a first amendment right and has taken shape in a few supreme court cases where the First amendment was upheld. Jindal would love to limit the First Amendment in this case as he supports Banning Flag Burning.
Some more info for you:
"Symbolic expression" is a phrase often used to describe expression that is mixed with elements of conduct. The Supreme Court has made clear in a series of cases that symbolic expression (or expressive conduct) may be protected by the First Amendment. Several of these cases have been highly controversial--perhaps none more so than Texas vs Johnson (1990) reversing the conviction of a man who expressed his strong displeasure with U. S. policy by burning an American flag.
It was a case involving the burning of another symbol, however, in which the Supreme Court announced the test it would use to analyze expressive conduct cases. Paul O'Brien's burning of his draft card led to his conviction for the "knowing destruction or mutilation" of a draft card. The Supreme Court, over only one dissent, affirmed O'Brien's conviction, but in so doing offered a test that would later be used to protect other protesters. Specifically, the Court said that a law regulating expressive conduct would be upheld only if it furthered an important governmental objective unrelated to the suppression of speech, was narrowly tailored to achieve the government's legitimate objective, and the law left open ample alternative means for expression. In O'Brien's case, the Court found the law to be narrowly tailored to its important objective of "smooth and efficient functioning of the selective service system." (Many commentators were critical of the Court's decision, arguing that the law was really an attempt to suppress a dramatic form of anti-war speech.)
Daniel Schact, who performed an anti-war skit at Houston's draft center while wearing a military uniform, had better luck in 1970 in reversing his conviction for wearing a military uniform in a production other than one that "does not tend to discredit that armed force." The Court found that the statute used to prosecute Schact made an impermissible content-based distinction and violated the First Amendment.
A few years later, Harold Spence, a young Seattle resident, was prosecuted under a state flag "improper use" law for hanging a flag in his apartment window with a peace symbol attached to it. The Court rejected the state's argument that promoting respect for the flag or preserving the flag as a symbol of the nation constituted important governmental interests unrelated to the suppression of speech, and reversed Spence's conviction.
Finally, the Court addressed the highly emotional issue of flag burning. In Texas vs Johnson, it reversed Gregory Johnson's conviction for burning an American flag during the 1984 Republican National Convention. The Court concluded that the flag burning was "speech" and again determined that the flag desecration statute was aimed at the communicative impact of Johnson's message. The Court noted, however, that speech-neutral laws, such as those applicable to public burning generally, might be constitutionally applied against flag burners. The next term the Court again confronted the flag burning issue, this time to consider the constitutionality of the Federal Flag Protection Act of 1989, passed by a Congress unhappy with the Court's decision in Johnson. The Court again ruled for the protester, a man who set fire to a flag on the steps of the U. S. Capitol, finding that the act was an attempt to suppress unpopular speech. The Court's decisions in the flag burning cases has led to numerous attempts to pass a constitutional amendment authorizing punishment of flag burning and mutilation, but so far the proposed amendment has fallen short of the two-thirds support necessary in the Senate.
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Obama has already dwarfed Bush in reckless spending.
Once he pushes AWB - then its on and protests will occur.
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Obama has already dwarfed Bush in reckless spending.
Once he pushes AWB - then its on and protests will occur.
Incredible isn't it? Like a runaway train. :-\
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As odd as he looks,Pelosi looks even more strange.
Pelosi isn't being touted as the future POTUS for her party either.
Unlike Jindull.
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Pelosi isn't being touted as the future POTUS for her party either.
Unlike Jindull.
You mean the multi millionaire wife of a scum bag that hire illegal aliens on the ranch?????
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The Quote says, "Supports BANNING Flag Burning" which is certainly a first amendment right and has taken shape in a few supreme court cases where the First amendment was upheld. Jindal would love to limit the First Amendment in this case as he supports Banning Flag Burning.
By that logic, you could argue that folks like Liberalismo would limit people’s 14th Amendment rights, when it comes to the marriage issue. In 1972, two gay guys tried to challenge the state of Minnesota law, defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman. This was fresh off the Loving v. Virginia case that ended the ban on marriage, involving whites and non-whites (i.e. blacks).
The Minnesota court, in the "Baker v. Nelson" cases ruled that Minnesota's definition of marriage DID NOT violate the 14th amendment, as the plaintiffs claimed. When those plantiffs appealed to the federal Supreme Court, the high Court dismissed their case for "want of a substantial federal question". When that happens, it means that the USSC effectively has ruled in favor of the lower court. And this ruling is binding on other lower courts.
http://www.kylewood.com/familylaw/baker.htm (http://www.kylewood.com/familylaw/baker.htm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_v._Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_v._Nelson)
In short, it is NOT unconstitutional, federally speaking, to define marriage only as a union between a man and a woman (1M-1W). The Defense of Marriage Act (passed by a lopsided margin in 1996 and signed by Bill Clinton) defines marriage federally as a 1M-1W union. It allows states to re-define marriage within its own borders BUT DOES NOT ALLOW one state to impose its definition onto others.
That's why Florida (especially with its recently-passed amendment) does not have to recognize gay "marriage" from Massachusetts or Connecticut.
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Sorry about that, didn't see "banning". Read it too quickly typing here and there at work.
The other two objections still stand.
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You mean the multi millionaire wife of a scum bag that hire illegal aliens on the ranch?????
No, I mean Pelosi isn't being touted and compared to winning office like the GOP nuthuggers are pushing Jindull so the comparision of the two are irrelevant.
Irrelevant. Like the whining and gnashing of teeth being done.
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I would vote for ANYONE over Obama.
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LMAO..
Check it out..
Big_mal: Man George Bush had some really bad speach gaffes
Other board member: yeah he sure messed up a lot of phrases
Billy Min: Yeah but _______ (insert democrat) had some moments even worse than Bush....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHa this guy is pathetic
The point my dense friend is,libs LOVE to point out the failure of others and ignore libs failures.You have a jackass on here who says Palin is a fool and Caroline Kennedy is a brilliant thinker.Then,when its PROVEN Kennedy is moron[YOU KNOW]he ignores it.Quayle spelled potato wrong and was killed for it for years,Biden says "JOBS IS A THREE LETTER WORD" no one in the media cares.Jindall looked odd,but Pelosi looked like a fucking retard sitting in back of Obama the other night with that silly stupid fake smile no one cares about Pelosi,its just Jindal.Typical libs.
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Pelosi isn't being touted as the future POTUS for her party either.
Unlike Jindull.
SHE IS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!!!!SHE WROTE THE STIMLOUS PACKAGE!!!!!SHE IS 100 TIMES MORE POWERFULL THEN JINDALL.
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The point my dense friend is,libs LOVE to point out the failure of others and ignore libs failures.You have a jackass on here who says Palin is a fool and Caroline Kennedy is a brilliant thinker.Then,when its PROVEN Kennedy is moron[YOU KNOW]he ignores it.Quayle spelled potato wrong and was killed for it for years,Biden says "JOBS IS A THREE LETTER WORD" no one in the media cares.Jindall looked odd,but Pelosi looked like a fucking retard sitting in back of Obama the other night with that silly stupid fake smile no one cares about Pelosi,its just Jindal.Typical libs.
first off..meltdown
second off...Pelosi has the Botox going on...she is incapable of showing true emotions...
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Anyone have a picture of Pelosi when she was younger? I don't think she is that bad looking.
Her policies are f'n horrible though.
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Anyone have a picture of Pelosi when she was younger? I don't think she is that bad looking.
Her policies are f'n horrible though.
both spoken for truth
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both spoken for truth
I guess you guys are into the granny thing?
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I guess you guys are into the granny thing?
what is that..I think she looks funny now post botox...maybe fine back in the day though...
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hahaha. No, I am just trying to imagine her younger and I like Italian chicks. I've dated quite a few.
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hahaha. No, I am just trying to imagine her younger and I like Italian chicks. I've dated quite a few.
Dude, Italian and Jewish chicks are a real pain in the ass.
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Dude, Italian and Jewish chicks are a real pain in the ass.
Monica Bellucci Boom
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Never dated a Jewish girl but I hear many are high maintenance.
Spanish girls are hot too but many of em get that attitude and yell a lot. I can't f'n stand it. I dated one yrs ago...had a great ass.
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Never dated a Jewish girl but I hear many are high maintenance.
Spanish girls are hot too but many of em get that attitude and yell a lot. I can't f'n stand it. I dated one yrs ago...had a great ass.
My buddy married a girl from Venezuela and he has been happy as shit for five years now.
1. She puts out like crazy
2. She is very humble.
3. She is satisfied with very little materially.
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the reason Obama is still getting decent approval ratings even after spending near 2 trillion in less than 2 months, money that does not really exist. Is that the money is being spent here in America. For decades now Americans have been begging for money to be spent here rather than abroad.
Obama says that he is going to pay for all of this by means of taxing the rich. The sad news folks and here it is. The real fact is he is going to tax everyone till we bleed. The rich in this country do not have enough money to pay for what he is doing. The numbers simply do not add up, even if obama was to tax the wealthy 100% of their incomes there simply is not enough.
He is using the American people, playing on their heart strings and lying right to their faces. The rich are going to get taxed,sure..........they will also put more money into tax shelters to get out of it, they have lawyers they are not stupid. The real burden will come from each and everyone of us (that is employed).
Socialism is a failed ideology that will never work. Democratic or not, it is a bad deal.
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the reason Obama is still getting decent approval ratings even after spending near 2 trillion in less than 2 months, money that does not really exist. Is that the money is being spent here in America. For decades now Americans have been begging for money to be spent here rather than abroad.
Obama says that he is going to pay for all of this by means of taxing the rich. The sad news folks and here it is. The real fact is he is going to tax everyone till we bleed. The rich in this country do not have enough money to pay for what he is doing. The numbers simply do not add up, even if obama was to tax the wealthy 100% of their incomes there simply is not enough.
He is using the American people, playing on their heart strings and lying right to their faces. The rich are going to get taxed,sure..........they will also put more money into tax shelters to get out of it, they have lawyers they are not stupid. The real burden will come from each and everyone of us (that is employed).
Socialism is a failed ideology that will never work. Democratic or not, it is a bad deal.
ThaT'S 1000% CORRECT.
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That's often the case with conservatives. But, some liberals pull this same foolishness on a regular basis, equating opposition to embryonic stem cell research as opposition to ALL stem cell research. The simple fact is that over 70 diseases/ailments have been treated or cured with non-embryonic stem cells. Usually, it's adult stem cells. But, they're using those from umbillical cords and there's even research done with cells from baby teeth (One guy who runs such a company would love to have that discussion to which you referenced earlier, as he is a Creationist ;D ).
Real scientists know that embryonic stem cells are absolutely necessary for future cures for diseases. 70 diseases treated with non-embryonic stem cells? The number sounds very conflated, but it doesn't even reach the potential number of cures for major diseases possible with embryonic stem cells. Certain attributes must be met for proper study and only embryonic stem-cells have those attributes. This is in simple terms since I know your eyes would glaze over if I tried to discuss the real science behind it.
BTW...Who are you to talk about abortion or embryonic stemcells? You've said that you would bash a 2 year old girls head in if God told you to.
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Stem cells is the next frontier of medicine IMO but unless big pharma can make some profit from them, it will not be pushed hard enough soon enough.
Eric, I also agree with what you wrote. The #s absolutely do not add up. Obama has set up budget deficits over the next 10 yrs, how completely irresponsible. I saw a graph were the budget deficit is proposed to improve some by the end of his term but then increase. How does he justify 10 yrs more of deficit spending. Appauling. Obama is drastically changing this country and using more money we don't have. I see inflation coming. It may be higher taxes on FAMILIES making 250K+ now but they will bake other taxes in to try to offset some of the excessive spending, they have no choice, the interest on debt will be too high.
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Real scientists know that embryonic stem cells are absolutely necessary for future cures for diseases. 70 diseases treated with non-embryonic stem cells? The number sounds very conflated, but it doesn't even reach the potential number of cures for major diseases possible with embryonic stem cells. Certain attributes must be met for proper study and only embryonic stem-cells have those attributes. This is in simple terms since I know your eyes would glaze over if I tried to discuss the real science behind it.
BTW...Who are you to talk about abortion or embryonic stemcells? You've said that you would bash a 2 year old girls head in if God told you to.
“Potential” don’t pay the rent or buy the groceries, as they say. The 2008 Lions had the “potential” to win the Super Bowl; they went 0-16!
Those numbers are anything but conflated; they are real, as in real diseases, as in 70+ diseases/ailments treated by other forms of stem cell research (which, BTW is 70+ MORE than what’s been cure by embryonic stem cell research).
Those being:
In what treatments have adult stem cells been utilized?
(The following list can be found by going to the Do No Harm: The Coalition of Americans for Research Ethics website)
Cancers
1. Brain Cancer
2. Retinoblastoma
3. Ovarian Cancer
4. Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
5. Testicular Cancer
6. Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
7. Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
8. Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
9. Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
10. Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
11. Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
12. Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
13. Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
14. Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
15. Multiple Myeloma
16. Myelodysplasia
17. Breast Cancer
18. Neuroblastoma
19. Renal Cell Carcinoma
20. Various Solid Tumors
21. Soft Tissue Sarcoma
22. Ewing’s Sarcoma
23. Waldenstrom’s macroglobulinemia
24. Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
25. POEMS syndrome
26. Myelofibrosis
Auto-Immune Diseases
27. Systemic Lupus
28. Sjogren’s Syndrome
29. Myasthenia
30. Autoimmune Cytopenia
31. Scleromyxedema
32. Scleroderma
33. Crohn’s Disease
34. Behcet’s Disease
35. Rheumatoid Arthritis
36. Juvenile Arthritis
37. Multiple Sclerosis
38. Polychondritis
39. Systemic Vasculitis
40. Alopecia Universalis
41. Buerger’s Disease
Cardiovascular
42. Acute Heart Damage
43. Chronic Coronary Artery Disease
Ocular
44. Corneal regeneration
Immunodeficiencies
45. Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
46. X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
47. X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome
Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries
48. Parkinson’s Disease
49. Spinal Cord Injury
50. Stroke Damage
Anemias and Other Blood Conditions
51. Sickle Cell Anemia
52. Sideroblastic Anemia
53. Aplastic Anemia
54. Red Cell Aplasia
55. Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
56. Thalassemia
57. Primary Amyloidosis
58. Diamond Blackfan Anemia
59. Fanconi’s Anemia
60. Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection
Wounds and Injuries
61. Limb Gangrene
62. Surface Wound Healing
63. Jawbone Replacement
64. Skull Bone Repair
Other Metabolic Disorders
65. Hurler’s Syndrome
66. Osteogenesis Imperfecta
67. Krabbe Leukodystrophy
68. Osteopetrosis
69. Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy
Liver Disease
70. Chronic Liver Failure
71. Liver Cirrhosis
Bladder Disease
72. End-Stage Bladder Disease
(courtesy of Dr. Robin Crossman, founder of Babytooth Technologies).
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth)
The score: Other stem cells - 72; embryonic stem cell - ZERO
Exactly how is embryonic stem cell research "absolutely necessary for future cures for diseases", when it ain't even necessary for CURRENT cures?
The simple fact is that you are DEAD WRONG in claiming that folks like Bobby Jindal oppose stem cell research. He does not, UNLESS it's the embryonic kind. To top it all off, when someone posted a CNN report of an HIV-positive patient being treated with stem cells, I believe it was YOU that started yapping about embryonic stem cells, conveniently ignoring the fact that the article CLEARLY stated that ADULT STEM CELLS were used in the treatment (Edit: I take that back; that was 240, asking if people would support stem cell research, if it would cure HIV/AIDS. It was Loco who reminded him about the adult cells being used).
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Make that 73-0!!!
Bladder Disease
73. End-Stage Bladder Disease
(This is from the actual “Do No Harm” site; so AIG will need to update that list ;D ).
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Stem cells is the next frontier of medicine IMO but unless big pharma can make some profit from them, it will not be pushed hard enough soon enough.
Can you blame them? As the saying goes, “If it don’t make $$$$$, it don’t make sense.” Big pharmaceutical companies aren’t going to pump the green into something that, to this day, HASN’T CURED ONE SINGLE DISEASE, which is why the left keeps begging the government to fund it.
Would you fund something with an 0-73 track record?
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Can you blame them? As the saying goes, “If it don’t make $$$$$, it don’t make sense.” Big pharmaceutical companies aren’t going to pump the green into something that, to this day, HASN’T CURED ONE SINGLE DISEASE, which is why the left keeps begging the government to fund it.
Would you fund something with an 0-73 track record?
Making money and paying overhead does not register with liberals since most dont pay taxes or have to live with the consequences of their insanity.
Its for the children right?
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Making money and paying overhead does not register with liberals since most dont pay taxes or have to live with the consequences of their insanity.
Its for the children right?
What better way to help the children than to waste money on stem cell research that (if you count the HIV treatment from that CNN article, which I don’t think is on the ‘Do No Harm’ list) is now 0-74?
Of course, they blame conservatives for "holding back science", conveniently forgetting that other countries whose governments have funded embryonic SCR have come up with SQUAT, to show for it. If it has cured or treated any diseases or ailments, we'd know it by now (because, they'd be screaming to the heavens about it).
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You want me to listen to this racist asshole? No thhanks.
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He is a lone voice in this.
Go read Bloomberg, CNBC, WSJ, etc.
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He is a lone voice in this.
Go read Bloomberg, CNBC, WSJ, etc.
Myth.
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Myth.
Deal with facts blonde boy.
Go read Bloomberg.com and the analysis tjhey have.
Fazio is a joke.
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“Potential” don’t pay the rent or buy the groceries, as they say. The 2008 Lions had the “potential” to win the Super Bowl; they went 0-16!
Those numbers are anything but conflated; they are real, as in real diseases, as in 70+ diseases/ailments treated by other forms of stem cell research (which, BTW is 70+ MORE than what’s been cure by embryonic stem cell research).
Those being:
In what treatments have adult stem cells been utilized?
(The following list can be found by going to the Do No Harm: The Coalition of Americans for Research Ethics website)
Cancers
1. Brain Cancer
2. Retinoblastoma
3. Ovarian Cancer
4. Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
5. Testicular Cancer
6. Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
7. Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
8. Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
9. Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
10. Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
11. Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
12. Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
13. Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
14. Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
15. Multiple Myeloma
16. Myelodysplasia
17. Breast Cancer
18. Neuroblastoma
19. Renal Cell Carcinoma
20. Various Solid Tumors
21. Soft Tissue Sarcoma
22. Ewing’s Sarcoma
23. Waldenstrom’s macroglobulinemia
24. Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
25. POEMS syndrome
26. Myelofibrosis
Auto-Immune Diseases
27. Systemic Lupus
28. Sjogren’s Syndrome
29. Myasthenia
30. Autoimmune Cytopenia
31. Scleromyxedema
32. Scleroderma
33. Crohn’s Disease
34. Behcet’s Disease
35. Rheumatoid Arthritis
36. Juvenile Arthritis
37. Multiple Sclerosis
38. Polychondritis
39. Systemic Vasculitis
40. Alopecia Universalis
41. Buerger’s Disease
Cardiovascular
42. Acute Heart Damage
43. Chronic Coronary Artery Disease
Ocular
44. Corneal regeneration
Immunodeficiencies
45. Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
46. X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
47. X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome
Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries
48. Parkinson’s Disease
49. Spinal Cord Injury
50. Stroke Damage
Anemias and Other Blood Conditions
51. Sickle Cell Anemia
52. Sideroblastic Anemia
53. Aplastic Anemia
54. Red Cell Aplasia
55. Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
56. Thalassemia
57. Primary Amyloidosis
58. Diamond Blackfan Anemia
59. Fanconi’s Anemia
60. Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection
Wounds and Injuries
61. Limb Gangrene
62. Surface Wound Healing
63. Jawbone Replacement
64. Skull Bone Repair
Other Metabolic Disorders
65. Hurler’s Syndrome
66. Osteogenesis Imperfecta
67. Krabbe Leukodystrophy
68. Osteopetrosis
69. Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy
Liver Disease
70. Chronic Liver Failure
71. Liver Cirrhosis
Bladder Disease
72. End-Stage Bladder Disease
(courtesy of Dr. Robin Crossman, founder of Babytooth Technologies).
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n1/babytooth)
The score: Other stem cells - 72; embryonic stem cell - ZERO
Exactly how is embryonic stem cell research "absolutely necessary for future cures for diseases", when it ain't even necessary for CURRENT cures?
The simple fact is that you are DEAD WRONG in claiming that folks like Bobby Jindal oppose stem cell research. He does not, UNLESS it's the embryonic kind. To top it all off, when someone posted a CNN report of an HIV-positive patient being treated with stem cells, I believe it was YOU that started yapping about embryonic stem cells, conveniently ignoring the fact that the article CLEARLY stated that ADULT STEM CELLS were used in the treatment (Edit: I take that back; that was 240, asking if people would support stem cell research, if it would cure HIV/AIDS. It was Loco who reminded him about the adult cells being used).
I'm Sorry, I don't take anyone seriously who posts medical information from a bible website.
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Socialism in a nutshell. Place 10 people in a room, give each of them one dollar. Leave the room for two days, come back. Find out that one of the people has 7 dollars.
Government can place its rule onto people, increase the tax burden like a massive blanket over them, overwhelm them. The majority will roll over. Some will always find a way to get what they want by cheating others.
Socialism in theory sounds warm and cozy...........every one gets the same serving of pie. Everyone gets a home, a job, a car, medical care, food, clothing, etc,etc. This sounds great it really does. What it does however is place restrictions on the ambitiously motivated individuals whom wish to create and build empire's. Free markets allow people to become more than lemming leading normal drudging lives. Free markets create jobs for millions. Free markets allow for innovative technologies to come about. When government regulates wages and takes incentives away from individuals right to prosper, it then strangles productive growth and advancement in a society.
Hitler had a way around this however, he tried inslaved smart Jews to do his research. I have several friends who all came from socialist run countries to America. They all say the same thing. That we are in a peaceful revolution. They are saddened to see socialism comming to America, they have seen it, worked under it, lived under it. They know whats comming and they fear for our prosperity.
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Socialism in a nutshell. Place 10 people in a room, give each of them one dollar. Leave the room for two days, come back. Find out that one of the people has 7 dollars.
Government can place its rule onto people, increase the tax burden like a massive blanket over them, overwhelm them. The majority will roll over. Some will always find a way to get what they want by cheating others.
Socialism in theory sounds warm and cozy...........every one gets the same serving of pie. Everyone gets a home, a job, a car, medical care, food, clothing, etc,etc. This sounds great it really does. What it does however is place restrictions on the ambitiously motivated individuals whom wish to create and build empire's. Free markets allow people to become more than lemming leading normal drudging lives. Free markets create jobs for millions. Free markets allow for innovative technologies to come about. When government regulates wages and takes incentives away from individuals right to prosper, it then strangles productive growth and advancement in a society.
Hitler had a way around this however, he tried inslaved smart Jews to do his research. I have several friends who all came from socialist run countries to America. They all say the same thing. That we are in a peaceful revolution. They are saddened to see socialism comming to America, they have seen it, worked under it, lived under it. They know whats comming and they fear for our prosperity.
(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)
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Benny-
Typical response from a socialist. Don't come up with an actual rebuttal. Just post a funny picture in attempt to deflate something you cannot argue.
What's next a catchy bumper sticker?
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I'm Sorry, I don't take anyone seriously who posts medical information from a bible website.
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The link to the “Do No Harm” site is part of that particular interview with Dr. Crossman, the founder of BabyTooth Technologies, which is a stem cell research company.
Of course, this response of yours is a mere excuse to shy away from the facts, namely:
1) Your claim about Gov. Jindal’s not supporting stem cell research was patently FALSE.
2) Adult stem cell research have treated or cured over 70 diseases/ailments
(http://stemcellresearch.org/images/thescore_73-0.jpg)
(74, if you count the HIV case from England, mentioned in that CNN interview).
3) Embryonic stem cell research (the only type Jindal doesn’t support) has cured, to date, NOTHING!!
But, just to give you one less excuse.......
http://stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm (http://stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm)
http://stemcellresearch.org/index.html (http://stemcellresearch.org/index.html)
Where's The Stem Celebration?
Confirming the work first reported last November by researcher Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University and James Thompson at the University of Wisconsin, researchers at UCLA also have managed to coax the human skin cells back in time to a point in their development before they had committed to becoming a particular type of tissue. The reprogrammed cells, known as "induced pluripotent stem cells," genetically matched to the donor, can be used to grow tissues for future use in tissue replacement therapies, including a range of things from regeneration of damaged heart tissue to Parkinson's to spinal-cord injury.
The discovery potentially provides a virtually unlimited supply of embryonic stem cells without the moral baggage of or need to use human embryos, cloning or human eggs. It also takes such research out of the political arena back into the realm of science where it belongs. "Our reprogrammed human skin cells were virtually undistinguishable from human embryonic stem cells," said Kethrin Plathm, assistant professor of biological chemistry and lead author of the study. "Our findings are an important step towards manipulating differentiated human cells to generate an unlimited supply of patient specific pluripotent stem cells"
"Reprogramming normal human stem cells into cells with identical properties to those in embryonic stem cells . . . may have important therapeutic ramifications and provide us with another valuable method to develop human stem cell lines," says William Lowry, an assistant professor of molecular, cell and developmental biology, and co-author of the study that appeared Feb. 11 in the online edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of the Sciences..........
You'd think this astonishing accomplishment by three separate research teams would warrant a Newsweek cover or a congratulatory press release from John Edwards, who in 2004 said if John Kerry was elected president people would rise out of their wheelchairs and walk again.
But the passion for embryonic stem cell research is driven by ideology, not science. When Bush put limits on federal funding of ESCR, he was called a "moral ayatollah" by Sen. Thomas Harkin. Never mind that he was right that non-embryonic research was more promising.........
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=288315612235167 (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=288315612235167)