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http://www.flexonline.com/weider_pro_world_cup_postponed/news/694
March 11, 2010
FLEXONLINE.COM
On Wednesday, American Media, Inc. (AMI) and the IFBB Professional League announced the debut of Joe Weider's Pro World Cup in Berlin, Germany will be postponed until 2010.
"Since taking over Weider Publications and Joe Weider's Olympia Weekend in 2004, AMI has been dedicated to expanding bodybuilding not only in the United States, but across the world," AMI Chairman, President and CEO David Pecker said. "Our intention in launching Joe Weider's Pro World Cup is to continue those efforts by hosting an event on par with the biggest and best in the United States.
"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
In 2010, Joe Weider's Pro World Cup will be held at Messe Berlin in Berlin Germany on October 6-10, two weeks after Olympia Weekend. As originally planned, the weekend will include the European Pro Championships, a Powerlifting Supershow, a European FLEX Bikini Model Search and a Superstar Seminar.
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http://www.ifbbpro.com/features/joe-weider-pro-world-cup-postponed/
On Wednesday, American Media, Inc. (AMI) and the IFBB Professional League announced the debut of Joe Weider’s Pro World Cup in Berlin, Germany will be postponed until 2010.
"Since taking over Weider Publications and Joe Weider’s Olympia Weekend in 2004, AMI has been dedicated to expanding bodybuilding not only in the United States, but across the world," AMI Chairman, President and CEO David Pecker said. "Our intention in launching Joe Weider’s Pro World Cup is to continue those efforts by hosting an event on par with the biggest and best in the United States.
"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
In 2010, Joe Weider’s Pro World Cup will be held at Messe Berlin in Berlin, Germany on October 6-10, two weeks after Olympia Weekend. As originally planned, the weekend will include the European Pro Championships, a Powerlifting Supershow, a European FLEX Bikini Model Search and a Superstar Seminar.
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is that like bodybuilding's version of the World baseball Classic, Big Ron?
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http://www.flexonline.com/weider_pro_world_cup_postponed/news/694
March 11, 2010
FLEXONLINE.COM
On Wednesday, American Media, Inc. (AMI) and the IFBB Professional League announced the debut of Joe Weider's Pro World Cup in Berlin, Germany will be postponed until 2010.
"Since taking over Weider Publications and Joe Weider's Olympia Weekend in 2004, AMI has been dedicated to expanding bodybuilding not only in the United States, but across the world," AMI Chairman, President and CEO David Pecker said. "Our intention in launching Joe Weider's Pro World Cup is to continue those efforts by hosting an event on par with the biggest and best in the United States.
"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
In 2010, Joe Weider's Pro World Cup will be held at Messe Berlin in Berlin Germany on October 6-10, two weeks after Olympia Weekend. As originally planned, the weekend will include the European Pro Championships, a Powerlifting Supershow, a European FLEX Bikini Model Search and a Superstar Seminar.
so its one year later?
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Yes, it will be one year later.
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That sucks >:( ,now I have to decide wich World Cup I'm going to attend , FIFA or IFBB ::)
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that's the contest Ronnie was thinking of competing in this year, was supposed to be the biggest show after the Olympia and Arnold
shame it had to be cancelled
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Nothing to see here move along just another IFBB Pro show being cancelled.Won't hear of this show again.Gone, nice touch using the current financial climate as fault.What a JOKE it's as though these guys have No Money give us all a break.
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That sucks >:( ,now I have to decide wich World Cup I'm going to attend , FIFA or IFBB ::)
haha
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One cup, One schmoe. A legend is born.
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That is not right
Many people in Germany and Europe have already booked their flights and hotels.
People will be not happy about that outcome.
I can image that people will not show up in 2010. People that already paid for their flights and hotel for this year will not book again for next year in spring 2010. And to wait up to the last minute to look for flights and hotel will be very expencieve in germany so alot of people will stay at home.
The IFBB does everything they shoulden't
This is like the Formel 1 in the USA if you have a bad start you can kick it.
Sincerley Steven
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That is not right
Many people in Germany and Europe have already booked their flights and hotels.
People will be not happy about that outcome.
I can image that people will not show up in 2010. People that already paid for their flights and hotel for this year will not book again for next year in spring 2010. And to wait up to the last minute to look for flights and hotel will be very expencieve in germany so alot of people will stay at home.
The IFBB does everything they shoulden't
This is like the Formel 1 in the USA if you have a bad start you can kick it.
Sincerley Steven
Seems if an Athlete pulls out they are Fined but the IFBB can do what they want.You tell them Steve. :-\
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One cup, One schmoe. A legend is born.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah a ;D
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another one bites the dust, we can add the pro world cup to the list that includes the show of strength, the japan grand prix, masters olympia etc, of shows that have been scrapped, AMI is doing a great job of ''expanding'' bodybuilding around the world ::)
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Anyone know when they're holding the last year's Euro Tour?
(cue bob?)
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They should only have 2 shows a year The Arnold and the Olympia at least the cash is half decent.The other shows are all a JOKE.
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No men in thongs,im disapointed >:(
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After watching my first pro show last week, I think it'll take a lot more than a couple more shows to bring bodybuilding to the masses. It looked like a completely unprofessional gayfest. No wonder the average Joe doesn't follow bbing.
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After watching my first pro show last week, I think it'll take a lot more than a couple more shows to bring bodybuilding to the masses. It looked like a completely unprofessional gayfest. No wonder the average Joe doesn't follow bbing.
sad but so true ::)
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sad but so true ::)
They need to get rid of announcers who are blatantly leering at the competitors, throw out the sparkly thongs, and stop judging guys on their glutes. All of the routines were just male lapdances, it was frigging disgusting.
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Pecker
uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh ;D
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They need to get rid of announcers who are blatantly leering at the competitors, throw out the sparkly thongs, and stop judging guys on their glutes. All of the routines were just male lapdances, it was frigging disgusting.
X2, i rather go to amatuer contest where at least it has some remnant of a sport, and less schmoes!
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Where do they get those Blue Blazer Judges from???
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Absolute shame for sure.... :( >:(
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Where do they get those Blue Blazer Judges from???
just a bunch of muscle worship schmoes who are willing to do it for a mayo sandwich and first dibs on the private posing sessions ::)
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I was looking forward to this - I can't afford to go to the Olympia in Vegas this year and so this was going to be the alternative.
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The IFBB is just a joke - supposingly cancelling their biggest show in Europe cos of Economic reasons?
I call bullshit, just an excuse as they have had a rethink and probably cant be arsed. This show will sink and never be heard of again - just wait for the next excuse, its right around the corner.
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What other reason OTHER than economics, would there be?
If a show can be put on the schedule, and make money, or even break even in the first year or two...then it's viable. There are many factors given to a show getting the green light...especially when it's in Europe. In this case, the economic status currently makes it an impossibility this year.
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Finally, this will be a MAJOR exposure for Pro bodybuilding
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What other reason OTHER than economics, would there be?
If a show can be put on the schedule, and make money, or even break even in the first year or two...then it's viable. There are many factors given to a show getting the green light...especially when it's in Europe. In this case, the economic status currently makes it an impossibility this year.
why the poorest part of Germany and so close to the poorest countries in europe...hungary, estonia, latvia, shithole poland, etc. i mean come mon...who did that business plan? ok a german drug company, right?
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"Since taking over Weider Publications and Joe Weider's Olympia Weekend in 2004, AMI has been dedicated to expanding bodybuilding not only in the United States, but across the world," AMI Chairman, President and CEO David Pecker said.
What a lie. Since taking over, AMI has done everything they could to kill bodybuilding outside the US.
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What other reason OTHER than economics, would there be?
If a show can be put on the schedule, and make money, or even break even in the first year or two...then it's viable. There are many factors given to a show getting the green light...especially when it's in Europe. In this case, the economic status currently makes it an impossibility this year.
Chick, you cant just look at a business plan for 1-2 years. My understanding of this show was threefold.
a) To increase the marquee value and brand name of the IFBB in europe.
b) To expose IFBB Athletes to a potentialy new market and thus considerably increase their earning potential/fanbase in Europe.
c) To reward exsisting european fans and thus bring in new fans to bodybuilding (IFBB) in a market that has seen scant pro shows and top IFBB Pros in recent years.
While I understand the economic constraints around this show may make it difficult to put on, sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. The cancellation of this show does not do the IFBB any good in the Fans/Sponsers or Athletes eyes and shows IMO a lack of business foresight rather than the whole perspective over the next 5 -10 years. Couple that with an underbelly attitude of fuck the fans who have booked tickets/time off work etc and perhaps you can see my point.
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Pecker does not give a flying .... about the fans bob
Its all about the mighty dollar.
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Chick, you cant just look at a business plan for 1-2 years. My understanding of this show was threefold.
a) To increase the marquee value and brand name of the IFBB in europe.
b) To expose IFBB Athletes to a potentialy new market and thus considerably increase their earning potential/fanbase in Europe.
c) To reward exsisting european fans and thus bring in new fans to bodybuilding (IFBB) in a market that has seen scant pro shows and top IFBB Pros in recent years.
While I understand the economic constraints around this show may make it difficult to put on, sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. The cancellation of this show does not do the IFBB any good in the Fans/Sponsers or Athletes eyes and shows IMO a lack of business foresight rather than the whole perspective over the next 5 -10 years. Couple that with an underbelly attitude of fuck the fans who have booked tickets/time off work etc and perhaps you can see my point.
you speak of Europe as a colony
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you speak of Europe as a colony
:D
Hi Pecker
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sorry english sucks ;D ;D
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Chick, you cant just look at a business plan for 1-2 years. My understanding of this show was threefold.
a) To increase the marquee value and brand name of the IFBB in europe.
b) To expose IFBB Athletes to a potentialy new market and thus considerably increase their earning potential/fanbase in Europe.
c) To reward exsisting european fans and thus bring in new fans to bodybuilding (IFBB) in a market that has seen scant pro shows and top IFBB Pros in recent years.
While I understand the economic constraints around this show may make it difficult to put on, sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. The cancellation of this show does not do the IFBB any good in the Fans/Sponsers or Athletes eyes and shows IMO a lack of business foresight rather than the whole perspective over the next 5 -10 years. Couple that with an underbelly attitude of fuck the fans who have booked tickets/time off work etc and perhaps you can see my point.
Bump for TRUTH.
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There is no answer to bump for...already explained it.
People can speculate all they want...if it was economically viable this year, we would have kept it on the schedule....speculating about what it might/ would/ could do in 3-5 years is ridiculous
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bodybuilding isn't as popular as you pretend it to be
What other reason OTHER than economics, would there be?
If a show can be put on the schedule, and make money, or even break even in the first year or two...then it's viable. There are many factors given to a show getting the green light...especially when it's in Europe. In this case, the economic status currently makes it an impossibility this year.
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There is no answer to bump for...already explained it.
People can speculate all they want...if it was economically viable this year, we would have kept it on the schedule....speculating about what it might/ would/ could do in 3-5 years is ridiculous
Chick - Surely you must agree that any business organisation needs to have, short term/Medium term/long term business plans. Any organisation that does not is fundementaly flawed. While i take on board your point about the financial motives this year for not putting the show on IMHO this decision may well hurt this show in future years.
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Chick - Surely you must agree that any business organisation needs to have, short term/Medium term/long term business plans. Any organisation that does not is fundementaly flawed. While i take on board your point about the financial motives this year for not putting the show on IMHO this decision may well hurt this show in future years.
It may be hurt more by a loss of 300K instead of simply taking a step back and making it a successful venture for the present as well as the future.....next year
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ami and pecker are all but broke
it's not like thats any great unknown revelation
bump for the truth? there it is.
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It may be hurt more by a loss of 300K instead of simply taking a step back and making it a successful venture for the present as well as the future.....next year
The Problem is Next year NEVER comes when it comes to the IFBB,where is that Euro Tour from last year is it on this year as it was cancelled last year.So we are to believe the IFBB are BROKE??TAX FREE DOLLARS are the best.IFBB = Tax Free Dollars.
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It may be hurt more by a loss of 300K instead of simply taking a step back and making it a successful venture for the present as well as the future.....next year
I understand as a representative of the IFBB you have to defend the decision however IMO a short term financial gain is always a poor substitute for long term market gain.
That said, I appreciate you taking the time to explain your viewpoint and respect you for that even if i dont nesacceraly agree.
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I understand as a representative of the IFBB you have to defend the decision however IMO a short term financial gain is always a poor substitute for long term market gain.
That said, I appreciate you taking the time to explain your viewpoint and respect you for that even if i dont nesacceraly agree.
Not quite sure you understood what I wrote....this year was going to turn out to be a LOSS of $300K.
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Not quite sure you understood what I wrote....this year was going to turn out to be a LOSS of $300K.
When i say short term financial gain, i meant for the IFBB not losing 300k. :)
I.E. Their short term financial gain of not losing 300k will cost them more than that in the long term by canceling the show this year.
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ami and pecker are all but broke
AMI owns Weider Enterprises. the IFBB Pro is supposedly a separate company headed by Jim Manion. On the IFBB Pro website, Robin Chang was listed as the promoter. Who had to come up with the $50k franchise fee by April 3?
Does the company that Manion heads invest any money in shows? Or do they just collect the franchise fee in exchange for access to the IFBB signed athletes?
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AMI owns Weider Enterprises. the IFBB Pro is supposedly a separate company headed by Jim Manion. On the IFBB Pro website, Robin Chang was listed as the promoter. Who had to come up with the $50k franchise fee by April 3?
Does the company that Manion heads invest any money in shows? Or do they just collect the franchise fee in exchange for access to the IFBB signed athletes?
Tim Don't ask the Hard Questions.
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those aren't hard questions.
although it is not possible to 100% follow
the money but in my opinion if one could,
they would find the money in bodybuilding generated by
the top dogs of the mags, the supps, the shows
and most recently the forums are an intricate intertwined
carefully crafted circle of business. the money trail just
leads around and around amongst those who really run
the business of the sport of bodybuilding.
makes to much sense for this crowd though i know
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those aren't hard questions.
although it is not possible to 100% follow
the money but in my opinion if one could,
they would find the money in bodybuilding generated by
the top dogs of the mags, the supps, the shows
and most recently the forums are an intricate intertwined
carefully crafted circle of business. the money trail just
leads around and around amongst those who really run
the business of the sport of bodybuilding.
makes to much sense for this crowd though i know
Wat Tha take this story to the IRS.
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When i say short term financial gain, i meant for the IFBB not losing 300k. :)
I.E. Their short term financial gain of not losing 300k will cost them more than that in the long term by canceling the show this year.
Right....interesting theory you've got there
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AMI owns Weider Enterprises. the IFBB Pro is supposedly a separate company headed by Jim Manion. On the IFBB Pro website, Robin Chang was listed as the promoter. Who had to come up with the $50k franchise fee by April 3?
Does the company that Manion heads invest any money in shows? Or do they just collect the franchise fee in exchange for access to the IFBB signed athletes?
Where did you come up with a franchise fee of $50K ?
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Right....interesting theory you've got there
If a company fails to deliver what it says it is going to deliver how does that instill confidence in the product the next time they say they will deliver it. I am sure there are companies/fans in Europe pretty pissed at the decison to cancel. A company, in this case the IFBB, survives on its good name and its ability to deliver. What incentive is there for a sponser to get involved next year when the same excuse could be levied by the IFBB to cancel again? If the IFBB had to take a hit of 300k this year to gain much more over the next 5 -10 years AND keep its good name with sponsers and fans etc then so be it.
Chick you need to see past the next 1-2 years if the IFBB is serious about expanding into Europe.
That is my theory, which I am glad you see is interesting :)
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If a company fails to deliver what it says it is going to deliver how does that instill confidence in the product the next time they say they will deliver it. I am sure there are companies/fans in Europe pretty pissed at the decison to cancel. A company, in this case the IFBB, survives on its good name and its ability to deliver. What incentive is there for a sponser to get involved next year when the same excuse could be levied by the IFBB to cancel again? If the IFBB had to take a hit of 300k this year to gain much more over the next 5 -10 years AND keep its good name with sponsers and fans etc then so be it.
Chick you need to see past the next 1-2 years if the IFBB is serious about expanding into Europe.
That is my theory, which I am glad you see is interesting :)
There is no loss to a company who was POSSIBLY intersted in being a sponsor...the show wasnt scheduled until the week AFTER the Olympia (Oct)...7 months away
You basing your opinion on pure speculation that the long run would be profitable...you have no basis whatsoever to make that assumption...I've given you the FACT that there would have been a net LOSS of $300K for this year...
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There is no loss to a company who was POSSIBLY intersted in being a sponsor...the show wasnt scheduled until the week AFTER the Olympia (Oct)...7 months away
You basing your opinion on pure speculation that the long run would be profitable...you have no basis whatsoever to make that assumption...I've given you the FACT that there would have been a net LOSS of $300K for this year...
If The IFBB does not feel in the long run these shows in Europe would not be profitable why have they planned them? They obviously see the benefits in the long run also. My point is that by pulling the plug this year and not running the show (albiet 7 months in advance) even though it may not be profitable THIS YEAR does not give sponsers much confidence in becoming involved next year when it may well not go ahead again, maybe closer to the show and at some expense to the sponser.
Confidence in a product is everything.
I understand there would be a loss this year but as a business you deliver your product and offset and negate that loss over the next 3-5 years.
Just seems a short sighted business projection too me, as the IFBB MUST think it will be profitable in future years otherwise they would not have the shows planned.
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If The IFBB does not feel in the long run these shows in Europe would not be profitable why have they planned them? They obviously see the benefits in the long run also. My point is that by pulling the plug this year and not running the show (albiet 7 months in advance) even though it may not be profitable THIS YEAR does not give sponsers much confidence in becoming involved next year when it may well not go ahead again, maybe closer to the show and at some expense to the sponser.
Confidence in a product is everything.
I understand there would be a loss this year but as a business you deliver your product and offset and negate that loss over the next 3-5 years.
Just seems a short sighted business projection too me, as the IFBB MUST think it will be profitable in future years otherwise they would not have the shows planned.
We were counting on and estimating a loss this year, so yes, we have speculated that it might be a market that may be worth looking into....and we were prepared to take that loss in hopes of future revenue. That said, like any good businessman, there comes a point where by taking a bath financially, is not worth pursuing (at this time) Given that info, and other factors involved with the production of the event...it became apparent that this year was simply not going to work.
Your theory works on paper, but the reality is...there are no guarantees that the market would be successful AT ALL, let alone in 3-5 years....thats called "throwing good money after bad".
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We were counting on and estimating a loss this year, so yes, we have speculated that it might be a market that may be worth looking into....and we were prepared to take that loss in hopes of future revenue. That said, like any good businessman, there comes a point where by taking a bath financially, is not worth pursuing (at this time) Given that info, and other factors involved with the production of the event...it became apparent that this year was simply not going to work.
Your theory works on paper, but the reality is...there are no guarantees that the market would be successful AT ALL, let alone in 3-5 years....thats called "throwing good money after bad".
Fair enough, just seems a real shame. Hope that the IFBB dont regret the decison in the long run.
Thanks anyway for responding. 8)
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Where did you come up with a franchise fee of $50K ?
is it more?
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mr. Olympia should be once every 4 years.
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What other reason OTHER than economics, would there be?
If a show can be put on the schedule, and make money, or even break even in the first year or two...then it's viable. There are many factors given to a show getting the green light...especially when it's in Europe. In this case, the economic status currently makes it an impossibility this year.
Hi Chick
So 300K, I guess that is what All Stars bill would have been, but after they pulled out, just to make sure one SPonsor pules out and the whole show is gone.
You are talking about next year. I'm not sure how much you knwo about BB or Europe but I'm sure because of this abandonment of this years show, you will lose 300k alone in tickets/hotel/food etc. sale from the fans which already booked for this year and will not show up next year.
If you can't do it this year you won't be able to do it next year. The Economie will not chnage and you won't find any sponsors for a show that has been canceld the year before and 90% of the BB Fans are not will to come to a show which will be canceld in the last minute again.
Thanks for the try but maybe you guys should ask Arnold how he doesn't, but the way you guys do business is not the way it work's, at least not for the European BB fans and Bodybuilders.
Take care
I guess the IFBB is full of people which only see what they wanna see but not what's infront of their eyes
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Hi Chick
So 300K, I guess that is what All Stars bill would have been, but after they pulled out, just to make sure one SPonsor pules out and the whole show is gone.
You are talking about next year. I'm not sure how much you knwo about BB or Europe but I'm sure because of this abandonment of this years show, you will lose 300k alone in tickets/hotel/food etc. sale from the fans which already booked for this year and will not show up next year.
If you can't do it this year you won't be able to do it next year. The Economie will not chnage and you won't find any sponsors for a show that has been canceld the year before and 90% of the BB Fans are not will to come to a show which will be canceld in the last minute again.
Thanks for the try but maybe you guys should ask Arnold how he doesn't, but the way you guys do business is not the way it work's, at least not for the European BB fans and Bodybuilders.
Take care
I guess the IFBB is full of people which only see what they wanna see but not what's infront of their eyes
Good points, but use spellcheck - otherwise it negates your argument and makes you look ''special''
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Hi Chick
So 300K, I guess that is what All Stars bill would have been, but after they pulled out, just to make sure one SPonsor pules out and the whole show is gone.
You are talking about next year. I'm not sure how much you knwo about BB or Europe but I'm sure because of this abandonment of this years show, you will lose 300k alone in tickets/hotel/food etc. sale from the fans which already booked for this year and will not show up next year.
If you can't do it this year you won't be able to do it next year. The Economie will not chnage and you won't find any sponsors for a show that has been canceld the year before and 90% of the BB Fans are not will to come to a show which will be canceld in the last minute again.
Thanks for the try but maybe you guys should ask Arnold how he doesn't, but the way you guys do business is not the way it work's, at least not for the European BB fans and Bodybuilders.
Take care
I guess the IFBB is full of people which only see what they wanna see but not what's infront of their eyes
LOL...if the "last minute" is 7 months out from the date of the show, then I guess that's what we did.
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Why even bother asking Chick BB related questions HE DOESN'T CARE he is the Athletes Rep and works very hard for them and makes sure they get their $1k for 5th at Grand Prix shows.BB is Big Finance we all know that.The IFBB have done and always will do what ever they want.
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"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
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"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
What about the IFBB Pros that make the show will they be getting much Money????
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unemployment in berlin is like 15% eastern europe is worse. if it gets worse they'll start electing communists. it's wise to cancel this event
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Russia has the highest number of Millionaires per capita so why not just move the show to Russia???
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Russia has the highest number of Millionaires per capita so why not just move the show to Russia???
Plus the Russians love a monopoly, especially one run by bodybuilding "oligarchs" :D
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Good points, but use spellcheck - otherwise it negates your argument and makes you look ''special''
I should, but the time is not even worth looking for the spellcheck button in this argument.
back to topic
Atheltes which bust there asses for 16 week's and place as high as 5 in a Pro show only get 1k, what do you want me to say chick.
But if a Atheltet does 50 shows per year he should be fine, oh there are only about 20 show per year ona few of them are canceld, oh and it takes 16weeks to diet. Enough with the talk, in the end nothing will change until the Olympia show will be canceld and the Supplement company's are run by Bodybuilders, like Gasparie Nutrition
I'm sure the price money at the ASC 09 would have been alot higer if the Mr. O would not only give out 155k for the first place.
Kai made more money at the ASC 09 (130.000 + 10.000 + the watch 20.000= 160.000) then he can make at the Mr. Olympia.
Now Kai won the Australia Pro another 10.000 and lets see about the New Zealnd Pro.
My point is, that our Sport is limited by the people who created it.
Sincerely Steven
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Now Kai won the Australia Pro another 10.000 and lets see about the New Zealnd Pro.
what New Zealand Pro?
Next contest: Orlando Pro (Europa Show of Champions) in April
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Pussies. ;D
http://www.joeweidersproworldcup.eu/62.html
On Wednesday March 11th 2009, American Media, Inc. (AMI) and the IFBB Professional League announced the debut of Joe Weider's Pro World Cup in Berlin, Germany will be postponed until 2010.
"Since taking over Weider Publications and Joe Weider's Olympia Weekend in 2004, AMI has been dedicated to expanding bodybuilding not only in the United States, but across the world," AMI Chairman, President and CEO David Pecker said. "Our intention in launching Joe Weider's Pro World Cup is to continue those efforts by hosting an event on par with the biggest and best in the United States.
"Unfortunately, due to the current economic conditions in both America and Europe, it became increasingly apparent that matching the high standards we set every year with Olympia Weekend would be an extremely difficult task. As such, we will be postponing the inaugural Pro World Cup until 2010 in order to ensure that we will be giving the European fans the best possible bodybuilding experience."
In 2010, Joe Weider's Pro World Cup will be held at Messe Hall in Berlin on October 6-10, two weeks after Olympia Weekend. As originally planned, the weekend will include the European Pro Championships, a Powerlifting Supershow, a European FLEX Bikini Model Search and a Superstar Seminar.
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For Marcel:
Afgelopen woensdag kondigde American Media, Inc. (AMI) en de IFBB Professional League aan dat de eerste editie van de Joe Weider's Pro World Cup in Berlijn zal worden uitgesteld tot 2010.
"Sinds de overname van Weider Publications en Joe Weider's Olympia Weekend in 2004 doet AMI er alles aan de bodybuildingsport niet alleen in Amerika maar over de hele wereld groter te maken," zei AMI voorzitter, president en CEO David Pecker. "Onze intentie met het brengen van Joe Weider's Pro World Cup ligt in het vervolg van deze inspanningen door een evenement van de grond te brengen dat zich kan meten met de grootste en beste in de Verenigde Staten.
"Helaas werd door de huidige economische situatie in zowel Amerika als Europa steeds duidelijker dat het extreem moeilijk zou worden de hoge standaard die elk jaar met het Olympia Weekend wordt neergezet te evenaren. Dat is de reden dat we de eerste Pro World Cup zullen uitstellen tot 2010 om er zeker van te zijn dat we de Europese fans de best mogelijke bodybuilding ervaring kunnen geven."
In 2010 zal Joe Weider's Pro World Cup van 6 tot en met 8 oktober in de Messe Hall in Berlijn worden georganiseerd, twee weken na het Olympia Weekend. Zoals oorspronkelijk gepland vinden tijdens het weekend ook de European Pro Championships, een Powerlifting Supershow, een Europese Flex Bikini Model Search en een Superstar Seminar plaats.
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unemployment is the berlin area is about 15% and it gets worse the further you travel east and south east. they are wise to cancel this event
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They will have to wait until World War 3
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I'm devastated ::)
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so what?
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240 Did you have this one on your list.Another one bits the Dust, it's Not like they pay much in Prize Money. ::)
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...as in, "it's no problem to suck a dick or two once in a while, that doesn't make me gay?"
Seriously, one thing i really hate about turks that they always finger around each other and other people as well. I had a turkish guy in university, and everytime i met him at a party or so he was fumbling up other guys all the time, i mean they all do.
For a first greeting, you feel like you are a terrorist in an american custom. If you're not careful, they are up your ass. :-X :-X
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i don't know what you mean
and btw every culture is different...for a turk it's strange that germans are so cold,turks kiss their kids and hug them,you don't see germans do that
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i don't know what you mean
and btw every culture is different...for a turk it's strange that germans are so cold,turks kiss their kids and hug them,you don't see germans do that
unfortunately, that is true very often.
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unfortunately, that is true very often.
just wanted to make clear that they have different cultures
what i like about most germans is that they try to talk and not to punch unlike many other nationals