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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on March 23, 2009, 08:59:23 AM
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If Obama re-enlisted the draft and sent you to Iraq or Afganistan with a 50/50 chance of living. Would you go knowing you had a good chance of dying for your country?
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If Obama re-enlisted the draft and sent you to Iraq or Afganistan with a 50/50 chance of living. Would you go knowing you had a good chance of dying for your country?
15 years ago, yes.
Today, hell no.
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15 years ago, yes.
Today, hell no.
I second that emotion!!
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As General Patton said about dying for your country, in so many words: Let the other poor bastard die for his country, you want to win and live for yours.
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Dying for your country is as stupid as dying for your town or for your street. I hope we would forget this nonsense.
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I would die for Getbig :D
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w/o question
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My country that literally "kills" my future...
hell no.
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No fucking way.
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When I was in I was willing to die, and I'll do it now if I got the call to go back.
Would be an honor. I can understand not everyone thinks this way.
"I kiss my Mama goodbye, and wipe the tears from her lonely eyes
Said I'll return but I gotta fight the fate's arrived!"Pac
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If another country invaded the US ,yes ,otherwise NO
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Would you go knowing you had a good chance of dying for the corporations?
fixed.
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War is often just politics, and the people in control just think the body count as lost money.
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no ...... >:(
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the draft is the worst thing ever invented. The draft was created for young boys to go off and die in a war started by people too old to be drafted. You are forced to go, and theres severe punishment if you leave, sounds a bit like involuntary servitude to me, which if i recall, the 13th admendment prohibits.
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Dying for your country is as stupid as dying for your town or for your street. I hope we would forget this nonsense.
Quoted for truth. Only the severe brainwashed would die for their country.
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no....I don't care about others...
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15 years ago, yes.
Today, hell no.
why 15 years ago? what made 1993-94 any different that the bullshit today? ::)
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Not a chance! America has never done anything for me. My Patriotism is paying taxes.
and sniffing the panties of celebrities :D
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the draft is the worst thing ever invented. The draft was created for young boys to go off and die in a war started by people too old to be drafted. You are forced to go, and theres severe punishment if you leave, sounds a bit like involuntary servitude to me, which if i recall, the 13th admendment prohibits.
While I prefer an all-volunteer military, the Supreme Court ruled that the draft does not violate the 13th Amendment:
Some groups, such as libertarians, say that the draft constitutes slavery, since it is mandatory work[43]. Under the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, slavery or other involuntary servitude is not allowed unless it is part of punishment for a crime. They therefore see the draft as unconstitutional (at least in the U.S.) and immoral. In 1918, the Supreme Court ruled that the World War I draft did not violate the United States Constitution. Arver v. United States, 245 U.S. 366 (1918). The Court detailed its conclusion that the limited powers of the federal government included conscription. Its only statement on the Thirteenth Amendment issue reads thus:
Finally, as we are unable to conceive upon what theory the exaction by government from the citizen of the performance of his supreme and noble duty of contributing to the defense of the rights and honor of the nation as the result of a war declared by the great representative body of the people can be said to be the imposition of involuntary servitude in violation of the prohibitions of the Thirteenth Amendment, we are constrained to the conclusion that the contention to that effect is refuted by its mere statement.
There may be other case law to support my assertion, but this is all Wikipedia had :D
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I would kill for my country but I don't think the dying part is appealing.
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While I prefer an all-volunteer military, the Supreme Court ruled that the draft does not violate the 13th Amendment:
Come on now. They just played with some words.
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I would kill for my country but I don't think the dying part is appealing.
Ditto. I would kill for the US and I wouldn't really care if I died for my country, as long as I took some shitbags with me.
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Come on now. They just played with some words.
I understand that you may not agree with the decision, but that decision is the Court's to make.
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Ditto. I would kill for the US and I wouldn't really care if I died for my country, as long as I took some shitbags with me.
That is a healthy attitude. You could become a suicide bomber.
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That is a healthy attitude. You could become a suicide bomber.
Lol, if I was bleeding out I would try to shoot as many people as possible before I took a dirt nap.
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I die for my country daily on Call of Duty 4. 8)
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I die for my country daily on Call of Duty 4. 8)
great game :D
will play all day tomorrow 8)
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I die for my country daily on Call of Duty 4. 8)
Does Rainbow Six count?
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NO, Italy is the Pope coutry, and I'm not catholic
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Sad that these uneducated , low IQ boys go so readily to die for ego and nefarious greed of a tiny, corrupt elite comprising American businessman/politicians who wouldn't dream of sending their own sons to spill their blood and that of innocents all for a lie.
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a terrorist towel head might for his
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a terrorist towel head might for his
Out of interest my racist friend : Would you call Arabs/Muslims/ even Vietnamese "terrorists" for defending themselves from foreign invaders?
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Out of interest my racist friend : Would you call Arabs/Muslims/ even Vietnamese "terrorists" for defending themselves from foreign invaders?
yes and there are muslim terrorists who are trying to overthrow soverign nations like Indonesia, the Philippine islands, Sri Lanka and Jordan and Saudi Arabia from within.
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yes and there are muslim terrorists who are trying to overthrow soverign nations like Indonesia, the Philippine islands, Sri Lanka and Jordan and Saudi Arabia from within.
So, let's be clear here, you say that people who defend their country from foreign invasion are 'terrorists' ? haha no wonder America is now run by women and fags. What a weak mindset.
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So, let's be clear here, you say that people who defend their country from foreign invasion are 'terrorists' ? haha no wonder America is now run by women and fags. What a weak mindset.
dont forget colored men
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Sad that these uneducated , low IQ boys go so readily to die for ego and nefarious greed of a tiny, corrupt elite comprising American businessman/politicians who wouldn't dream of sending their own sons to spill their blood and that of innocents all for a lie.
As opposed to your terorrist brothers blowing themselves up for 72 virgins and because Osama tells them to? Give me a break. The radicals and terrorists still think they are fighting the crusades. The only ones fighting a war for their religion are them.
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As opposed to your terorrist brothers blowing themselves up for 72 virgins and because Osama tells them to? Give me a break. The radicals and terrorists still think they are fighting the crusades. The only ones fighting a war for their religion are them.
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As opposed to your terorrist brothers blowing themselves up for 72 virgins and because Osama tells them to? Give me a break. The radicals and terrorists still think they are fighting the crusades. The only ones fighting a war for their religion are them.
I am not even referring to that incident. I am talking about those resisting foreign invading hordes. Only imperialist arrogance and ignorance can explain someone's surprise that the
occupied people - who have seen hundreds of thousands of innocents, schools and hospitals blown to pieces - will take arms and resist people invading their homeland. Yes, these people will die for their country, their country.
This why you American runaway from Vietnam with the whole world howling with laughter at your humiliating defeat. Now you withdraw desperately from Middle East.
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I am not even referring to that incident. I am talking about those resisting foreign invading hordes. Only imperialist arrogance and ignorance can explain someone's surprise that the
occupied people - who have seen hundreds of thousands of innocents, schools and hospitals blown to pieces - will take arms and resist people invading their homeland. Yes, these people will die for their country, their country.
This why you American runaway from Vietnam with the whole world howling with laughter at your humiliating defeat. Now you withdraw desperately from Middle East.
True soldiers never have and never will run, "popular" opinion in America since the Korean War has dictated when wars ended. At least in WW2 the president had balls and told guys they will stay for 4 years straight to finish the mission. None of this bullshit we see now.
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True soldiers never have and never will run, "popular" opinion in America since the Korean War has dictated when wars ended. At least in WW2 the president had balls and told guys they will stay for 4 years straight to finish the mission. None of this bullshit we see now.
Maybe this is true in those times. It is right that the people - who did not want this illegal war to begin with - call them home like with Vietnam (another pointless spilling of blood). This war was founded on a lie and started by an elite 0.00002 who all went to the same universities and have all the power and money and would not dream of sending their own spoilt little brats to fight and die in foreign lands.
Some good people in America know and see this for themself. They can think "outside the box" on such issues.
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If Obama re-enlisted the draft and sent you to Iraq or Afganistan with a 50/50 chance of living. Would you go knowing you had a good chance of dying for your country?
Youre odds are better than 50/50, even the civil war had better odds of survival.
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nope.my kids are the only thing I'd die for.
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i would die fighting injustice
i would also die trying to eradicate this world of that murderous cancer of a ideology known at Islam
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what country ? this isnt my country. no way. sure i was born here and my acnestors have a history here, some even made big impact on the development of the ocntry. but this country no today is not my country, no way.
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what country ? this isnt my country. no way. sure i was born here and my acnestors have a history here, some even made big impact on the development of the ocntry. but this country no today is not my country, no way.
Yeah, but you're a fag who takes cock up the ass. :-X
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i have a better idea.
why not declare a worldwide peace/truce, open all borders, allow freedom to practice any religion. Create a world wide currency with taxes equal for all.
every penny not spend on wmd tanks, jets guns etc can feed and home the starving billions worldwide 100000times over.
then no one has to die and we can all enjoy life without living in fear.
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If I was fighting for the survival of this country then yes.
The Iraq war doesn't benefit America and that's why I wouldn't never fight it.
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what country ? this isnt my country. no way. sure i was born here and my acnestors have a history here, some even made big impact on the development of the ocntry. but this country no today is not my country, no way.
ARE YOU A NATIVE AMERICAN ?
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tbomz/candizzle would sure take it in the ass for his country I bet ;D
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HAHAHA
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If Obama re-enlisted the draft and sent you to Iraq or Afganistan with a 50/50 chance of living. Would you go knowing you had a good chance of dying for your country?
Would my country die for me ? fuck no so I certainly won't die for my country either ;D
now, would I die for you bitches ? absolutely !
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Dying for your country is as stupid as dying for your town or for your street. I hope we would forget this nonsense.
Thank you sir. A voice of reason and sanity.
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I know a guy that was hooked on drugs and booze. Lost everything. Got the brilliant idea to join the Marines. Says Patriotism is just a word for people at home sitting on their sofas. He's now getting ready for his third trip to the Middle East. If he doesn't make it back alive? Did he die for his Country or was he just a looser drug addict that didn't have anywhere else to go?
The latter.