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Title: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: James on March 02, 2009, 07:28:36 AM

Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?


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20 + States Declaring Sovereignty Under the 10th Amendment!!!


Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 02, 2009, 07:51:55 AM
I smell UPRISING in america as states turn into INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES to absolve themselves of the financial trouble america is taking itself into.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 09:53:11 AM
Ahhh...no..ur an idiot.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 02, 2009, 09:55:34 AM
OH...I am sorry...do you have another reason for this desire to depart?????
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 10:03:30 AM
They're sending a message to Washington. They're telling em that BS controls, taxes, greenhouse gas bs that stifles business, intrustion into state affairs, wasteful tax spending all need to stop. The Federal government has lost sight of the fact that the states can tell them to go screw, something that everybody has lost sight of. The Fed has a specific roll one which has nothing to do with healthcarea dn other bullshit regulations. Now where are u from?
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
They're sending a message to Washington. They're telling em that BS controls, taxes, greenhouse gas bs that stifles business, intrustion into state affairs, wasteful tax spending all need to stop. The Federal government has lost sight of the fact that the states can tell them to go screw, something that everybody has lost sight of. The Fed has a specific roll one which has nothing to do with healthcarea dn other bullshit regulations. Now where are u from?

Im glad my G26 and AK are coming in this week. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 10:20:18 AM
They're sending a message to Washington. They're telling em that BS controls, taxes, greenhouse gas bs that stifles business, intrustion into state affairs, wasteful tax spending all need to stop. The Federal government has lost sight of the fact that the states can tell them to go screw, something that everybody has lost sight of. The Fed has a specific roll one which has nothing to do with healthcarea dn other bullshit regulations. Now where are u from?

I remember hearing about a bunch of Southern States that told the feds they were asserting their states rights.

Does anyone remember how that assertion of 'states rights' turned out?
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 10:22:26 AM
Yeah......except this time u have states from all over the place saying the same thing. Its gonna be hard to fight a war with an army made up of crackheads and ACORN organizers from DC. Maybe Mrs Obama, with her buff arms can lead the way.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 10:24:21 AM
I remember hearing about a bunch of Southern States that told the feds they were asserting their states rights.

Does anyone remember how that assertion of 'states rights' turned out?

This time its not a north south type of thing, its a tyrant - freedom thing.

The Obama tyrants vs. the people who want to be left alone. 

This is going to get very ugly very quick.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 10:30:09 AM
There are alot more of us then  of them. If u morons on the Left think the military will operate against US citizens, especially at the behest of Obama and the Dems, ur smoking crack. Funny, Bush, Patriot act...tearing up the Constitution etc etc...and only when a Leftist nutbag gets in, are we talking about this crap.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 10:34:22 AM
There are alot more of us then  of them. If u morons on the Left think the military will operate against US citizens, especially at the behest of Obama and the Dems, ur smoking crack. Funny, Bush, Patriot act...tearing up the Constitution etc etc...and only when a Leftist nutbag gets in, are we talking about this crap.

I think Celente is 100% correct.  This is going to get very messy.  I can see it.  I am in the Bronx NY can see things getting back to what it was like in 1990. 

The far left dreamers have no clue what their delusions result in when put into practice.

Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 02, 2009, 10:56:35 AM
There are alot more of us then  of them. If u morons on the Left think the military will operate against US citizens, especially at the behest of Obama and the Dems, ur smoking crack. Funny, Bush, Patriot act...tearing up the Constitution etc etc...and only when a Leftist nutbag gets in, are we talking about this crap.

The Germans though the same thing moron. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 10:59:29 AM
The Germans though the same thing moron. 

The germans did not have the internet, transportation like we have, firearms like we have, TV, radio, etc like we have.

Big difference.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
Yeah......except this time u have states from all over the place saying the same thing. Its gonna be hard to fight a war with an army made up of crackheads and ACORN organizers from DC. Maybe Mrs Obama, with her buff arms can lead the way.

Considering the election results Nov 2008, ...I'd say the crackheads & ACORN organizers are a force to be reckoned with!  :P
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 11:11:22 AM
Considering the election results Nov 2008, ...I'd say the crackheads & ACORN organizers are a force to be reckoned with!  :P

Thank god for the 2nd amendment.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 02, 2009, 11:21:26 AM
The germans did not have the internet, transportation like we have, firearms like we have, TV, radio, etc like we have.

Big difference.

LMAO!  Yeah and the people don't have F-22s, Abrams tanks, and unmanned Predator drones. The government could shut down the internet in a matter of minutes if need be.  You really don't realize how much power they have do you? 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
LMAO!  Yeah and the people don't have F-22s, Abrams tanks, and unmanned Predator drones. The government could shut down the internet in a matter of minutes if need be.  You really don't realize how much power they have do you? 

All it will take is a few goobers and gang bangers taking out a few dozen dead ATF/Dea/FBI/ etc and they will think twice.

   
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
All it will take is a few goobers and gang bangers taking out a few dozen dead ATF/Dea/FBI/ etc and they will think twice.
   

If they're dead, ...why take them out? ...unless you think they're gonna stink up the place?  ;)
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 11:32:37 AM
If they're dead, ...why take them out? ...unless you think they're gonna stink up the place?  ;)

You know what I meant.  If the govt keeps it up, it is going to spawn a few dozen McVeigh's and then things will get very hairy.   
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 02, 2009, 11:39:23 AM
All it will take is a few goobers and gang bangers taking out a few dozen dead ATF/Dea/FBI/ etc and they will think twice.

   

 ::)  You've watched Red Dawn one too many times dude.  This is the 21st century with state of the art satellites and precision guided bombs.  A city full of gang bangers and rednecks wouldn't last a chance.  Plus the gang bangers would probably be too busy looting and causing chaos to be of much use in a revolution. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 11:40:28 AM
You know what I meant.  If the govt keeps it up, it is going to spawn a few dozen McVeigh's and then things will get very hairy.   

If things get hairy, ...I got news for you. The government will turn into a giant bottle of Nair!

(http://www.aerostar.com/coldair/images/Nair_Bottle_20.jpg)
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 02, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
If things get hairy, ...I got news for you. The government will turn into a giant bottle of Nair!

(http://www.aerostar.com/coldair/images/Nair_Bottle_20.jpg)

lmao.  Good way to put it. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 11:43:51 AM
::)  You've watched Red Dawn one too many times dude.  This is the 21st century with state of the art satellites and precision guided bombs.  A city full of gang bangers and rednecks wouldn't last a chance. 

Not to mention infrared that can pick up individuals inside a building, or miniature remote controled spycams shaped like insects. They'd be squashed like bugs.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 11:45:44 AM
Not to mention infrared that can pick up individuals inside a building, or miniature remote controled spycams shaped like insects. They'd be squashed like bugs.


The govt cant all places at all times. 

Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 24KT on March 02, 2009, 11:47:39 AM
The govt cant all places at all times. 


You say that like you've never heard of the Patriot Act, or the fact that they can record every single phone call on the planet.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 02, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
The govt cant all places at all times. 



No but several thousand politicians, military officials, CIA, NSA, FBI, etc. with all the technological advances of the past 50 years is not match for millions of gang bangers and rednecks running around with Ak-47's.  LOL. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
No but several thousand politicians, military officials, CIA, NSA, FBI, etc. with all the technological advances of the past 50 years is not match for millions of gang bangers and rednecks running around with Ak-47's.  LOL. 

I dont agree with that.  The vast areas of the u.s. are such that its impossible for them to pull this off wo losing a lot of their own.

Just look at the movie "Shooter" with Marc Walberg.

 

 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 12:19:36 PM
Yeah and we're all gonna listen to Barry as he tell us to move against our own citizens....much easier to get rid of the morons in DC. Troops moving to defend against muslim shitbags as opposed to deploying to kill our own...big friggen difference. Oh and Muslce didn;t u say that Pakistan and China had much better militaries then us, how would we ever stop our own people? Yeah ok dude.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 02, 2009, 12:19:52 PM
They were doing this back in the early 90s.  Rushing doesn't seem to be the right word.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
Further, with all the shit u lefties cried about with Bush..who did Ruby Ridge, Waco and now all this social BS...friggen Dems. Maybe u ought to be scared that the Dems can use the Patriot act now.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 12:31:34 PM
Further, with all the shit u lefties cried about with Bush..who did Ruby Ridge, Waco and now all this social BS...friggen Dems. Maybe u ought to be scared that the Dems can use the Patriot act now.

What I forsee are tons of Michael Douglass' from "Falling Down"
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 02, 2009, 12:43:12 PM
Somebody just shot up a wallmart...i bet ur right.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 12:46:22 PM
Somebody just shot up a wallmart...i bet ur right.

Gerald Celente is 100% correct on what is coming. 

People are going to lose it big time. 

Falling Down was a great movie BTW. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: SAMSON123 on March 02, 2009, 07:07:03 PM
There are alot more of us then  of them. If u morons on the Left think the military will operate against US citizens, especially at the behest of Obama and the Dems, ur smoking crack. Funny, Bush, Patriot act...tearing up the Constitution etc etc...and only when a Leftist nutbag gets in, are we talking about this crap.

You better snap out of your delusion..the very topic of would a soldier fuire upon american citizens was addressed earlier this year and last year. THE SOLDIERS SAID YES!!!!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020408_shoot_americans.htm

The soldiers are more brain dead than your american cops and the news reports continuously about cops abusing peoples rights, torturing them, shooting them, tasing them, setting them up to take the blame for crimes not committed, etc etc etc. The fact that soldiers could go into INNOCENT NATIONS and kill literally MILLIONSof people at the command of their sargents is proof enough. Look at Vietnam (4 Million killed over a LIE) Korea, Japan, Thailand, Burma, Panama, Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, Haiti, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya etc etc...Mass killing have happened in these nation by american soldiers based upon LIES. In america troops have been set upon people in New Orleans (Katrina), protests in Washington State (NAFTA), moat large scale protests are controlled by way of the military and the National Guard (just another part of the military). So don't think soldiers are BEHOLDEN to citizens...they are some sick fucks in many cases, they are more beholden to the military and YES THEY WILL KILL YOU. You have seen the rash of killings done by soldiers to their own family members...what makes you think they won't do the same to you...the citizens of america.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act     Explanation of Posse Comitatus

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm    Erosion of Posse Comitatus

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/7/us_army_denies_unit_will_be   Video of soldiers training on american streets
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: stormshadow on March 02, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
You better snap out of your delusion..the very topic of would a soldier fuire upon american citizens was addressed earlier this year and last year. THE SOLDIERS SAID YES!!!!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020408_shoot_americans.htm

The soldiers are more brain dead than your american cops and the news reports continuously about cops abusing peoples rights, torturing them, shooting them, tasing them, setting them up to take the blame for crimes not committed, etc etc etc. The fact that soldiers could go into INNOCENT NATIONS and kill literally MILLIONSof people at the command of their sargents is proof enough. Look at Vietnam (4 Million killed over a LIE) Korea, Japan, Thailand, Burma, Panama, Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, Haiti, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya etc etc...Mass killing have happened in these nation by american soldiers based upon LIES. In america troops have been set upon people in New Orleans (Katrina), protests in Washington State (NAFTA), moat large scale protests are controlled by way of the military and the National Guard (just another part of the military). So don't think soldiers are BEHOLDEN to citizens...they are some sick fucks in many cases, they are more beholden to the military and YES THEY WILL KILL YOU. You have seen the rash of killings done by soldiers to their own family members...what makes you think they won't do the same to you...the citizens of america.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act     Explanation of Posse Comitatus

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm    Erosion of Posse Comitatus

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/7/us_army_denies_unit_will_be   Video of soldiers training on american streets

I feel the same way.  They will NOT look at American citizens as Sovereigns defending their rights, they will look at them as Human Trash that has fallen out of line.

They ARE part of the machine and they will SQUASH any resistance to it.

Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 02, 2009, 07:31:17 PM
Like KRS One said - Obama is the black face on the NWO.

Celente is right, time to get prepared.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 03, 2009, 09:25:28 AM
Yeah and we're all gonna listen to Barry as he tell us to move against our own citizens....much easier to get rid of the morons in DC. Troops moving to defend against muslim shitbags as opposed to deploying to kill our own...big friggen difference. Oh and Muslce didn;t u say that Pakistan and China had much better militaries then us, how would we ever stop our own people? Yeah ok dude.

Hey shitbag I never said Pakistan and China had better militaries than us.  I said China is a formidable opponent and if we were to go to war with Pakistan they would wreak havoc on our troops in Afghanistan because they have nuclear weapons.  You interpreting that as "better militaries" shows how much of a fucking moron you are.  You are a compartmentalized thinker.  Just how your owners want you to be. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: pumphard on March 03, 2009, 09:30:08 AM
They're sending a message to Washington. They're telling em that BS controls, taxes, greenhouse gas bs that stifles business, intrustion into state affairs, wasteful tax spending all need to stop. The Federal government has lost sight of the fact that the states can tell them to go screw, something that everybody has lost sight of. The Fed has a specific roll one which has nothing to do with healthcarea dn other bullshit regulations. Now where are u from?
You Obama lovers can twist it all you want, what they're saying is that if it doesn't stop, then they want out
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 11:53:12 AM
Hey shitbag I never said Pakistan and China had better militaries than us.  I said China is a formidable opponent and if we were to go to war with Pakistan they would wreak havoc on our troops in Afghanistan because they have nuclear weapons.  You interpreting that as "better militaries" shows how much of a fucking moron you are.  You are a compartmentalized thinker.  Just how your owners want you to be. 


Nope u said it....u said they were better. Nobody ever said we're going to invade Pakistan. Having a nuke doesn't make ur military better, it just means u have a nuke. Post after post of urs has mentioned that we're not fighting a real war...and I guess ur absolutley right. "We" aren't doing anything...the military is fighting the war, ur sitting on ur ass. Ur a 29 year old been nowhere, done nothing assbag.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 12:27:08 PM

Nope u said it....u said they were better. Nobody ever said we're going to invade Pakistan. Having a nuke doesn't make ur military better, it just means u have a nuke. Post after post of urs has mentioned that we're not fighting a real war...and I guess ur absolutley right. "We" aren't doing anything...the military is fighting the war, ur sitting on ur ass. Ur a 29 year old been nowhere, done nothing assbag.

Question:

If you had to have one rifle to save your life what would it be:

Ak 47

or

M16
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Out of the box...an AK. I'm a shot at a time guy, and the M-16 is very accurate at longer rangers..but the AK.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
Out of the box...an AK. I'm a shot at a time guy, and the M-16 is very accurate at longer rangers..but the AK.

Ok, how about these handguns:

Glock 17
Beretta 92B
WaltherPPK
Glock 26
S&W .38 Special

______________________

I am asking about a friend of mine who has these handguns and he wanted me to ask you.

Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
I hate Beretta but I imagine the civi versions are fine. I like my Kimber and other 1911's. I like H@K for everything else. I have handguns but would honestly prefer a machine pistol over a handgun. MP5 and 7's etc. There's nothing wrong with the M-4 in an urban setting but u really need to have something that can do both. Even much poorer militaries outfit their guys with H@K G36's. They are very good weapons.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 01:04:39 PM
Just look at the movie "Shooter" with Marc Walberg.

I didn't know fictional movies were now cool for evidence.

Hey, can we use "24" to show the effectiveness of torture in stopping African terrorists from infiltrating the air defense system?
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 01:05:27 PM
I hate Beretta but I imagine the civi versions are fine. I like my Kimber and other 1911's. I like H@K for everything else. I have handguns but would honestly prefer a machine pistol over a handgun. MP5 and 7's etc. There's nothing wrong with the M-4 in an urban setting but u really need to have something that can do both. Even much poorer militaries outfit their guys with H@K G36's. They are very good weapons.

The berretta "my friend has" is a bit heavy. 
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
I didn't know fictional movies were now cool for evidence.

Hey, can we use "24" to show the effectiveness of torture in stopping African terrorists from infiltrating the air defense system?

You are a fool.  Go back to jerking off to obama youtube videos.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 01:11:56 PM
The berretta "my friend has" is a bit heavy. 


I hate the damm thing.....9mm are weak as hell. We can't carry "special" ammo. Tell ur "friend" that I have plenty of high capacity mags if he's wedded to the damm thing.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 01:17:16 PM

I hate the damm thing.....9mm are weak as hell. We can't carry "special" ammo. Tell ur "friend" that I have plenty of high capacity mags if he's wedded to the damm thing.

He said he usually likes the G17 for shooting.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 01:29:03 PM
I just hope I get that job in Singapore... :-\
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 01:45:10 PM
Apparently they have relaxed their laws and its actually fun there.....don't chew any gum.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 02:18:22 PM
Apparently they have relaxed their laws and its actually fun there.....don't chew any gum.

Mate of mine here is from Singapore, is strict there but nothing I can't live without. Gum isn't such a huge issue for me. ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 02:34:53 PM
I read an article last week, they're allowing all kinds of stuff....plus its clean and they deal with criminals the right way.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: Deicide on March 03, 2009, 02:51:19 PM
I read an article last week, they're allowing all kinds of stuff....plus its clean and they deal with criminals the right way.

Yeah, sounds nice, hard to get a job there though. If I get this job it will be pure luck.
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: stormshadow on March 03, 2009, 03:09:33 PM
You are a fool.  Go back to jerking off to obama youtube videos.

Hey didn't' you know that Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol had a baby, but Sarah organized a cover-up and pretended it was hers.  Yep, I read it on a blog somewhere...
Title: Re: Does anyone wonder why the states are rushing to declare Sovereignty?
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
Yeah, sounds nice, hard to get a job there though. If I get this job it will be pure luck.

Good luck...I'm off to visit ur favorite people on Thursday.