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Title: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:40:39 AM
Hips....I mean pics don't lie ;D

Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 07, 2009, 11:41:49 AM
kai all day baby
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:42:03 AM
More
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on March 07, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
all day baby-kai
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 11:43:28 AM
kais legs are better.. and he has better conditioning..
everything else victor wins....
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Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
Last ones

Like I said, Vic wins on structure, Kai wins on conditioning.

Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 11:45:04 AM
kai looks strange in the front double bi
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 11:45:17 AM
Kai is the clear winner.

But, Branchs lower body is sick.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: DeketheCreep on March 07, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
Just heard on CNN larry king,Vic is in the lead
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: CastIron on March 07, 2009, 11:46:31 AM
Kai because Vic is known for his back right? I think Kai's lats go further down then Vic's and is more thicker too. Vic's middle part of his back is bigger then Kai's, that's it. I think Kai will win.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:46:41 AM
People keep saying, Kai's waist got larger, I don't see it.

As far as I could see during prejudging, waist and gut were under control.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 11:47:36 AM
KAI but they'll give the victory to Martinez.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: DeketheCreep on March 07, 2009, 11:47:57 AM
Branch looks weird next to them
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Meso_z on March 07, 2009, 11:48:31 AM
Last ones

Like I said, Vic wins on structure, Kai wins on conditioning.



+1
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
KAI but they'll give the victory to Martinez.

You think so?  If Kai stays within the time limits of his posing routine and holds or improves his conditioning, he will win.

Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:52:46 AM
Branch looks weird next to them

Branch does look out of place.  I would have had Silvio in 3rd as much as I hate the little freak.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: The.Giant on March 07, 2009, 11:55:29 AM
Kai by quite a bit.

He's absolutely destroying Vics legs from the front.

No Toney?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: AVBG on March 07, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
I can't see how in the last callout Freeman is not there. They can't possibly place Warren ahead of Freeman.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Rami on March 07, 2009, 12:11:47 PM
broken leg, brocken pec, broekn abs, broekn triceseps, it's top 4 at the arnold.  :)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: DeketheCreep on March 07, 2009, 12:13:13 PM
Branch does look out of place.  I would have had Silvio in 3rd as much as I hate the little freak.
Or Tony at least,but branch? naaaah.
what if cutler was up there,oh mang he look bad
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:14:31 PM
based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Boost on March 07, 2009, 12:14:48 PM
Really want Kai to win but i have a feeling it may go to Vic...

Vic's quads and calves are complete garbage
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: DeketheCreep on March 07, 2009, 12:16:28 PM
Really want Kai to win but i have a feeling it may go to Vic...

Vic's quads and calves are complete garbage
Spot on,kai should win this show,maybe he'd stop raping teh fruits
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 07, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
Branch first!

someone has to support him.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2009, 12:20:11 PM
KAI but they'll give the victory to Martinez.

bingo
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Benny B on March 07, 2009, 12:20:54 PM
kai looks strange in the front double bi
yes
Kai always looks very awkward in that pose. Never his best, in my opinion.

I'd have Branch fifth, with Toney and Silvio third and fourth. Vic and Kai=a matter of personal preference, and I don't have one.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.

LOL...Good one, no really, what are your real picks?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
LOL...Good one, no really, what are your real picks?
exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth. ::)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Benny B on March 07, 2009, 12:23:59 PM
exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth. ::)

You sound like a self loathing, obese Paki. What's your point?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: pumpster on March 07, 2009, 12:26:09 PM
Vic's upper bod looks great-aesthetic, good muscle shape and flow, size, good conditioning but could be slightly leaner, as usual. Legs-thighs a little smaller but cut, calves smallish as usual. Still better than the rest.

Kai's slightly leaner but like most of these other guys has average/poor structure including mediocre V and blocky quads.

Most of these guys aren't naturally suited to be BBs, they look like powerlifters and don't have much flow or tapers, they're blocky with no flow.

Virtually every single guy has miniscule calves also.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth. ::)

LOL.  Wow, where did that come from?  No one said anything about race.
Sounds like like someone is pulling for the great white hope with comments like that.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 12:36:31 PM
You think so?  If Kai stays within the time limits of his posing routine and holds or improves his conditioning, he will win.


I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X1999_NPQLLINBMZ.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2410_MFWWMCPEGJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: willie mosconi on March 07, 2009, 12:36:59 PM
Kai's physique reminds me of a prime Aaron Baker
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: physicsgeek on March 07, 2009, 12:37:21 PM
Vic on almost all shots.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: pumpster on March 07, 2009, 12:39:35 PM
I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.



Not, because while kai's a little leaner he has poor aesthetics and structure, including blocky thighs. Vic beats him on upper bo and is close on legs thanks to aesthetics and muscle shape, even if not as lean.

Nothing much most of these guys in this show with poor structure and aesthetics can do against someone who has those qualities, like Vic, if Vic's on. They can't fix it with more training.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:40:32 PM
I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X1999_NPQLLINBMZ.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2410_MFWWMCPEGJ.jpg)
maybe Victor doesn't like to squat and leg press Arkadius.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 12:43:26 PM
If Kai loses i say we all form Team Greene and post these comparison pictures of him/victor everywhere and call bullshit for the rest of eternity.


 :D :D
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: pumpster on March 07, 2009, 12:45:49 PM
If Kai loses i say we all form Team Greene and post these comparison pictures of him/victor everywhere and call bullshit for the rest of eternity.


 :D :D

Pics can be misleading. The video shows that kai's a little leaner but has structural issues including blocky quads and no flow.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: wes on March 07, 2009, 12:47:08 PM
IMO,Kai all the way.........no question!
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Benny B on March 07, 2009, 12:48:25 PM
Kai's physique reminds me of a prime Aaron Baker
Kai has more mass, Aaron had a better structure.

Aaron was similar to Flez Wheeler in his prime.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 12:48:35 PM
based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.


Exactly
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: technokc on March 07, 2009, 12:49:35 PM
I would be happy with either Kai or Branch 1st and second, Victor's legs from the front are just too glaring of a weakness, and both Kai and Branch are huge and in shape.  Neither has a pretty physique but both have brought close to the best they can and deserve the spot by their shear muscle mass.

Victor obviously has the superior structure but that shouldnt carry him through. . . unfortunately I highly doubt the would "give" the win to either Kai or Branch in a big show like this.


On another note too bad Toney came in soft, could have been money in the bank for him if he showed up looking like he did at the O.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 12:51:50 PM
Toney wasn't soft, he was super flat.

he should not have cut his water
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 12:54:16 PM
Pics can be misleading. The video shows that kai's a little leaner but has structural issues including blocky quads and no flow.
Blocky quads...it's called muscles, pumpster ::) But i agree that Victor has better aesthetics than Kai.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 12:54:27 PM
kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath


Victor lost his magic.

he was in better condition in 2007
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: spinnis on March 07, 2009, 12:55:11 PM
BRANCH IS A FUCKING MONSTER.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Boost on March 07, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath

Heath has Jumped over Martinez big time.

From the calves to the conditioning..
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: technokc on March 07, 2009, 12:56:49 PM
Toney wasn't soft, he was super flat.

he should not have cut his water

Whatever you want to call it I don't think there is any denying his form from the O would have cleaned up here.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: BIG_STI on March 07, 2009, 12:58:30 PM
based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.

Are you blind?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: MattT on March 07, 2009, 12:58:53 PM
I don't know now the judges might surprise us like they did the O and give kai the win. We were all expecting Jay to be crowned mr o even though he was abit soft.  Now were r expecting Vic to be crowned the winner even though he's abit soft.  
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 12:59:39 PM
Whatever you want to call it I don't think there is any denying his form from the O would have cleaned up here.

absolutely
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 12:59:54 PM
Are you blind?

Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 01:00:02 PM
BRANCH IS A FUCKING MONSTER.
LOSE THE FUCKING FETISH.

BRANCH LOOKED LIKE DEATH WARMED UP ON STAGE
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 07, 2009, 01:03:16 PM
LOSE THE FUCKING FETISH.

BRANCH LOOKED LIKE DEATH WARMED UP ON STAGE

branch reminds me of platz in the 81 O, not so much structure wise but that it looks like he's been through hell to get where he is at.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 07, 2009, 01:05:57 PM
Kai has an extra 12 lbs of muscle in the lower back compared to Vic ...


but he looks worse and worse aS HE GETS HEAVIER ...
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
 Shawn Ray: Kai, Victor, Branch

Dorian Yates: Kai, Victor, Branch

Flex Wheeler: Kai winning.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 07, 2009, 01:09:46 PM
I have Kai , Victor, toney
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 01:10:34 PM
Branch, Kai, Victor.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 01:11:30 PM

Exactly
THIS IS SICK :o

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2487_EYGYRQTEWW.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 01:14:51 PM
He wont win due to his back.

BUT WTF IS THIS LOWER PART!?!?

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2525_DJYTPJRRCL.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 01:15:18 PM
THIS IS SICK :o

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2487_EYGYRQTEWW.jpg)

Branch is just as conditionned as Kai, even grainier

and his physique also flows much better, Branch is the winner right here IMO
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: spinnis on March 07, 2009, 01:16:07 PM
THIS IS SICK :o

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2487_EYGYRQTEWW.jpg)

looks at the waist and wheels,

CRAZY
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 01:18:31 PM
Maybe the biggest pro right now.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on March 07, 2009, 01:19:08 PM
ESPN Sports Center just reported that Kai wins and that anabolic steroid use is suspected.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: technokc on March 07, 2009, 01:21:04 PM
Yes, he is.

Hey wiggs, how can you think Kai looks great but think Branch looks like shit?  Very similiar overpowering muscular physiques with definete structural flaws.  I would think you would see them in a similiar fashion.

Both have a complete different look than Vic, who does have symmetry, but legs is killing him.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 01:22:31 PM
hahahaha, "structural flaws" ::) no one ever says anything about Victor's long ass torso and short legs, talk about a structural flaw.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on March 07, 2009, 01:24:38 PM
What about character flaws?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: LMV on March 07, 2009, 01:24:43 PM
hahahaha, "structural flaws" ::) no one ever says anything about Victor's long ass torso and short legs, talk about a structural flaw.

exactly

plus the fact that he has turnip shaped quads,  a major structural flaw
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 01:26:33 PM
Hey wiggs, how can you think Kai looks great but think Branch looks like shit?
Kai is black and Wiggs is black, Branch is white, enough said.

But in this case i think Kai is better than Branch.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 07, 2009, 01:27:09 PM
What the fuck happened to Toney?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 01:27:43 PM
Kai is black and Wiggs is black, Branch is white, enough said.

But in this case i think Kai is better than Branch.
exactamundo.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 01:28:35 PM
Kai is black and Wiggs is black, Branch is white, enough said.

But in this case i think Kai is better than Branch.
Yes. Totaly, Kai is more complete.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
exactamundo.

STFU ::)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 01:32:34 PM
STFU ::)
what's wrong short stuff, don't like me telling the truth.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: technokc on March 07, 2009, 01:34:24 PM
Kai is black and Wiggs is black, Branch is white, enough said.

But in this case i think Kai is better than Branch.

I thought wiggs was one of the non racist black dudes on here, maybe I am thinking of somebody else.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 01:35:30 PM
Hey wiggs, how can you think Kai looks great but think Branch looks like shit?  Very similiar overpowering muscular physiques with definete structural flaws.  I would think you would see them in a similiar fashion.

Both have a complete different look than Vic, who does have symmetry, but legs is killing him.

1.  Branch is 5'6
2.  Branch has midget arms
3.  Branch can't pose comparable to Kai
4.  Branch has zero flow to his body
5.  Branch is shredded but but doesn't have the separation Kai does.
6.  Branch is white.... ;D...j/k
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 01:36:26 PM
what's wrong short stuff, don't like me telling the truth.

No, I don't like you talking at all.  Go away.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 01:37:47 PM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2452_RBZUMDVDQZ.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2459_NSCKEBRMEI.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2457_MJAVXDSGTD.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2483_GHLCIQSSON.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2473_CCCDSHLIQC.jpg)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
What about character flaws?


Are you an advocate for Grapefruit's Rights?
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 01:40:01 PM
I thought wiggs was one of the non racist black dudes on here, maybe I am thinking of somebody else.

I'm not, they're just being dicks.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Benny B on March 07, 2009, 01:40:08 PM
what's wrong short stuff, don't like me telling the truth.
The truth that you are a self-loathing Pakistanian who is racist against blacks? Everyone knows that.  ::)
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kyomu on March 07, 2009, 01:43:19 PM
The truth that you are a self-loathing Pakistanian who is racist against blacks? Everyone knows that.  ::)
Nah. Dave is saying his opinion simply. I dont see any racism there.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 01:45:35 PM
Mirza is racist scum whose bigotry pervades his every post.
calm down gloria
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Benny B on March 07, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
calm down gloria

eat me francis
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Bobby on March 07, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
KAI should win this for sure

grapefruit or not, he is the best there.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 03:22:14 PM
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1950&Itemid=220
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 07, 2009, 03:29:59 PM
I agree Vics quads aren't as detailed as they should be.  The surgeon did a great job in the reattachement/re-placement but I think the leg needs a bit more time to develop the muscle detail again, if he can.

However, Vics shape is much better than Kai's.  Its just genetic.  Kai wins on quads for sure and wins on conditioning.  Vic's upper body is much better than Kai's.  Kai is definitely blocky and has a fair shoulder to waist ratio.  Overall I give Vic the nod.

Freeman didn't get good comparisons.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: kawaks on March 07, 2009, 03:32:45 PM
maybe Victor doesn't like to squat and leg press Arkadius.

Wow, Victors calves look half decent in that shot.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: m8 on March 07, 2009, 03:37:31 PM
Kai wins based on cock size and anus separation.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 03:47:23 PM
What the fuck happened to Toney?

dyazide
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: The_Hammer on March 07, 2009, 04:38:16 PM
Branch looks great, but def needs to work on the lower lats.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Relentless on March 07, 2009, 04:55:54 PM
I agree Vics quads aren't as detailed as they should be.  The surgeon did a great job in the reattachement/re-placement but I think the leg needs a bit more time to develop the muscle detail again, if he can.

However, Vics shape is much better than Kai's.  Its just genetic.  Kai wins on quads for sure and wins on conditioning.  Vic's upper body is much better than Kai's.  Kai is definitely blocky and has a fair shoulder to waist ratio.  Overall I give Vic the nod.

Freeman didn't get good comparisons.

I agree with you. As good as Kai looks, he is not as aesthetically pleasing as Victor.  I would give it to Victor by a very narrow margin.
Title: Re: Kai vs. Vic
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
THIS IS SICK :o

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2487_EYGYRQTEWW.jpg)

What the hell is up with the T-Rex arms? Or is it the angle and the fact that his legs make his arms look small.