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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FLYLO on March 17, 2009, 03:35:21 PM
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Can IFBB be sued by a former member for: wrongful dismissal, negligence, defamation, emotional distress, loss of work....
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Can IFBB be sued by a former member for: wrongful dismissal, negligence, defamation, emotional distress, loss of work....
Anyone can sue anyone....
That said...you join the club and agree to abide by the rules set forth, they dont HAVE to let you in for any reason
Winning such a suit would be far fetched
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Anyone can sue anyone....
That said...you join the club and agree to abide by the rules set forth, they dont HAVE to let you in for any reason
Winning such a suit would be far fetched
thanks Chick.
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That said...you join the club and agree to abide by the rules set forth, they dont HAVE to let you in for any reason
a business is not a club. and you can't sign away your civil rights. then there is probably something about monopolies.
while a business doesn't have to hire someone (then again, none of the athletes are employees), it's certainly illegal for a business to threaten other businesses with retaliation if they hire someone.
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a business is not a club. and you can't sign away your civil rights. then there is probably something about monopolies.
while a business doesn't have to hire someone (then again, none of the athletes are employees), it's certainly illegal for a business to threaten other businesses with retaliation if they hire someone.
As you pointed out...no one is "hired" here...
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then there is probably something about monopolies.
Yes, the IFBB would certainly fall foul of many countries' competition laws.
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Yes, the IFBB would certainly fall foul of many countries' competition laws.
Probably not...there are plenty of other federations out there
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Chick id like to sue you for punitive damages.
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Probably not...there are plenty of other federations out there
Probably yes...the fact that the IFBB is the dominant federation but bans bodybuilders for competing in other federations is clearly an abuse of monopoly power.
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Remember all that false bravado and name calling years back. Yes, it was 'the midget' threatening to sue the IFBB!
Well, 'the midget' did jack shit. Last reports, he is still grovelling and has a 'new found' repect for the industry (that apparently 'bent him over' time and time again)!
No credibility in my humble opinion!
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Probably yes...the fact that the IFBB is the dominant federation but bans bodybuilders for competing in other federations is clearly an abuse of monopoly power.
Athletes are free to compete where ever they wish..."exclusivity" is something you willfully sign up and agree to when you join the club
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Athletes are free to compete where ever they wish..."exclusivity" is something you willfully sign up and agree to when you join the club
Doesn't matter. The IFBB is clearly abusing its position as the market leader to reduce competition, hence breaking most countries' competion law. This isn't even econ 101 ::)
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The Midget openly and stridently threatened to 'bring down' and expose the IFBB. Well, that got him far...not!
Bottom line, the organisation is corrupt to the core.
Just looks pretty sad and pathetic to want to sue an organisation that exists without any professional ethics or standards.
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As you pointed out...no one is "hired" here...
let me state it again:
while a business doesn't have to hire someone (then again, none of the athletes are employees), it's certainly illegal for a business to threaten other businesses with retaliation if they (the other businesses) hire someone.
if Milos lost contracts with third parties because Chua or others threatened those third parties with retaliation, that would be illegal
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let me state it again:
while a business doesn't have to hire someone (then again, none of the athletes are employees), it's certainly illegal for a business to threaten other businesses with retaliation if they (the other businesses) hire someone.
if Milos lost contracts with third parties because Chua or others threatened those third parties with retaliation, that would be illegal
Good luck proving that..
Your example has nothing to do with this situation....
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Good luck proving that..
Your example has nothing to do with this situation....
What would be so hard to prove it. If a certain business decided to come forward and make a statement saying the IFBB threatened to do something that would hurt their business if they supported Milos or whatever I think that would be proof enough especially since they would have records of phone calls and emails and other correspondence.
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good discussion.
let's hear some other viewpoints.
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What would be so hard to prove it. If a certain business decided to come forward and make a statement saying the IFBB threatened to do something that would hurt their business if they supported Milos or whatever I think that would be proof enough especially since they would have records of phone calls and emails and other correspondence.
1. being a suspende athlete restricts what you can do anyway
2. Never seen it happen thus far, not to say it cant
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If a high powered law-firm really gave a shit, I am confidant that an anti-trust suit would be a realistic scenerio agaisnt the IFBB. Problem is that NO ONE cares.
Business as usual.
M!
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:)
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I honestly don't think Milos will pursue a lawsuit against the federation; from what I have read of his posts, he respects the IFBB, and speaks highly of the sport.
For the record: Milos witnessed a contradiction to a fair competition.
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Sood.
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Legal advice from Bob Chick. Great. Bob Chick has no education to speak of, much less a degree in jurisprudence. His opinions on Employment Law aren't worth the dried up cum on a Peep Show floor. The guy can barely spell.
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Legal advice from Bob Chick. Great. Bob Chick has no education go speak of, much less a degree in jurisprudence. His opinions on Employment Law aren't worth the dried up cum on a Peep Show floor. The guy can barely spell.
I'm not giving legal advice, I;m giving MY opinion on the matter....as for education...I went to college for criminal justice, and then went through the police academy before working as a deputy sheriff for 3 years
Speaking of being able to spell...what does "Bob Chick has no education go speak of..." mean?
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The entire IFBB needs an overhaul, heads must roll and corruption must be rooted out, the likes of Chua are operating as if its still the 1970's, these dinosaurs should be as extinct as their ideas and way of thinking!
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I'm not giving legal advice, I;m giving MY opinion on the matter....as for education...I went to college for criminal justice, and then went through the police academy before working as a deputy sheriff for 3 years
Speaking of being able to spell...what does "Bob Chick has no education go speak of..." mean?
Your opinion ain't worth jack.
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Bob is quite an intelligent man I reckon
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Bob is quite an intelligent man I reckon
He dresses like Cap'n Crunch.
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I dont know who cap n crunch is ???
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I dont know who cap n crunch is ???
try using teh google now and then
http://www.capncrunch.com/
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Wouldn't you know it...Milos' post got deleted. I bet GB "suspended" his account. I wonder if Chick can help him re-instate his GB membership. Too bad, it was a good discussion GB-style ;D
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If i sued the IFBB for everything they had.....how much would i get?
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If i sued the IFBB for everything they had.....how much would i get?
you would get: Dexter Jackson and all the Olympia winners of 2008!!!
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you would get: Dexter Jackson and all the Olympia winners of 2008!!!
wow!! :o
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Wouldn't you know it...Milos' post got deleted. I bet GB "suspended" his account. I wonder if Chick can help him re-instate his GB membership. ......
:) :) :)
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wow!! :o
....and that's not all!
You get Bob Chickee too. ;D
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you would get: Dexter Jackson and all the Olympia winners of 2008!!!
already had one Mr Olympia
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already had one Mr Olympia
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Wouldn't you know it...Milos' post got deleted. I bet GB "suspended" his account. I wonder if Chick can help him re-instate his GB membership. Too bad, it was a good discussion GB-style ;D
Yeah, I'd like to know why the thread got nuked.
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Yeah, I'd like to know why the thread got nuked.
Bob Chick has mod powers on the G&Schmoe?
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Bob Chick has mod powers on the G&Schmoe?
I've got mod powers everywhere...that said, why would I delete a thread I had half the posts in?
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I've got mod powers everywhere...that said, why would I delete a thread I had half the posts in?
I didn't see it, but it's safe to assume Milos was handing you your ass. :)
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I've got mod powers everywhere...that said, why would I delete a thread I had half the posts in?
But do you know why it was deleted?
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But do you know why it was deleted?
probably because the relationship between Ben Weider and Chua was being explored
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I didn't see it, but it's safe to assume Milos was handing you your ass. :)
LOL...yeah, thats it
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Bob it is obvious that you get great pleasure out of bating and mocking Milos.
Milos seems to play along with it though.... I am not quite sure why.
Anyway, my point is; Milos will use any situation to his advantage. He is ruthless and calculating.
-Bob are you concerned that if Milos' assault on the IFBB is successful, will his mere presence and influence irreversibly harm bodybuilding?
Bob, you have worked tirelessly for this sport, surely you must fear that with Milos 'back on the inside' he could threaten to undo all of your good work???
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Bob it is obvious that you get great pleasure out of bating and mocking Milos.
Milos seems to play along with it though.... I am not quite sure why.
Anyway, my point is; Milos will use any situation to his advantage. He is ruthless and calculating.
-Bob are you concerned that if Milos' assault on the IFBB is successful, will his mere presence and influence irreversibly harm bodybuilding?
Bob, you have worked tirelessly for this sport, surely you must fear that with Milos 'back on the inside' he could threaten to undo all of your good work???
I'm not concerned in the least
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no, the schomes would just blackmail him :-\
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Fair enough Bob.
You are very consistent in your responses to Milos.
It appears that you just dont take him seriously! It is evident from your responses that you see him as a joke!
I think Milos is riled and angered by the way you dismiss and belittle him!
My fear is, that one day, you will hit his Serbian-fuse and full on war will be unleashed!
Bob, just be careful which buttons you push! Milos has a history of destroying those who stand in his way!
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Really? Name one
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are there still professional BB's ??? I am shocked...
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you need to get laid.. and maybe take up golf.. or fishing.
...or maybe take up professional bodybuilding ;D ;D