was not the best body builder on the planet due to his drummer waist, a biceps tear, atrophying quad muscle, NO vascularity in the upper body, heaps of wrinkles and folds.
Didn't Ron warn you about spamming to board? this was already posted
i wish all Bbers were so responsive with fan letters
Nasser actually knows what's going on.
Most pro bodybuilders don't even know how to speak let alone articulate responses about politics.
Coleman is good with fan mail.
How is this spam?Dorian = multiple O winner
You have spammed Dorian Yates more than I have Nasser.
Besides, this is actually interesting, not just the same 100x recycled and repeated arguments between you and Hulkster that no one else even bothers to read.
Nasser actually knows what's going on.
Most pro bodybuilders don't even know how to speak let alone articulate responses about politics.
True. I agree with many of the things he said. Bbing however is not a sport, and bbers are not athletes. Also, golf is not mainstream due to huge prize money/payouts....it's just that more folks can relate to golfing as opposed to abusing drugs and flexing for a crowd of schmoes.
True. I agree with many of the things he said. Bbing however is not a sport, and bbers are not athletes. Also, golf is not mainstream due to huge prize money/payouts....it's just that more folks can relate to golfing as opposed to abusing drugs and flexing for a crowd of schmoes.
#3 and #4 contradict themselves. He claims he made a million off weider alone then goes on to say he wouldnt get in to the sport because there is no money in it. Question #2- excuses are peoples way of accepting failure, take some fucking accountability and admit you just werent good enoughTeam 300lbs with flabs
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#3 and #4 contradict themselves. He claims he made a million off weider alone then goes on to say he wouldnt get in to the sport because there is no money in it. Question #2- excuses are peoples way of accepting failure, take some fucking accountability and admit you just werent good enough
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I'm tired of all this shit about Nasser being a "loser" bla bla bla
The man is independent, he has MILLIONS, he invested his money well instead of being a drug addict.
And all that shit about he being abusive is total crap, you guys know how women are - Snakes.
His wife CHEATED ON HIM while he was gone.. ofcourse she felt guilty and called the cops because she was afraid of his reaction.
Women can get away with everything and don't tell that's bullshit..I know everyone here have some kind of story to tell about the evilness of women.
If he did abuse her, why did she come to the hospital (reference: the picture above) and cried to take her back?
Just use your brain people...
Am not defending him, just think for once instead of bashing him all the time..
Ofcourse he used oil in the end of his career..but ho cares he was one of the greatest BBs..
There is no money in the sport, I agree.. it's sad..the company's uses their dumb addicted "athletes"..
Not even near a meltdown "Will Grant".A double even
You know it is very clear that there are a great many posters and guests etc who really want to read what Nasser has to say. This thread is not hijacking anything so really, there is no excuse for moronic, trash types like "Will Grant" to try to sabotage the thread with his childish and pathetic loser behaviour. If he wasn't so infantile and clearly poor, out of work, single, suffering gay thoughts then maybe his material would not be quite so terrible.Real men like yourself that bash woman and fuk goats?? yeah right ..your time is up you smelly little kebab looking shit stain. ;D
Will Grant, stay away and don't ruin it for real men.
Real men like yourself that bash woman and fuk goats?? yeah right ..your time is up you smelly little kebab looking shit stain. ;D
How is this spam?
You have spammed Dorian Yates more than I have Nasser.
Besides, this is actually interesting[/b], not just the same 100x recycled and repeated arguments between you and Hulkster that no one else even bothers to read.
Very insightful and extremely well spoken. I really wish Nasser would write a monthly article in a mag or something.
So do I but nasser does not work 'under' people and is enjoying a comfortable retirement. He is going to publish a book though and that will be an amazing read!!
Speak for yourself, BigKnobs
Lots of new gimmicks in this thread.
#3 and #4 contradict themselves. He claims he made a million off weider alone then goes on to say he wouldnt get in to the sport because there is no money in it. Question #2- excuses are peoples way of accepting failure, take some fucking accountability and admit you just werent good enough
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bump for the rest of the answers
All hail the Wizard of Billionaires
No one claims he is a billionnaire, but he is decently well off, considering he doesn't need to work, has an above average home, nice vehicle, money in the bank, enough to spend on going out often, travelling, etc.
He said he won't be answering the other five unfortunately, he found the majority of replies too immature yet he did recognize that some were proper.thats too bad, was looking forward to reading what he had to say
NO kidding he's not a billionaire and no kidding anyone doesn't claim him to be , then again it would fit right into your delusional behavior , 3 x at least Mr Olympia LMFAO you could cry and bitch and moan about 1997 I'll give you that , but at no other time was he close
And No kidding he is a millionnaire and is well off while people all over the world know about him.
How do you know? because he says so? he also claims everyone in professional bodybuilding takes synthol yet he doesn't ::) his word can't be trusted obviously he plays the roll of Mr Nice Guy then stabs all of his friends in the back so that makes him phony
Epic jealousy, so you think he has some type of secret job that he hid from me and hides from everyone yet claims to be retired and financially independent lmao?
He meant every pro has used oil, whether synthol or escecline. He admitted to using the latter.
He hasn't stabbed a single "friend" as none of the people he spoke out against were his "friends." Just because they were in the same industry and had to deal with each other does not automatically make them all friends. Do you consider every coworker of yours to be a friend?
LMFAO at ' epic jealousy ' stop projecting your fantasies on everyone else , the last person I would be jealous about is Nasser , I mean get serious lol maybe you envy him and wish to carbon copy your life after his the rest of us live our own lives and it doesn't include it via living vicariously through our idols
again how do you know he's a millionaire? because he told you so lol if that's all you need more power to you in the end a man is only as good as his word and he's backstabbed many a ' friend ' which means he's phony and I recall him specifically stating every pro takes synthol yet he's the only won who doesn't ::)
again how do you know he's a millionaire?
If you get to know someone, see their lifestyle and understand their circumstances you can tell when one is a millionnaire, that is if you can get past the jealousy which obviously you can't. If not for jealousy than what other reason is there for you to desperately try to deny Nasser's financial status? If I knew of any retired pro bodybuilder who made some millions during their career and now has a decent lifestyle without working I would give benefit of the doubt that they are worth a few million. In Nasser's case it is also easier for me to believe because I know him pretty well and have stayed at his place for a while and seen how he lives.
And like I said earlier, none of the people he talked negatively about in his interview were his "friends."
Again stop projecting YOUR jealousy on me , I don't care if he is or NOT I asked how do you know? a question you still haven't answered , a person can have lots of nice things if they have the credit and not be rich , hell half of America lives this way . he may have the lifestyle YOU dream of don't presume to speak for the rest of us
and nonsense he was very close friends with Milos and he backstabbed him and that's one example
ND your trying to argue with a true believer. In another post he claims Nasser has one of the highest IQ's in the world. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He's the worlds strongest and most handsome millionare with one of the highest IQ's in the world. He's also a green beret, an astronaut, discovered the theory of relativity 20 years before Einstein and beat Chuck Lidell in a street brawl even though Lidell gave him a cheap shot.
He also never beat up his girlfriend, used synthol or had a pimple in his entire life. I think Bob's is like a downe syndrome case from some fundamentalist Islamic charity- Like the terrorist make a wish foundation. To get a tax break Nasser lets him sniff his used underwear for free and post bogus pics and information on the internet.
Jealousy is the only reason I can think of as to why you desperately try to deny Nasser's financial status when evidence is provided to the contrary. Have you heard anyone retiring off of credit LMFAO what creditor would lend so much to a man without any external source of income ::) Why even work then if anyone can simply retire and live off of credit lol!
I already answered how I know he's worth at least a few million. I did not give every specific detail fo what I know but the evidence I did give should be enough for non-jealous people to be convinced.
He had not talked to Milos for ages before the bb.com interview. Yes, they used to be friends long time ago, but Milos backstabbed Nasser first by stealing his money, and eventually Nasser disclosed that in his interview, however they were not friends when he spoke negatively about Milos. Thanks for playing :)
ND your trying to argue with a true believer. In another post he claims Nasser has one of the highest IQ's in the world. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
He's the worlds strongest and most handsome millionare with one of the highest IQ's in the world. He's also a green beret, an astronaut, discovered the theory of relativity 20 years before Einstein and beat Chuck Lidell in a street brawl even though Lidell gave him a cheap shot.
He also never beat up his girlfriend, used synthol or had a pimple in his entire life. I think Bob's is like a downe syndrome case from some fundamentalist Islamic charity- Like the terrorist make a wish foundation. To get a tax break Nasser lets him sniff his used underwear for free and post bogus pics and information on the internet.
I laugh out loud when I read that lol one of the highest IQ's in the world lol I'm not arguing with him , just like Hulkster I'm correcting him.
I've asked him 3 times (in two different threads) to provide a reference for his Highest IQ in the world list he is referring to and to pinpoint nasser being at near the top of it.
x3 times at least unanswered question
How is is desperate to ' deny ' his financial status? first of all and second of all I asked you how do you know? a question you didn't really answer at the end of the day YOU don't know you're just assuming and we all know what they say about that ;) and what ' evidence ' have you provided? where is it?
And who said anything about anyone retiring on credit? I didn't , I said there can be many reasons he looks like he's wealthy and doesn't mean he is pay attention , he could have a trust fund , he could be living off of family , he could be making a good living off of his website selling his used items lol in the end you DO NOT know if he's a millionaire you're assuming he is
Again you said he never backstabbed his friends that's simply NOT true Milos is the perfect example as well as Kovacs , they had more than a casual friendship and he backstabbed them both regardless of what you believe so much for your assessment ;)
in the end you're reduced to bragging about his lifestyle by proxy lol let's entertain that he is a millionaire that means what? everyone has to be jealous of him? why stop there? I would rather be jealous of a billionaire than him , that's just a case of YOU being impressed with his lifestyle and projecting it on the rest of us which is once again very presumptuous
Again he was to portray himself as Mr Nice Guy , Mr humble , it was all a facade he threw a lot of people under the bus which proves he was phony in the end , I look for more than that in people I admire maybe you don't ;)
I've asked him 3 times (in two different threads) to provide a reference for his Highest IQ in the world list he is referring to and to pinpoint nasser being at near the top of it.
x3 times at least unanswered question
I've explained his lifestyle, coupled with the fact that he does not work or have external income. To still try to claim that he could be living off of credit (like I asked earlier who would extend that much credit to someone with no external income?) or getting handouts from his parents is in fact "desperate." :) I answered "how I know" sufficient for non-jealous and non-desperate types, apparently that does not include you :-\ As for myself I have seen documentary evidence of him being a millionnaire, however that's personal so I won't disclose all the details, but even if I had not seen it I would be convinced since I give benefit of the doubt and look for the most reasonable conclusion, not desperate and reaching ones like "credit" or "living off of parents" lol.
Like I said, he was not friends with Milos when he talked negatively about him. He also had a falling out with Kovacs years ago, which will be explained in the upcoming book. If someone wrongs you, you're no longer friends and it's no longer back-stabbing. From my own friendship with Nasser I can confidently conclude that he is one of the most loyal (if not the most loyal) people I've ever met.
I would like to believe that you are not jealous but your replies suggest otherwise.
lol, he's a very intelligent guy. There is no "reference" to his ranking in having the highest IQ in the world - that was obviously an exaggeration to get under some peoples' skin which you and "George Whorewell" obviously were not smart enough to know, probably because you have a much lower IQ than Nasser ;)
I think your falling back on the "benefit of the doubt" argument a bit too much. Trust but Verify. You don't know his income/expenditures. How do you know he doesn't have tons of bills? Living beyond one's means is common in America. Friend of mine is stuck paying 30 years worth of bills for an undergraduate degree. You don't know that Nasser is a millionaire, and what defines it? The objects he owns? Or the objects he's paying bills on? Can you tell a difference, no. Just because he is keeping up with the jones's doesn't mean he is actually wealthy. Reminds me of when I was at a party with some rockefeller decendents a while back, my teacher friend invited me because he was invited since he taught one of their children. Someone came in driving a brand new jag, one of the older rockefeller ladies chuckled and said "look at them, the new rich". When your really rich, you don't have to flaunt it, everybody already knows it.
I think your falling back on the "benefit of the doubt" argument a bit too much. Trust but Verify. You don't know his income/expenditures. How do you know he doesn't have tons of bills? Living beyond one's means is common in America. Friend of mine is stuck paying 30 years worth of bills for an undergraduate degree. You don't know that Nasser is a millionaire, and what defines it? The objects he owns? Or the objects he's paying bills on? Can you tell a difference, no. Just because he is keeping up with the jones's doesn't mean he is actually wealthy. Reminds me of when I was at a party with some rockefeller decendents a while back, my teacher friend invited me because he was invited since he taught one of their children. Someone came in driving a brand new jag, one of the older rockefeller ladies chuckled and said "look at them, the new rich". When your really rich, you don't have to flaunt it, everybody already knows it.LOL. Monster Ronald Reagan reference. RR didn't trust the Ruuuskies, and he damn sure wouldn't take bobs' word for it.
I've explained his lifestyle, coupled with the fact that he does not work or have external income. To still try to claim that he could be living off of credit (like I asked earlier who would extend that much credit to someone with no external income?) or getting handouts from his parents is in fact "desperate." :) I answered "how I know" sufficient for non-jealous and non-desperate types, apparently that does not include you :-\ As for myself I have seen documentary evidence of him being a millionnaire, however that's personal so I won't disclose all the details, but even if I had not seen it I would be convinced since I give benefit of the doubt and look for the most reasonable conclusion, not desperate and reaching ones like "credit" or "living off of parents" lol.
Like I said, he was not friends with Milos when he talked negatively about him. He also had a falling out with Kovacs years ago, which will be explained in the upcoming book. If someone wrongs you, you're no longer friends and it's no longer back-stabbing. From my own friendship with Nasser I can confidently conclude that he is one of the most loyal (if not the most loyal) people I've ever met.
I would like to believe that you are not jealous but your replies suggest otherwise.
I've explained his lifestyle, coupled with the fact that he does not work or have external income. To still try to claim that he could be living off of credit (like I asked earlier who would extend that much credit to someone with no external income?) or getting handouts from his parents is in fact "desperate." :) I answered "how I know" sufficient for non-jealous and non-desperate types, apparently that does not include you :-\ As for myself I have seen documentary evidence of him being a millionnaire, however that's personal so I won't disclose all the details, but even if I had not seen it I would be convinced since I give benefit of the doubt and look for the most reasonable conclusion, not desperate and reaching ones like "credit" or "living off of parents" lol.
Like I said, he was not friends with Milos when he talked negatively about him. He also had a falling out with Kovacs years ago, which will be explained in the upcoming book. If someone wrongs you, you're no longer friends and it's no longer back-stabbing. From my own friendship with Nasser I can confidently conclude that he is one of the most loyal (if not the most loyal) people I've ever met.
I would like to believe that you are not jealous but your replies suggest otherwise.
LOL. Monster Ronald Reagan reference. RR didn't trust the Ruuuskies, and he damn sure wouldn't take bobs' word for it.
Again how do you know he has NO external income? clearly this is NOT true when he's selling items via his website , so wrong again ;)
again I never claimed he was living off of credit that was YOU response which you enjoyed responding to please show me where I ever claimed he retired on credit and good luck you'll need it . and that's for admitting you don't have a clue on how he's wealthy that's all I wanted to hear ;) and more personal attacks when posed with questions , shows your frustration level
I think your falling back on the "benefit of the doubt" argument a bit too much. Trust but Verify. You don't know his income/expenditures. How do you know he doesn't have tons of bills? Living beyond one's means is common in America. Friend of mine is stuck paying 30 years worth of bills for an undergraduate degree. You don't know that Nasser is a millionaire, and what defines it? The objects he owns? Or the objects he's paying bills on? Can you tell a difference, no. Just because he is keeping up with the jones's doesn't mean he is actually wealthy. Reminds me of when I was at a party with some rockefeller decendents a while back, my teacher friend invited me because he was invited since he taught one of their children. Someone came in driving a brand new jag, one of the older rockefeller ladies chuckled and said "look at them, the new rich". When your really rich, you don't have to flaunt it, everybody already knows it.
Great post . he doesn't know if he's a millionaire that's my whole point and anyone who questions him is obviously jealous lol such a lame retort if I were going to be jealous of any human it wouldn't be him
it reminds me of when I was a kid I worked at a car wash on the weekends and this guy used to come in driving a Ford ranger pick-up , dressed like he shopped at Sears , nice polite and humble guy ...anyway after he left with the guy behind us says " You'd never know " I say " Know what? " he says " That guy is worth $30 million dollars " and this was in the 1980s
I meant no material external income. His website has not been updated for a long time and the merchandise sales are not nearly enough to support his lifestyle - I know approx. how much he earns from there.
No personal attacks, I actually think you're one of the smarter people here which is why I'm surprised that you keep reaching. Like I said, I want to believe that you're not jealous but your posts suggest otherwise. I don't know exactly how wealthy he is but I do know for a fact that he is worth at least a few million ;) ...and that's above the minimum to be classified a millionnaire.
I meant no material external income. His website has not been updated for a long time and the merchandise sales are not nearly enough to support his lifestyle - I know approx. how much he earns from there.
No personal attacks, I actually think you're one of the smarter people here which is why I'm surprised that you keep reaching. Like I said, I want to believe that you're not jealous but your posts suggest otherwise. I don't know exactly how wealthy he is but I do know for a fact that he is worth at least a few million ;) ...and that's above the minimum to be classified a millionnaire.
Unless you're his accountant how would you know? hey wait you are an account lol anyway in the end YOU don't know if he's a millionaire you just believe him when he says he is
Sure everything is personal with you when someone disagrees , they're desperate and jealous ::) and thanks for admitting YOU don't know if he's a millionaire that's all I asked ;)
You obviously haven't read my posts properly if you still say that I don't know for a fact that he's a millionnaire. Either that or the jealousy caused you to conveniently skim over it ;)
Unless you're his accountant how would you know? hey wait you are an account lol anyway in the end YOU don't know if he's a millionaire you just believe him when he says he isWatch out for that logic, ND. If I stated that I knew you were a millionaire, then I guess that would be good enough for bobs. Unless, he was the jealous type. ;)
Sure everything is personal with you when someone disagrees , they're desperate and jealous ::) and thanks for admitting YOU don't know if he's a millionaire that's all I asked ;)
Watch out for that logic, ND. If I stated that I knew you were a millionaire, then I guess that would be good enough for bobs. Unless, he was the jealous type. ;)
Ha ha ha ha great post ! if you question if he is or isn't you're jealous lol he is just take my word for it
Nope, but there is sufficient evidence (current lifestyle, past earnings, intelligence, etc.) yet one makes reaching assumptions such as "credit" or "living off of family" it does suggest jealousy.Your Honour. I enter into evidence: Bernie Madoff. Strike one.
If I saw anyone in their early 40's who I knew made millions during their career and now does not work and lives a relaxed lifestyle I would feel safe in assuming they are a millionnaire. If someone kept looking for reasons to dodge that likelihood I would assume they are jealous.
Nope, but there is sufficient evidence (current lifestyle, past earnings, intelligence, etc.) yet one makes reaching assumptions such as "credit" or "living off of family" it does suggest jealousy.
If I saw anyone in their early 40's who I knew made millions during their career and now does not work and lives a relaxed lifestyle I would feel safe in assuming they are a millionnaire. If someone kept looking for reasons to dodge that likelihood I would assume they are jealous.
Nope, but there is sufficient evidence (current lifestyle, past earnings, intelligence, etc.) yet one makes reaching assumptions such as "credit" or "living off of family" it does suggest jealousy.
If I saw anyone in their early 40's who I knew made millions during their career and now does not work and lives a relaxed lifestyle I would feel safe in assuming they are a millionnaire. If someone kept looking for reasons to dodge that likelihood I would assume they are jealous.
Current lifestyle: He has large expenses? How does he pay for these expenses? Does he pay? What expenses are these?
Past Earnings: How do you know what he use to earn? Forget what Nasser has said. What articles or references of proof can you provide to prove how much he use to earn and where that money went, assuming he kept care of it or invested it, in which more proof should arise.
Intelligence: This depends on how you percieve him apparently. He may seem smart to you, but smart people always seem like a genius in a room full of morons. You said in your previous post that your statement of Nassers intelligence was an exaggeration, so I'm automatically not considering this point.
Current lifestyle: He has large expenses? How does he pay for these expenses? Does he pay? What expenses are these?
Past Earnings: How do you know what he use to earn? Forget what Nasser has said. What articles or references of proof can you provide to prove how much he use to earn and where that money went, assuming he kept care of it or invested it, in which more proof should arise.
Intelligence: This depends on how you percieve him apparently. He may seem smart to you, but smart people always seem like a genius in a room full of morons. You said in your previous post that your statement of Nassers intelligence was an exaggeration, so I'm automatically not considering this point.
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Oh man, the desire to argue for pages over the wealth of a man you do not even know is remarkable! :)
You're defending his assumed wealth is the remarkable aspect and trying to get a straight answer out of you is another ;)
bottom line entertaining he is super wealthy that means what? you keep posting as if it means something , I bet Nasser would trade all the money in the world for at least one Sandow ;) more to life than bragging about money on the internet Bob
I know the guy, you don't. I would not go for pages arguing about what Dorian Yates' net worth may be, because I don't know him and don't care, but I would still give benefit of the doubt that he's a millionnaire even if he sought no external sources of income after he retired like his supplement line. Physique I might debate for some pages because it is a bodybuilding forum, but trying to argue against a man's wealth who I don't know? Nah.
Never said he's "super-wealthy" - I always chose words like "well off" and "decent lifestyle." I discuss his wealth when questioned about it or upon accusations that he is not well off. More to life than arguing against money on the internet ND.
He honestly would not trade much money for a Sandow. When I visited he had tens of trophies all wrapped up in a corner in his home and only a couple on display
I know the guy, you don't. I would not go for pages arguing about what Dorian Yates' net worth may be, because I don't know him and don't care, but I would still give benefit of the doubt that he's a millionnaire even if he sought no external sources of income after he retired like his supplement line. Physique I might debate for some pages because it is a bodybuilding forum, but trying to argue against a man's wealth who I don't know? Nah.
Never said he's "super-wealthy" - I always chose words like "well off" and "decent lifestyle." I discuss his wealth when questioned about it or upon accusations that he is not well off. More to life than arguing against money on the internet ND.
He honestly would not trade much money for a Sandow. When I visited he had tens of trophies all wrapped up in a corner in his home and only a couple on display
again YOU don't know if he's a millionaire that's the whole point that's either your assumption and or him telling you either way you still don't know
I never claimed you said he was super wealthy , I choose that word , again the money isn't the issue that's being argued about , it's the fact YOU don't know if he is or not is that 'debate ' ;)
There are trophies and then there is the Sandow , big difference and you and even he claims he is the uncrowned Mr Olympia so I think it weighs heavily on his mind 11 years later lol
There are trophies and then there is the Sandow , big difference and you and even he claims he is the uncrowned Mr Olympia so I think it weighs heavily on his mind 11 years later lolAt least 3x
How many times do I need to say that I saw physical document evidence that proves he's a millionnaire? So yes, I do KNOW that he's a millionnaire.
You never claimed you seen a physical document evidence ( sic ) ) that proves he's a millionaire , keep track of your story
Yawn, if I cared I could probably find at least three quotes in this very thread where I said that.
...or three times (at least) where I said that ;)
NO you never once said that, that's a lie , I will call you out find me where other than this past post you claimed this I saw physical document evidence that proves he's a millionnaire? and good luck ;)
I said I saw "documentary evidence" and that I wasn't going to disclose the details since they are personal. One doesn't have to use the EXACT SAME words (when they mean the same thing) each time something is said to claim they have already said it. Fuck you're anal, lol.
Now you'd be set to go for pages and pages to micro-inspect and debate above paragraph lol. I have better things to do this evening. Take care :)
I said I saw "documentary evidence" and that I wasn't going to disclose the details since they are personal. One doesn't have to use the EXACT SAME words (when they mean the same thing) each time something is said to claim they have already said it. Fuck you're anal, lol.LOL. I have never once in my life ever seen, or been privy, to another person's 'documentary evidence' of wealth. Nasser just have his bank book open on the table? Did he take you into the el Sonbatty gold depository? Maybe he had price tags on all his objects? How would another person's wealth or assets even be broached in polite conversation!?
Now you'd be set to go for pages and pages to micro-inspect and debate above paragraph lol. I have better things to do this evening. Take care :)
Bigbobs is an accountant and a good friend of Nasser's. Is it really that hard for people to understand why Bigbobs might be privy to Nasser's personal wealth? ::)Hmm. I understand that the wealth of public figures like Buffett and Gates are 'public knowledge' because of corporate governance and disclosure, but Nasser as well! My. my. Can you provide a link, HugeAl?
Anyway, it's public knowledge that Nasser sold his home for a few million dollars, owns three cars and earned over a million US dollars from his Weider contract alone.
Hmm. I understand that the wealth of public figures like Buffett and Gates are 'public knowledge' because of corporate governance and disclosure, but Nasser as well! My. my. Can you provide a link, HugeAl?
Mon_of_Steel asked Nasser 10 interesting questions, and Nasser has answered 5 of them so far, which I'm pasting below. I made a new thread for it because many others probably didn't click on the original thread not realizing that it contains an insightful statement by Nasser within, as opposed to the typical Nasser threads plagued by immaturity of some other members.
1. What's his opinion on Dexter winning the O?
I think it was too long for Cutler to continue getting contest presents despire his deteriorating look, bad shape and condition. Cutler was no longer acceptable as Mr. " O " because it was too obvious that he was pushed by the financially strong white financial powers, including Manion who still loves black east coast athletes, but even more he loves the white east coast athletes. Also boring Cutler and Cutler's permanent brown nosing for years and telling Manion over and over again that he " admires Yates his body ( because Manion was ALWAYS a Yates fan ) ", had paid off at the beginning but it did not at the final end. Even for the average knowledged bodybuilding fan it was too obvious that he ( Cutler ) was not the best body builder on the planet due to his drummer waist, a biceps tear, atrophying quad muscle, NO vascularity in the upper body, heaps of wrinkles and folds. Even In some contest poses Cutler looked like he had too much baby fat on his body.
So " they " built up Dexter parallell to Cutler because at least both of them have been regularly consistent for years with their physiques compared to many others. Dexter deserved to win the " O" in 2008. No doubt. But if Dexter would have competed in the 90ies, which he did ( = pinnacle of pro body building's development ) with his look now he would have placed high but most likely would have barely reached the top six of the " O "'s. Dexter would have not been able to beat guys in their prime like Wheeler, Ray, Coleman, Yates,...neither physically nor politically. Dexter was and is so far consistent but he lucky that the best body building era with the guys with the best shape, symmetry and size was in the ninties and not now.
2. Who does he think is the next in line for the O, Heath, Wolf, Martinez?
If Martines makes more improvements he can be the new Mr. " O " in 2009 - but will his record be " something " against him and also that he is originally not a NPC athlete but from the Dominican Republic? Heath is also very good but he is too narrow. His nice personality and good demenour can speak for him at the end if he comes in great condition. Wolf is an introvert, worse than anyone else on that stage. He is a foreigner ( who does not live in the US ), regardless if from Russia or seen as German. The judging clique will not give a member of the Aryan race the ultimate title ( we are not living anymore in Arnold's times ). Also Wolf has very weak hams and calves. Most black guys have also terrible ( due to their genetics ) and weak calves but they dont get penalized for it, however it will be taken more seriously in Wolf's situation. Further Wolf has too flat of a back with great lack of size in the lower back. And further Wolf looked better in 2007 than in 2008. He better also stay away from Milos Sarcev permanently. An association with Milos is not good for any aspiring athlete or an average person who wants to be taken seriously. But if you are interested to talk about penis sizes, male sex endurance, drugs in general and drugs in specific and to learn how to cheat people out of your money, then go to Milos Sarcev.
3. Knowing what he knows now about the IFBB, would he still have got into bodybuilding like he did?
I do think that the best body building federation is the IFBB. There is no better one. DeMilia's former PDI was a failure, obviously.
From my point of view there is no alternative to the IFBB despite my and other guys criticism. There are a lot of problems in many associations, federations, institutions,..even in every government in this world. But it would be so much easier to accept " wrong's " from the other side if many more people / athlete's would be paid better, higher and contracts would be longer.
I personally was with Weider 10 + years and made over one million US Dollars in contract money without even counting any other sources of money I earned from the sport. The way I see it I was paid by Weider and not by the IFBB ( despite the prize money ). However I received placements from the IFBB before I turned pro and because I placed high in many shows ( 32 placings in the top three in 33 shows ) I got a higher value / market value which Weider reflected in my income. Basically in one way or the other Weider and the IFBB work together.
There is so much more in the upcoming book regarding the IFBB which I do not like to reveal here. Weider made a body building hero out of me ( photo shoots, my salary increasing which further motivated me,...), not the IFBB despite that it was the IFBB who placed me.
4. If he was 20 today would he get into bodybuilding with the state it's in
Not really, because there is too much work, sacrifice, self torture,....and the pay is too low. There is no money for someone who is even regularly top 15 in the world of pros. The lack of proper reembursement and lack of medical health care makes athletes become more aggressive among each other, creates more hostilities, and less self conscience about potential medical problems. It is not all about money but you can not just live off love of the sport. And a lot of IFBB guys in suits just do not care because they are selfish or / and do not make too much money for themselves either. Pesonally I do not see any major progress in pro body building.
G4Pay, escort service, muscleworeship,...are all part of the dark body building industry. Personally I do believe that people who have a " weakness for money " do all kinds of things which are related to sex / body. This not just the case in ( pro ) body building. And let us not forget there are many people who do not see anything wrong with earning from these acts. This is not a justification but for many people it is really not a big deal, especially if you have tendencies to exhibit your body naturally without clothing.
If body building would be higher paying, the judges would be regularly rotated ( not for most of the time " life long " installed ) and more money would be around then body building would be so much more popular. Even golf, which is not a really athletic sport has more acceptance than body building, because it is so highly paid.
5. How does he feel about Obama being the president.
I think it is good to be away from the catastrophic 16 years of Bush government, but especially the last eight years of the younger Bush. And the last Bush was not really the most intelligent and capable person to resolve inner domestic issues or outside of the USA lying problems. Bush did that what he was told to be done. Even 95 % his speeches have been not written by himself. He was just a simple puppet. From that perspective seen, I think almost everything else after him is " better and good ".
However the problem for Obama, a very intelligent and articulate man, is that it will be more than difficult and in some areas impossible to do a positive " change ". But at least Obama, despite his seriousness in foreign affairs will not pull the US in another war like McCain potentially or Bush. 12 billion US Dollars spent / monthly on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan since March 2003 has not brought more world stability or " convinced " radicals to realize that they should better themselves due to Bush otherwise coming after them. Bush lacked in diplomacy, vision and peaceful coexistance, hopefully Obama will be not a failure in those areas as well. Personally I think that Bush damaged the American people and its image more than he helped them. We can see this almost every day here. Hopefully Bush can sleep well despite him destroying over 4000 American lives, crippling thousands of " believing in the right thing " US service men and women and being responsible for over a million dead and crippled non Americans who had nothing to do with 09 / 11. It will be more than difficult for Obama to repair what Bush has terminated and permanently or temporarilly damaged. Anyone else than Obama would have not a lesser problem now.