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Title: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 13, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
This guy is constantly screwing up investments and everybody hails him as business savvy.  He's declared bankruptcy several times and gets a shit load of government tax breaks and handouts for his failed investments. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Buyers-sue-Trump-over-failed-apf-14635951.html
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 13, 2009, 11:01:04 PM
This guy is constantly screwing up investments and everybody hails him as business savvy.  He's declared bankruptcy several times and gets a shit load of government tax breaks and handouts for his failed investments. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Buyers-sue-Trump-over-failed-apf-14635951.html

I don't think enough people realize that the TRUMP name is many times only a licensed brand. I was shocked when I first discovered that. A few years back, they had announced a new upscale residential condo development proposed for downtown Toronto. It was supposed to be like the Trump residences in NYC. When I initially made enquiries about investment opportunities, it turns out it wasn't going to be built by Trump himself, ...he was just licensing his name to the developer. I have a feeling these guys are going to end up with bupkus.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 13, 2009, 11:04:08 PM
So he makes money licensing his name based on his own personal bankruptcies and poor business practices in the past?  LOL That's even worse. 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 13, 2009, 11:27:53 PM
So he makes money licensing his name based on his own personal bankruptcies and poor business practices in the past?  LOL That's even worse. 

No, he makes money based on ...among other things, licensing his name based on his reputation as a winner.

If he's nothing but the big loser you claim himself to be, being able to brand his name and sell it the world over, despite his bankruptcies would make him quite the businessman you claim him not to be... wouldn't it?
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 13, 2009, 11:47:42 PM
No, he makes money based on ...among other things, licensing his name based on his reputation as a winner.

If he's nothing but the big loser you claim himself to be, being able to brand his name and sell it the world over, despite his bankruptcies would make him quite the businessman you claim him not to be... wouldn't it?

Yeah and I'm sure people thought Madoff was a great "businessman".  Trump has declared bankruptcy several times and has received billions of dollars of government subsidies and low interest loans.  He's a fraud. 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MB_722 on March 14, 2009, 12:39:42 AM
He's probably a front man for the Russian and Italian mafia laundering money  ???
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 01:01:27 AM
Yeah and I'm sure people thought Madoff was a great "businessman".  Trump has declared bankruptcy several times and has received billions of dollars of government subsidies and low interest loans.  He's a fraud. 

I don't think those two should be named in the same sentence. One is a businessman, ...the other a crook.

Trump managed to successfully cut through a lot of bureaucratic gov red tape to build NYC a skating rink and save tax payers a heckuvalot in the process. And he's been able to diversify his brand like very few I've ever seen.

Trump has also initiated and undertaken more business project than most too. It only stands to reason that with more ups at bat, ...he's probably also going to have more strike outs and pop flys as well. What's his batting average?

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take --Wayne Gretzky

Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 01:08:57 AM
He's probably a front man for the Russian and Italian mafia laundering money  ???

Life may be extremely uncomfortable for him behind bars. It's gonna be a difficult adjustment that's fer sure!
Can you imagine going from a Park Ave penthouse to a tiny itty bitty (possibly shared cell) with concrete blocks, linoleum floors, and a sink and toilet, ...and only 300 minutes a month of monitored phone time?

I don't doubt he managed to stash away a little bit while out on bail. He may have to use some of it to purchase some protection on the inside. I can't picture a man like him faring well behind bars otherwise.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MB_722 on March 14, 2009, 01:23:38 AM
I meant Trump
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 01:58:36 AM
I meant Trump
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/shocked.gif)
Oh My! Do you mean because of his casino?
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 03:49:16 AM
I don't think those two should be named in the same sentence. One is a businessman, ...the other a crook.

Trump managed to successfully cut through a lot of bureaucratic gov red tape to build NYC a skating rink and save tax payers a heckuvalot in the process. And he's been able to diversify his brand like very few I've ever seen.

Trump has also initiated and undertaken more business project than most too. It only stands to reason that with more ups at bat, ...he's probably also going to have more strike outs and pop flys as well. What's his batting average?

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take --Wayne Gretzky



Haha you are so full of shit it's pathetic.   

 by 1991 increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy[4] and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal re-emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50% ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.[12]

On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel was forced to file a prepackaged Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection plan after being unable to make its debt payments.
After the company applied for Chapter 11 Protection in November 2004, Trump relinquished his CEO position but retained a role as Chairman of the Board. In May 2005[17] the company re-emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings.[18]

On 17 February 2009 Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, Mr Trump having stated on February 13 that he would resign from the board.[
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 03:52:10 AM
Most people get one shot at running a business and if it fails they are done.  Trump had 4.....and he's considered an entrepeneurial guru?   ;D
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 03:58:02 AM
Oh but but but wait........what does Trump have in common with Jaguar "enterprises"????? LMAO!  MLM/Network marketing charlatans!

http://www.trumpnetwork.com/home/Revolution.aspx

 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Deicide on March 14, 2009, 04:20:46 AM
I don't think those two should be named in the same sentence. One is a businessman, ...the other a crook.

Trump managed to successfully cut through a lot of bureaucratic gov red tape to build NYC a skating rink and save tax payers a heckuvalot in the process. And he's been able to diversify his brand like very few I've ever seen.

Trump has also initiated and undertaken more business project than most too. It only stands to reason that with more ups at bat, ...he's probably also going to have more strike outs and pop flys as well. What's his batting average?

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take --Wayne Gretzky



160 IQ
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on March 14, 2009, 04:50:36 AM
He made billions over and over.

Let me tell you something, losing lots of money deserve much more respect than not having that money to lose.

He went bankrupt and came back over and over.....not to mention that he took his father business to a whole other level.....I would have to say that calling him a shitty business man is quite a stretch.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 04:54:38 AM
Ummm not really.  Considering the fact that Citibank and Chase aka JPMorgan bailed his ass out along with major help from the US Government.  He's a terrible businessman who's gotten second and third chances most business owners never get due to his schmoozing and savviness not because of his business skills and ability to run a solid company with strong business fundamentals.  The guy owns casinos as well.......It's not hard to make money ripping people off. 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 14, 2009, 05:04:55 AM
This guy is constantly screwing up investments and everybody hails him as business savvy.  He's declared bankruptcy several times and gets a shit load of government tax breaks and handouts for his failed investments. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Buyers-sue-Trump-over-failed-apf-14635951.html

I thought Tijuana had a terrible smell?

Damn with they had given me some of that money instead of basically throwing it away.  :-X
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on March 14, 2009, 05:30:03 AM
Ummm not really.  Considering the fact that Citibank and Chase aka JPMorgan bailed his ass out along with major help from the US Government.  He's a terrible businessman who's gotten second and third chances most business owners never get due to his schmoozing and savviness not because of his business skills and ability to run a solid company with strong business fundamentals.  The guy owns casinos as well.......It's not hard to make money ripping people off. 

Be sure to scan and post us your bank account holding more money than his. In the meanwhile you clean shit while he made billions over and over, stop being so jealous.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 05:33:43 AM
Be sure to scan and post us your bank account holding more money than his. In the meanwhile you clean shit while he made billions over and over, stop being so jealous.

 ::) 
By the way how old are you? LOL.  Dipshit!
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on March 14, 2009, 05:36:10 AM
::) 
By the way how old are you? LOL.  Dipshit!

Old enough to understand that Trump is a better business man than you  :-*
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 05:38:28 AM
Old enough to understand that Trump is a better business man than you  :-*

And Carl Sagan is smarter than you.....Ronnie Coleman is bigger than you nah nananana na na .what are you twelve?........fucking nerd STFU kid! 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: marcus on March 14, 2009, 05:41:36 AM
I've never been there but I hear nothing but bad things about TJ. Why would people buy property there?  ???
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 14, 2009, 05:50:38 AM
There are plenty of people with a net worth that makes Donald look like a bum, like Warren Buffet.  They show class, while Trump who is poor in comparison acts like an arrogant fuck.

Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on March 14, 2009, 06:15:25 AM
And Carl Sagan is smarter than you.....Ronnie Coleman is bigger than you nah nananana na na .what are you twelve?........fucking nerd STFU kid! 

What the hell? You try to make him look like some bum that is accidentally getting called a business man....the man is a billionaire....you're a fucking fool.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
This is comical.  Calling a billionaire and one of the wealthiest men in America a terrible businessman?  lol . . . .
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Fury on March 14, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
MuscleMcMannus is a nurse. He's much smarter and infinitely more successful than the Donald.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 04:02:42 PM
MuscleMcMannus is a nurse. He's much smarter and infinitely more successful than the Donald.

And what do you do fucktard?  I guess since I'm not Ronnie Coleman I can't criticize him or bodybuilding?  I guess I'll never be President so I can't criticize a President as being terrible?  LMAO!  Nice try genius!
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
This is comical.  Calling a billionaire and one of the wealthiest men in America a terrible businessman?  lol . . . .

You're the type of moron that would probably be thinking the same thing about Bernie Madoff if he was never caught.  You think everyone that makes a billion dollars did it because they are great businessmen with a sound company?  Look at the current bank bailouts.  Some of you are fucking morons and have no clue how the real world works. 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
You're the type of moron that would probably be thinking the same thing about Bernie Madoff if he was never caught.  You think everyone that makes a billion dollars did it because they are great businessmen with a sound company?  Look at the current bank bailouts.  Some of you are fucking morons and have no clue how the real world works. 

Nah.  I'm the type of person who thinks you made a ridiculous comment by calling one of the wealthiest men in the world a "terrible businessman."  Easily one of the dumbest comments I've read on this board.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on March 14, 2009, 06:54:36 PM
Nah.  I'm the type of person who thinks you made a ridiculous comment by calling one of the wealthiest men in the world a "terrible businessman."  Easily one of the dumbest comments I've read on this board.


 ::)  How you got a mod position on this board who knows. 
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Parker on March 14, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
There are plenty of people with a net worth that makes Donald look like a bum, like Warren Buffet.  They show class, while Trump who is poor in comparison acts like an arrogant fuck.



But look how old Warren Buffet is compared to Trump. Agreed Trump has certain attitude, but I like how he told Andrew Dice Clay, that "quiters are losers" And He's right. If Trump, had quite after one bankruptcy, and not soldier on, he wouldn't be where he is today.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 14, 2009, 07:00:09 PM
::)  How you got a mod position on this board who knows. 

 :-*
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 07:40:42 PM
Haha you are so full of shit it's pathetic.   

 by 1991 increasing debt brought Trump to business bankruptcy[4] and the brink of personal bankruptcy. Banks and bond holders had lost hundreds of millions of dollars, but opted to restructure his debt to avoid the risk of losing more money in court. The Taj Mahal re-emerged from bankruptcy on October 5, 1991, with Trump ceding 50% ownership in the casino to the original bondholders in exchange for lowered interest rates on the debt and more time to pay it off.[12]

On November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel was forced to file a prepackaged Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection plan after being unable to make its debt payments.
After the company applied for Chapter 11 Protection in November 2004, Trump relinquished his CEO position but retained a role as Chairman of the Board. In May 2005[17] the company re-emerged from bankruptcy as Trump Entertainment Resorts Holdings.[18]

On 17 February 2009 Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy, Mr Trump having stated on February 13 that he would resign from the board.[

Trump was in Real Estate. That was the era of the S & L fiasco brought on by unregulated BS by George H Bush's son, remember that? Anybody in real estate suffered immensely. He lost it all, ...but you know what, ...he got it all back again didn't he, ...and then some. He then went on to diversify his brand throughout many market sectors and rebuild his brand to such that people want to license his name. I'd say that was one heckuva comeback, and he's one heckuva businessman.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Camel Jockey on March 14, 2009, 07:42:40 PM
Donald couldn't make money with a casino.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 07:55:15 PM
Oh but but but wait........what does Trump have in common with Jaguar "enterprises"????? LMAO!  MLM/Network marketing

http://www.trumpnetwork.com/home/Revolution.aspx
 

Shortly after he recovered from his much publicized financial difficulties, Trump was on the Tonight Show, and he was asked "If you had to do it all again starting from scratch, knowing what you know now, would you have done anything differently?" His response: "I think I would explore the possibilities of Network Marketing". When the host gasped in astonishment, Trump responded "You obviously haven't done your homework". He  then went on to urge both the host and the audience to do their homework. When the audience booed and laughed, ...you know what his response was? "That's why I'm sitting up here, and you're sitting out there!"

Yes, I'm proud to say I'm a network marketer. If you are one of those who are anti-MLM (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=264882.0), I'd suggest you might want to do your homework, just as Trump suggests.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 09:19:07 PM
There are plenty of people with a net worth that makes Donald look like a bum, like Warren Buffet.  They show class, while Trump who is poor in comparison acts like an arrogant fuck.


{giggle} Trump does have quite the EGO though doesn't he? No matter, he can back it up.

Did you know that Warren Buffet is buying up Network Marketing companies?
When asked what would possibly make him do something like that?
his response was "It's the best money I've ever spent" --Warren Buffet
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
But look how old Warren Buffet is compared to Trump. Agreed Trump has certain attitude, but I like how he told Andrew Dice Clay, that "quiters are losers" And He's right. If Trump, had quite after one bankruptcy, and not soldier on, he wouldn't be where he is today.

One of the most common themes I've heard over the years from some of the multi-millionaire mentors whose advice I've been blessed to receive is "If you've never gone completely broke at least once before the age of 30, ...you'll probably never amount to much." Most everyone who has achieved any lasting degree of "success" had tried and failed multiple times over before they got the formula down right. And even then, many continue to experience failures and setbacks. It's not how many times you get knocked off the horse, ...it's your ability to get back up on it again, ...it doesn't matter how often you've crashed and burnned, ...can you rise like a pheonix out of the ashes? Trump can. He's got the right stuff and he never quits 3 feet from gold (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/vision.htm).

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/closerthanuthink.jpg)
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: 24KT on March 14, 2009, 09:54:43 PM
Donald couldn't make money with a casino.

Actually CJ... he did.
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on March 15, 2009, 03:39:13 AM
Can someone ban her BS scam artist con shit?
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: MB_722 on July 27, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
He's probably a front man for the Russian and Italian mafia laundering money  ???

hah I called this 7 years ago !!

Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Dos Equis on July 28, 2016, 08:24:08 AM
hah I called this 7 years ago !!



This hasn't been proved.   
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 28, 2016, 11:54:10 AM
::)  How you got a mod position on this board who knows. 

I've been saying this for a while as well
Title: Re: LOL Trump is a terrible businessman!
Post by: Dos Equis on July 28, 2016, 12:20:11 PM
I've been saying this for a while as well

 :'(