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Title: L-Carnitine
Post by: Stavios on March 19, 2009, 05:44:22 PM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Fatpanda on March 19, 2009, 05:49:50 PM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !

bullshit, it has no value as a fat loss supplement, and there are better anti oxidents.

an increase in vitamin c would probably yeild more carnitine in the body. also at the level of protein you take in as a bodybuilder you will have everything your body needs to make carnitine if it needs/wants it.

buy some dbol instead  :D
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 19, 2009, 05:52:21 PM
When I read "Fatpanda's" posts it is clear this man has tried every diet/ diet pill/ weight loss regime known to mankind ;D
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: maxxmuscle on March 19, 2009, 05:56:34 PM
Injectable form is the only one worth using.......
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Stavios on March 19, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
bullshit, it has no value as a fat loss supplement, and there are better anti oxidents.

an increase in vitamin c would probably yeild more carnitine in the body. also at the level of protein you take in as a bodybuilder you will have everything your body needs to make carnitine if it needs/wants it.

buy some dbol instead  :D

ok fuck it then !

thanks
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: GetItOnNY on March 19, 2009, 06:15:54 PM
The problem with L-Carnatine is it gets a bad wrap just like Pyruvate does, because these companies and people call them fat burners.L-Carnatine is responsible for turning food into an energy source, put in simple terms.
Just like Pyruvate, converts Carbohydrates into useable energy.
Both supplements do work, when are used properly and the right amounts.The problem is nobody takes enough of either one of nutrients to give they a fair chance.
For example when the research on Pyruvate was done, they were using 5 grams a day.Most people take one 500 mg capsule and expect it to work.If you take 5 grams of Pyruvate you will notice incredable amounts of enduance, and you get pretty good pumps off if it to.
So with L-Carnatine if you take enough of it, you will notice a little more endurance and more useable energy.
It wont wire you like caffiene but you will have more stamina and consistant energy
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: calfzilla on March 19, 2009, 06:25:28 PM
I researched it a little and decided not to waste my money on it. 
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Brutal_1 on March 19, 2009, 06:38:41 PM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !

It can be useful...depends how it's used though.  Unfortunately, the studies done on it have used no less than 2-3 GRAMS per serving...do the math  :-X
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on March 19, 2009, 06:46:34 PM
The problem with L-Carnatine is it gets a bad wrap just like Pyruvate does, because these companies and people call them fat burners.L-Carnatine is responsible for turning food into an energy source, put in simple terms.
Just like Pyruvate, converts Carbohydrates into useable energy.
Both supplements do work, when are used properly and the right amounts.The problem is nobody takes enough of either one of nutrients to give they a fair chance.
For example when the research on Pyruvate was done, they were using 5 grams a day.Most people take one 500 mg capsule and expect it to work.If you take 5 grams of Pyruvate you will notice incredable amounts of enduance, and you get pretty good pumps off if it to.
So with L-Carnatine if you take enough of it, you will notice a little more endurance and more useable energy.
It wont wire you like caffiene but you will have more stamina and consistant energy

Excellent post from GetItOnNY (as usual).  I felt nothing on 1 gram a day .... but when I jumped it to 5-6 grams before a workout I had better pumps and endurance.  I'm not hawking any brand here either.  Just the truth.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: elite_lifter on March 19, 2009, 07:33:59 PM
pyruvate at 5g is expensive, not worth the cost.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on March 19, 2009, 07:36:03 PM
Agreed. I was refering to L-Carnitine.  Still pricey at 5-6 grams though.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 19, 2009, 07:50:32 PM
Move more, eat less
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Devon97 on March 19, 2009, 08:18:16 PM
Injectable form is the only one worth using.......

Agreed.

WIll supress appetite, BOOST energy and reduce cravings.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: GetItOnNY on March 19, 2009, 08:22:30 PM
Thank you Grant.
You know whats funny, is L-Carnatine, and Pyruvate arent really that expensive raw materials to purchase and bottle.The only problem is L-carnatine, and Pyruvate in there raw form taste like Battery Acid.
Trust me once you try to consume a teaspoon of Pyruvate the flavor is so bad it never goes away.
We used to make a flavored Pyruvate drink mix, that contained 3 grams of Pyruvate per serving.Beleive it or not people to this day still talk about how well that product worked and we stopped product it 7-8 years ago, lol.
I think alot of supplement like L-Carnatine, Pyruvate, and even Kre-alaklyn get a bad wrap because people try it, but they never get the right dosage, and never stay on it long enough.
A perfect example, the makers of Kre-Alaklyn say on there bottle take 1.5 grams  per day.Now Kre-Alkalyn I believe is the holy grail of all Creatines ever created.But the problem is unless you get atleast 4-5 grams a day its totally useless, I mean useless.The sad truth is 1.5 grams of even Kre-Alklayn is even enough for a 10 year old boy, lol.But since Kre-Akayln is so expensive they try ot make it cost effective.
But if you can afford to take 5 grams of Kre-Alaklyn per day, its well worth it.It makes the old Phaspagen creatine for EAS that every one raved about look like baking soda.
Also if you buy Kre-Alkalyn in capsules, take it out of the capsules, and throw the capsules in the trash.Then put the powder in a good carbohydrate drink like Waxey Maze Starch, or even grape juice.Yes Grape Juice isnt a bad transport ,its simple but it works.Just dont drink to much of it, or it will clean your  pipes
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Fatpanda on March 19, 2009, 08:26:25 PM
When I read "Fatpanda's" posts it is clear this man has tried every diet/ diet pill/ weight loss regime known to mankind ;D

When I read your posts it is clear you are a fool.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 19, 2009, 08:31:48 PM
When I read your posts it is clear you are a fool.

No need to get defensive and upset bro. I just notice that you talk a lot about fat loss and seem very knowledgeable on the subject of fatness and loss of said fat 8)
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Fatpanda on March 19, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
No need to get defensive and upset bro. I just notice that you talk a lot about fat loss and seem very knowledgeable on the subject of fatness and loss of said fat 8)

more knowledgable than you, yes.

you claim you know much, yet everyone on getbig knows you are another gimmick as proved by the fact you have never and will never post a pic.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 19, 2009, 08:37:43 PM
 "Fat"panter

I have never claimed to know shit. I just lift and eat, simple, end of story.

If I don't want to be as fat I move more and eat less. You're melting down over this makes me think you're not been successful in your quest to be a less fat panda, yes?
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: dustin on March 19, 2009, 08:49:37 PM
Looks great on paper. Too expensive. There are other forms of Carnitine but they're far more expensive and really not worth it... if I could find a CHEAP ass bulk source I would use it as a staple.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: TechnoViking on March 19, 2009, 09:43:20 PM
The problem with L-Carnatine is it gets a bad wrap just like Pyruvate does, because these companies and people call them fat burners.L-Carnatine is responsible for turning food into an energy source, put in simple terms.
Just like Pyruvate, converts Carbohydrates into useable energy.
Both supplements do work, when are used properly and the right amounts.The problem is nobody takes enough of either one of nutrients to give they a fair chance.
For example when the research on Pyruvate was done, they were using 5 grams a day.Most people take one 500 mg capsule and expect it to work.If you take 5 grams of Pyruvate you will notice incredable amounts of enduance, and you get pretty good pumps off if it to.
So with L-Carnatine if you take enough of it, you will notice a little more endurance and more useable energy.
It wont wire you like caffiene but you will have more stamina and consistant energy

What do you think of Kamali's new supplement Plazmosis?
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: GetItOnNY on March 19, 2009, 10:35:28 PM
Its just him, its a joke
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Rami on March 20, 2009, 01:43:45 AM
Move more, eat less

shhh! it's supposed to be a secret...

Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: affeman on March 20, 2009, 02:19:50 AM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !

You abuse GH and ask if L-Carnitine is worth buying it?? ;D
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: gordiano on March 20, 2009, 02:22:05 AM
The problem with L-Carnatine is it gets a bad wrap just like Pyruvate does, because these companies and people call them fat burners.L-Carnatine is responsible for turning food into an energy source, put in simple terms.
Just like Pyruvate, converts Carbohydrates into useable energy.
Both supplements do work, when are used properly and the right amounts.The problem is nobody takes enough of either one of nutrients to give they a fair chance.
For example when the research on Pyruvate was done, they were using 5 grams a day.Most people take one 500 mg capsule and expect it to work.If you take 5 grams of Pyruvate you will notice incredable amounts of enduance, and you get pretty good pumps off if it to.
So with L-Carnatine if you take enough of it, you will notice a little more endurance and more useable energy.
It wont wire you like caffiene but you will have more stamina and consistant energy

Good to know. Any side effects to taking 5 grams of Pyruvate or L-carnatine, say daily?
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 20, 2009, 04:07:43 AM
As libido boosters acetyl-l-carnitine and propionyl-l-carnitine are pretty good. It can have other neural benefits as well.

As a fat burner, fuggetaboutit.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DK II on March 20, 2009, 04:09:32 AM
You abuse GH and ask if L-Carnitine is worth buying it?? ;D

Good point.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: LatsMcGee on March 20, 2009, 04:12:01 AM
I've been mixing my carnitine with Plazmosis and the results are amazing.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DK II on March 20, 2009, 04:16:15 AM
I've been mixing my carnitine with Plazmosis and the results are amazing.

Astonishing!

I started taking Plaz' and i went from this:

(http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/pitw/Jay%20Cutler.gif)


to this in 3 weeks:

(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/jay_cutler2.jpg)*





























*Disclaimer: Pictures show Jay Cutler 3 weeks apart, results may vary. This supplement ist not FDA approved.


Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Fatpanda on March 20, 2009, 09:03:32 AM
"Fat"panter

I have never claimed to know shit. I just lift and eat, simple, end of story.

If I don't want to be as fat I move more and eat less. You're melting down over this makes me think you're not been successful in your quest to be a less fat panda, yes?

nice try gimmick, but the only way you own me is to post a pic, untill then shhhh.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Stavios on March 20, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
You abuse GH and ask if L-Carnitine is worth buying it?? ;D
;D

3 IU a day is not abuse !  ;D

I just want as many weapon as possible in my arsenal  8)
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Mons Venus on March 20, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !

Carnitine TARTRATE in ample amounts is very effective.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Charlys69 on March 20, 2009, 01:12:41 PM
As libido boosters acetyl-l-carnitine and propionyl-l-carnitine are pretty good. It can have other neural benefits as well.

As a fat burner, fuggetaboutit.

 
it´s an "no must" supplement, but the 2 above posted versions of L-carnitine have the ability to increase the amount of androgen-receptors in muscles naturally....
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: GetItOnNY on March 20, 2009, 01:47:21 PM
Good to know. Any side effects to taking 5 grams of Pyruvate or L-carnatine, say daily?

Thats a good question.Pyruvate is naturally occuring in alot of foods we eat, we just dont enough of it in our daily diet.If you took much Pyruvate all that would happen is you would get a case of the runs.
Niether one of these supplements have any known side effects, because they are pretty much from Natural sources.
The only thing I will warn you about is if you buy Pyruvate make sure is Calcium Pyruvate, and not Sodium Pyruvate, or Magnesium Pyruvate.Pyruvic Acid is usually  to be bonded to a salt , so companies bond it to Calcium ,Sodium ,Magnesium.The only one that is proven to do anything is Calcium.The others are useless .If you read Dr Sanko's Pyruvate, it had alot of promising effects.If you eat alot of Carbohydrates, and you want endurance Pyruvate will give you alot of endurance and stamina .

Somebody sent me a PM asking me about D-Ribose, and does it work
D-Ribose is just fermented sugar, thats about it.There is nothing to it.
D-Ribose might give you a little energy because it is made from sugar.But last I checked it was pretty expensive for just being made from sugar.There is no solid research backing D-Ribose, and it effects on energy.
It has the same benegits as sugar, because it is sugar.....God Bless
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: emn1964 on March 20, 2009, 02:01:38 PM
"Fat"panter

I have never claimed to know shit. I just lift and eat, simple, end of story.

If I don't want to be as fat I move more and eat less. You're melting down over this makes me think you're not been successful in your quest to be a less fat panda, yes?

i think you touched a nerve delts.  you think he was the fat kid in school that always got picked on and those hurt feelings are still raw today?
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: wavelength on March 20, 2009, 02:13:04 PM
All supps are bullshit of course.
Protein powder is convenient, but that's not a supplement.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: emn1964 on March 20, 2009, 03:25:44 PM
All supps are bullshit of course.
Protein powder is convenient, but that's not a supplement.

and i would like to see a study that says that even protein powder is effective.  all the processing and baking and cooking of that shit basically robs it of any nutritional value.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: tbombz on March 20, 2009, 03:45:22 PM
is it worth it or it's bullshit ?

speak on this !

injectable l carnitine and use with humalog.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DK II on March 21, 2009, 02:10:17 AM
All supps are bullshit of course.
Protein powder is convenient, but that's not a supplement.

Disagree.

Creatine, ß-Alanin and single amino acids are good supplements.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: affeman on March 21, 2009, 03:23:10 AM
Disagree.

Creatine, ß-Alanin and single amino acids are good supplements.

Any pics to show us what they've done for you??
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: DK II on March 21, 2009, 03:32:46 AM
Any pics to show us what they've done for you??

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Fatpanda on March 21, 2009, 03:37:09 AM
Disagree.

ß-Alanin and single amino acids are good supplements.

no they are not.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: kreator on March 21, 2009, 04:38:53 AM
The problem with L-Carnatine is it gets a bad wrap just like Pyruvate does, because these companies and people call them fat burners.L-Carnatine is responsible for turning food into an energy source, put in simple terms.
Just like Pyruvate, converts Carbohydrates into useable energy.
Both supplements do work, when are used properly and the right amounts.The problem is nobody takes enough of either one of nutrients to give they a fair chance.
For example when the research on Pyruvate was done, they were using 5 grams a day.Most people take one 500 mg capsule and expect it to work.If you take 5 grams of Pyruvate you will notice incredable amounts of enduance, and you get pretty good pumps off if it to.
So with L-Carnatine if you take enough of it, you will notice a little more endurance and more useable energy.
It wont wire you like caffiene but you will have more stamina and consistant energy

correct..............i was taking in between 4-6 grams of L-carnitine 30 min prior to my cardio and it definetely gave me noticeable extra energy............consid ering the fact i'd never had sufficient stamina for a decent cardio workout.............at the end of each cardio session i never felt as fatigued as i'd had before..........never tried it before lifting weights though.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: emn1964 on March 21, 2009, 07:27:16 AM
::) ::)

DK don't roll your eyes.  You should be flattered that a schmoe has asked for your pictures to jerk his gherkin to.
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2009, 07:29:15 AM
injectable l carnitine and use with humalog.

I am on a Keto diet you want me to die !!  >:(
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: maxxmuscle on March 21, 2009, 09:46:12 AM
You can still use Insulin on Keto to increase protein absorbtion if you know what you are doing.....
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2009, 10:28:23 AM
You can still use Insulin on Keto to increase protein absorbtion if you know what you are doing.....

I prefer not trying  ;D
Title: Re: L-Carnitine
Post by: maxxmuscle on March 22, 2009, 12:58:17 AM
Good choice ! You have a good physique....dont ruin it :) I dont have a choice as im Type I Diabetic :(