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NFLN thinks so.......stay tuned.
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If this goes through, it pretty much guarantees Seymour is gone. Correct?
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I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?
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I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?
All great points and all of them make sense. However, I stopped asking about the pats trades after they brought in Welker. They have made to many good trades to know wtf they are doing until you see it on the field.
Then again, Bill could be fucking around with people just to do it, and then trade up in the draft and shock everyone.
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If this goes through, it pretty much guarantees Seymour is gone. Correct?
absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job
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absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job
I thought Seymours contract was up after this season? If they get Peppers, i can't see them paying him, Seymour as well as Wilfork who's contract is up. I could be wrong.
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I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?
ofcourse he can play de in a 3-4. He's 280 pounds of pure muscle. Not some 255 pound speed rusher like most 4-3 ends.
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I thought Seymours contract was up after this season? If they get Peppers, i can't see them paying him, Seymour as well as Wilfork who's contract is up. I could be wrong.
body is better suited to answer this, i'm not sure their financial situation.
i'm sure they can hold onto their core and get peppers on top of it
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I find this hard to believe. Peppers was franchised by the Panthers, right? What would the Pats have to give up in order to acquire him in a trade? A first and second?
And also....this guy is a 4-3 DE. He may be a freakish athlete but he's no LB and has not been one in his entire 8 year NFL career.
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I find this hard to believe. Peppers was franchised by the Panthers, right? What would the Pats have to give up in order to acquire him in a trade? A first and second?
And also....this guy is a 4-3 DE. He may be a freakish athlete but he's no LB and has not been one in his entire 8 year NFL career.
No, Vic Carruci says the #34 pick. Peppers wants to be traded and Carolina can let him go for whatever they see fit. Also, keep in mind Seymour's contract is up next season. Who knows at this point. If there was ever a great elephant LB candidate, it would be Peppers.
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absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job
Doubtful....they just extended Warren and he is a beast. He will either play DE or an elephant lb...which he is suited for.
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body is better suited to answer this, i'm not sure their financial situation.
i'm sure they can hold onto their core and get peppers on top of it
Seymour is up....they are trying to extend Wilfork now and Warren was just locked up. Maybe big Sey is done in NE?
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Seymour is up....they are trying to extend Wilfork now and Warren was just locked up. Maybe big Sey is done in NE?
dude i know seyour will cost more than warren but why sign warren and let seymour go? just ehhh. Seymour is a freak moreso than warren and he is just flat out better player.
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dude i know seyour will cost more than warren but why sign warren and let seymour go? just ehhh. Seymour is a freak moreso than warren and he is just flat out better player.
Warren is already singed and has been for a year now. Warren is a beast and he came at a great price. He is only 26 years old and he wanted to sign something long term so they locked him up. He could have gotten way more on the open market. They locked Warren up before the start of last season. They need to extend Wilfork as he is the cornerstone of the entire D....and he is a beast. They can keep Seymour if they want to, but Sey is the one who didn't want to redo his deal last year.
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Warren is already singed and has been for a year now. Warren is a beast and he came at a great price. He is only 26 years old and he wanted to sign something long term so they locked him up. He could have gotten way more on the open market. They locked Warren up before the start of last season. They need to extend Wilfork as he is the cornerstone of the entire D....and he is a beast. They can keep Seymour if they want to, but Sey is the one who didn't want to redo his deal last year.
sey knew is he s a perenial pro bowler, perhaps he just wants out, test the market
and i agree, wilfork is he premier nose tackle in the league. along with hampton and rogers
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why are these teams even considering trading their best players to super bowl threats ::)
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ofcourse he can play de in a 3-4. He's 280 pounds of pure muscle. Not some 255 pound speed rusher like most 4-3 ends.
Would he want to play DE in a 3-4. He won't get stats, he will be used as a plug between guard and tackle and the LBs will make all the plays. I don't see him wanting to do that. I don't see how he would be able to cover a RB coming out of the backfield. From what I have seen of his lateral footwork, it ain't All Pro level. Imaging him trying to chase Sproles, or Chris Johnson.
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sey knew is he s a perenial pro bowler, perhaps he just wants out, test the market
and i agree, wilfork is he premier nose tackle in the league. along with hampton and rogers
Maybe. Also, with so many teams switching to the 3/4.....good players are getting harder to find.
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Would he want to play DE in a 3-4. He won't get stats, he will be used as a plug between guard and tackle and the LBs will make all the plays. I don't see him wanting to do that. I don't see how he would be able to cover a RB coming out of the backfield. From what I have seen of his lateral footwork, it ain't All Pro level. Imaging him trying to chase Sproles, or Chris Johnson.
He could be a true elephant lb in the 3/4.
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As of right now the Panthers are denying any talks with the Pats.
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As of right now the Panthers are denying any talks with the Pats.
That's only because Peppers has yet to sign the one year franchise tender offer of $16.7 MILLION. According to league rules, they can't talk trade until Peppers is officially a member of the Panthers.
Holy shit that's a lot of dough..... :o :o :o
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That's only because Peppers has yet to sign the one year franchise tender offer of $16.7 MILLION. According to league rules, they can't talk trade until Peppers is officially a member of the Panthers.
Holy shit that's a lot of dough..... :o :o :o
Oh,I didn't know that.
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why are these teams even considering trading their best players to super bowl threats ::)
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Peppers is forcing their hand. He doesn't want to play for the Panthers anymore and the Panthers have franchised him which forbids him to sign with another team as a free agent. Trading him to the Patriots takes him over to the AFC. Why would the Panthers care about trading him to an AFC non-conference team, such as the Patriots? Obviously, it's only a concern to the fans of other contending AFC teams, such as the Steelers.
One thing I do know....the Panthers better get WAY MORE than the Patriots #34 second round pick. That's a bullshit trade exchange that only benefits the Patriots. The Panthers should be asking for a minimum of a first and a third round pick.
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Adam Shefter said on EEI this morning that he is 99.99% sure that Pepper will not be a Patriot next year.
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Adam Shefter said on EEI this morning that he is 99.99% sure that Pepper will not be a Patriot next year.
Shefter is usually correct, so this one looks like a rumor, UNLESS he is tyring to take the heat of the Panthers for this story being leaked before peppers signs his tender.
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Peppers is forcing their hand. He doesn't want to play for the Panthers anymore and the Panthers have franchised him which forbids him to sign with another team as a free agent. Trading him to the Patriots takes him over to the AFC. Why would the Panthers care about trading him to an AFC non-conference team, such as the Patriots? Obviously, it's only a concern to the fans of other contending AFC teams, such as the Steelers.
One thing I do know....the Panthers better get WAY MORE than the Patriots #34 second round pick. That's a bullshit trade exchange that only benefits the Patriots. The Panthers should be asking for a minimum of a first and a third round pick.
Thats not always the case, imo. Teams who draft smart don't want high picks. They come with huge contracts and if the guy sucks you are screwed. Look at Jamarcus Russel. The pats traded down to 15 last year, they got their man and they didn't have to spend a ton of cash. The pats have a first rounder at 23 and thats not a huge jump from 34. This draft is supposed to be loaded with defensive talent and the second rounders are not that far off the first rounders talent wise. Also, if Peppers does not want to play for the Panthers they have to take the most they can get for him, because why have a unhappy guy there, and why keep yourself handcuffed in free agency and the draft. They have no cap money until Peppers makes a decision.
Thats why you saw the Pats let Cassel go when they did. They valued the 34th pick and they couldn't sign and resign guys like Fred Taylor, Leigh Bodden, James Sanders, Tank Williams, Mike Wright, Joey Galloway and Russ Hochstein until they cleared Cassels 14 mill from the cap.
Also, look at how the Cowboys use a guy like Demarcus Ware....look how much they rush him. Thats what Peppers would be in the Pats system. He's got the athletic skill to do it, imo.
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Shefter is usually correct, so this one looks like a rumor, UNLESS he is tyring to take the heat of the Panthers for this story being leaked before peppers signs his tender.
He is the best part of that show each week. The guy just always seems to be spot on, and he's very honest in his assessments.
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He is the best part of that show each week. The guy just always seems to be spot on, and he's very honest in his assessments.
Big shows talks are going on....the money is holding it up. Pats are interested, but the money might be to high.
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Thats not always the case, imo. Teams who draft smart don't want high picks. They come with huge contracts and if the guy sucks you are screwed. Look at Jamarcus Russel. The pats traded down to 15 last year, they got their man and they didn't have to spend a ton of cash. The pats have a first rounder at 23 and thats not a huge jump from 34. This draft is supposed to be loaded with defensive talent and the second rounders are not that far off the first rounders talent wise. Also, if Peppers does not want to play for the Panthers they have to take the most they can get for him, because why have a unhappy guy there, and why keep yourself handcuffed in free agency and the draft. They have no cap money until Peppers makes a decision.
Thats why you saw the Pats let Cassel go when they did. They valued the 34th pick and they couldn't sign and resign guys like Fred Taylor, Leigh Bodden, James Sanders, Tank Williams, Mike Wright, Joey Galloway and Russ Hochstein until they cleared Cassels 14 mill from the cap.
Also, look at how the Cowboys use a guy like Demarcus Ware....look how much they rush him. Thats what Peppers would be in the Pats system. He's got the athletic skill to do it, imo.
That's why he'll likely be traded elsewhere, if he gets traded at all. The Panthers could get a lot more from another team than the #34 overall pick in the draft. There are teams out there that would compensate a lot higher than what the Pats would.
The guy is not a LB and never has been one. He's a three point stance DE in a 4-3 scheme and he's very likely to play on a team with that defensive philosophy in 2009. Sorry, not buying that this guy could all of sudden adjust and dominate playing the 'elephant' position in a 3-4 after 7 NFL seasons and at age 29.
Just respectufully disagreeing with your comparison to Demarcus Ware. Both sick athletes for sure, but has Peppers even dropped back in zone or man coverage in a cover 2? Don't think so.
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That's why he'll likely be traded elsewhere, if he gets traded at all. The Panthers could get a lot more from another team than the #34 overall pick in the draft. There are teams out there that would compensate a lot higher than what the Pats would.
The guy is not a LB and never has been one. He's a three point stance DE in a 4-3 scheme and he's very likely to play on a team with that defensive philosophy in 2009. Sorry, not buying that this guy could all of sudden adjust and dominate playing the 'elephant' position in a 3-4 after 7 NFL seasons and at age 29.
Just respectufully disagreeing with your comparison to Demarcus Ware. Both sick athletes for sure, but has Peppers even dropped back in zone or man coverage in a cover 2? Don't think so.
This is exactly what I was thinking. NO WAY he would assent to becoming a DE in a 3-4, and doesn't have the ability to play in coverage in a 3-4 as an OLB.
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That's why he'll likely be traded elsewhere, if he gets traded at all. The Panthers could get a lot more from another team than the #34 overall pick in the draft. There are teams out there that would compensate a lot higher than what the Pats would.
The guy is not a LB and never has been one. He's a three point stance DE in a 4-3 scheme and he's very likely to play on a team with that defensive philosophy in 2009. Sorry, not buying that this guy could all of sudden adjust and dominate playing the 'elephant' position in a 3-4 after 7 NFL seasons and at age 29.
Just respectufully disagreeing with your comparison to Demarcus Ware. Both sick athletes for sure, but has Peppers even dropped back in zone or man coverage in a cover 2? Don't think so.
Buzz up!198 votes PrintCHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP)—Julius Peppers wants out of Carolina and wouldn’t mind going to New England. The Panthers will let him go only for what they feel is fair compensation.
The long-running offseason drama involving the four-time Pro Bowl defensive end is nowhere near a resolution, leaving the Panthers without salary-cap space and Peppers’ future uncertain.
A day after the Panthers dismissed an NFL.com report that Peppers was close to being dealt to New England for a second-round pick, a person close to Peppers said Tuesday the Patriots are one of the teams for which he’d like to play.
The Dallas Cowboys and two other unidentified NFC teams also are on Peppers’ four-team wish list, according to the same person, speaking on condition of anonymity because the trade talks were supposed to remain confidential.
But there are several obstacles that must be cleared before Peppers leaves Charlotte. The biggest is that the Panthers have placed the franchise tag on their career sacks leader. That required them to offer him a one-year tender for $16.7 million that counts immediately counts against the salary cap, leaving the Panthers no cap space to make any other moves in free agency.
Under the nonexclusive franchise tag rules, Peppers could sign with another team only if that club gave up two first-round draft picks in return. There is precedent for teams letting a franchise player go for less compensation—Kansas City traded defensive end Jared Allen to Minnesota last year for a first-round pick and two third-round choices—but any kind of deal now is tricky because Peppers hasn’t signed his tender with Carolina.
Until he does, the Panthers are barred from any trade talks involving Peppers. His agent can negotiate with other teams, then can come to the Panthers with a deal for them to accept or reject.
General manager Marty Hurney said in a statement Monday they’ve not been presented with any trade proposals.
It’s also uncertain that the Panthers would be willing to accept only a second-round pick—as the NFL.com report suggested—for a player who had 14 1/2 sacks last season and is the cornerstone of their defensive line.
Peppers, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2002 draft, announced last month that he wouldn’t sign a long-term deal with Carolina and wanted to play outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. The Patriots are among the teams that use that defense.
I don't know....we shall see how it shakes out. I def not going to question the pats talent evaluation.....it's among the very best in the NFL consistently.
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Peppers is forcing their hand. He doesn't want to play for the Panthers anymore and the Panthers have franchised him which forbids him to sign with another team as a free agent. Trading him to the Patriots takes him over to the AFC. Why would the Panthers care about trading him to an AFC non-conference team, such as the Patriots? Obviously, it's only a concern to the fans of other contending AFC teams, such as the Steelers.
i doubt the pats are the only team they can trade him to, a smart team would never trade a star player to a super bowl favorite regardless what conference they play in
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i doubt the pats are the only team they can trade him to, a smart team would never trade a star player to a super bowl favorite regardless what conference they play in
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Of course there are other teams he can be traded to and for much better compensation. If the the Panthers receive fair compensation for Peppers that they are happy with, I doubt it really matters to the Panthers what team he's traded to. In today's NFL, most teams can come out of nowhere each season and be a contender, regardless.
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Of course there are other teams he can be traded to and for much better compensation. If the the Panthers receive fair compensation for Peppers that they are happy with, I doubt it really matters to the Panthers what team he's traded to. In today's NFL, most teams can come out of nowhere each season and be a contender, regardless.
Fucking Dolphins >:(
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This guy is an athletic freak man:
Despite the fact that Peppers had never played football before. Davis' gamble would pay off: during his high school career, Peppers played running back and defensive lineman, and finished his career with 3501 rushing yards, and 46 touchdowns, and was one of the most dangerous defensive linemen in the state. He also lettered in basketball and was voted All-Conference, as a power forward, for four consecutive years. In 1998 Southern Nash won the state championship in track for the first time in the school's history. Peppers contributed, as a sprinter winning the state championship in the 4x200 meter team relay and as a triple jumper
Peppers played defensive end for the UNC Tar Heels, where he won the Chuck Bednarik Award for the nation's top defensive player and the Lombardi Award as the best collegiate lineman in 2001. Peppers redshirted his freshmen season. In the three following seasons at North Carolina, Peppers started 33 of the 34 games he played in. He is currently ranked second all-time in UNC history with 30.5 sacks. He accumulated 53 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 167 tackles, five interceptions, two fumble recoveries, five forced fumbles, 13 passes defensed and 42 quarterback pressures (hurries) and returned two interceptions and one fumble recovery for touchdowns.
While at the University of North Carolina, Peppers was also a member of the Men's Basketball Team. He was a key reserve on the 1999-2000 Tar Heels team that made it to the Final Four. Peppers was also a key reserve on the 2000-2001 Men's Basketball Team. In the NCAA Tournament, Peppers scored 18 points and grabbed 10 rebounds in a loss to Penn State in the second round. After the season, Peppers decided to focus solely on football and academics and did not play basketball in his final season at the University of North Carolina.
Peppers ran a 4.68 40-yard dash at 290 pounds (130 kg) and completed 22 bench press reps at his pro day. Peppers made an immediate impact and was named The NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. During his rookie season, Peppers tallied 36 tackles, 12 sacks, 1 interception, and 5 forced fumbles.
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Shefter is usually correct, so this one looks like a rumor
Which means this thread went full circle, wheels spinning in the sand. :-\
Body seems knowledgeable on salary cap considerations but he's entirely right that he's not up on understanding why someone would fit in to the team. Not just Welker, completely off on Moss too unlike some. ;) ;) ;)
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This guy is an athletic freak man:
Despite the fact that Peppers had never played football before. Davis' gamble would pay off: during his high school career, Peppers played running back and defensive lineman, and finished his career with 3501 rushing yards, and 46 touchdowns, and was one of the most dangerous defensive linemen in the state. He also lettered in basketball and was voted All-Conference, as a power forward, for four consecutive years. In 1998 Southern Nash won the state championship in track for the first time in the school's history. Peppers contributed, as a sprinter winning the state championship in the 4x200 meter team relay and as a triple jumper
Peppers played defensive end for the UNC Tar Heels, where he won the Chuck Bednarik Award for the nation's top defensive player and the Lombardi Award as the best collegiate lineman in 2001. Peppers redshirted his freshmen season. In the three following seasons at North Carolina, Peppers started 33 of the 34 games he played in. He is currently ranked second all-time in UNC history with 30.5 sacks. He accumulated 53 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 167 tackles, five interceptions, two fumble recoveries, five forced fumbles, 13 passes defensed and 42 quarterback pressures (hurries) and returned two interceptions and one fumble recovery for touchdowns.
While at the University of North Carolina, Peppers was also a member of the Men's Basketball Team. He was a key reserve on the 1999-2000 Tar Heels team that made it to the Final Four. Peppers was also a key reserve on the 2000-2001 Men's Basketball Team. In the NCAA Tournament, Peppers scored 18 points and grabbed 10 rebounds in a loss to Penn State in the second round. After the season, Peppers decided to focus solely on football and academics and did not play basketball in his final season at the University of North Carolina.
Peppers ran a 4.68 40-yard dash at 290 pounds (130 kg) and completed 22 bench press reps at his pro day. Peppers made an immediate impact and was named The NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. During his rookie season, Peppers tallied 36 tackles, 12 sacks, 1 interception, and 5 forced fumbles.
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This guy is an athletic freak man:
Despite the fact that Peppers had never played football before. Davis' gamble would pay off: during his high school career, Peppers played running back and defensive lineman, and finished his career with 3501 rushing yards, and 46 touchdowns, and was one of the most dangerous defensive linemen in the state. He also lettered in basketball and was voted All-Conference, as a power forward, for four consecutive years. In 1998 Southern Nash won the state championship in track for the first time in the school's history. Peppers contributed, as a sprinter winning the state championship in the 4x200 meter team relay and as a triple jumper
Peppers played defensive end for the UNC Tar Heels, where he won the Chuck Bednarik Award for the nation's top defensive player and the Lombardi Award as the best collegiate lineman in 2001. Peppers redshirted his freshmen season. In the three following seasons at North Carolina, Peppers started 33 of the 34 games he played in. He is currently ranked second all-time in UNC history with 30.5 sacks. He accumulated 53 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 167 tackles, five interceptions, two fumble recoveries, five forced fumbles, 13 passes defensed and 42 quarterback pressures (hurries) and returned two interceptions and one fumble recovery for touchdowns.
While at the University of North Carolina, Peppers was also a member of the Men's Basketball Team. He was a key reserve on the 1999-2000 Tar Heels team that made it to the Final Four. Peppers was also a key reserve on the 2000-2001 Men's Basketball Team. In the NCAA Tournament, Peppers scored 18 points and grabbed 10 rebounds in a loss to Penn State in the second round. After the season, Peppers decided to focus solely on football and academics and did not play basketball in his final season at the University of North Carolina.
Peppers ran a 4.68 40-yard dash at 290 pounds (130 kg) and completed 22 bench press reps at his pro day. Peppers made an immediate impact and was named The NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. During his rookie season, Peppers tallied 36 tackles, 12 sacks, 1 interception, and 5 forced fumbles.
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Too bad he's wasting it on pro football...should have gone pro bber....... ;D
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peppers wasnt near 290 at the combine
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Which means this thread went full circle, wheels spinning in the sand. :-\
Body seems knowledgeable on salary cap considerations but he's entirely right that he's not up on understanding why someone would fit in to the team. Not just Welker, completely off on Moss too unlike some. ;) ;) ;)
NFLN was the one who reported Peppers to the pats, not me. Also, if you dug a little deeper, you would find the article below. As for Welker, no idea what you are talking about there.....two years ago I was happy when the pats signed him. Moss I was wrong about....you were right about that one.
Q: They didn’t seem to move Peppers around much.
BB: I don’t think they need to move him. He causes plenty of problems where he is. He’s a hard guy to deal with. He’s hard to run at. He’s hard to throw at. That’s where most of the right-handed quarterbacks have to throw, into that left side. He’s a factor there one way or the other. Because the offense usually extends a little bit to try to take care of him, they like to bring to the linebackers and blitz them up inside, whether it’s [Will] Witherspoon or Morgan or [Brandon] Short, whoever it is. So, as the line widens, to take Peppers and give attention to Peppers, that opens up a lot of the inside pressures for them. So, they do a good job of that. He’s a good player. We talked about last week [Randy] Moss being kind of in a special category offensively for the Raiders. I think you have to put Peppers in that same, whatever category that is, defensively. You have to know where he is every play. If they move him, they move him. If they don’t, sometimes they drop him. Sometimes they stunt him. A lot of times when they move him, they move him after the snap. In other words, the ball is snapped and he’s stunts down inside or he’s on a gain or something like that. It’s not like he doesn’t move off of that spot. But, for the most part, he does align there. At times he reduces down. But for the most part, he is on that tackle.
Q: What about when he was at receiver? Didn’t they throw him a couple of jump balls in the corner of the end zone last year?
BB: Yes. Well, he has played tight end.
Q: What do you do there?
BB: It’s hard. He’s a hard guy to match up against. The guy could probably play… he certainly could play outside linebacker. We know he can play defensive end. I imagine he could probably move inside and play defensive tackle. There's no question he could play tight end. He probably could play offensive tackle. He's 290-something pounds. You're talking about a guy that could probably play six or seven positions on the field. That's pretty unusual.
Q: I was wondering because in that game, that Super Bowl game, there were a number of plays that you guys went right at Peppers, whether it was with Daniel Graham or Richard [Seymour] on the goal line play and took care of him on those particular plays. Since then, how has Julius changed?
BB: Well, I think any player that has had a couple of extra years in the league gets better and I think Peppers is better now than he was then, but he was pretty good then too. He's a guy that we had to account for heavily in that game and did take into consideration in terms of our protections and our calls and even the plays that we ran. I don't think you want to run every single play throwing away from a corner or run away from a certain player on every single play. I think you have to do enough to keep them honest. But, there's no question that Peppers is a guy that you have to game plan for offensively. You have to know where he is. He can ruin the game and we've seen that plenty of times.
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I've watched Peppers from his days at UNC and now with the Panthers. He can look like the best DE in the league one game and then disappear the next. Not a highly motivated guy on a regular basis. Athletic freak who can do damn near whatever he wants on the field. He just takes too many plays off.
Wish the idiot Panthers would send him to Denver for Cutler in some type of deal. Throw Delhomme in.
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This guy is an athletic freak man:
Despite the fact that Peppers had never played football before. Davis' gamble would pay off: during his high school career, Peppers played running back and defensive lineman, and finished his career with 3501 rushing yards, and 46 touchdowns, and was one of the most dangerous defensive linemen in the state. He also lettered in basketball and was voted All-Conference, as a power forward, for four consecutive years. In 1998 Southern Nash won the state championship in track for the first time in the school's history. Peppers contributed, as a sprinter winning the state championship in the 4x200 meter team relay and as a triple jumper
Peppers played defensive end for the UNC Tar Heels, where he won the Chuck Bednarik Award for the nation's top defensive player and the Lombardi Award as the best collegiate lineman in 2001. Peppers redshirted his freshmen season. In the three following seasons at North Carolina, Peppers started 33 of the 34 games he played in. He is currently ranked second all-time in UNC history with 30.5 sacks. He accumulated 53 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 167 tackles, five interceptions, two fumble recoveries, five forced fumbles, 13 passes defensed and 42 quarterback pressures (hurries) and returned two interceptions and one fumble recovery for touchdowns.
While at the University of North Carolina, Peppers was also a member of the Men's Basketball Team. He was a key reserve on the 1999-2000 Tar Heels team that made it to the Final Four. Peppers was also a key reserve on the 2000-2001 Men's Basketball Team. In the NCAA Tournament, Peppers scored 18 points and grabbed 10 rebounds in a loss to Penn State in the second round. After the season, Peppers decided to focus solely on football and academics and did not play basketball in his final season at the University of North Carolina.
Peppers ran a 4.68 40-yard dash at 290 pounds (130 kg) and completed 22 bench press reps at his pro day. Peppers made an immediate impact and was named The NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. During his rookie season, Peppers tallied 36 tackles, 12 sacks, 1 interception, and 5 forced fumbles.
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No disrespect but that's not very strong for a 290 pounder, IMO. I put up 18 reps at 205 a few years ago in my heavier lifting days. That being said, being that strong never got me a job in the NFL making millions, either. :-\
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No disrespect but that's not very strong for a 290 pounder, IMO. I put up 18 reps at 205 a few years ago in my heavier lifting days. That being said, being that strong never got me a job in the NFL making millions, either. :-\
I agree that it's not much.
But how many guys at that size can run that forty (4.68) and do that 22rep bench?
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I agree that it's not much.
But how many guys at that size can run that forty (4.68) and do that 22rep bench?
This is true. He's also 6'6" tall with arms longer than my legs.
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No disrespect but that's not very strong for a 290 pounder, IMO. I put up 18 reps at 205 a few years ago in my heavier lifting days. That being said, being that strong never got me a job in the NFL making millions, either. :-\
True, but he has proven to be a HOF player on the field for the last seven years, so I think your point is pretty much irrelevant in this case.
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True, but he has proven to be a HOF player on the field for the last seven years, so I think your point is pretty much irrelevant in this case.
Thanks for the reality check, Body88. I knew I could count on you for that! ;)
You did notice that the second half of my statement was self-depricating, right? No need to be harsh....
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No disrespect but that's not very strong for a 290 pounder, IMO. I put up 18 reps at 205 a few years ago in my heavier lifting days. That being said, being that strong never got me a job in the NFL making millions, either. :-\
peppers wasnt even close to 290 at the combine
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Thanks for the reality check, Body88. I knew I could count on you for that! ;)
You did notice that the second half of my statement was self-depricating, right? No need to be harsh....
Yes, I did notice that....not trying to be harsh :)
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peppers wasnt even close to 290 at the combine
That guys a beastttttttttttttt
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Peppers wasn't that far removed from basketball when he went to the combine either. He was in more basketball shape than football at that time.
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