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Hes not natural.But not a heavy juicer
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Hes not natural.But not a heavy juicer
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How can you tell?
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I would say that he's natural.
You can't really tell how big he is with him dancing around like that, but he doesn't look to be much bigger than the couch behind him.
He's probably 170lbs, but he's ripped and it's his BF % that makes people say that he looks juiced.
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I would say that he's natural.
You can't really tell how big he is with him dancing around like that, but he doesn't look to be much bigger than the couch behind him.
He's probably 170lbs, but he's ripped and it's his BF % that makes people say that he looks juiced.
Is that like 6 or 7%?
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Hes not natural.But not a heavy juicer
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How can you tell?
Im not an "expert" for sure, but this guy has at least used fatburners . but who cares. great abs though.
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Is that like 6 or 7%?
I don't know, I would say below 6%. I was measured once with a 7 point skin fold test (not the best judge in the world) at 5.7% and I wasn't that ripped. I'm far leaner, currently, and so logic would say I'm around 5%...but again I'm not that quite diced. Maybe he did some carb up or something, or he could just be that dry?
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now, thats the look im aiming for!
Ripped to the bone and a body people can actually say "damn, he must of worked his ass off for that"
Instead of
"dude's on a boatload of drugs, no work needed to achieve that bloat of mass"
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Im not an "expert" for sure, but this guy has at least used fatburners . but who cares. great abs though.
When I was judging his natural status, I wasn't considering fatburners being unnatural. If you consider them as using, then he's not natural. But I would definitely agree he's using some type of thermo.
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DUMB QUESTION FROM A FAT RETARD ::)
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DUMB QUESTION FROM A FAT RETARD ::)
Must you highjack EVERY thread? ::)
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This guy is natural
(http://images.news14.com/media/2009/3/24/images/0124_ambroso.jpg)
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Must you highjack EVERY thread? ::)
must you ask the stupidest questions ? ::)
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must you ask the stupidest questions ? ::)
It is not a stupid question as it seems it can be answered both ways. I assume you believe he is ON. Fair enough.
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must you ask the stupidest questions ? ::)
He's got a point, tard.
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It is not a stupid question as it seems it can be answered both ways. I assume you believe he is ON. Fair enough.
I BELIEVE" he is on?????????
are you THAT FUCKING STOOPID ?????????
that guy is on an entire pharmacy...
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I BELIEVE" he is on?????????
are you THAT FUCKING STOOPID ?????????
that guy is on an entire pharmacy...
So much? Why do you think that?
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Definitely could be natural, anyone who doesn't know that hasn't trained long or seriously enoug to know what's attainable with hard work, diet, etc. The muscles aren't huge, it's just a good combo of cuts and some development.
Very gay way of touching himself during this routine.
Not a bad physique.
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So much? Why do you think that?
I don't know mutherfuc.ker ..maybe because in 20 years bodybuilding and being around the sport I learned what juiced looks like and what doesn't
you are a fat bitch titted nobody who needs to lose 50 lbs
you never dieted
you never built muscle
you don't know shit
you ask the dumbest questions EVER
what's next ? asking if Flex is indeed a Natural Freak ?????
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Definitely could be natural, anyone who doesn't know that hasn't trained long or seriously enoug to know what's attainable with hard work, diet, etc. The muscles aren't huge, it's just a good combo of cuts and some development.
Very gay way of touching himself during this routine.
Not a bad physique.
why dont you cut down and prove to us what's possible then :D
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why dont you cut down and prove to us what's possible then :D
Been there done that. :D Actually i'm back on a diet now to lose the extra weight for summer.
Keep in mind that there some dudes who are naturally ripped, once they gain a little muscle like this guy that's the look.
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I don't know mutherfuc.ker ..maybe because in 20 years bodybuilding and being around the sport I learned what juiced looks like and what doesn't
you are a fat bitch titted nobody who needs to lose 50 lbs
you never dieted
you never built muscle
you don't know shit
you ask the dumbest questions EVER
what's next ? asking if Flex is indeed a Natural Freak ?????
I have never been aggressive with you and yet you find the need to violently attack me. You are a deeply unpleasant person.
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I don't know mutherfuc.ker ..maybe because in 20 years bodybuilding and being around the sport I learned what juiced looks like and what doesn't
you are a fat bitch titted nobody who needs to lose 50 lbs
you never dieted
you never built muscle
you don't know shit
you ask the dumbest questions EVER
what's next ? asking if Flex is indeed a Natural Freak ?????
what do you think he is using? fatburners or more?
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what do you think he is using? fatburners or more?
hormones and steroids for maintaining muscle , thyroid and fatburners for cutting, diuretics for sure ... and shitty..very shitty genetics
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I have never been aggressive with you and yet you find the need to violently attack me. You are a deeply unpleasant person.
you never do that shit do you ::)
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you never do that shit do you ::)
I only attack people for their intellectual deficits; I have the worst physique at getbig so any such attack would be unwarranted.
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I only attack people for their intellectual deficits; I have the worst physique at getbig so any such attack would be unwarranted.
first, you are an annoying, arrogant pompous shit but have some good qualities. second, you don't have a bad physique but you're so arrogant you won't listen to any help to get you where you want to be. that is just plain dumb.
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hormones and steroids for maintaining muscle , thyroid and fatburners for cutting, diuretics for sure ... and shitty..very shitty genetics
i'm natural and bigger than that but i've never even been close to so lean and hard like that fella is, so you might be right.
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first, you are an annoying, arrogant pompous shit but have some good qualities. second, you don't have a bad physique but you're so arrogant you won't listen to any help to get you where you want to be. that is just plain dumb.
I gladly listen to those in the know and have noted many ideas I have gotten here. Everything else you have cited is subjective but all in all I am a fairly unexceptional human being and never claimed otherwise.
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i'm natural and bigger than that but i've never even been close to so lean and hard like that fella is, so you might be right.
i AM right
you are bigger ?
I doubt it ..you might have more fat but you strip it off ad you discover you are small
diest down to 6 % without roids and you will shrink next to nothing
to have some muscle plus 4% -5% like that dude you need as I said :
aas for muscle, fatburners and thyr hormones, diuretics, diet, cardio etc etc ..
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I gladly listen to those in the know and have noted many ideas I have gotten here. Everything else you have cited is subjective but all in all I am a fairly unexceptional human being and never claimed otherwise.
that's not what I've seen in some of your posts. but some of your posts directly contradict other posts made under your account. are you the only person using this account?
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that's not what I've seen in some of your posts. but some of your posts directly contradict other posts made under your account. are you the only person using this account?
Please cite specific examples; I am very reasonable and will concede your points if enough evidence is brought to light.
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Far from natural ...
He's moderator on a steroid board.
@sev :
You're right about the aas but you don't necessarily need t3,clen,ephedrine or diuretics to get shredded.
Even naturals can get ripped (although they are going to be small) with the right diet and if their genetics allow it.
However I'm not saying that fatburners and diuretics aren't common when preparing for a show.
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Please cite specific examples; I am very reasonable and will concede your points if enough evidence is brought to light.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=250460.0
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http://www.getbig.com/board/index.php?topic=250460.0
Link not working. I have taken your criticism into consideration. However, no one can be liked by all. I wish you well.
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Far from natural ...
He's moderator on a steroid board.
@sev :
You're right about the aas but you don't necessarily need t3,clen,ephedrine or diuretics to get shredded.
Even naturals can get ripped (although they are going to be small) with the right diet and if their genetics allow it.
However I'm not saying that fatburners and diuretics aren't common when preparing for a show.
Ha
the truth always gets you at Getbig
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Far from natural ...
He's moderator on a steroid board.
@sev :
You're right about the aas but you don't necessarily need t3,clen,ephedrine or diuretics to get shredded.
Even naturals can get ripped (although they are going to be small) with the right diet and if their genetics allow it.
However I'm not saying that fatburners and diuretics aren't common when preparing for a show.
have you ever dieted down to that level ?
IF YOU GO BELOW 6 % ONLY ON A DIET I WILL DONATE MY RIGHT BALL
You struck me as a gym goer not a competitor atherwise you would have been agreeing w/ me
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have you ever dieted down to that level ?
IF YOU GO BELOW 6 % ONLY ON A DIET I WILL DONATE MY RIGHT BALL
You struck me as a gym goer not a competitor atherwise you would have been agreeing w/ me
Yes I did.
And I'm telling you again fatburners just speed up the process but are not needed to get in super ripped contest shape, guaranteed.
I use quite a lot of steroids but I dont need clen/eca to get shredded. I tried it with clen/eca as well and it worked but wasn't worth the side-effects for me as I can get just as shredded just by dieting and doing a little cardio, just takes a little longer. Never used t3 because my metabolism is fast anyway..
You can even shed all water just by manipulating your potassium/sodium levels - no need for diuretics there. And you will look even fuller if you do it withouth diuretics because they tend to make you look flat. But it takes some experience/knowledge to do it this way..
I know a couple of other guys who do it the same way - using moderate to fairly high amounts of aas yes , fatburners maybe , diuretics no.
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So much? Why do you think that?
because he can't get that without using "the whole pharmacy" so it must be true of everyone else. ::)
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He s most likely using T3 and diuretics. I must say it hurts to agree with Sevastase but he's right. Steroids? For gainingmass, no but to maintain it while dieting, good chance, yes. To get that shredded and maintain a decent size you would have to go for a fucking long diet, cycling lowcarb/high carb for ages, without juice.
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Yes I did.
And I'm telling you again fatburners just speed up the process but are not needed to get in super ripped contest shape, guaranteed.
I use quite a lot of steroids but I dont need clen/eca to get shredded. I tried it with clen/eca as well and it worked but wasn't worth the side-effects for me as I can get just as shredded just by dieting and doing a little cardio, just takes a little longer. Never used t3 because my metabolism is fast anyway..
You can even shed all water just by manipulating your potassium/sodium levels - no need for diuretics there. And you will look even fuller if you do it withouth diuretics because they tend to make you look flat. But it takes some experience/knowledge to do it this way..
I know a couple of other guys who do it the same way - using moderate to fairly high amounts of aas yes , fatburners maybe , diuretics no.
there's tight, ripped and contest shape ...
I have yet to see a bodybuilder on stage ripped without diuretics t3/4 and fatburners ..
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He s most likely using T3 and diuretics. I must say it hurts to agree with Sevastase but he's right. Steroids? For gainingmass, no but to maintain it while dieting, good chance, yes. To get that shredded and maintain a decent size you would have to go for a fucking long diet, cycling lowcarb/high carb for ages, without juice.
He's not just juicing when dieting for maintaining mass but did a whole lot of bulking cycles. He is not small by any means..
Probably is on for a couple of years now.. test dbol tren deca oxy etc.. he did it all
To clarify things once more : the conditioning is achievable without any use of drugs but that level of muscularity is not.
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To clarify things once more : the conditioning is achievable without any use of drugs but that level of muscularity is not.
options :
you are smoking crack
2. you don't know what you're talking about
3. you lie to make your buddy seem more special than he is
bottom line ...
this guy ran the whole nine yards for that condition.
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I have never been aggressive with you and yet you find the need to violently attack me. You are a deeply unpleasant person.
Do not worry about Spermytaste dear Deicide. He = not the smartest person around. Frankly, his intelligence = on the "duller" side :D Even though you = a bit more pudgy than him, your IQ = probably miles beyond his :D
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i AM right
you are bigger ?
I doubt it ..you might have more fat but you strip it off ad you discover you are small
diest down to 6 % without roids and you will shrink next to nothing
to have some muscle plus 4% -5% like that dude you need as I said :
aas for muscle, fatburners and thyr hormones, diuretics, diet, cardio etc etc ..
yes i would say i hold a similar amount of muscle, but at 10%bf. Like you say, if i managed to get down to his bf without drugs i would lose alot of muscle and look stringy like all naturals do.
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He's not just juicing when dieting for maintaining mass but did a whole lot of bulking cycles. He is not small by any means..
Probably is on for a couple of years now.. test dbol tren deca oxy etc.. he did it all
To clarify things once more : the conditioning is achievable without any use of drugs but that level of muscularity is not.
what?! it's the other way around... look at mesomorph78, croatch etc...they are all similar size, but not ripped like that guy
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what?! it's the other way around... look at mesomorph78, croatch etc...they are all similar size, but not ripped like that guy
Mesomorph is either a pathetic liar or has unbelievable genetics for muscle building. I don't buy it..
I think you guys are just not disciplined enough when it comes to dieting. ANY type of conditioning can be achieved naturally maybe with the
exception of guys like Andreas Muenzer who had near-to-death conditioning.
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I will try to get down to about 6% this year.
All natural baby.
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Mesomorph is either a pathetic liar or has unbelievable genetics for muscle building. I don't buy it..
I think you guys are just not disciplined enough when it comes to dieting. ANY type of conditioning can be achieved naturally maybe with the
exception of guys like Andreas Muenzer who had near-to-death conditioning.
i'm dieting right now, let's see how low i can get
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I will try to get down to about 6% this year.
All natural baby.
let's hear about your calorie intake, lean guy
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let's hear about your calorie intake, lean guy
No idea, I don't count calories.
Would estimate at around 2000 (on a cut), counting in the weekly pig-out day.
What's yours?
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No idea, I don't count calories.
Would estimate at around 2000 (on a cut), counting in the weekly pig-out day.
What's yours?
2300-2500cals off-on days, lift 4 times a week and do fast pace walk cardio 30min every day
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2300-2500cals off-on days, lift 4 times a week and do fast pace walk cardio 30min every day
Yeah well I don't do teh cardio ;D
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It's funny to me that anyone would even really think this guy was natural.
Ya, hes not huge. But it's clearly an enhanced physique not likely attainable without AAS. It's pretty obvious if you have any kind of eye for physiques at all. Sometimes I think you dipshits have warped perspectives from reading too many bb mags and comparing everything to bloated hGH/insulin loaded pro level beasts.
The universal give away in looking at a physique is the body fat to lean muscle ratio. You can get VERY cut naturally but you will eat up a great deal of muscle. When someone is very lean and has an abnormally high amount of muscle its an instant red flag. Not a chance in hell he is even CLOSE to natural. Just goes to show how stupid most of you really are. This thread should have never even been started.
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It's funny to me that anyone would even really think this guy was natural.
Ya, hes not huge. But it's clearly an enhanced physique not likely attainable without AAS. It's pretty obvious if you have any kind of eye for physiques at all. Sometimes I think you dipshits have warped perspectives from reading too many bb mags and comparing everything to bloated hGH/insulin loaded pro level beasts.
The universal give away in looking at a physique is the body fat to lean muscle ratio. You can get VERY cut naturally but you will eat up a great deal of muscle. When someone is very lean and has an abnormally high amount of muscle its an instant red flag. Not a chance in hell he is even CLOSE to natural. Just goes to show how stupid most of you really are. This thread should have never even been started.
pipe down "2 stars" we can't all be as experienced with drugs as you are
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It's funny to me that anyone would even really think this guy was natural.
Ya, hes not huge. But it's clearly an enhanced physique not likely attainable without AAS. It's pretty obvious if you have any kind of eye for physiques at all. Sometimes I think you dipshits have warped perspectives from reading too many bb mags and comparing everything to bloated hGH/insulin loaded pro level beasts.
The universal give away in looking at a physique is the body fat to lean muscle ratio. You can get VERY cut naturally but you will eat up a great deal of muscle. When someone is very lean and has an abnormally high amount of muscle its an instant red flag. Not a chance in hell he is even CLOSE to natural. Just goes to show how stupid most of you really are. This thread should have never even been started.
Juice head meltdown.....
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It's funny to me that anyone would even really think this guy was natural.
Ya, hes not huge. But it's clearly an enhanced physique not likely attainable without AAS. It's pretty obvious if you have any kind of eye for physiques at all. Sometimes I think you dipshits have warped perspectives from reading too many bb mags and comparing everything to bloated hGH/insulin loaded pro level beasts.
The universal give away in looking at a physique is the body fat to lean muscle ratio. You can get VERY cut naturally but you will eat up a great deal of muscle. When someone is very lean and has an abnormally high amount of muscle its an instant red flag. Not a chance in hell he is even CLOSE to natural. Just goes to show how stupid most of you really are. This thread should have never even been started.
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Is that a "Tool Academy" tattoo on his chest?
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i wouldn't say he is definitely on.
i have been around 6-8% at 164 @ 5'10 after 2 years of working out, and i have horrible genetics. the only thing i used was ripped fuel (ephedrea, this is how long its been since i have been in any kind of shape).
but i am guessing that he is not on because he doesn't seem to be bigger than in the 170's, if he is much bigger than that than i would lean toward he is on something.
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I know that guy he is from my country ::) and he is competing here.His name is Lazar Angelov and he is not Natural ;D anyway looks pretty damn good for NOT heavy juicer
the guy on the left is him.
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/1806/1003010141175224131.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/1806/1003010141175224131.JPG)
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I know that guy he is from my country ::) and he is competing here.His name is Lazar Angelov and he is not Natural ;D anyway looks pretty damn good for NOT heavy juicer
the guy on the left is him.
(http://www.picvalley.net/u/1806/1003010141175224131.JPG) (http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/1806/1003010141175224131.JPG)
haha i love the guys who "swore" that he was natural and "attacked" sev's posts. Idiots. ::) yawn