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Maybe now we can put to rest whether Barry the Shitbag cares about the military. U wonder why I hate him......
Senator warns White House on possible vet insurance plan
Posted: 03:38 PM ET
From CNN Supervising Producer Adam Levine
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial a plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance, but was told by lawmakers that it would be "dead on arrival" if sent to Congress.
Washington Sen. Patty Murray used that blunt terminology, telling Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed. She made the remarks during a Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs hearing about the 2010 budget.
No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly, but veterans groups wrote a pre-emptive letter last week to President Obama opposing the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration. The groups also noticed an increase in “third-party collections” estimated in the 2010 budget proposal—something they said could only be achieved if the VA started billing for service-related injuries.
Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under "consideration."
"A final decision hasn't been made yet," he said.
A second senator, North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, said he agreed that the idea should not go forward.
"I think you will give that up" as a revenue stream, if it is included in this April's budget, Burr said.
Sen. Murray said she'd already discussed her concerns with the secretary the previous week.
"I believe that veterans with service-connected injuries have already paid by putting their lives on the line," Murray said in her remarks. "I don't think we should nickel and dime them for their care."
Eleven of the most prominent veterans organizations have been lobbying Congress to oppose the idea. In the letter sent last week to President Barack Obama, the veterans groups warned that the idea "is wholly unacceptable and a total abrogation of our government's moral and legal responsbility to the men and women who have sacrificed so much."
The groups included The American Legion, Disabled American Veterans, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States and Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.
At the time, a White House spokesman would neither confirm nor deny the option was being considere
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Maybe now we can put to rest whether Barry the Shitbag cares about the military. U wonder why I hate him......
Hi Article 88
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Oh I can hate him on getbig all I want...christ Hugo if he decides to shoot down the chimps satelite, I'll be screaming his name as I fix bayonettes and charge the screaming hords of the NKPA.
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Maybe now we can put to rest whether Barry the Shitbag cares about the military. U wonder why I hate him......
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial a plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.
Jarheads don't like private insurance. :-*
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DIDNT YU,,SEE STOCKERS ON CARS DURING ELECTION,,,IT READ SOMETHING, OBAM FOR VETERANS,,,,THEY NOT VOTE FOR MCCAIN CAUSE HE NOT A VETTERN SUPPORTER,,THEY SAY,
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OK, seriously... WTF... So Obama thinks lazy bums should get free handouts and veterans should pay for treatment of service-related injuries. How much more ass-backwards can you get?
I agree with Ted Nugent on this issue--if there's any group in our society that IS deserving of handouts, it's wounded and disabled vets.
I'm astounded that Obama would even put such an asinine proposal on the table.
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Agreed Dan. I don't mind my tax dollars being spent on Veteran injuries and care. I do mind all the other handouts he is proposing. Obama is clearly expanding the government and pushing socialist type policies. He speaks like he is for all people when in fact he is clearly partial to the poor and believes in redistributional big government.
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Maybe now we can put to rest whether Barry the Shitbag cares about the military. U wonder why I hate him......
Senator warns White House on possible vet insurance plan
Posted: 03:38 PM ET
From CNN Supervising Producer Adam Levine
Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial a plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki confirmed Tuesday that the Obama administration is considering a controversial plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance, but was told by lawmakers that it would be "dead on arrival" if sent to Congress.
Washington Sen. Patty Murray used that blunt terminology, telling Shinseki that the idea would not be acceptable and would be rejected if formally proposed. She made the remarks during a Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs hearing about the 2010 budget.
No official proposal to create such a program has been announced publicly, but veterans groups wrote a pre-emptive letter last week to President Obama opposing the idea after hearing the plan was under consideration. The groups also noticed an increase in “third-party collections” estimated in the 2010 budget proposal—something they said could only be achieved if the VA started billing for service-related injuries.
Asked about the proposal, Shinseki said it was under "consideration."
"A final decision hasn't been made yet," he said.
A second senator, North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, said he agreed that the idea should not go forward.
"I think you will give that up" as a revenue stream, if it is included in this April's budget, Burr said.
Sen. Murray said she'd already discussed her concerns with the secretary the previous week.
"I believe that veterans with service-connected injuries have already paid by putting their lives on the line," Murray said in her remarks. "I don't think we should nickel and dime them for their care."
Eleven of the most prominent veterans organizations have been lobbying Congress to oppose the idea. In the letter sent last week to President Barack Obama, the veterans groups warned that the idea "is wholly unacceptable and a total abrogation of our government's moral and legal responsbility to the men and women who have sacrificed so much."
The groups included The American Legion, Disabled American Veterans, Military Order of the Purple Heart, Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States and Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America.
At the time, a White House spokesman would neither confirm nor deny the option was being considere
And bush had our troops riding around in the fucked up Jeeps. And he didnt want to give no money to fix them. And dont you dare try to tell me im wrong because by brother was in Iraq in one of the non armored Jeeps.
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And bush had our troops riding around in the fucked up Jeeps. And he didnt want to give no money to fix them. And dont you dare try to tell me im wrong because by brother was in Iraq in one of the non armored Jeeps.
it was obama's fault that bush gave them under-armed jeeps in 2003.
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it was obama's fault that bush gave them under-armed jeeps in 2003.
No,it was Palins.
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No,it was Palins.
classic!
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No,it was Palins.
fortunately, palin was never given enough power to really break anything.
i'm sure with the vp slot, she could have started a few holy wars and really kept Putin in check with her own brand of garden-variety winks and "gotchas", all while telling us abstinance is the only way - even as her own daughter went on FOX news and called abstinance unrealistic.
but no, we must blame obama for what happened in 2002 and 2003. or clinton. Either works.
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As much as I hate our foreign policy, the US Government and lackeys like HH6 I do feel him and other military members shouldn't have to pay for their medical insurance and should have access to the best medical care in the world. Pathetic! Obama is a fucking joke!
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And bush had our troops riding around in the fucked up Jeeps. And he didnt want to give no money to fix them. And dont you dare try to tell me im wrong because by brother was in Iraq in one of the non armored Jeeps.
So what's your point? Bush gave the troops non-armored Jeeps so therefore Obama should be able to make vets pay for private insurance?
These are completely unrelated events.
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So what's your point? Bush gave the troops non-armored Jeeps so therefore Obama should be able to make vets pay for private insurance?
These are completely unrelated events.
No. The same guy that Praises Everything Bush does is slamming Obama for the same thing that Bush did.
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No. The same guy that Praises Everything Bush does is slamming Obama for the same thing that Bush did.
didnt you criticize bush for his spending? but you have to wait and see for obamas record spending?
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didnt you criticize bush for his spending? but you have to wait and see for obamas record spending?
I never spoke on Bush's spending because i dont know national economics. Ill say like i said before, handled 911 and iraq wrong..find a post with me saying something about bush's spending
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I never spoke on Bush's spending because i dont know national economics. Ill say like i said before, handled 911 and iraq wrong..find a post with me saying something about bush's spending
im not saying you did thats why there was a question mark behind it, just suprising that you didnt no offense.
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im not saying you did thats why there was a question mark behind it, just suprising that you didnt no offense.
I try my hardest to understand International economics but there are no constants as biology or chemistry.
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I try my hardest to understand International economics but there are no constants as biology or chemistry.
so true i think this is why you can argue about it day in and day out and still be at the same place in the end.
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Ah Bush isn't in Office, we did not anticipate the IED threat, we have plenty now and THATS NOT THE POINT OF THE THREAD. The moron in chief wants vets to pay for healthcare that was supposed to be free when they signed the contract.
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Ah Bush isn't in Office, we did not anticipate the IED threat, we have plenty now and THATS NOT THE POINT OF THE THREAD. The moron in chief wants vets to pay for healthcare that was supposed to be free when they signed the contract.
Bush is going to get blamed for everything for 100 years.
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Bush is going to get blamed for everything for 100 years.
He should. >:(
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He should. >:(
you mam/sir are a liberal ass hat, whos gimmick are you?
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Only dumb asses could logically defend Barry here. The damn liberals here apparently think that welfare recipients, who contribute nothing to society, deserve free health care before our soldiers...you know the men and women actually doing something for the country. It's a sad sad time in America when we don't even want to take care of our veterans. I would love to hear an argument that actually flies on this issue.
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it was obama's fault that bush gave them under-armed jeeps in 2003.
Are you kidding? LOL, 240 you will try to spin anything man. Unreal. This issue has nothing to do with Bush.
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Are you kidding? LOL, 240 you will try to spin anything man. Unreal. This issue has nothing to do with Bush.
lol i know. just bored here.
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Only dumb asses could logically defend Barry here. The damn liberals here apparently think that welfare recipients, who contribute nothing to society, deserve free health care before our soldiers...you know the men and women actually doing something for the country. It's a sad sad time in America when we don't even want to take care of our veterans. I would love to hear an argument that actually flies on this issue.
my thoughts exactly I have many friends and family with combat injuries
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This is most likely for the wealthy or ones who are already insured privately. My father is a combat veteran and you cant pay him to go to the VA hospital. He has great insurance as a union mechanic and sees no reason to load down the VA system.
In the end im sure this is optional to those who have it already.......
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Ah.....its more then that. Its really not the point, u signed a contract saying if we fuck u up, we'll fix u. If u do 20, we'll take care of u. Now Obama wants to give welfare douchebags and mexicans access to healthcare and make the one group in this country who really deserves it, pay. The whole thing is a non-issue right now but please don't try and tell me the Dems care about Vets. We're an issue for them, they only care about vets to poke at Bush.