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By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.
Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.
“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”
Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.
The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-tosses-cold-water-on-reviving-assault-weapon-ban-2009-02-26.html (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-tosses-cold-water-on-reviving-assault-weapon-ban-2009-02-26.html)
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HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA
Pelosi is reading getbig today.
She enjoys having a Dem congress. She knows how many seats this assault weapons ban will cost her.
Funny... pelosi makes sense on this one.
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Wow... That's a good piece of news... The Dems are not so dumb these days are they?
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oh brother... imagine giving the repubs 22 months to RUN RUN RUN with this anti-gun story.
They'd lose 20+ seats in the congress, and grab a few senate seats.
Gun control is a poison issue. I wonder if we'll see obama chide Holder for saying it, or deny it completely.
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Well, I think it's simple... Only the dumbest of politicians think that this country is SOOO liberal that they are willing to give up their guns.
It's just not... Hell... I won't give up my guns... No way. If the Dems think I'm willing to give up my guns just because I think the Republicans were idiots under Bush, then the Dems are idiots too. I'm just not willing to do it.
I think the Dems are smarter now than they were in the past. They understand and they aren't screwing up a good thing with some stupid legislation like that. They know full well that they are being given a free pass on a lot of things and they better not fuck it up, or the pass will be revoked.
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maybe this was the 'grapevine' thing.
When a CEO wants to unveil a potentially unpopular policy, he'll have the secretary leak it. Then he'll talk to key plants in the company to gauge the overall perception by employees. Maybe they shrugged, said it sucks, but oh well. Maybe they said they'd rather quit than accept the change. Then, the CEO decides whether or not the savings of the new pal are worth the potential empoyee mutiny.
Obama has goofball lackey Holder leak this news to the country (on drudge, mind you ;)
Maybe they do quiet polls, or just read the blogs. They see "holy shit, people are really pissed. this is something we can't get away with" and will ease back now. Pelosi is covering congress' ass.
i'll be VERY shocked if Obama pushes this. He's smart enough to know what issues can screw up this good thing he has going. 60+% approval rating. You can imagine how far that'd drop with an AWBan.
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A ban on AW would equate to a 20 point drop in approval... guaranteed.
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A ban on AW would equate to a 20 point drop in approval... guaranteed.
haha AT LEAST!
I'd personally knock on doors for that liar Piyush Jindal in 2012 if that were the case.
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haha AT LEAST!
I'd personally knock on doors for that liar Piyush Jindal in 2012 if that were the case.
As would I... I'm with Charlie Heston on this one.
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The politicians aren't gonna take away your guns--yet.
And if they ever try to, well--use said weapons.
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The politicians aren't gonna take away your guns--yet.
And if they ever try to, well--use said weapons.
lol
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The politicians aren't gonna take away your guns--yet.
And if they ever try to, well--use said weapons.
The Politicians couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. THEY won't be taking the guns away..
The POLICE would be. And they shoot back!
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The Politicians couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. THEY won't be taking the guns away..
The POLICE would be. And they shoot back!
Shoot them first.
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Oh Nozzze! Now the whiny neocons will have to grovel and thank Nancy for saving their ability to purchase AR15 models with nightscopes and bullets with titanium cores and armor piercing shell coating. (Cause you know that deer nowdays travel around the woods in armored personnel transports).
Gotta arm yo'self for when the riots break out and the race voters roll up with their Tec-9s on your foreclosed home so they can steal your canned Spam and duffel bags.
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Oh Nozzze! Now the whiny neocons will have to grovel and thank Nancy for saving their ability to purchase AR15 models with nightscopes and bullets with titanium cores and armor piercing shell coating. (Cause you know that deer nowdays travel around the woods in armored personnel transports).
Gotta arm yo'self for when the riots break out and the race voters roll up with their Tec-9s on your foreclosed home so they can steal your canned Spam and duffel bags.
Laugh all you want, my Bushmaster AR15 bought for $950.00 in September 2008 has more value than the $950 in stocks, bonds, etc anyone else bought at the same time.
Deal with it.
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Laugh all you want, my Bushmaster AR15 bought for $950.00 in September 2008 has more value than the $950 in stocks, bonds, etc anyone else bought at the same time.
Deal with it.
BOOM!!!
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Laugh all you want, my Bushmaster AR15 bought for $950.00 in September 2008 has more value than the $950 in stocks, bonds, etc anyone else bought at the same time.
Deal with it.
And your idiotic fear mongering display has more value than any cable tv package I could purchase as well.
Hard to justify any rational thinking on your part when you admit you get your marching orders from the Day of the Dead scifi movie.
Reality. One day you might be strong enough to deal with THAT. ::)
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And your idiotic fear mongering display has more value than any cable tv package I could purchase as well.
Hard to justify any rational thinking on your part when you admit you get your marching orders from the Day of the Dead scifi movie.
Reality. One day you might be strong enough to deal with THAT. ::)
Again, tell me the investment you made in September 2008 that has doubled in value????
You cant, because you didnt, and you never will. Liberals by and large like yourself are self deluded into thinking that everything will be perect if we just embrace communism and not fight it right????
BTW - Michael Savage is 100% correct - liberalism is a severe mental disorder.
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My investment was Nov 8th with a vote for Obama.
So far I have reaped quite a bit in return when measured by the entertainment your far fetched End of Days, sobbing, gnashing of teeth, whining, and overall fantasy land beliefs have provided on here.
Repubs are notoriously famous for exposing themselves as hypocrites on a double standard. With that in mind, perhaps you can tell us all how your little Bushmaster investment has "doubled in value?" (your words). Did they use gold to decorate it? Are you saying the increase in net gold worth/weight has made your little $950 investment double? Did the Bushmaster become a collectors item overnight and it's value go up? Are you using it to rob 7-11s?
So how exactly again did your "Sept 2008 investment" increase in value? Or is there really no measureable value to it, instead just whatever "value" your survival fantasy has regulated to it? Because I see nothing on the markets stating the little Bushmaster line has increased.
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My investment was Nov 8th with a vote for Obama.
So far I have reaped quite a bit in return when measured by the entertainment your far fetched End of Days, sobbing, gnashing of teeth, whining, and overall fantasy land beliefs have provided on here.
Repubs are notoriously famous for exposing themselves as hypocrites on a double standard. With that in mind, perhaps you can tell us all how your little Bushmaster investment has "doubled in value?" (your words). Did they use gold to decorate it? Are you saying the increase in net gold worth/weight has made your little $950 investment double? Did the Bushmaster become a collectors item overnight and it's value go up? Are you using it to rob 7-11s?
So how exactly again did your "Sept 2008 investment" increase in value? Or is there really no measureable value to it, instead just whatever "value" your survival fantasy has regulated to it? Because I see nothing on the markets stating the little Bushmaster line has increased.
Here is why you liberal dope addict who never took an economics course,
There is currently a 1 year or so back log at Bushmaster from making AR15's because Obama and his appointees have made it clear they want to renew the AWB. Theat has created a huge demand for these weapons that the existing mfg base cannot meet.
That demand has created an increase in the price of exsiting AR's, no different than AK's, Saigas, or Springfield SOCOM's.
Serious - are you that ignorant of basic economics or are you making this up???
BTW - your "investment" in Obama is costing you at least $25,000 in the budget alone, not including the interest to be paid on the stimulus plan.
My investment paid off by about 100% in less than a year, your "investment'" helped put us all in debt for years to come.
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Again, this time in simplistic language for you.
Show me evidence where Bushmaster has increased in value from $950 since Sept. 08. Something simple. A verifiable link to where the Bushmaster is selling for more TODAY than it did in Sept 08.
Hey, you brought up "investments" and how much they did or didn't double in value. Let's see the proof.
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Again, this time in simplistic language for you.
Show me evidence where Bushmaster has increased in value from $950 since Sept. 08. Something simple. A verifiable link to where the Bushmaster is selling for more TODAY than it did in Sept 08.
Hey, you brought up "investments" and how much they did or didn't double in value. Let's see the proof.
Call a gun store and ask for the price. My friend who owns a gun store near me said they are charging him $1,600 wholesale as a dealer price. Bushmaster does not sell to the public directly.
Do some research before you want to talk to me about things you have no clue about.
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Tell me the exact model make and #. Bushmaster makes quite a few different kind in various categories. Hunting, Competition, Self Defense...
I am not interested in "your friend who owns a gun store near you". I am interested in the model/make YOU have that was purchased in Sept 08 for $950.
Give me that, I will find out the rest and post the real "value" of your "investment". Since apparently you can't seem to provide evidence to a claim you made (hypocrite), I will gladly do it for you.
So.... what make/model.
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Tell me the exact model make and #. Bushmaster makes quite a few different kind in various categories. Hunting, Competition, Self Defense...
I am not interested in "your friend who owns a gun store near you". I am interested in the model/make YOU have that was purchased in Sept 08 for $950.
Give me that, I will find out the rest and post the real "value" of your "investment". Since apparently you can't seem to provide evidence to a claim you made (hypocrite), I will gladly do it for you.
So.... what make/model.
First off, I am not giving the sertial number.
It is the post ban - NY legal model .223 A4 2008
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Tell me the exact model make and #. Bushmaster makes quite a few different kind in various categories. Hunting, Competition, Self Defense...
I am not interested in "your friend who owns a gun store near you". I am interested in the model/make YOU have that was purchased in Sept 08 for $950.
Give me that, I will find out the rest and post the real "value" of your "investment". Since apparently you can't seem to provide evidence to a claim you made (hypocrite), I will gladly do it for you.
So.... what make/model.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search/Family/2/1/AR15-Rifles.htm
Show me where you can get a brand new one for $960.00
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First off, I am not giving the sertial number.
It is the post ban - NY legal model .223 A4 2008
I never asked for a serial #. Or is reading not your strong point? I asked for the model make and #. Completely different thing.
You know... the Model Make (Competition, Self Defense, Military, Law Enforcement, etc..) and the # within that category. You know...
Anyhow, let's see what comes up on A4 .223 cal 2008
http://www.google.com/products?q=bushmaster+a4&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Hi2oScHaMtWDtweUsMT1Dw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
$899???
Ummm... not exactly seeing your investment has gone up. Perhaps if you slap a COLT sticker on the side it will double in price.
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I never asked for a serial #. Or is reading not your strong point? I asked for the model make and #. Completely different thing.
You know... the Model Make (Competition, Self Defense, Military, Law Enforcement, etc..) and the # within that category. You know...
Anyhow, let's see what comes up on A4 .223 cal 2008
http://www.google.com/products?q=bushmaster+a4&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Hi2oScHaMtWDtweUsMT1Dw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
$899???
Ummm... not exactly seeing your investment has gone up. Perhaps if you slap a COLT sticker on the side it will double in price.
I sent you the gunsamerica page did you look at it?????
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_PCWA3X_14M4IZ.asp
That is the model BTW.
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http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search/Family/2/1/AR15-Rifles.htm
Show me where you can get a brand new one for $960.00
Not exactly seeing any Bushmaster A4 on that site.
Now here is where you have a choice. You can :
1 - find a link to one that says Bushmaster A4.
2 - change your story and claim it is really the Bushmaster M4.
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I sent you the gunsamerica page did you look at it?????
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_PCWA3X_14M4IZ.asp
That is the model BTW.
Ahhh.... while I was typing the previous response you took my advice and changed from the A4 to the M4.
Even with the story change (as if true gun lovers would ever make a mistake about any gun they actually owned), there is nothing out there that supports your little rants about "investments" doubling.
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Not exactly seeing any Bushmaster A4 on that site.
Now here is where you have a choice. You can :
1 - find a link to one that says Bushmaster A4.
2 - change your story and claim it is really the Bushmaster M4.
I sent you the direct link the exact weapon. Do me a favor call and gun store, anywhere and see if you can get one.
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I sent you the direct link the exact weapon. Do me a favor call and gun store, anywhere and see if you can get one.
You sent a link to the Bushmaster M4.
The gun you say you bought was the Bushmaster A4.
Two different things.
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You sent a link to the Bushmaster M4.
The gun you say you bought was the Bushmaster A4.
Two different things.
I forgot. It is the one in the link I sent from the site itself. Go try to find one if you can. I guaranty you there are almost none around.
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I forgot. It is the one in the link I sent from the site itself. Go try to find one if you can. I guaranty you there are almost none around.
http://www.google.com/products?q=bushmaster+m4+post+ban&hl=en
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http://www.google.com/products?q=bushmaster+m4+post+ban&hl=en
Go click on your links before you post them. Almost every one of them is sold out or out of stock.
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I have an extremely hard time believing that a neocon dimwit would "forget" what model of gun he just "bought" and "owned". That is about as plausible as forgetting your kids name or the make/model of the car you drive.
Seriously, I am believing the entire thing is nothing more than a figment of your imagination and fantasy land delusions you have in your attempts at "role playing". You come on here, whine, gnash your teeth, espouse end of world scenarios, talk some shiiiiittt about "you did this" or "you did that" or "you are going to..." and yet.... upon casual inspection and challenge your story falls all apart.
On down the road when Obama is still kicking ass and pushing a thriving economy are you going to conveniently "forget" you posted all this bullshit about the nation ending, hidden messages in scifi horror movies, hordes of zombie looters on the loose, etc...
Epic backpedaling.
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I have an extremely hard time believing that a neocon dimwit would "forget" what model of gun he just "bought" and "owned". That is about as plausible as forgetting your kids name or the make/model of the car you drive.
Seriously, I am believing the entire thing is nothing more than a figment of your imagination and fantasy land delusions you have in your attempts at "role playing". You come on here, whine, gnash your teeth, espouse end of world scenarios, talk some shiiiiittt about "you did this" or "you did that" or "you are going to..." and yet.... upon casual inspection and challenge your story falls all apart.
On down the road when Obama is still kicking ass and pushing a thriving economy are you going to conveniently "forget" you posted all this bullshit about the nation ending, hidden messages in scifi horror movies, hordes of zombie looters on the loose, etc...
Epic backpedaling.
Dipshit, do you want me to pm you the copy of the receipt?
I sent you the link to the exact weapon. Do want me to take ap picture of it later when I go home?
Like I said, check our linksbefore you post them because they are all sold out. I got one letter off that I forgot and gave you the exact details. you can handle the fact that once again I was right.
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I am going to lunch now. But when I come back I will certainly find even MORE of the same ones that are nowhere near DOUBLE like you claim.
M4 that is.... none of this A4 shit.
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I am going to lunch now. But when I come back I will certainly find even MORE of the same ones that are nowhere near DOUBLE like you claim.
M4 that is.... none of this A4 shit.
Do me a favor, tell me what city you live in and I will call a local gun store where you live and we can price this out for right now?
Deal????
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sometimes i masturbate to the serial numebrs of my guns, true story :)
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sometimes i masturbate to the serial numebrs of my guns, true story :)
240 you will know this - how much is brand new Bushmaster AR15 right now, if you can get one.
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I don't know about online, but at my local gunstore an M4 both folding and collapsable stocks are going for about $1100-$1200
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240 you will know this - how much is brand new Bushmaster AR15 right now, if you can get one.
cant get one.
but if you could, my guess from the local palin-lovin gun stores is 1200.
i was in there on monday. same old ish. The reason they don't have what i need in stock? "Blame Obama".
Seriously. After hearing this for the 5th time, I politely asked him for any reason that had to do with supply chain, mnfg, etc. he just shrugged and said "it's obamas fault".
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I don't know about online, but at my local gunstore an M4 both folding and collapsable stocks are going for about $1100-$1200
You are in SC. I am in NY. Big difference.
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Yeah, but I was just answering your question as regards to price. We do have plenty of them here(just not Bushmaster Brand) The gun shop I'm talking about will do FFL transfers. I know you are in New York, but if you need something that is out of stock you should try that route.
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Yeah, but I was just answering your question as regards to price. We do have plenty of them here(just not Bushmaster Brand) The gun shop I'm talking about will do FFL transfers. I know you are in New York, but if you need something that is out of stock you should try that route.
I have a close friend who owns a gun store and told me that the distributors are charging 1500 for Bushmasters now, and even they are on at least 6 month to a year back order for new ones.
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I have a close friend who owns a gun store and told me that the distributors are charging 1500 for Bushmasters now, and even they are on at least 6 month to a year back order for new ones.
i saw one back in Colorado 2 year2 back for $960
They still had them at Christmas this year, priced at about $1200 plux tax.
That's a lot of money for a relatively crappy rifle. You can get much better for less.
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cant get one.
but if you could, my guess from the local palin-lovin gun stores is 1200.
i was in there on monday. same old ish. The reason they don't have what i need in stock? "Blame Obama".
Seriously. After hearing this for the 5th time, I politely asked him for any reason that had to do with supply chain, mnfg, etc. he just shrugged and said "it's obamas fault".
Are you saying it's not Obama's fault?