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Ok this is supposed to be a hardcore board...I know this but anyone tried the P90X Ab Ripper??
It is freakin phenomenal...!
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Did Tony Horton kick your butt?
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Ok this is supposed to be a hardcore board...I know this but anyone tried the P90X Ab Ripper??
It is freakin phenomenal...!
no, but you can ask tbombz about the P-20-inch Ass Ripper, he can tell you about that.
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no, but you can ask tbombz about the P-20-inch Ass Ripper, he can tell you about that.
LMAO ;D
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Ok this is supposed to be a hardcore board...
scram skinny
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I'm on day 63 of the program,
and yes ARX is the hardest 16 minutes I've ever done.
You are doing 25 reps of 13 different moves - one after the other.
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Sounds like P90Milos
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LOL
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If I hear that middle-aged douche Tony Horton talk about muscle confusion on my TV one more time, I'm taking a hostage.
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Kenpo karate chop yourself in the neck.
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Anyone know how long are the p90x workouts are?
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Anyone know how long are the p90x workouts are?
People I've talked to say it's an hour for the strength and 1.5 hours for the stretching....
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People I've talked to say it's an hour for the strength and 1.5 hours for the stretching....
1.5 hrs for stretching? lol, ppl you've talked to haven't taken it.
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what is P90X and what is it supposed to do?
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what is P90X and what is it supposed to do?
fitness exercise program supposed to lean you out in 90 days, includes light dumbell and bodyweight exercises done in a circuit fashion, "yoga" days, etc. claims to use the "muscle confusion" principle to avoid plateaus.
Seems to be the fad these days.. All advertising.
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fitness exercise program supposed to lean you out in 90 days, includes light dumbell and bodyweight exercises done in a circuit fashion, "yoga" days, etc. claims to use the "muscle confusion" principle to avoid plateaus.
Seems to be the fad these days.. All advertising.
sometimes I think I'm in the wrong business
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For neophytes of exercise, I think P90X is actually pretty legitimate. At least its honest about putting in hard work and sweat to achieve results, unlike most infomercial weightloss adds.
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Ok this is supposed to be a hardcore board...I know this but anyone tried the P90X Ab Ripper??
It is freakin phenomenal...!
Yes it works!!
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heavy weight lifting 3 times a week is much more effective in terms of body composition
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1.5 hrs for stretching? lol, ppl you've talked to haven't taken it.
Nah man, I'm serious. One guy I work with and a number of others...it has a some type of yoga/stretching component and it takes that long.
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heavy weight lifting 3 times a week is much more effective in terms of body composition
sure, even Tony admits lifting weights builds bigger muscles, but it won't get you in better
cardio or athletic shape - unless you train in a circuit style method.. I guess similar to how Milos
does it.
With P90X, there's no reason to get on a bike or treadmill. If you do the program properly, you are
well into your aerobic and even anareobic zones for most of the hour long workout.
I finished the program back in Mid-April. I lost about 8 lbs. I got leaner, but I was much harder.
I'm back to lifting heavy and I'm looking to add on at least 5lbs of muscle before trying it again.
as for the weights, they don't have to be light per se. You determine how many reps you want to do ahead of time, 6-8, 8-10, 12-15, so the weight can be moderately heavy, although you may need to save some in the tank, because you may be doing it again in another round, and you don't want to burn yourself out. It's not a bbing program for sure - unless you're just starting out, but you can get fitter with it.
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Nah man, I'm serious. One guy I work with and a number of others...it has a some type of yoga/stretching component and it takes that long.
Yes, Stretch X is one hour. works the whole body from the neck to the ankles.
Yoga is 90 minutes, essentially broken into 3-30 minute categories:
Astongas - downward dogs, and warrior poses
Balance postures
Stretching/Ab work
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sure, even Tony admits lifting weights builds bigger muscles, but it won't get you in better
cardio or athletic shape - unless you train in a circuit style method.. I guess similar to how Milos
does it.
With P90X, there's no reason to get on a bike or treadmill. If you do the program properly, you are
well into your aerobic and even anareobic zones for most of the hour long workout.
I finished the program back in Mid-April. I lost about 8 lbs. I got leaner, but I was much harder.
I'm back to lifting heavy and I'm looking to add on at least 5lbs of muscle before trying it again.
as for the weights, they don't have to be light per se. You determine how many reps you want to do ahead of time, 6-8, 8-10, 12-15, so the weight can be moderately heavy, although you may need to save some in the tank, because you may be doing it again in another round, and you don't want to burn yourself out. It's not a bbing program for sure - unless you're just starting out, but you can get fitter with it.
My point is this: losing weight is absolutely no problem, you just have to create the apropriate deficit. What's important is to ensure optimal body composition on a cut (preserving as much muscle mass as possible). And for that, heavy weight training is much more effective than any form of cardio.
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Yes, Stretch X is one hour. works the whole body from the neck to the ankles.
Yoga is 90 minutes, essentially broken into 3-30 minute categories:
Astongas - downward dogs, and warrior poses
Balance postures
Stretching/Ab work
Is the stretching/yoga stuff something worth working in to a weekly routine?
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Is the stretching/yoga stuff something worth working in to a weekly routine?
The stretching, I'd say yes. I'm not the most flexible guy anyway, and I've always been lazy about it.
The program FORCES you do really concentrate on it, and it's particularly help on say, the day of or after
training legs, as my hams, quads and glutes get really tight. If I don't do it after training legs, then I do it on my rest
day.
You have pro BBers who have people stretch them out. Kamali talked about it in an ironman seminar, and most of us
have seen Ronnie's vid where he has a massage therapist stretch him out, so unless you're going to pay someone to do
some of that for you, you may as well do it yourself.
The yoga - I'm not as sure. The main focus is to work on your breathing as you learn to relax your muscles
while they are screaming from holding those postures for long periods of time. Downward dogs kill my shoulders,
and the warrior poses you can feel thru your glutes and hams when holding them for a few seconds.
Like I said, the last 3rd does work on stretching, but again, you pretty much do the same stretches in the Stretch X video.
Also, although Tony does some "ohms" at the end, overall, it's not a "spiritual" yoga. It's more a working/power one. Even with the ohms, he says it's to stimulate the central nervous system, and not a spiritual/religious practice. You will feel
whipped at the end.
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tabata burpees/chirpees > p90x
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Sounds pretty good for those of us non-bber types trying to stay strong but lean out. I want to get a look at some of the work-outs but there's no way I'm paying for that crap.
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i downloaded that shit and did it for a week.
here's why i stopped:
a. the yoga...those positions are something my fat body's not built for
b. i was sweating a whole lot, but the weightlifting was fucked up. if i did 12-15 it was too light, but if i did 6-8 he only gives you like 20 seconds to finish it. how am i supposed to do 6 heavy reps in 20 seconds?
i mean it's great for "fitness", but i just want to lift weights and have my shoulders be wider than my gut.
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fitness exercise program supposed to lean you out in 90 days, includes light dumbell and bodyweight exercises done in a circuit fashion, "yoga" days, etc. claims to use the "muscle confusion" principle to avoid plateaus.
Seems to be the fad these days.. All advertising.
its all bullshit IMO.. i mean its all in the P90... thats 90 days, thre fuccking months... you get any slob out there and have them do the lightest workouts, even 20 pushups a day, 20 situps, and 20 mins fast walking in the morning you'll see results in 90 days.... 90 days is a long time, and of course its gonna work, the problem is alot of the obese ffolks cant stick to it for 90 days... so its all advertising...
i do believe the BEFORE/AFTER pics are real and untouched, but then again 90 fucking days is a longgggg time to make alot of changes to your body
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you get any slob out there and have them do the lightest workouts, even 20 pushups a day, 20 situps, and 20 mins fast walking in the morning you'll see results in 90 days.... 90 days is a long time, and of course its gonna work
Any slob doing any exercise will work, to some extent but isn't the same as a program like that one.
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Actually a pretty demanding program. No it will not get you on a national bb stage, but most of the population would see good results. The main problem I saw was the time involved, they are asking people to commit 2-3 hours per day 6 days a week to the program, and on top of this eat a near perfect diet. It is hard to get the average person to commit to 1 hr 3x a week in the gym let alone this. Seemed like massive overtraining to me!
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Actually a pretty demanding program. No it will not get you on a national bb stage, but most of the population would see good results. The main problem I saw was the time involved, they are asking people to commit 2-3 hours per day 6 days a week to the program, and on top of this eat a near perfect diet. It is hard to get the average person to commit to 1 hr 3x a week in the gym let alone this. Seemed like massive overtraining to me!
As for the 2 - 3 hours per day, that is only for 2 special programs within the series.
There's a LEAN version, where you do a session in the morning and a cardio session at night.
The Cardio X program done at night is 42 minutes, and you do it 3 times per week.
And there's a DOUBLES version where again, you do a morning and evening session.
The base program is generally an hour, with Ab Ripper X being 16 minutes ( and you do it 3x per week until your
rest week). I usually did the base program in the morning, and ABX at night.
The Yoga is 90 minutes, but even then, because it works on 3 different areas, you can split them up. There were days I did the Astangas and balance postures for an hour in the morning, then did the stretches at night. For some, they can skip the Yoga altogether and just do the Stetch X, since a lot of the same moves are incorporated, or the Cardio X because he starts it out with about 15 minutes of Yoga.
And also note, they say it's NOT for everyone, and they recommend that a person have some level of fitness. There's a fit test that they have people do before they try the program. They basically call for you to do a certain number of movements, and they have minimum criteria. If you can't do 20 pushups, then it's probably not for you. If you can't do jumping jacks for 30 seconds without getting into your anerobic zone, then it's not for you, if you can't do a pullup unassisted, then it's not for you.
As for overtraining, I don't see it. You will work your Back 2 times per week(mostly via pullups), but all other bodyparts are worked once. And after 3 weeks, there's a rest week that is mostly cardio, stretching and yoga.
I think Arnold's Encyclopedia of bodybuilding routines are more overtraining for a guy starting out the box.
But I digress. It is what it is. As said earlier, it will NOT get you ready for the nationals.... unless perhaps you used the cardio X program rather than getting on a treadmill, but that may even be too intense, as you may be carrying a lot of muscle, and some of those moves may be too much for your joints. You may also spend too much time in your anerobic zone, which could kill your gains.
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A lot of comments about how it won't be great for BB but actually if calisthenics are used with resistance coupled with the use of weights and other exercises, one ends up with the best looking type of physique-lean dense muscle and an athletic look that's missing from today's BBs, akin to earlier eras of BB. This applies to BBs or anyone else.
Not just P90 of course, any rigorous program of calisthenics, weights, etc. but this is a good program no doubt. If today's BBs included something like this it would help them retain a more aesthetic and athletic look that's been long since lost.
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It's a great program for getting lean, and a fit body.... it's not bodybuilding but does work to lose fat and get hard for average built people.
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The stretching, I'd say yes. I'm not the most flexible guy anyway, and I've always been lazy about it.
The program FORCES you do really concentrate on it, and it's particularly help on say, the day of or after
training legs, as my hams, quads and glutes get really tight. If I don't do it after training legs, then I do it on my rest
day.
You have pro BBers who have people stretch them out. Kamali talked about it in an ironman seminar, and most of us
have seen Ronnie's vid where he has a massage therapist stretch him out, so unless you're going to pay someone to do
some of that for you, you may as well do it yourself.
The yoga - I'm not as sure. The main focus is to work on your breathing as you learn to relax your muscles
while they are screaming from holding those postures for long periods of time. Downward dogs kill my shoulders,
and the warrior poses you can feel thru your glutes and hams when holding them for a few seconds.
Like I said, the last 3rd does work on stretching, but again, you pretty much do the same stretches in the Stretch X video.
Also, although Tony does some "ohms" at the end, overall, it's not a "spiritual" yoga. It's more a working/power one. Even with the ohms, he says it's to stimulate the central nervous system, and not a spiritual/religious practice. You will feel
whipped at the end.
thanks for the input. I really would like to improve my flexibility and my knowledge is pretty much the stretching routine you do in HS sports or the military, which is to say, not much...