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Chris Brown charged with 2 felonies
03/05/2009 3:10 PM, AP
Derrik J. Lang
Chris Brown has been charged with two felonies stemming from what a police detective describes as a brutal argument between the singer and his girlfriend, Rihanna, provoked by her discovery of a text message from another woman.
Brown is expected to be arraigned Thursday afternoon on charges of assault likely to cause great bodily injury and making criminal threats. The 19-year-old R&B singer remains free on $50,000 bail.
The felony complaint handed down in court Thursday morning identifies Brown's alleged victim only as "Robyn F." Rihanna's real name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.
If convicted, the possible sentence ranges anywhere from probation to four years and eight months in state prison, said district attorney's spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons.
According to a detective's affidavit, Brown and Rihanna got into a fight early Feb. 8 after the "Umbrella" singer checked her boyfriend's cell phone and found a text message from another woman.
Brown pulled his car over and tried to push Rihanna out, but she was still wearing her seatbelt, Los Angeles police Detective De Shon Andrews wrote. He said Brown pushed Rihanna's head against the window, punched her with his right hand, and then continued driving while hitting her, the affidavit states. He also bit his girlfriend on the ear, the affidavit states.
The affidavit was filed as part of a search warrant request for the phone records of Brown, Rihanna and her assistant.
Brown allegedly threatened to kill Rihanna after she pretended to leave a phone message with her assistant, telling her to have the police waiting at her house.
Andrews described Brown's blows as causing Rihanna's mouth to fill with blood. He also writes that Brown tried to choke Rihanna after she took the keys to his car away. Andrews wrote that Rihanna nearly lost consciousness but also tried to fight back while in the car, at one point trying to gouge at Brown's eyes.
Brown was arrested hours later and booked him on suspicion of making criminal threats. Police said at the time a woman identified Brown as her attacker during an early morning dispute in an upscale Los Angeles neighborhood.
A phone message left for Brown's attorney, Mark Geragos, was not immediately returned Thursday. Brown's publicist Tony Knight said any statement would likely come from Geragos after today's hearing.
Rihanna's spokesperson had no comment on the charges filed against Brown.
Brown issued a statement a week after the incident saying that he was "sorry and saddened" about the incident. Rihanna also later issued a statement, saying she wouldn't comment on the alleged beating at the request of authorities. She thanked fans for their support.
Brown's arrest has seriously damaged the "Run It!" singer's squeaky-clean image, and compelled sponsors to drop him or not renew his deals.
The alleged attack also came hours before the couple were scheduled to appear and perform at the Grammy Awards. Both were no-shows for event.
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dumbass rhinna will now testify she ran into a doorknob repeatedly.
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dumbass rhinna will now testify she ran into a doorknob repeatedly.
Well, she wouldn't want her new husband go to jail, no?
::) ::)
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hahahaha, "i fell down the stairs". ;D
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Yup no jail time they are back together and the state won't have a case with out Rihanna testifying.
jt
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Hahaha - what a stupid bitch - she deserves everything she gets from now on.
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Hahaha - what a stupid bitch - she deserves everything she gets from now on.
i see her killed in 3 years and Chris Brown going to death row, rapping three albums through the telephone.
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Who is to say that Rhianna didn`t start this with hitting him first?
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Who is to say that Rhianna didn`t start this with hitting him first?
Well he sure did 'finish' it ...
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Who is to say that Rhianna didn`t start this with hitting him first?
I'm quite willing to bet that she probably did - it's just that it's always the guy who gets the flack when he hits back.
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I'm quite willing to bet that she probably did - it's just that it's always the guy who gets the flack when he hits back.
I would find him innocent if I was on the Jury if that were the case.
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when will women learn its not ok to sneak your phone and go through your text messages? and then 'pretend' to call the cops on him?
not surprising he was pissed, hopefully she learned her lesson, dumb tart.
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I would find him innocent if I was on the Jury if that were the case.
You think it's OK for a man to hit a woman? ???
lol
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You think it's OK for a man to hit a woman? ???
lol
Everyone has the right to defend themselves regardless of sex in my opinion. He was driving a Lamborghini. Perhaps as she was yelling and beating on Chris, this put them both in danger on the road. He tried to push her out of the car initially to stop any further escalation. She wouldn`t get out. I am sure he kept telling her to get out. Yet she remained. Perhaps Chris felt that they were in danger of a dangerous accident and subduing her was the only measure. Its not like she wouldn`t have been able to get picked up by her assistant or get help any other way. The smart thing Chris Brown would do is file a counter charge of assault against her, that is if the prosecutor gets overzealous or if Rhianna decides she wants to ruin Chris Brown. Its obvious she does not want to at this point, so all should be well. They handled it amongst themselves. Now we just have to waste tax payer dollars going through those pointless motions.
Besides, for all we know Rhianna bench presses more or has better fighting skills than Skinny Chris Brown.
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I don't know....
I would think a man could handle her without hitting her in the face, I could. :-\
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that black fuck doesnt deserve any better. she needs someone to beat herself up from time to time.
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I don't know....
I would think a man could handle her without hitting her in the face, I could. :-\
Never underestimate an enraged woman. Heav'n has no rage like love to hatred turn'd
Nor Hell a fury, like a woman scorn'd.
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There is no innocent party here in my opinion.
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I don't know....
I would think a man could handle her without hitting her in the face, I could. :-\
Well you are limited to what you can hit given the dimensions of the cockpit in a Lamborghini. The center console that divides the passenger and the driver disallows leg strikes or a good rabbit punch. Face is your best target.
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Yes, he's innocent. While still having her seat belt, he smashed her head against a window and punched her in the face. I'm sure she was really laying into him while being strapped down. ::)
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Six of one, half a dozen of the other with those two. Let em fucking kill each other that's what I say.
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There is no innocent party here in my opinion.
i can imagine shes the kind of whore that drives you crazy and provoke violence. just standing an inch away from you with the attitude and still thinks you cant make her anything because shes a woman ::)
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Yes, he's innocent. While still having her seat belt, he smashed her head against a window and punched her in the face. I'm sure she was really laying into him while being strapped down. ::)
No shit. How about just pulling over, taking the keys from the ignition and walking away.
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You think it's OK for a man to hit a woman? ???
lol
fuck yeah!
No shit. How about just pulling over, taking the keys from the ignition and walking away.
What the fuck?! It is his car, walk away from where? She should walk home if anything, that is like saying if a burglar comes in your house abandon your house and walk away....??? What is wrong with you simps.
jt
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Time for some hard data:
http://www.batteredmen.com/batfact.htm
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fuck yeah!
What the fuck?! It is his car, walk away from where? She should walk home if anything, that is like saying if a burglar comes in your house abandon your house and walk away....??? What is wrong with you simps.
jt
She's not going anywhere, and this is not a case of mortal danger ie. defending your family in the home. Why the blood lust?
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i see her killed in 3 years and Chris Brown going to death row, rapping three albums through the telephone.
yep, she is either gonna get beaten again or killed. The "I don't want to ruin his career " bullshit is heard many a times. Care more about the dude's career than your own health...get ready for the rumble in a few yrs.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129375
1: Psychol Rep. 1997 Apr;80(2):583-90.Links
College women who initiate assaults on their male partners and the reasons offered for such behavior.
Fiebert MS, Gonzalez DM.
Department of Psychology, California State University, Long Beach 90840, USA. mfiebert@CSULB.edu
Studies of spousal and dating violence indicate that women are as likely as men to assault their partners physically. This investigation examined the issue of the initiation of physical assaults by women on their male partners and the reasons offered for such behavior. Response from 978 female college women indicate that, within a 5-yr. period, 29% (n = 285) admitted to physical aggression against their male partners. Younger women in their 20's were significantly more likely to aggress physically than women who were 30 yr, and above. Women stated that they expressed aggression toward their male partners in part because they wished to engage their partner's attention, particularly emotionally. Also assaultive women did not believe that their male victims would be seriously injured or would retaliate.
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fuck yeah!
What the fuck?! It is his car, walk away from where? She should walk home if anything, that is like saying if a burglar comes in your house abandon your house and walk away....??? What is wrong with you simps.
jt
Because your defense looks really good when it turns out that you were beating up a women held down by her seat belt. Foolish Muslim, this is America. You don't get rewarded for beating women here.
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the women in usa know that too :-\
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Deeper Reasons Women Selected for Initiating Aggression
from Fiebert, Martin S. and Gonzalez, Denise M., "College Women who Initiate Assaults on their Male Partners and the Reasons offered for Such Behavior
Psychological Reports, 1997, 80, 583-90, Table 3. © Psychological Reports, 1997
Item # Deeper Reason: Item % n
11 Other 65% 153
10 I believe that men can readily protect themselves so I don't worry when I become physically aggressive. 24% 56
2 I have found that most men have been trained not to hit a woman, and therefore I am not fearful of retaliation from my partner. 19% 45
8 I believe if women truly are equal to men then women should be able to physically express anger at men. 13% 31
9 I feel personally empowered when I behave aggressively against my partner. 12% 29
7 I learned when growing up that I could be physically aggressive toward my brother and he would not fight back. 10% 24
5 I sometimes find when I express my anger physically I become turned on sexually. 8% 19
6 My mother would, at times, be physically aggressive to my father or my stepfather. 8% 18
4 I believe it is important and healthy to physically express anger particularly in a personal relationship. 6% 15
1 I believe that women are in charge in a domestic situation and have the right to strike their partners if they break the rules. 6% 14
3 I have seen and admired women in the movies, and on TV, who strike their partners. 3% 8
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Hahaha - what a stupid bitch - she deserves everything she gets from now on.
Oh so so so so so sad.
But quite fucking true! :-\ :-X >:( ::)
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Because your defense looks really good when it turns out that you were beating up a women held down by her seat belt. Foolish Muslim, this is America. You don't get rewarded for beating women here.
Chris also was wearing a seatbelt.
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she also has the face to be beaten on. the short feministic haircut tells it all.
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yep, she is either gonna get beaten again or killed. The "I don't want to ruin his career " bullshit is heard many a times. Care more about the dude's career than your own health...get ready for the rumble in a few yrs.
hahhah you guys are so overreacting to a man putting a woman in a womans place. She attacks him in his car potentially causing him to wreck and die, he smacks her around a little for the disrespect and all the sudden he is a murderer???!! Only in America, land of the metrosexual.
jt
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hahhah you guys are so overreacting to a man putting a woman in a womans place. She attacks him in his car potentially causing him to wreck and die, he smacks her around a little for the disrespect and all the sudden he is a murderer???!! Only in America, land of the metrosexual.
jt
LOL. Bluto talking tough, now. ;D
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hahhah you guys are so overreacting to a man putting a woman in a womans place. She attacks him in his car potentially causing him to wreck and die, he smacks her around a little for the disrespect and all the sudden he is a murderer???!! Only in America, land of the metrosexual.
jt
How do we know she attacked him in the car? Your Assuming, she went thru his cell phone and got mad at a text he recieved from another woman.
I believe Christina Millian went thru the same issue (the cell phone deal)
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hahhah you guys are so overreacting to a man putting a woman in a womans place. She attacks him in his car potentially causing him to wreck and die, he smacks her around a little for the disrespect and all the sudden he is a murderer???!! Only in America, land of the metrosexual.
jt
hahaha good post. ;D
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Who is to say that Rhianna didn`t start this with hitting him first?
Exactly.
Let me tell you what happened.
She BROKE his privacy, took his phone, Looked up a message, got mad, threw the phone at him in the car, He almost crashed, he tried to keep her away from him in the car so he wouldnt actually crash.
He finally stop the car when She all of a sudden grabbes HIS keys, and he tried to take them back while she was screaming like a crazy bitch.
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U just noticed you kinda wrote the exact same thing but explained it better lol.
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Yup no jail time they are back together and the state won't have a case with out Rihanna testifying.
jt
Once again Your woman hating is getting in the way of normal thoughts. 1st off ..In any abuse case ,the state takes over the case ..Which means ..They do not need Riannahs testimony..Let me make this a little easier for you to understand..Alot of women get abused ..Then the spoue sweet talks them.The charges get dropeed ,then the spouse that drops the charges gets killed ,or almost 99% of the time gets beat up again.. But not anymore .. Riannah doesn't have a choice..All tha statements that needed to be taken were taken..Hers and the witnesses ..Chris also amitted to hitting her,no?
Chris most probably won't do a day in jail..Maybe probation,community service ,and a fine..But I doubt he'll to any time at all... Unless they decide to make an example out of him!?
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Havy you ever delt when a crazy woman?
She thought he was cheating, I can just imagine how that bitch got crazy.
She should be charged with putting chris live in danger while he was driving. Fucking slut.
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Who is to say that Rhianna didn`t start this with hitting him first?
would it make a difference? unless it's a she-beast, men should not lay a hand on women...
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would it make a difference? unless it's a she-beast, men should not lay a hand on women...
I disagree. People, regardless of sex, should be able to defend themselves if they feel their life in danger, threatened or at risk of harm.
Women can be just as brutal as men when it comes to domestic violence and is quite a huge problem in our society.
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fuck yeah!
What the fuck?! It is his car, walk away from where? She should walk home if anything, that is like saying if a burglar comes in your house abandon your house and walk away....??? What is wrong with you simps.
jt
You're a f a g g o t, you're opinion on this matter is invalid.
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Once again Your woman hating is getting in the way of normal thoughts. 1st off ..In any abuse case ,the state takes over the case ..Which means ..They do not need Riannahs testimony..Let me make this a little easier for you to understand..Alot of women get abused ..Then the spoue sweet talks them.The charges get dropeed ,then the spouse that drops the charges gets killed ,or almost 99% of the time gets beat up again.. But not anymore .. Riannah doesn't have a choice..All tha statements that needed to be taken were taken..Hers and the witnesses ..Chris also amitted to hitting her,no?
Chris most probably won't do a day in jail..Maybe probation,community service ,and a fine..But I doubt he'll to any time at all... Unless they decide to make an example out of him!?
Without her testimony Chris will get off. She is not going to testify for the prosecution, I wasn't clear in my original post.
jt
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You're a f a g g o t, you're opinion on this matter is invalid.
and your a simp ;D
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and your a simp ;D
Let's agree to disagree, I can't disrespect a fellow webcke disciple.
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these negroidals should've killed each other, like they tend to do, but not often enough.
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these negroidals should've killed each other, like they tend to do, but not often enough.
Actually, whites own the majority of Domestic Violence.
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Actually, whites own the majority of Domestic Violence.
Domestic violence I have no problems with. It's the "public" violence that upsets me.
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Also, to add on, of course whites do most of the domestic violence, cuz negro men run away "soon'z they impregnates a bitch".
Fucking scumbags.
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Interesting take on the criminal justice system.
If you are a juror, you can either find a defendant "not guilty" or "guilty".
A jury does not find any defendant "innocent".
Large difference between "not guilty" and "innocent".
Finding him innocent of the charges presented results in a not guilty verdict. You mean to tell us that you are so dim that you were unable to make that connection, that leap in logic? :o
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Interesting take on the criminal justice system.
If you are a juror, you can either find a defendant "not guilty" or "guilty".
A jury does not find any defendant "innocent".
Large difference between "not guilty" and "innocent".
That's why the canny Scots have their 'not proven' verdict.
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Dim?
Interesting.
Show me, in any Federal Code, Statute, State Statute or Criminal Code, Model Jury Charges, etc., wherein it states that a jury rendering a "not guilty" verdict is equivalent to a finding of innocence.
Adonis, I have read many posts of yours over the time I have spent here, and I find you to be a decently intelligent human being.
However, with that being said, your grasp of the criminal justice system is quite different than mine.
Are you semantically fooled frequently? As a juror I would view the evidence, find him innocent of the charges and render a not guilty verdict. I figured you capable of making that logical connection without me being so juvenile and in my opinion, unncessarily specific.
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The justice system does not see it as symantics, trust me.
In the first year of law school, they tell all 1L's, in their mandatory Criminal Procedure course, that there is an almost infinite difference between "not guilty" and innocent.
Take the O.J. Simpson murder trial, for example.
The jury did not convict him guilty of murder, because that panel did not feel the State met their burden of proof, which is to find Mr. Simpson guilty of murder "beyond a reasonable doubt". By no means did they find or hold that O.J. Simpson was "innocent". That simply is not their charge, nor does it conform to the oath that each individual juror takes.
A separate jury, viewing the same facts before them, but presented in a civil trial, found O.J. Simpson guilty of wrongful death. Now, the standard in a civil trial is a "preponderance of the evidence" standard, which is tipping the scales of justice ever so slightly in favor of the plaintiff (in this case, the estate of Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson).
Do you want me to keep going?
Why bother. Given the evidence, Chris Brown is not guilty and therefore innocent of the charges brought against him. Innocent of Assualt since he cannot be tried again for that crime. Again, do I REALLY have to be THAT specific. You want to state the obvious. I don`t feel lit is necessary.
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It's an interesting argument.
if a woman slaps you once, then you walk away, right? that one is easy..
If a woman hits you with her fist a 2nd and third time, and your nose is spurting blood and you just lost your front two teeth... well, what do you do?
What do you do it you're on the street and a female stranger punches you a few times and tries to steal your wallet? how many times are you struck in the face before you raise your hand back?
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It's an interesting argument.
if a woman slaps you once, then you walk away, right? that one is easy..
No, if a woman hits you you slap her back or push her away ...Hard.
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No, if a woman hits you you slap her back or push her away ...Hard.
that's assault. In the USA, you're in handcuffs for that. And if she's little and you lift, she will probably be on her ass, or worse, with her head cracked open.
You can't hit a woman in this society. Rule #1 is that you walk away from the slap. i've done it. not easy, but it sure beats jail. You walk away and you never call that girl again.
now, if she hits you 2 or 4 times and your face is jacked, that's when the debate gets difficult.
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TA, trust me I see where you are coming from.
You are bringing a layman's opinion, possibly a valid one at that, to a situation that will eventually require a legal opinion. Sometimes, although it would seem logical, the two are not in equipoise (not the drug, and pun not intended).
There are valid defenses to assault, whether the charges are for simple or aggravated:
Self defense
Mutual engagement in assault (in my state, this is a petty disorderly persons offense, thus no real prospect of jail time)
Obviously, the State would need to have the alleged victim testify, would have to make sure all evidence (photos, etc.) are properly authenticated so that they can be moved into evidence, etc.
The State would not have to necessarily have the victim testify in all cases, if the defendant knowingly, intelligently and voluntarily waived his "Miranda" rights, and gave admissions to elements of the crime alleged.
Not guilty. PJC. Or downgrading of the charges and a plea or an outright dismissal.
That is my final verdict.
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that's assault. In the USA, you're in handcuffs for that. And if she's little and you lift, she will probably be on her ass, or worse, with her head cracked open.
You can't hit a woman in this society. Rule #1 is that you walk away from the slap. i've done it. not easy, but it sure beats jail. You walk away and you never call that girl again.
now, if she hits you 2 or 4 times and your face is jacked, that's when the debate gets difficult.
I have learned the best defense against assault is to race down to the Magistrates office, preferably before you are charged, and try to take a counter warrant. Not from MY experience of course, but I have seen it happen with friends many times. Makes it harder to prove one way or the other in either case. Wastes a lot of time and money to the court system (tax payers) though.
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There may also be "diversionary programs" available to Mr. Brown, so that if/when he successfully completes the program (usually anywhere between 6 and 18 months), the charges are formally dismissed.
The advantage to such a program is that the defendant does not have to enter a plea of guilt to any charges.
Which will most likely be offered since he has zero priors. They call it Felony Diversion Program here.
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You can tell you are from the South, as you use the term "Magistrate".
That strategy can be helpful, but can also turn around to harm you, if in fact you show no signs of the "assault" and the cross-complainant does. Certainly, you would be in a better position to sign that cross or counter complaint if you have witnesses who clearly saw the other person instigate or initiate the altercation.
However, from my experience, in the instance of a man vs. woman, the officers will almost always side with the female, unless the male is showing signs of harm.
Right, they are to be addressed as Magistrates here and have a big office that with a sign that says "Magistrate`s office". There is always at least one on duty 24 hours a day. I have yet to see any of the people I know have an Assault on a Female charge (which is a separate charge in NC) stick, even though in a lot of the cases I have seen, they were indeed guilty. Of course I could go into the reasons of each case I have observed as each are different, but it really is not necessary.
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It's an interesting argument.
if a woman slaps you once, then you walk away, right? that one is easy..
If a woman hits you with her fist a 2nd and third time, and your nose is spurting blood and you just lost your front two teeth... well, what do you do?
What do you do it you're on the street and a female stranger punches you a few times and tries to steal your wallet? how many times are you struck in the face before you raise your hand back?
better to be known as the guy that hit a woman, than the guy that let a woman beat him up
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Depends, really.
There are many factors that have to be weighed by the Criminal Division Manager, and then the County Prosecutor/DA, before Diversion is offered. Diversionary Programs are typically prosecutorial programs, and are thus offered/rejected in the discretion of the Prosecutor.
The media attention that this case will no doubt receive may harm Mr. Brown's chances of getting a Diversionary Program, as we may have motivations similar and reminiscent of the Duke "rape" scandal.
Totally unfair in my opinion if a Diversion Program gets rejected. If he was just some Schmoe on the street, little doubt that they wouldn`t offer it.
Same with Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie or Lindsay Lohan. They get unfairly treated in my opinion.
My friend had 5 DUI`s in a time span of 3 years. 3 Occuring within a month apart. Never spent a day in Jail. Never did community service. He lost his liscense for 5 years. To circumvent this, he established residence in a different state, got a Liscence then drove back and forth. He then had a review board in the state where he lost his liscense re-instate his liscense based on character witnesses and evidence that he has stopped drinking and driving. So he got his liscense back.
Guess what. He hasn`t stopped drinking and driving. LOL
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better to be known as the guy that hit a woman, than the guy that let a woman beat him up
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;D ;D ;D
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I disagree. People, regardless of sex, should be able to defend themselves if they feel their life in danger, threatened or at risk of harm.
Women can be just as brutal as men when it comes to domestic violence and is quite a huge problem in our society.
You'll have no argument from me on how much more aggressive women can be regarding physical violence. I've dated some true psychos in my day. Jealous biatches that go apeshit over anything and everything. But, never have I had to resort to an overhand right to the forehead or a straight left to the mouth. Judging from the pics of Rhianna, Chris Brown must have landed a series of unanswered combos. She looked worse than GSP after his 1st fight with BJ.
If a psycho skank attacks you, it's very easy to defend yourself by putting them in what I call the "position". This is where you put them on their back, put their legs over their head and hold them by the ankles until they calm down. No need to throw fists.
Now, if they've used even a single gram of test, all bets are off. As far as I'm concerned, they are now a dude and you can let your hands, knees, elbows, etc. go.
just my $0.02...
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so when a girl hits a guy its ok but when a guy hits a girl who provoked him its not okay.
wtf you cant be serious. women have been fighting many years for that equal rights bullshit. so its only equal that if a girl hits him he can short hand close line her.
what ever happened to the right to defend yourself. im with chris brown on this if a girl ever laid a finger on me i will hit her as many times as she hits me
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My brother's ex girlfriend (the 25 yr old who had sex with over 100 guys) is riding in the passenger seat with her new boyfriend and his brother all drunk coming home from the bar. They get in an argument and she starts hitting him, then he dares her to hit him one more time, she does, and he unloads on her, breaks her nose, then proceeds to pull over to the median of the highway, get out of the car with his brother and take off running. She then takes his car and drives off bloody. I'm sure that bitch deserved it, but she looked bad in the photos.
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that's assault. In the USA, you're in handcuffs for that. And if she's little and you lift, she will probably be on her ass, or worse, with her head cracked open.
You can't hit a woman in this society. Rule #1 is that you walk away from the slap. i've done it. not easy, but it sure beats jail. You walk away and you never call that girl again.
now, if she hits you 2 or 4 times and your face is jacked, that's when the debate gets difficult.
Wrong, it is called defending yourself, if she hits you first you have every right to hit her back. The police don't go off this whole shtick that you shouldn't hit a girl shit, prime example look at the recent video of the cop laying the smack down on the mouthy bitch in the jail cell.
jt
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Wrong, it is called defending yourself, if she hits you first you have every right to hit her back.
9 times out of 10...
if both the man and woman have busted faces...
and both say the other started it...
The man is spending the night in lockup. bullshit, but reality.
(if there are witnesses, it's a diff story)
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9 times out of 10...
if both the man and woman have busted faces...
and both say the other started it...
The man is spending the night in lockup. bullshit, but reality.
(if there are witnesses, it's a diff story)
your in Florida, depends where you live, but you are right. That doesn't mean he will be convicted, but he will prolly have to spend the night in jail.
jt
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all "evidence" that is in the public is that which has been selected & presented by the media..... so until formal trial begins,,, very few have the full story......
BUT that being said..... the little boy (b!tch) that is chris brown........ get real, your on your way to an awards show..... if the girl is jealous because you may be cheating.... consider yourself lucky that she " cares " somewhat for you....
the guy is 19.... young people get hot & make mistakes, especially young w/ fame & $$$.... look at tyson ( even though he may have been unjustly accused many times.... he did get a lil' crazy sometimes but like he said... if he hit robyn givens, she woulda had long term damage so )......
now.... every guy & girl on here know that men & yes women can be aggressive..... Adonis posted some interesting studies in regards to females being aggresive..... and no one needs a study to know that sometimes a girl will strike a man in hopes to provoke an outcome.... what ever it may be.... attention, de-masculinization... what ev.....
chris brown is a punk..... pure and simple...... IMO
a real man would be concerned that if he hit a girl he may really seriously injur or kill her, hence why real men don't hit women..... and that punks worst beating messed up her face bad yeah but if he were hitting a guy..... brown would been the one busted up..... and whether he was hit or not..... suck it up pansy and take it..... then dump her never see or speak with her again..... if she hit you first.... walk away like 240 said....... and if you wanna be punk..... go and take pictures of where you got "hit" if there are any marks from a girl hit at all and press charges on here.....
even if she was beating him bloody..... there could have been another way to subdue her...... obviously she didn't hurt him too bad .... where are his bruises? if he had them he would have presented them as evidence already.
basically it was a one sided chick fight...... she (chris brown) won and he is gonna claim his title....... punk a$$ state property....
Guys, they got out of the car and he continued to beat her ...she was running away... get real..... we're not talking about a single slap here guys....... which is still not ok..... because if thats how you keep your women in "check" then you won't have a girl for long... boy's (girls) like that have no clue as what it is to be a man and to have a woman
he oughta get incarcerated for at least a year...... so he can be a "real tough guy"....
then he can rap about how good that jail house d!c tastes.... when he's getting his $hit pushed in.
he is the epitome of loser.
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a real man would be concerned that if he hit a girl he may really seriously injur or kill her, hence why real men don't hit women.....
Well said, he and anyone else who has ever hit a women is nothing more than a bitch.
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Well said, he and anyone else who has ever hit a women is nothing more than a bitch.
lol who are you Mike Tyson, no dude is going to kill a girl hitting her. Physically they are almost identical to men except different hormones and sexual organs. Girls are just as tough as men, don't let them trick you.
jt
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9 times out of 10...
if both the man and woman have busted faces...
and both say the other started it...
The man is spending the night in lockup. bullshit, but reality.
(if there are witnesses, it's a diff story)
sometimes witnesses will jump in to save the poor "damsel in distress" by kicking the guys ass
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lol who are you Mike Tyson, no dude is going to kill a girl hitting her. Physically they are almost identical to men except different hormones and sexual organs. Girls are just as tough as men, don't let them trick you.
jt
no tricks.... maybe he's just a guy who knows his strength.... high percentage of the time... guy have stronger upper bodies and girls have stronger lower bodies... generally..... girls are certainly tougher in the mental and even emotion but not as strong as men physically..... millions of years of evolution.... if they were really that strong or stronger than men they would have been the ones hunting and men would have stayed in the cave cleaning and cooking. otherwise , rianna is probally stronger than chris brown so in this case you may be right jt.
and everyone on this board knows hormones can make a bit of a difference.
and jt..... some guys can hit hard like tyson too. it only takes one good punch..... there are evens situations were someone throws a punch and the person that got hit falls downs, cracks their head open and..... when you let out violence things could take a wrong turn quick.... even in a freak accident.
c'mon guys.... you want a girl to worship the ground you walk on because you can beat her or just because she respects and loves you.
surprising how many people on a bodybuilding / weightlifting board / community... one of which strength is revered and sought after.. and some people are sympathetic to a wimp that beat a girl and continued to chase her down after she got out of the car... running away from the beating.
is there any guy on this board that would condone the beating that girl took if it happened to their own mother, sister, wife, girl , daughter, etc....
or who know what kind of beating she took but look at how she ended up. (if those photos weren't doctored, or she was wearing make-up, anything is possible but prob unlikely scenario)....
maybe some guys are kidding when they stick up for the "boy" but there seem to be others that are seriously defending him.... hey thats okay because everyone is innocent until proven otherwise and everyone is entitled to legal rep..... defense lawyers on here would concur and it's their job to defend by proving reasonable doubt.... b/c the burden is on the state to prove beyond the shadow so...... I don't know the whole story but unless she had a gun to his head..... he didn't have to use "excessive" force that caused that kind of damage.... eye witness called 911 and say him chasin her..... thats like in a sanctioned fight hitting when the man is down... get real.
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sometimes witnesses will jump in to save the poor "damsel in distress" by kicking the guys ass
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and that is always the wrong thing to do....we already had a thread about this.
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and that is always the wrong thing to do....we already had a thread about this.
true jt
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all "evidence" that is in the public is that which has been selected & presented by the media..... so until formal trial begins,,, very few have the full story......
BUT that being said..... the little boy (b!tch) that is chris brown........ get real, your on your way to an awards show..... if the girl is jealous because you may be cheating.... consider yourself lucky that she " cares " somewhat for you....
the guy is 19.... young people get hot & make mistakes, especially young w/ fame & $$$.... look at tyson ( even though he may have been unjustly accused many times.... he did get a lil' crazy sometimes but like he said... if he hit robyn givens, she woulda had long term damage so )......
now.... every guy & girl on here know that men & yes women can be aggressive..... Adonis posted some interesting studies in regards to females being aggresive..... and no one needs a study to know that sometimes a girl will strike a man in hopes to provoke an outcome.... what ever it may be.... attention, de-masculinization... what ev.....
chris brown is a punk..... pure and simple...... IMO
a real man would be concerned that if he hit a girl he may really seriously injur or kill her, hence why real men don't hit women..... and that punks worst beating messed up her face bad yeah but if he were hitting a guy..... brown would been the one busted up..... and whether he was hit or not..... suck it up pansy and take it..... then dump her never see or speak with her again..... if she hit you first.... walk away like 240 said....... and if you wanna be punk..... go and take pictures of where you got "hit" if there are any marks from a girl hit at all and press charges on here.....
even if she was beating him bloody..... there could have been another way to subdue her...... obviously she didn't hurt him too bad .... where are his bruises? if he had them he would have presented them as evidence already.
basically it was a one sided chick fight...... she (chris brown) won and he is gonna claim his title....... punk a$$ state property....
Guys, they got out of the car and he continued to beat her ...she was running away... get real..... we're not talking about a single slap here guys....... which is still not ok..... because if thats how you keep your women in "check" then you won't have a girl for long... boy's (girls) like that have no clue as what it is to be a man and to have a woman
he oughta get incarcerated for at least a year...... so he can be a "real tough guy"....
then he can rap about how good that jail house d!c tastes.... when he's getting his $hit pushed in.
he is the epitome of loser.
you need to have your testicles revoked if you would walk away from a female hitting you other than your mother
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no tricks.... maybe he's just a guy who knows his strength.... high percentage of the time... guy have stronger upper bodies and girls have stronger lower bodies... generally..... girls are certainly tougher in the mental and even emotion but not as strong as men physically..... millions of years of evolution.... if they were really that strong or stronger than men they would have been the ones hunting and men would have stayed in the cave cleaning and cooking. otherwise , rianna is probally stronger than chris brown so in this case you may be right jt.
and everyone on this board knows hormones can make a bit of a difference.
and jt..... some guys can hit hard like tyson too. it only takes one good punch..... there are evens situations were someone throws a punch and the person that got hit falls downs, cracks their head open and..... when you let out violence things could take a wrong turn quick.... even in a freak accident.
c'mon guys.... you want a girl to worship the ground you walk on because you can beat her or just because she respects and loves you.
surprising how many people on a bodybuilding / weightlifting board / community... one of which strength is revered and sought after.. and some people are sympathetic to a wimp that beat a girl and continued to chase her down after she got out of the car... running away from the beating.
is there any guy on this board that would condone the beating that girl took if it happened to their own mother, sister, wife, girl , daughter, etc....
or who know what kind of beating she took but look at how she ended up. (if those photos weren't doctored, or she was wearing make-up, anything is possible but prob unlikely scenario)....
maybe some guys are kidding when they stick up for the "boy" but there seem to be others that are seriously defending him.... hey thats okay because everyone is innocent until proven otherwise and everyone is entitled to legal rep..... defense lawyers on here would concur and it's their job to defend by proving reasonable doubt.... b/c the burden is on the state to prove beyond the shadow so...... I don't know the whole story but unless she had a gun to his head..... he didn't have to use "excessive" force that caused that kind of damage.... eye witness called 911 and say him chasin her..... thats like in a sanctioned fight hitting when the man is down... get real.
We can't really talk about the story truly until we know exactly what happened, but that probably will never come out. But if in fact he layed a beat down on her then chased her to lay another beat down on her, that I do not condone, yeah it is like kicking someone when they are down.
You are very smart about women hunting etc long ago, and men stayed in. Good point and great post.
you need to have your testicles revoked if you would walk away from a female hitting you other than your mother
agreed
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No one really knows what happened except for Rihanna and Chris Brown. Seeing as he busted up her face and she's gotten back with him (and some reports say they got married this past weekend), I say good for the both of them. It sounds like they have found a perfect match for each other. If the girl wants to be with a guy who knocks her around, GREAT! She has the ability to leave him at any time, and she has chosen to stick with him. Who are we to judge?
Shit, this is getbig...
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you need to have your testicles revoked if you would walk away from a female hitting you other than your mother
you gotta be smart sometimes.
you slept with a crazy person. She's violent and pissy, you knew that going in.
if she slaps you, ya gotta walk - or run - away.
let your ego take the hit, and keep your ass outta jail.
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you gotta be smart sometimes.
you slept with a crazy person. She's violent and pissy, you knew that going in.
if she slaps you, ya gotta walk - or run - away.
let your ego take the hit, and keep your ass outta jail.
If she hits you first she is the instigator and you can defend yourself, the law doesn't have different laws for the sexes, a woman assaulting someone is the same as a man assaulting someone.
jt
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Right, they are to be addressed as Magistrates here and have a big office that with a sign that says "Magistrate`s office". There is always at least one on duty 24 hours a day. I have yet to see any of the people I know have an Assault on a Female charge (which is a separate charge in NC) stick, even though in a lot of the cases I have seen, they were indeed guilty. Of course I could go into the reasons of each case I have observed as each are different, but it really is not necessary.
Who do you hang out with? Do you have some white trash or low class friends, or are you in the criminal justice field? No one I know has ever been arrested for domestic violence, let alone been known to hit his or her partner.
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BTW, your story about you're friend with 5 DUIs who still drives drunk is not "LOL". He obviously has some very serious problems. Someone with a drinking problem like that who continues to drive will seriously hurt someone if he doesn't stop. People with multiple DUIs are many, many times more likely to be kill themselves or others in accidents then a drunk driver who has never been arrested.
Try to get your friend help.
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and that is always the wrong thing to do....we already had a thread about this.
you don't have to tell me that, tell that to the desperate chumps that just see it as an opportunity to play "hero" and possibly get laid
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you don't have to tell me that, tell that to the desperate chumps that just see it as an opportunity to play "hero" and possibly get laid
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your a smart man!
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your a smart man!
I know 8)
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you gotta be smart sometimes.
you slept with a crazy person. She's violent and pissy, you knew that going in.
if she slaps you, ya gotta walk - or run - away.
let your ego take the hit, and keep your ass outta jail.
unless she has some sort of mental disease no one has the right to hit you. i dont care if she is a girl, tranny homosexual or a hermaphrodite.
now im not saying beat her into a coma or put her into ICU but if a back hand doesnt work use a fist and chin check the bitch.
in the case of rhianna she tried to pull the lambo over when she is not the driver. she could of easily killed them both and chris brown would of been to blame because he was the driver. if a girl tried to steer the car and she isnt driving she can expect an elbow to the head and better both of passengers walking away alive than both dead.
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unless she has some sort of mental disease no one has the right to hit you. i dont care if she is a girl, tranny homosexual or a hermaphrodite.
agree... but.. in reality the man gets blamed more than 50% of the time.
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What would you have done to this woman.
A woman accused of biting off her boyfriend's tongue says she has no recollection of attacking him.
Tracy Davies, 40, bit off a third of Mark Coghill's tongue during a drunken kiss at his flat, Newcastle Crown Court has heard.
She said the first she knew of the injury was when Mr Coghill walked into the living room, carrying his tongue.
Ms Davies of Sunderland Road, Gateshead, denies one count of causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
She said they had started arguing as they celebrated Mr Coghill's 45th birthday at his Newcastle flat in October, and finished the evening in separate rooms, drinking a bottle of vodka each.
The next thing I remember was Mark coming in to where I was with his tongue in his hand saying I did it
Ms Davies told the jury: "We were both very drunk at that stage. I went to the other room, and he stayed in the bathroom, we were both drinking vodka.
"The next thing I remember was Mark coming in to where I was with his tongue in his hand saying I did it. I didn't know what to do."
She later called paramedics, who alerted police to the scene at St George's Terrace in Jesmond.
Giving evidence, Ms Davies claimed the only reason she had said she was responsible for the injury was because Mr Coghill had convinced her she had bitten through the tongue herself.
She said her former partner's account of the evening was "not true", but added that she would never know what had happened.
Mr Coghill was treated at Newcastle General Hospital, but surgeons decided the risk of infection was too high to consider reattaching the torn tongue.
The trial continues.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7926868.stm
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adonis are you saying you regularly beat your sister jizzabelle when she voices her displeasure of your small penis?
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Without her testimony Chris will get off. She is not going to testify for the prosecution, I wasn't clear in my original post.
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Sorry..I don't think I made myself clear...THE PROSECUTOR DOES NOT NEED HER TESTIMONY!!! THE STATE TAKES OVER THE CASE...WETHER OR NOT SHE WANTS TO??? IT'S HER CHOICE.BUT NO DROPPING OF CHARGES WILL HAPPEN! Chris either has to take a plea. Or take it to trial.. Chris got arrested..So obviously they have a case.. A strong case? Who knows? But it's good enough to move on with..
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There's no excuse for a man to punch a woman in the face, bash her head against the window and try to throw here out of a car. ::)
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I would find him innocent if I was on the Jury if that were the case.
She's older than him too, that should b considered.
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hahhah you guys are so overreacting to a man putting a woman in a womans place. She attacks him in his car potentially causing him to wreck and die, he smacks her around a little for the disrespect and all the sudden he is a murderer???!! Only in America, land of the metrosexual.
jt
HAHAHAHAHA where are you from JT? These metrosexuals should be hunted down and exterminated like the little bitches they are
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Thank God the Get Big lawyers have this case figured out already ::)
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Thank God the Get Big lawyers have this case figured out already ::)
Once Johnny Vegas finishes his deposition with Onlyme, he'll post his expert opinion.
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Sorry..I don't think I made myself clear...THE PROSECUTOR DOES NOT NEED HER TESTIMONY!!! THE STATE TAKES OVER THE CASE...WETHER OR NOT SHE WANTS TO??? IT'S HER CHOICE.BUT NO DROPPING OF CHARGES WILL HAPPEN! Chris either has to take a plea. Or take it to trial.. Chris got arrested..So obviously they have a case.. A strong case? Who knows? But it's good enough to move on with..
That is not totally true, the prosecutor can take over the case but they will need her testimony, why, because though the affidavit describing what took place my but true and it is she who said what happened, in order to be admitted as evidence, the defense must have the right to cross examine the witness, you cannot cross examine a written affidavit however true it is. If she refuses to testify, they will have to subpoena her. She can accept and testify agaisnt him by supporting the clain of the affidavit, accept and then take the 5th then the affidavit won't be admitted, or she can refuse to testify, at this point the DA can ask the judge to hold her in civil contempt which is basically throw in jail for the duration of the trial, still the affidavit would not be admitted. I doubt the da would do this in this case because they would look really vindictive. this si basically why Andersen will return to jail in the Barry bonds trial.
And if the story of them being married secretly is true, his is even worse, because f the husband and wife privilege, a wife cannot testify against her husband and vice versa, like the priest parishioner privilege
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Sorry..I don't think I made myself clear...THE PROSECUTOR DOES NOT NEED HER TESTIMONY!!! THE STATE TAKES OVER THE CASE...WETHER OR NOT SHE WANTS TO??? IT'S HER CHOICE.BUT NO DROPPING OF CHARGES WILL HAPPEN! Chris either has to take a plea. Or take it to trial.. Chris got arrested..So obviously they have a case.. A strong case? Who knows? But it's good enough to move on with..
ok your right, and today her attorney said she will testify if called, geez I can't believe Chris is still with her, she will hold this shit over him forever, needs to move onto some new girl.
jt
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jtsunami
Why do you hate women so much?
Mother issues?
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jtsunami
Why do you hate women so much?
Mother issues?
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I don't hate woman, I don't worship the ground the walk on either. I love woman and love to be around them and sex them up etc, but their is a point that they are use to taking advantage of the many simps that make up American society today, honorary women disguised as men, and if you don't draw a line with the women in America they will walk all over you.
jt