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Title: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 05:53:12 PM
Here is a short clip of Flex Wheeler's Hardbody video. It's part of the intro.
this is for those who say Phil is better than Flex. Take a look at him at his best.

Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: QuakerOats on March 24, 2009, 05:54:05 PM
nowhere near as good as Flex but still an incredible bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 05:59:22 PM
Another, from Mass Construction...
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 24, 2009, 06:11:11 PM
Not yet but he will be if he keeps going like he is. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
Not yet but he will be if he keeps going like he is. 
Nada, as Phil gets bigger, his waist gets wider. His obliques are already shwoing the "growing strains". Flex looked better at a lighter bodyweight.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2009, 06:30:51 PM
Here is a short clip of Flex Wheeler's Hardbody video. It's part of the intro.
this is for those who say Phil is better than Flex. Take a look at him at his best.



Ha ha ha ha ha Phil better than Flex , Flex is in a league all his own
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 24, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Just an exceptional bodybuilder
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: swilkins1984 on March 24, 2009, 06:34:39 PM
Nada, as Phil gets bigger, his waist gets wider. His obliques are already shwoing the "growing strains". Flex looked better at a lighter bodyweight.

I don't think Phil will get any bigger. His waist now is slightly bigger than Dexter's which is 30" onstage. Plus Phil outweighs Dexter by probably 15lbs. The goal I think is to refine like Silvio has. More back detail and bring the Ironman conditioning can win him the Olympia.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NeoSeminole on March 24, 2009, 06:35:29 PM
I guess I'll go against the grain here and say that Phil Heath is better.

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath61a.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath93.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath74.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/08MrO-Heath42.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Relentless on March 24, 2009, 07:18:14 PM
Flex had the best genetics for shape in the history of the sport. 
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: bigj2k3 on March 24, 2009, 07:23:37 PM
Flex is like Nasser with less mass.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 24, 2009, 07:25:29 PM
Just an exceptional bodybuilder

Those back shots, show that nobody today had the detail that not only he had but all the rest of the top six (excluding Nasser) had in the 90's.

look at the freaking detailing, and the detail of the tris. No wonder Flex was dying after the Arnold Classic.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Dballn247 on March 24, 2009, 08:19:39 PM
Flex's Christmas tree at the 93 olympia was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Wiggs on March 24, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
Flex was perfect.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 24, 2009, 11:35:49 PM
Which bodybuilder was a better person?   I think that is important too.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: bic_staedtler on March 24, 2009, 11:37:25 PM
..this must be what if feels like to get old.

FLEX WHEELER....SO much better than Heath.  No comparison...at all.  

Heath has time though.  But I'd say that Flex has him right from the beginning...just a genetic wonder.  Really would have been nice to see him take a Mr O title during this current lack of talent.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: tu_holmes on March 25, 2009, 01:09:09 AM
Phil will never... EVER EEEEEVER be better than Flex Wheeler.

That is all.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 25, 2009, 01:19:06 AM
Flex had the best genetics for shape in the history of the sport. 
this is true...
 i love phil..
but  wheeeler is bette by far
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 25, 2009, 01:26:23 AM
Ken Wheeler, ninja warrior with kung fu grip = one of the best bodybuilders of all time

Phil Heath, KFC and anadrol = one of the best bodybuilder competing today

Phil is good but Ken is better ;D
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: io856 on March 25, 2009, 01:27:47 AM
sometimes I wonder how it was even possible for flex to achieve the physique he did...

its like perfection a sculptor could not even create
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: alnassak on March 25, 2009, 03:49:18 AM
I guess I'll go against the grain here and say that Phil Heath is better.

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath61a.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath93.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/PhilHeath74.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Phil%20Heath/08MrO-Heath42.jpg)

X1000000000  ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on March 25, 2009, 04:26:03 AM
Heath isn't better but his condition is more consistent. He came close last year, should have been 2nd at the O and was close to Dexter. He could definately win it depends upon Wolf showing up ready. I think there is too much oil in his arms to pass a physique like Flex's but he isn't far off.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: RZA on March 25, 2009, 04:49:59 AM
Saying that Heath is better than Flex is ridiculous. Flex in '93 was unbeatable by anyone except a '93 Dorian and not for aesthetic reasons. He just had the best genetics ever with the smallest brain ever.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: clued-up on March 25, 2009, 04:55:57 AM
sometimes I wonder how it was even possible for flex to achieve the physique he did...

its like perfection a sculptor could not even create

do you really think flex had that much to do with it? a sculptor can do whatever he wants.. a bodybuilder can only do what their genetics allow.

bodybuilding simply comes down to genetics.. the best genetics win.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: kyomu on March 25, 2009, 04:58:12 AM
do you really think flex had that much to do with it? a sculptor can do whatever he wants.. a bodybuilder can only do what their genetics allow.

bodybuilding simply comes down to genetics.. the best genetics win.

and the will power to polish that genetic. ;)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: clued-up on March 25, 2009, 05:00:56 AM
and the will power to polish that genetic. ;)

just as long as there is something to polish...
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: RZA on March 25, 2009, 05:07:25 AM
and the will power to polish that genetic. ;)

In Flex's case, will power had nothing to do with it. He was known as a lazy bastard and could hardly find the will to get in condition most of the time. Had he trained and prepared himself half as hard as Dorian did, the sky was the limit. But he just never had it. He was just incredibly gifted.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Deicide on March 25, 2009, 05:11:06 AM
do you really think flex had that much to do with it? a sculptor can do whatever he wants.. a bodybuilder can only do what their genetics allow.

bodybuilding simply comes down to genetics.. the best genetics win.


I really appreciate your pragmatism. :)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: clued-up on March 25, 2009, 05:14:10 AM
I really appreciate your pragmatism. :)

I'm glad  :)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: affeman on March 25, 2009, 05:18:45 AM
Another, from Mass Construction...


Why is everyone always sayin' that Flex was a lazy trainer? Dude suffers like a M*therf*cker....???
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: adipo8 on March 25, 2009, 07:47:58 AM
the unrewarded Flex of 93' was the Best.

Todays IFBB - tend to be overweight for their frames.

Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NeoSeminole on March 25, 2009, 08:47:44 AM
the overwhelming visual evidence in favor of Flex has changed my mind. ::)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: jaejonna on March 25, 2009, 08:49:01 AM
Phil Heath is more complete and freakier..
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Bobby on March 25, 2009, 08:58:57 AM
flex definitely

(http://kulturystyka.magicsport.pl/IMG/slownik/flexwheeler/flexwheeler3.jpg)

(http://magicsport.pl/img/content/newsy_galeria_zdjec/5_flexwheelerplecy.jpg)

(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/image/halloffame/FlexWheeler1.jpg)
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
the overwhelming visual evidence in favor of Flex has changed my mind. ::)

Some more evidence for your



In Flex's case, will power had nothing to do with it. He was known as a lazy bastard and could hardly find the will to get in condition most of the time. Had he trained and prepared himself half as hard as Dorian did, the sky was the limit. But he just never had it. He was just incredibly gifted.

Charles Glass said that Flx was strong, and he had to tell Flex to not push it so hard, this was back in 1992-1993.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on March 25, 2009, 12:47:30 PM
flex in 93 was small compared to his later years

Dont Dexter weigh as much as 93 Flex while being 4 inches shorter and in equal condition?
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Wiggs on March 25, 2009, 12:57:09 PM
Some more evidence for your



Charles Glass said that Flx was strong, and he had to tell Flex to not push it so hard, this was back in 1992-1993.

Flex and his gay ass unitards...

He was such an asshole back then.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Deicide on March 25, 2009, 01:00:07 PM
just as long as there is something to polish...

So true.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Deicide on March 25, 2009, 01:06:47 PM
Flex and his gay ass unitards...

He was such an asshole back then.

Ninja.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 01:31:01 PM
flex in 93 was small compared to his later years

Dont Dexter weigh as much as 93 Flex while being 4 inches shorter and in equal condition?

Probably

Flex was a light-weight. This vid shows it. He weighed 218 at the 1993 Olympia, and 215 at the 1993 Arnold

Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on March 25, 2009, 01:34:49 PM
Probably

Flex was a light-weight. This vid shows it. He weighed 218 at the 1993 Olympia, and 215 at the 1993 Arnold




Dexter is much heavier than Flex also, much thicker more complete physique.
He beats Flex handily
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 01:50:51 PM

Dexter is much heavier than Flex also, much thicker more complete physique.
He beats Flex handily

Dex, now has a gut, Flex at his best, circa 1992, 1993, never did. Plus, his back was more detailed. Legs were super shredded.

Flex's competition was light yrs better than Dex's. But Dex is FAR more consistent with his conditioning than Flex. Dex is like Shawn Ray in this area. And it was Flex that put Dex onto Joe Mcneil.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Meso_z on March 25, 2009, 03:02:21 PM
Flex's muscles were shaped like balloons.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 25, 2009, 03:10:09 PM
Dex, now has a gut, Flex at his best, circa 1992, 1993, never did. Plus, his back was more detailed. Legs were super shredded.

Flex's competition was light yrs better than Dex's. But Dex is FAR more consistent with his conditioning than Flex. Dex is like Shawn Ray in this area. And it was Flex that put Dex onto Joe Mcneil.

Dex may be bigger but that's a matter of semantics , what separates Flex Wheeler from everyone else is his shape , his proportions , his super tiny joints and full round muscle bellies this is what makes him so special , Flex stands alone in the shape department , seriously alone
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 25, 2009, 03:11:19 PM
is dex bigger?


flex looks way bigger to me...
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 03:16:40 PM
Dex may be bigger but that's a matter of semantics , what separates Flex Wheeler from everyone else is his shape , his proportions , his super tiny joints and full round muscle bellies this is what makes him so special , Flex stands alone in the shape department , seriously alone

Too bad he didn't train with Dorian...would have been great to see number 2 train with number 1, and possibly surpass him. Which I seriously don't think Dorian would have minded.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Bobby on March 25, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
Probably

Flex was a light-weight. This vid shows it. He weighed 218 at the 1993 Olympia, and 215 at the 1993 Arnold


Yes! you don't need more weight than that! if you don't look good at 220, being 250 is not magically gonna make you god.
Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 25, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
Too bad he didn't train with Dorian...would have been great to see number 2 train with number 1, and possibly surpass him. Which I seriously don't think Dorian would have minded.

Flex could beat Yates I have no doubts about that , I think Flex 93 ironman and ASC would have beat Yates , but Flex got compliant and after the accident he was never the same  :-\

Title: Re: Phil Heath is Better than Flex? Say What!!
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2009, 04:24:06 PM
Flex could beat Yates I have no doubts about that , I think Flex 93 ironman and ASC would have beat Yates , but Flex got compliant and after the accident he was never the same  :-\



That MM shot beats out Phil's

Yes! you don't need more weight than that! if you don't look good at 220, being 250 is not magically gonna make you god.

Exactly, Flex didn't figure that out, and now, Flex's clone, Melvin Anthony, hasn't figured that out either. And he's gonna be 40 this yr :P