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Title: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 08:10:32 AM
Some pics of him.

From the Olympia 2007, why the fuck wasn't he at the finalists?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kiwiol on March 19, 2009, 08:13:21 AM
Some pics of him.

From the Olympia 2007, why the fuck wasn't he at the finalists?

He has freaky bodyparts and looks good from the side as well as in a couple of poses. But he has a long, strangely shaped torso with a very wide waist, weak back and poor taper that ruins his look in most of the mandatories, especially the front and the back ones. Same as guys like Jim Quinn and Alex Federov.

Has great legs, though.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Mars on March 19, 2009, 08:13:51 AM
(http://s5.tinypic.com/win38y.jpg)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: JasonH on March 19, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
Looks good but his waist appears a bit wide. Reminds me a bit of Kovacs.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: affeman on March 19, 2009, 08:14:45 AM
Probably the biggest and hardest BB out there these days.

Horrible waistline he can't do anything about tough, so he won't do any harm.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Mars on March 19, 2009, 08:17:57 AM
he just lacks the perfect genetics like martinez has, big gap between chest, mid section out of control.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 08:21:36 AM
he just lacks the perfect genetics like martinez has, big gap between chest, mid section out of control.

I think his chest looks pretty good but his waist is the problem, it messes lots of poses....awesome bb though.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 19, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
he's kyomu's husband.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: L00n on March 19, 2009, 09:19:01 AM
insane bicep shot.  :o
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 19, 2009, 09:25:47 AM
Let's get down to brass tacs... would you fuck him? I would, no doubt about it
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: local hero on March 19, 2009, 09:53:59 AM
huge, awsome condition,,,,,horrible shape!
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: knny187 on March 19, 2009, 09:57:30 AM
Shape & gut
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: burn2live on March 19, 2009, 09:58:44 AM
Shape and all that, but I think his condition compensates to an extent. Bit of politics I think
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Parker on March 19, 2009, 10:00:30 AM
Paco is the very embodiment of a collection of bodyparts put together...he's not underated,  he's the best example of sewn together bodyparts.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Mars on March 19, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
yes you cant really say he has bad genetics because he has great biceps and leggs.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: BIG_STI on March 19, 2009, 10:28:46 AM
huge gh gut
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Euro-monster on March 19, 2009, 10:35:43 AM
yes you cant really say he has bad genetics because he has great biceps and leggs.

lets say he has good genetics for biceps and legs but he is still missing a chest ffs..
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Doug_Steele on March 19, 2009, 10:39:49 AM
Didn't Paco start out as a Powerlifter? I saw his shoulders in one of his shows a few years back and it was filled with oil but he was rewarded.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: affy on March 19, 2009, 10:43:42 AM
awesome individual body parts

but as a whole he just looks weird. 
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Wiggs on March 19, 2009, 01:01:34 PM
Dude is a barrel with giant arms and legs sticking out.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 19, 2009, 01:10:03 PM
He's the 21st Century Jim Quinn
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: tbombz on March 19, 2009, 01:31:48 PM
kyomu will get a hard on when he reads the title of this thread
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2009, 02:05:55 PM
Dude is a barrel with giant arms and legs sticking out.
Once again I agree with Wiggs
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 02:29:13 PM
huge gh gut

Paco doesn't have the slightest distension on his gut, he just has a genetically WIDE waist.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 02:52:15 PM
Telling the truth, his physic is very difficult to judge.
When it comes to the density, top 3 of the world i think.
Mass,one of the biggest.

but

Very bad shape.

Its very tough to judge.
I have never thought that he deserved top 6,never.
But around 10th place due to his excellent density.

Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 02:53:38 PM
kyomu will get a hard on when he reads the title of this thread
Haha. i will tell him tomorrow.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2009, 02:55:03 PM
Thick and grainy as a cock made out of granite.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 02:57:14 PM
Thick and grainy as a cock made out of granite.
Yes, today we did legs and my legs cut disappear very quickly because of pump.
But hell.. his legs stay cut and shredded deeply. The guy is a mutant.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 03:04:13 PM
kyomu, at what age did Paco started competing?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: tbombz on March 19, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
Yes, today we did legs and my legs cut disappear very quickly because of pump.
But hell.. his legs stay cut and shredded deeply. The guy is a mutant.
you dont think the drugs he takes has anything to do with the difference ?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:08:27 PM
kyomu, at what age did Paco started competing?
I dont remeber very well. Around 20. Cus he was junior competitor.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:10:24 PM
you dont think the drugs he takes has anything to do with the difference ?
Wrong.
Cus my mid seccion is dryer than him now.
Its a genetic. Some peoples legs are dryer than their abs.
There are some people like that around you also.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: tbombz on March 19, 2009, 03:11:55 PM
Wrong.
Cus my mid seccion is dryer than him now.
Its a genetic. Some peoples legs are dryer than their abs.
There are some people like that around you also.
you said that you worked out legs together, and the pump in your legs caused your leg seperation to go away, bu the pump in his legs didnt take away his leg seperation.


which has nothign to do with your post about genetic differences regarding where peopl store fat/water.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: gilles on March 19, 2009, 03:16:06 PM

you pump together with paco many times kymu ?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
Too bad Paco doesn't have a training dvd out yet..
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:20:37 PM
you said that you worked out legs together, and the pump in your legs caused your leg seperation to go away, bu the pump in his legs didnt take away his leg seperation.


which has nothign to do with your post about genetic differences regarding where peopl store fat/water.
Absolutely yes. Pump is a blood flow.Water retention is also blood flow.
Of course his cut of legs also go away. But, not like me.
There is a young kid in the gym. And whose genetic of fat storege is similar to paco and it happens same as paco.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:21:50 PM
Too bad Paco doesn't have a training dvd out yet..
He will do it within this year for sure.
Yesterday, we were talking about that. Maybe I will be in there too.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2009, 03:23:08 PM
Paco 2nd in Night of Champions was great physique a few years back
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:24:05 PM
Paco 2nd in Night of Champions was great physique a few years back
No, he was third next to Soft Bob chic.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2009, 03:25:06 PM
Thats the one Marcus won yes?
Oh I thought he came 2nd,anyway he looked amazing that day,I like Paco
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 03:26:08 PM
He will do it within this year for sure.
Yesterday, we were talking about that. Maybe I will be in there too.

Hes slowly becoming one of my fav's pros...
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:27:50 PM
Thats the one Marcus won yes?
Oh I thought he came 2nd,anyway he looked amazing that day,I like Paco
Yes. Marcus was really awsome.
Paco was suckin dry. He recalled that his tongue broke a part and blood coming out due to not drinking water 3 days. :o
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2009, 03:29:02 PM
Yeah,Paco had no oil on him either which made him appear even drier
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
Hes slowly becoming one of my fav's pros...
I have seen numerous pros training and competing. But, no one surprised me that much when it comes to his super density and crazy mass.
I have seen Dorian 1994 and 1996 in SP grand prix. But Pacos physic looks crazier than that of Dorian.(Dont take me wrong, I didnt say paco is better. Never.)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 19, 2009, 03:32:41 PM
How old are you Kyomu?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Drama Queen on March 19, 2009, 03:33:41 PM
KYOMU >>> Paco
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
Yeah,Paco had no oil on him either which made him appear even drier
Paco hates those bbers with oil to death. Even become furious.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
KYOMU >>> Paco
Hahaha. Good joke. ;D
But, unlike other pros, the guy is a very strict and crazy hard trainer. I hate pros who train like pussy like Paul Dillet and Flex Wheeler when I visit Golds around 1 month.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: tbombz on March 19, 2009, 03:38:20 PM
Hahaha. Good joke. ;D
But, unlike other pros, the guy is a very strict and crazy hard trainer. I hate pros who train like pussy like Paul Dillet and Flex Wheeler when I visit Golds around 1 month.
you said before you saw flex wheeler doin bicep curls with a light weight, but he was making them very hard. you said paco trains the same way.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Method101 on March 19, 2009, 03:39:11 PM
Paco's quads are shaped like Ice Shards instead of the usual "tear drop" shop.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=270705.0;attach=310183;image)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:41:06 PM
you said before you saw flex wheeler doin bicep curls with a light weight, but he was making them very hard. you said paco trains the same way.
He does very right weight. But very hard? No. so so.
IF I said that I apologize you that I was wrong. Paco trains light but he trains as if he is posing.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: tbombz on March 19, 2009, 03:41:59 PM
He does very right weight. But very hard? No. so so.
IF I said that I apologize you that I was wrong. Paco trains light but he trains as if he is posing.
what do you mean by that ?

could you explain how paco trains? is it the way he always trained?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: gilles on March 19, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
do paco also do guest pump kymu ?
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
what do you mean by that ?

could you explain how paco trains? is it the way he always trained?
Mostly.
Today I did squat with paco style and hardly I couldnt achive 20 reps of 100kg(2 plates each side.).
On the top position, You squeeze extra hard your quads and glutes for a second and go down and up and do that again.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:46:17 PM
do paco also do guest pump kymu ?
I dont really understand what you say.
He did guest posing in the last sunday.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Meso_z on March 19, 2009, 03:47:42 PM
what do you mean by that ?

could you explain how paco trains? is it the way he always trained?

I think he means contracting the muscle by sqeezing it..
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 19, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
I think he means contracting the muscle by sqeezing it..
Yes. Always does peak contraction.
According to him, that makes hardness.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: BayGBM on March 19, 2009, 06:48:29 PM
Let's get down to brass tacs... would you fuck him? I would, no doubt about it


Name the day! ;D

Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Doug_Steele on March 19, 2009, 06:51:56 PM


Name the day! ;D



You never know unless you try!
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 10:20:36 PM
He is in stage 3 Pacoism(an advanced stage of Palumboism)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: BayGBM on March 19, 2009, 11:05:37 PM
You never know unless you try!

There isn't a schmoe in the world who wouldn't go there! :D
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: EwaBeachBoy on March 19, 2009, 11:12:14 PM
Paco was doing a lot better when he had the worse gyno in the IFBB

He should have kept the gyno!
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Method101 on March 19, 2009, 11:59:31 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229839.0;attach=268925;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229839.0;attach=268927;image)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: m8 on March 20, 2009, 05:31:35 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229839.0;attach=268925;image)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229839.0;attach=268927;image)

paco very strung men
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Stavios on March 20, 2009, 07:49:47 AM
Paco was doing a lot better when he had the worse gyno in the IFBB

He should have kept the gyno!

holly shit !!!!!
that's BAD !!!
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Moen on March 20, 2009, 08:41:40 AM
Walk us through let's say a back training session with paco kyomu. I think I've read on here you guys train close to two hours per bodypart or something? Give us the exercises, sets, reps, rest periods, to failure, the whole shabang!


I agree on him being underrated, not a pleasing shape true, however I feel they should judge more on what the competitiors actually have an impact on rather than what they are born with
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: lovemonkey on March 20, 2009, 09:16:55 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 20, 2009, 10:00:28 AM
Walk us through let's say a back training session with paco kyomu. I think I've read on here you guys train close to two hours per bodypart or something? Give us the exercises, sets, reps, rest periods, to failure, the whole shabang!


I agree on him being underrated, not a pleasing shape true, however I feel they should judge more on what the competitiors actually have an impact on rather than what they are born with
I dont train with him in every workout except legs.
Why? Cus training legs is painful and need somebody who train very seriously.

We train together when our training body part is same. But Still at least 3 days of week we train together.

Back workout.

We change everytime. But last week.

Cable  straight arm pull down 12repsX5sets
Chining   failureX4sets
Dumbell row 10X4sets
Cable row 10X4sets
machine pull over 10X4sets
Lat pull down 10X4sets
Dead lift 10X4sets

All the sets were peformed to failure.
So, need serious stamina.

Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2009, 10:04:09 AM
No, he was third next to Soft Bob chic.

Couldn't have been too soft....I beat your boy
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Stavios on March 20, 2009, 10:04:54 AM
BODYBUILDING IS THE MUSCLE !!!
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 20, 2009, 10:06:35 AM
Couldn't have been too soft....I beat your boy
Not too soft. You have good spectaclar shape. But, still you looked softer than the other competitors.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 20, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
BODYBUILDING IS THE MUSCLE !!!
He always says to me, "El culturismo es chicha"
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2009, 10:20:36 AM
Not too soft. You have good spectaclar shape. But, still you looked softer than the other competitors.



Thats why they judge on how a competitor looks OVERALL, as in "all things considered"....thats why your boy Paco doesn't do too well, other than being hard and muscular....he lacks shape, proportion, symmetry, balance.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: kyomu on March 20, 2009, 10:24:16 AM

Thats why they judge on how a competitor looks OVERALL, as in "all things considered"....thats why your boy Paco doesn't do too well, other than being hard and muscular....he lacks shape, proportion, symmetry, balance.
Yes agreed.

Its only my opinion. Dont mind. If I hurt your feeling, I apologize to you.
Just I wanted you to be bit more harder to beat Paco,honestly.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Chick on March 20, 2009, 11:42:12 AM
Yes agreed.

Its only my opinion. Dont mind. If I hurt your feeling, I apologize to you.
Just I wanted you to be bit more harder to beat Paco,honestly.

No problem, you aint hurting my feelings...just educating you as to why he placed where he did.

The judges wanted him to have more shape, symmety and proportion to beat me, honestly.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: D_1000 on March 20, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
No problem, you aint hurting my feelings...just educating you as to why he placed where he did.

The judges wanted him to have more shape, symmety and proportion to beat me, honestly.

No need to "educate" him, I think. He himself wrote in this thread:

Telling the truth, his physic is very difficult to judge.
When it comes to the density, top 3 of the world i think.
Mass,one of the biggest.

but

Very bad shape.

Its very tough to judge.
I have never thought that he deserved top 6,never.
But around 10th place due to his excellent density.
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: BayGBM on March 20, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: mantronik on March 20, 2009, 09:16:45 PM
Paco's quads are shaped like Ice Shards instead of the usual "tear drop" shop.

finally a remark about his teardrops.
don't know why nobody else sees that he has weird, flat teardrops, but ofcourse huge, ripped legs.
I just don't like his v.medialis  :-\
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: Stavios on March 20, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
finally a remark about his teardrops.
don't know why nobody else sees that he has weird, flat teardrops, but ofcourse huge, ripped legs.
I just don't like his v.medialis  :-\

you have some incredible teardrops yourself, you Caribbean beast  8)
Title: Re: Paco Bautista - underated
Post by: mantronik on March 20, 2009, 10:04:53 PM
You ain't too shabby either Canadian hunk