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Title: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: alnassak on March 15, 2009, 01:55:43 AM
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Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Wiggs on March 15, 2009, 02:00:24 AM
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mo fuckin sucks.  Why does get ths hype?
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: io856 on March 15, 2009, 02:06:49 AM
mo fuckin sucks.  Why does get ths hype?
Mo looked very good at the Olympia.


Ahmad really brought a great package to the Arnold its a pity he didn't do well.
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: D_1000 on March 15, 2009, 02:26:13 AM
Ahmed > Moe
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Wiggs on March 15, 2009, 02:32:21 AM
Ahmed > Moe

QFT
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: webcake on March 15, 2009, 02:36:06 AM
Ahmad would place well if he was just a slightly larger version of himself.....
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Arkadius on March 15, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
6th place at Arnold was a HUGE gift for Moe.
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: The.Giant on March 15, 2009, 03:31:46 AM
mo fuckin sucks.  Why does get ths hype?

times a fucking million
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: affeman on March 15, 2009, 03:33:34 AM
Moe is the most overrated joke the BB industry has ever seen (yeah, even tops Silvio) ::)
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2009, 03:40:33 AM
I SAW AHMAD HAIDAR IN TOP 5
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: wes on March 15, 2009, 03:54:09 AM
Once again,Ahmad gets robbed!! :(
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: io856 on March 15, 2009, 04:02:01 AM
I SAW AHMAD HAIDAR IN TOP 5
Same here

Its an unbelievable oversight by the IFBB judges
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 15, 2009, 04:54:18 AM
Same here

Its an unbelievable oversight by the IFBB judges
:-\
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 15, 2009, 05:23:10 AM
Ronnie Rockel gets constantly robbed too...Ahmed lookin great there,as per usual
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: tleilaxutank on March 15, 2009, 05:48:06 AM
Haider's been getting screwed out of placings since most on here have been shaving...
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Chick on March 15, 2009, 06:20:34 AM
Post their back double biceps next to each other....then come back with all your comments.

Amazing the lack of knowledge here....
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: D_1000 on March 15, 2009, 06:33:20 AM
Post their back double biceps next to each other....then come back with all your comments.

Amazing the lack of knowledge here....

These are from the Arnold. Source: http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1303

Your point was? Yes, the lats are high, but I'd still say overall Ahmed > Moe.
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Chick on March 15, 2009, 06:38:15 AM
These are from the Arnold. Source: http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1303

Your point was?

My point is, it's not even close...Ahmed's worst BP is his back/ arms....Mo's best BP is his back/ arms.

Also...try using shots taken at the same time, or at least the same point in the show....one is from PJ, the other is from the finals, where the lighting is completely different
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: The.Giant on March 15, 2009, 06:38:23 AM
I watched the Arnold and Ronnie Rockell/Haidar placed exactly where I thought they would. Ronnie was VERY off from the back.

Haidar, who looks awesome, is just too small when he's compared to the other guys.

Mo's incredibly over-rated and should have placed behind Sergey and probably one or two others.
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 15, 2009, 06:49:53 AM
My point is, it's not even close...Ahmed's worst BP is his back/ arms....Mo's best BP is his back/ arms.

Also...try using shots taken at the same time, or at least the same point in the show....one is from PJ, the other is from the finals, where the lighting is completely different

Robert,

While I usually agree with you on most things...  This wasn't a back and arms contest.  These competitions also look at the other body parts as a whole.

Ahmed has better:

Conditioning
Flow of muscle from one to the other
Abs
Chest
Legs
Glutes
Shoulders

Moe has better:
Back
Arms


Am I missing something here Bobinsky?
"1"
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Chick on March 15, 2009, 07:14:22 AM
Yes.....you are missing something


BEING THERE


The sum of the parts just doesnt add up to a better physique, nor the conditioning...
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: tleilaxutank on March 15, 2009, 08:45:11 AM
My point is, it's not even close...Ahmed's worst BP is his back/ arms....Mo's best BP is his back/ arms.

Also...try using shots taken at the same time, or at least the same point in the show....one is from PJ, the other is from the finals, where the lighting is completely different

so its the lighting that is making Mo look soft as all hell and Haider razor sharp?

 ;D
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: affeman on March 15, 2009, 09:01:43 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=270143.0;attach=309520;image)

Look at this glutes and hams (no homo). Has this guy been dieting?? :-\
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: arce1988 on March 15, 2009, 11:41:06 AM
reverse
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 15, 2009, 11:44:48 AM
The sum of the parts just doesnt add up to a better physique, nor the conditioning...

I thought that in the process of "BODY"-building, the SUM of the parts (Density + Symmetry + Flow + Conditioning) was what ultimately added up to a better physique from one competitor to another.

IFFB judging has 3 rounds if I'm not mistaken:

Round I: symmetry round - Which I believe Ahmed has better symmetry than most PROS in the top 3 at any contest, not to mention WAY better symmetry than Moe.

Round II: Muscularity round - If I'm not mistaken, Moe and Ahmed are not too far apart when it comes to contest weight, that being said, conditioning would then be the judge of the quality of their overall muscle mass..  Hands down, Ahmed takes it.

Round III: Posing round - Ahmed's routine is better than Moe's routine.


Besides dismissing my point by capitalizing "BEING THERE", what is it that I am truly missing here Bobinsky?


"1"
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: Big_Tymer on March 15, 2009, 11:45:48 AM
Ahmed > Moe

agreed
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: genrommel74 on March 15, 2009, 11:48:32 AM
I thought that in the process of "BODY"-building, the SUM of the parts (Density + Symmetry + Flow) is what ultimately adds up to a better physique than another competitor.

IFFB judging has 3 rounds if I'm not mistake:

Round I: symmetry round - Which I believe Ahmed has better symmetry than most PROS in the top 3 at any contest, not to mention WAY better symmetry than Moe.

Round II: Muscularity round - If I'm not mistaken, Moe and Ahmed are not too far apart when it comes to contest weight, that being said, conditioning would then be the judge of the quality of their overall muscle mass..  Hands down, Ahmed takes it.

Round III: Posing round - Ahmed's routine is better than Moe's routine.


Besides dismissing my point by capitalizing "BEING THERE", what is it that I am truly missing here Bobinsky?


"1"


moe is 30 to 40 lbs heavier than ahmad. ahmad comes in 200 to 210, moe comes in at 240. there contest weights are nowhere near each other. and when moe stands next to ahmad he dwarfs him
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: aliamini on March 15, 2009, 12:52:01 PM
moe was good for 3rd to 6th depending ... Ahmed was batteling for the last 2 places

judging was fare  ... i would have given Victor 1st and most muscular to Kai ... but that is why u have 9-12 judges
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: alnassak on March 15, 2009, 09:49:55 PM
Robert,

While I usually agree with you on most things...  This wasn't a back and arms contest.  These competitions also look at the other body parts as a whole.

Ahmed has better:

Conditioning
Flow of muscle from one to the other
Abs
Chest
Legs
Glutes
Shoulders

Moe has better:
Back
Arms


Am I missing something here Bobinsky?
"1"

x2
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: alnassak on March 15, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
I thought that in the process of "BODY"-building, the SUM of the parts (Density + Symmetry + Flow + Conditioning) was what ultimately added up to a better physique from one competitor to another.

IFFB judging has 3 rounds if I'm not mistaken:

Round I: symmetry round - Which I believe Ahmed has better symmetry than most PROS in the top 3 at any contest, not to mention WAY better symmetry than Moe.

Round II: Muscularity round - If I'm not mistaken, Moe and Ahmed are not too far apart when it comes to contest weight, that being said, conditioning would then be the judge of the quality of their overall muscle mass..  Hands down, Ahmed takes it.

Round III: Posing round - Ahmed's routine is better than Moe's routine.


Besides dismissing my point by capitalizing "BEING THERE", what is it that I am truly missing here Bobinsky?


"1"

Great post from a great poster..  :)

Nice to have such honest people in Getbig   ;)
Title: Re: 6thMoe Elmosawi VS 12thAhmed Haider ..??!!
Post by: alnassak on March 15, 2009, 09:53:46 PM
Yes.....you are missing something


BEING THERE


The sum of the parts just doesnt add up to a better physique, nor the conditioning...


I used to like all what you say but after this …

This is really the most stupid thing that you have ever said ..  :-X

Sorry chick but I still like you and I know why you said so since you are IFBB athletes rep   ;D
  ;)