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Wait, none of them have done that?
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Wait, none of them have done that?
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Just the most popular host in the nation with 20 million listeners.
BTW - Democrat Jim Cramer is under attack now from Gibbs. Is Cramer just a right wing lunatic too?
Evan Bayh called on Obama today to veto the spending bills - is he wrong????
Maureen Dowd said "I have been had" about Obama - is she a right winger?
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The rats are quickly jumping ship.
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Wait, none of them have done that?
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OH NO!!! They haven't stated the blatantly obvious......THE HORROR!!!
Of course, a bigger concern might be why the Obama administration is more obsessed with Rush Limbaugh than it is with Osama bin Laden.
Just the most popular host in the nation with 20 million listeners.
BTW - Democrat Jim Cramer is under attack now from Gibbs. Is Cramer just a right wing lunatic too?
Evan Bayh called on Obama today to veto the spending bills - is he wrong????
Maureen Dowd said "I have been had" about Obama - is she a right winger?
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The rats are quickly jumping ship.
I think you said it elsewhere. But, it needs to be reiterated. The people are becoming enraged about all this spending. And, now it's ALL ON OBAMA......no more blaming Bush for the country's woes (which Obama and crew love to do, as of late, when they get taken to task about this issue). We know Obama inherited a deficit. He's not getting slammed for that. He's getting slammed for spending more money in six weeks than Bush did in six years, primarily via a "stimulus" with more swine than a chain of Texas BBQ restaurants.
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Just the most popular host in the nation with 20 million listeners.
Hell, 54 MILLION people chose Obama as their leader. that's TRIPLE what Rush has.
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Hell, 54 MILLION people chose Obama as their leader. that's TRIPLE what Rush has.
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apples and oranges, your ignorance and lack of logic seems limitless
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Hell, 54 MILLION people chose Obama as their leader. that's TRIPLE what Rush has.
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Ha ha. Rush is a radio host and gets these listeners weekly.
ZERO convinced enough people that he was not GWN, that they would get a welfare check, and the "Hope & Change" was comibng to vote for him on one day. He had the unions, the media, and every sad sack interest group behind him.
Zero does not want a prolonged fight with Rush. Zero will get decimated.
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Obama got 1 to 2 million people to show up at some events.
Obama had millions watch his "info-mercial".
How many people can Rush assemble in one spot?
My point is that Popularity does NOT equal correctness. Hell, If Bin Laden had a radio station, you'd have a hundred million crazy idiots listening every day, right? Does that mean he's 5 to 10 times better than Rush? Of course not.
Audience size does not equal accuracy of content. Can we agree on that much?
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Obama got 1 to 2 million people to show up at some events.
Obama had millions watch his "info-mercial".
How many people can Rush assemble in one spot?
My point is that Popularity does NOT equal correctness. Hell, If Bin Laden had a radio station, you'd have a hundred million crazy idiots listening every day, right? Does that mean he's 5 to 10 times better than Rush? Of course not.
Audience size does not equal accuracy of content. Can we agree on that much?
You contradicted yourself within your own post. Nice.
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You contradicted yourself within your own post. Nice.
My point was that people you'd consider WRONG are able to outperform Rush.
Therefore Rush - who may be right on any things - is in no way dimished by the numbers of others.
Audience size does not equal accuracy of content. Can we agree on that much?
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My point was that people you'd consider WRONG are able to outperform Rush.
Therefore Rush - who may be right on any things - is in no way dimished by the numbers of others.
Audience size does not equal accuracy of content. Can we agree on that much?
Sure - and your constant posts about audience numbers, polls, etc, does not mean Obama is correct on what he is doing. Got it?????????
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My point was that people you'd consider WRONG are able to outperform Rush.
Therefore Rush - who may be right on any things - is in no way dimished by the numbers of others.Audience size does not equal accuracy of content. Can we agree on that much?
Hell, 54 MILLION people chose Obama as their leader. that's TRIPLE what Rush has.
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again you contradicted yourself
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Sure - and your constant posts about audience numbers, polls, etc, does not mean Obama is correct on what he is doing. Got it?????????
I agree audience means nothing.
Obama got 54 million votes, but it doesn't mean his economic plan is good or bad.
Rush gets 20 million listeners, but it doesn't mean his message is good or bad.
I get tired of hearing "So and so has X million listeners, which proves to you how correct he is".
hell, Satan could get a radio station, and most of Earth would tune in to hear what he had to say. Doesn't mean he's a good guy.
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I agree audience means nothing.
Obama got 54 million votes, but it doesn't mean his economic plan is good or bad.
Rush gets 20 million listeners, but it doesn't mean his message is good or bad.
I get tired of hearing "So and so has X million listeners, which proves to you how correct he is".
hell, Satan could get a radio station, and most of Earth would tune in to hear what he had to say. Doesn't mean he's a good guy.
It just shows that Rush is not just some radio host. He has more listerners on a daily basis than the cable shows have viewers, so he is to be taken very seriously
Obama is making a massive mistake by taking on Limbaugh..
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Whether you love or hate Rush (and I agree he can be an arrogant, obnoxious prick) he's still right (read: correct, accurate, on the money) the vast majority of the time.
And you did contradict yourself big-time by attempting to negate the point you yourself made early on in your thread.
But the simple fact remains--wayyyy more often than not Rush is right on the money and THAT'S why people listen to him ALL THE TIME versus just assembling to vote for one guy one one day because that guy offered them pie in the sky--because the truth resonates with listeners all over America.
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It just shows that Rush is not just some radio host. He has more listerners on a daily basis than the cable shows have viewers, so he is to be taken very seriously
Obama is making a massive mistake by taking on Limbaugh..
Really? Obama's begging for it. Think about it tho. Which man will more americans deal with? A minority who wants to help poor people in a time when there's a LOT of poor people, athletic and healthy, with zero criminal record, who is the epitome of anti-Bush sentiment, who champions a welfare cause in a country where the majority of Americans seem to support it?
Or a fat bald rich guy with drug please, who spent 8 years carrying water for Dubya?
Repubs would benefit from a Pawlenty or Crist being the voice of the party right now. Allowing a fat obnoxious rude "shock jock" to do it WILL NOT serve them well.
At the very least, can we agree a polite, well-spoken person would serve the Repub party goals more than a blubbering, sweaty drug felon spitting into the mic while saying he hopes Obama fails?
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Really? Obama's begging for it. Think about it tho. Which man will more americans deal with? A minority who wants to help poor people in a time when there's a LOT of poor people, athletic and healthy, with zero criminal record, who is the epitome of anti-Bush sentiment, who champions a welfare cause in a country where the majority of Americans seem to support it?
Or a fat bald rich guy with drug please, who spent 8 years carrying water for Dubya?
Repubs would benefit from a Pawlenty or Crist being the voice of the party right now. Allowing a fat obnoxious rude "shock jock" to do it WILL NOT serve them well.
At the very least, can we agree a polite, well-spoken person would serve the Repub party goals more than a blubbering, sweaty drug felon spitting into the mic while saying he hopes Obama fails?
Nonsense. The gOP needs a verbal machine gun like Newt, not some little patsy like Steele.
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because the truth resonates with listeners all over America.
20 million out of 305 million people?
That's 6.5% of Americans.
More American than that subscribe to athiesm, homosexuality, and American idol each week.
See why we can't just assign value to numbers?
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Nonsense. The gOP needs a verbal machine gun like Newt, not some little patsy like Steele.
I agree steele is a wussy.
I'm thinking a machine gun was what they had in palin, an attack dog. Mccain was tough too.
instead, people chose the calmer, cool and collected guy who didn't spit venom. that was obama. Agree or disagree with him, he brushed shit off his shoudler while palin screamed about 'pallin around with terrorists for crowds of angry rednecks.
I think a calm, likeable guy like Pawlenty or Crist delivers an alternative mesage (which many agree with) without being angry. personally, I don't want an "Angry" leader. Do you? usually it's the angry people that lose their cool in situations. If a guy can't keep his cool in debates and in interviews, how good will he be under real presidential pressure?
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I agree steele is a wussy.
I'm thinking a machine gun was what they had in palin, an attack dog. Mccain was tough too.
instead, people chose the calmer, cool and collected guy who didn't spit venom. that was obama. Agree or disagree with him, he brushed shit off his shoudler while palin screamed about 'pallin around with terrorists for crowds of angry rednecks.
I think a calm, likeable guy like Pawlenty or Crist delivers an alternative mesage (which many agree with) without being angry. personally, I don't want an "Angry" leader. Do you? usually it's the angry people that lose their cool in situations. If a guy can't keep his cool in debates and in interviews, how good will he be under real presidential pressure?
Palin and McCain dont have the verbal skills like Newt. Newt, when he gets going, is unbeatable.
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I agree steele is a wussy.
I'm thinking a machine gun was what they had in palin, an attack dog. Mccain was tough too.
instead, people chose the calmer, cool and collected guy who didn't spit venom. that was obama. Agree or disagree with him, he brushed shit off his shoudler while palin screamed about 'pallin around with terrorists for crowds of angry rednecks.
I think a calm, likeable guy like Pawlenty or Crist delivers an alternative mesage (which many agree with) without being angry. personally, I don't want an "Angry" leader. Do you? usually it's the angry people that lose their cool in situations. If a guy can't keep his cool in debates and in interviews, how good will he be under real presidential pressure?
Look , my favorite historical figure is Patton. He got crap done asap and kicked butts and was angry.
i dont like sissy panzies like steele, Crist, Pawlenty, etc. They are mushy fags who get run over by everyone.
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i dont like sissy panzies like steele, Crist, Pawlenty, etc. They are mushy fags who get run over by everyone.
angry ppl make good appointees and advisors. They are of course, very important.
However,
Presidents are cheerleaders, the velvet glove to the USA and the world, while the iron fist works behind the scenes.
Who was the last ANGRY guy to win the presidency?
Bush 1 and 2 were very soft spoken.
Clinton, laid back and hitting on chicks.
Reagan, class act.
Carter, soft.
Fored, bumbling.
Nixon, angry behind scenes but sweet public face.
Face it, in modern times, people elect someone with a moderate personality. pawlenty or Crist SHOULD surround themselves with newt and other fiery people. BUT when it comes to the voice of a party, it's the people with CONTROLLED EMOTIONS that win elections.
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I agree audience means nothing.
Obama got 54 million votes, but it doesn't mean his economic plan is good or bad.
Rush gets 20 million listeners, but it doesn't mean his message is good or bad.
I get tired of hearing "So and so has X million listeners, which proves to you how correct he is".
hell, Satan could get a radio station, and most of Earth would tune in to hear what he had to say. Doesn't mean he's a good guy.
The same wonderful argument is made by the religious. "Well Christianity has X number of beleivers".....Little do they realize that means nothing and does nothing in establishing their false claims of a mythical sky god. At one time the majority of people thought that the earth was the center of the Universe, it sure did not make it true. Keep up the good work 240 of keeping some of these intellectual midgets in line by using their own tactics against them.
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The same wonderful argument is made by the religious. "Well Christianity has X number of beleivers".....Little do they realize that means nothing and does nothing in establishing their false claims of a mythical sky god. At one time the majority of people thought that the earth was the center of the Universe, it sure did not make it true. Keep up the good work 240 of keeping some of these intellectual midgets in line by using their own tactics against them.
Did a christian guy steal your girlfriend? You always seem super butt hurt over religion.
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Did a christian guy steal your girlfriend? You always seem super butt hurt over religion.
it was a christian conservative that stole his gf
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Did a christian guy steal your girlfriend? You always seem super butt hurt over religion.
I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
It is the most destructive force, mental virus that has ever ruined and continues to ruin the world.
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I guess its good that ur in the minority on that...faith gives hope to billions of people. I'm catholic and have never been particularly religious but listening to this rubbish makes me gag.
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OH NO!!! They haven't stated the blatantly obvious......THE HORROR!!!
Of course, a bigger concern might be why the Obama administration is more obsessed with Rush Limbaugh than it is with Osama bin Laden.
I think you said it elsewhere. But, it needs to be reiterated. The people are becoming enraged about all this spending. And, now it's ALL ON OBAMA......no more blaming Bush for the country's woes (which Obama and crew love to do, as of late, when they get taken to task about this issue). We know Obama inherited a deficit. He's not getting slammed for that. He's getting slammed for spending more money in six weeks than Bush did in six years, primarily via a "stimulus" with more swine than a chain of Texas BBQ restaurants.
Hannity said this was Obamas recession
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I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
It is the most destructive force, mental virus that has ever ruined and continues to ruin the world.
Not true, while i understand your belief simple fact is there are ignorant stubborn headed ppl in every walk of life. Darwin was clergy for his church mendal for his church just to name two, some of the greatest thinkers this world has ever known where religous. Like I said I do understand your POV as i have friends that fall in line with that but there are many religous ppl such as myself that question and seek answers in everything. Like darwin said who better to investigate the wonders of Gods creations.
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I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
It is the most destructive force, mental virus that has ever ruined and continues to ruin the world.
Monster explanation. Science as a whole is still in its infancy. How many times over the past hundred years have scientists re-negged a finding because it simply wasn't true.
Look at the Egyptians, these guys believed in Gods for everything. They didn't do much huh?
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Hannity said this was Obamas recession
did he state that obama caused it or that it was his b/c he was presiding over it?
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I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
It is the most destructive force, mental virus that has ever ruined and continues to ruin the world.
Sounds like mommy and daddy shoved religion down your throat when you were younger and now you're rebelling.
I think you've got your causal relationship a little bit mixed up. Faith helps people to understand and make sense of the world. Maybe there's a lot of stupidity and superstition out there, but guess what--stupid, superstitious people are going to come up with their stupid superstitions one way or another. That's not the fault of "religion."
I'm not particularly religious right now... but I certainly have my faith in God... and I have always argued, TRUE faith should go hand-in-hand with valid, proven science--they should complement each other, not be at odds with each other. And many times scientists make just as many leaps of faith and speculation as do the "true believers" that you look down upon.
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Not true, while i understand your belief simple fact is there are ignorant stubborn headed ppl in every walk of life. Darwin was clergy for his church mendal for his church just to name two, some of the greatest thinkers this world has ever known where religous. Like I said I do understand your POV as i have friends that fall in line with that but there are many religous ppl such as myself that question and seek answers in everything. Like darwin said who better to investigate the wonders of Gods creations.
Don`t you DARE try that shit with Darwin. Here learn something about Charles Darwin and STOP SPREADING LIES AND MYTHS!
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Don`t you DARE try that shit with Darwin. Here learn something about Charles Darwin and STOP SPREADING LIES AND MYTHS!
Theoretical physics? Answer me that. That is a science based entirely on faith and speculation. How is that any different than religion? The stuff they come up with won't be proved within our lifetimes.
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Hannity said this was Obamas recession
It is his recession. He's the President; he's the man, at least until Jan. 2013.
He didn't start the fire, but he's the one dumping gas on it.
The people aren't going to tolerate the "we inherited this recession" flap much longer (no more blaming Bush).
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Charles Darwin's views on religion have been the subject of much interest. His work which was pivotal in the development of modern biology and evolution theory played a prominent part in debates about religion and science at the time, then in the early twentieth century became a focus of the creation-evolution controversy in the United States.
Charles Darwin had a non-conformist background, but attended a Church of England school.[1] With the aim of becoming a clergyman he went to the University of Cambridge for the required BA degree, which included studies of Anglican theology. He took great interest in natural history and become filled with zeal for science as defined by John Herschel, based on the natural theology of William Paley which presented the argument from divine design in nature to explain adaptation as God acting through laws of nature.[2][3] On the voyage of the Beagle he remained orthodox and looked for "centres of creation" to explain distribution, but towards the end of the voyage began to doubt that species were fixed.[4][5] By this time he was critical of the Bible as history, and wondered why all religions should not be equally valid. Following his return in October 1836, he developed his novel ideas of geology while speculating about transmutation of species and thinking about religion.[6]
Following Darwin's marriage to Emma in January 1839, they shared discussions about Christianity for several years.[7] The theodicy of Paley and Thomas Malthus vindicated evils such as starvation as a result of a benevolent creator's laws which had an overall good effect. To Darwin, Natural selection produced the good of adaptation but removed the need for design,[8] and he could not see the work of an omnipotent deity in all the pain and suffering such as the ichneumon wasp paralysing caterpillars as live food for its eggs.[9] He still viewed organisms as perfectly adapted, and On the Origin of Species reflects theological views. Though he thought of religion as a tribal survival strategy, Darwin still believed that God was the ultimate lawgiver,[10][11] and later recollected that at the time he was convinced of the existence of God as a First Cause and deserved to be called a theist. This view subsequently fluctuated,[12] and he continued to explore conscientious doubts, without forming fixed opinions on certain religious matters.[7]
Darwin continued to play a leading part in the parish work of the local church,[13] but from around 1849 would go for a walk on Sundays while his family attended church.[14] Though reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God, and that generally “an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind.”[7] He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."[15]
It would appear Darwin felt that belief in God was a personal matter and would disagree with ur babbling nonsense. His family went to church, he did not...I'm sure he didn't belittle his wife and family for attending.
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running to the gym adonis but will watch when i get back
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Evolution is faith based as well dude. Think about it Adonis. You may see micro-evolutionary changes, I dont think anyone is arguing with that. Large scale evolutionary changes are what people debate. We can't observe them, therefore they are based upon faith correct?
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running to the gym adonis but will watch when i get back
You will enjoy it greatly. Headhunter6 could benefit also from learning about Darwin. There are more parts then I posted, but can be found easily as you watch those. It is the best Documentary on Darwin to date.
Headhunter6, you need to learn a bit more about Darwin because you will not understand his relationship with Huxley and how they vehemently derided religion as a blockade to science.
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You will enjoy it greatly. Headhunter6 could benefit also from learning about Darwin. There are more parts then I posted, but can be found easily as you watch those. It is the best Documentary on Darwin to date.
Headhunter6, you need to learn a bit more about Darwin because you will not understand his relationship with Huxley and how they vehemently derided religion as a blockade to science.
Read my above posts on faith. Faith in science is real.
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Evolution is faith based as well dude. Think about it Adonis. You may see micro-evolutionary changes, I dont think anyone is arguing with that. Large scale evolutionary changes are what people debate. We can't observe them, therefore they are based upon faith correct?
We certainly can observe long term changes through DNA, Fossil Records, geological dating, genetic variance, mutation and speciation to name a few. There is nothing debatable, no faith involved.
We can easily watch fruitflys and especially viruses evolve given their lifespans are so short. I am trying to be as simplistic as I can here, but there is nothing faith based at all.
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Read my above posts on faith. Faith in science is real.
Science is not faith based whatsoever. Theoretical Physics is based off mathematical models and observed evidence to explain experimental data. Again, this is rather simplistic as Theoretical Physics encompasses a broad range of subjects
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You will enjoy it greatly. Headhunter6 could benefit also from learning about Darwin. There are more parts then I posted, but can be found easily as you watch those. It is the best Documentary on Darwin to date.
Headhunter6, you need to learn a bit more about Darwin because you will not understand his relationship with Huxley and how they vehemently derided religion as a blockade to science.
I'd have to care first and I don't.
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Just the most popular host in the nation with 20 million idiots.
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Rush won in this last election and has won EVERYDAY since Obama was elected.He has been right on every prediction for Obama and was one of the few who said Obamas destruction of the country was on purpose.