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Title: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 03:38:58 PM
99% genetics and the rest is hard work and diet...come on, you can't deny that?! :o ???
::)

Don't bother with your training and diet if you don't already look like your goal.  ::)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: burn2live on March 27, 2009, 03:41:08 PM
Meltdown

(http://8vsb.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/00_meltdown.jpg)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 03:41:52 PM
Meltdown

(http://8vsb.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/00_meltdown.jpg)
;)

Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: burn2live on March 27, 2009, 03:42:53 PM
;)



Just kidding you, I agree 99% is a pretty large number to put on it. Tbh it you can't really put a number on it
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 27, 2009, 03:44:37 PM
Scientifically speaking, genetics usually falls somewhere within the range of
20%-77%.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 03:45:21 PM
Just kidding you, I agree 99% is a pretty large number to put on it. Tbh it you can't really put a number on it

Majority, to say the least.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 03:45:32 PM
Scientifically speaking, genetics usually falls somewhere within the range of
20%-77%.
(http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/o_rly.jpg)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Bobby on March 27, 2009, 03:45:49 PM
one post and you are crucified

PIP deicide

 ;D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: burn2live on March 27, 2009, 03:45:55 PM
Scientifically speaking, genetics usually falls somewhere within the range of
30%-67%.

Have you taken into account standard error?
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: burn2live on March 27, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
Majority, to say the least.

Agreed
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
one post and you are crucified

PIP deicide

 ;D
Its hard to think waking up every day reducing your ability to accomplish anything to your genetics. Sounds like we have a real "go getter" on our hands here...  :D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 27, 2009, 03:47:14 PM
Have you taken into account standard error?

+/- 3.35 standard deviations.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: burn2live on March 27, 2009, 03:48:10 PM
+/- 3.35 standard deviations.

That's reasonable then
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MAXX on March 27, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Scientifically speaking, genetics usually falls somewhere within the range of
20%-77%.
hahaha how can you even put numbers on something like that.

where did you get those numbers from anyways?
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: wavelength on March 27, 2009, 03:53:58 PM
yes it's true, genetics are important
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 03:54:42 PM
yes it's true, genetics are important

Eben.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: CastIron on March 27, 2009, 04:03:17 PM
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/joe791_2nd/Genetics.jpg)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MAXX on March 27, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
Scientifically speaking, genetics usually falls somewhere within the range of
20%-77%.
pumpster where did you get these numbers from lol

my guess is you just made them up to sound smart.

it's impossible to put a number on something like that when there is so many variables involved.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MAXX on March 27, 2009, 04:05:51 PM
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh102/joe791_2nd/Genetics.jpg)
funny but at the same time stupid picture. her mom wouldn't be so fat if she didn't eat like a pig.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: The Master on March 27, 2009, 04:07:35 PM
Comment to deicide: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272443.50
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 04:12:31 PM
Don't be fuccking pussys get out there and achieve the best you can in your chosen field

Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Don't be fuccking pussys get out there and achieve the best you can in your chosen field



Genetics.

Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 04:18:02 PM
Genetics.



(http://runkz.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/jay_cutler2.jpg)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 27, 2009, 04:19:32 PM
pumpster where did you get these numbers from lol

my guess is you just made them up to sound smart.

it's impossible to put a number on something like that when there is so many variables involved.

lol it's all tongue in cheek, i don't have to try to sound smart. ;D

tbombz?  :D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: wavelength on March 27, 2009, 04:21:57 PM
jay has great PED responding genetics
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 04:25:28 PM
jay has great PED responding genetics

He had to start somewhere.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 27, 2009, 04:29:08 PM
Deicide = destined to fail
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 04:48:58 PM
Deicide = destined to fail

We all are, depending on how you look at things.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: wavelength on March 27, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
We all are, depending on how you look at things.

Eben
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Deicide on March 27, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Eben

Yup, yup. ;) Light weight, ain't notin' but a peanut.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Bobby on March 27, 2009, 05:08:57 PM
Its hard to think waking up every day reducing your ability to accomplish anything to your genetics. Sounds like we have a real "go getter" on our hands here...  :D

hahahah "go getter" ;D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: Nasty Nate on March 27, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
It's pretty obvious getbig is full of losers for the most part. Never achieved anything in any field. It's not like bodybuilders were always fucking monsters... years of CONSISTENCY in training, diet, drugs=pro bodybuilder. If you have the "my genetics suck too much to do anything" mentality then quit bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: haider on March 27, 2009, 05:26:05 PM
We all are, depending on how you look at things.
I have already pointed this out, but the results = has a lot to do with your thinking. Optimists are more successful than 'realistic' or pessimistic people, and live happier which = the most important thing. Realism has it's place like the buttplug in your ass, but optimism = the way to go if you want to be successful and happy.*

*posted on behalf of depussey
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: kiwiol on March 27, 2009, 05:37:47 PM
I have already pointed this out, but the results = has a lot to do with your thinking. Optimists are more successful than 'realistic' or pessimistic people, and live happier which = the most important thing. Realism has it's place like the buttplug in your ass, but optimism = the way to go if you want to be successful and happy.*

*posted on behalf of depussey

 ;D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: haider on March 27, 2009, 05:48:59 PM
;D
inspired by kiwiol  ;D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: The Master on March 27, 2009, 05:49:33 PM
I have already pointed this out, but the results = has a lot to do with your thinking. Optimists are more successful than 'realistic' or pessimistic people, and live happier which = the most important thing. Realism has it's place like the buttplug in your ass, but optimism = the way to go if you want to be successful and happy.*

*posted on behalf of depussey


Fagger = correct 8)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: haider on March 27, 2009, 05:54:58 PM

Fagger = correct 8)
optimism = 99% genetics  ::)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: G o a t b o y on March 27, 2009, 05:56:17 PM
hahaha how can you even put numbers on something like that.

where did you get those numbers from anyways?



Did you know that 96.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: The Master on March 27, 2009, 05:57:24 PM
optimism = a learnt trait to a large degree.


Fixed Spermer.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: lovemonkey on March 27, 2009, 05:57:39 PM


Did you know that 96.7% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

Muscletech has some explaining to do.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: haider on March 27, 2009, 06:00:32 PM
Society = pessimistic for the most part, preventing people from acheiving as much as they can.
fixed douchey
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: The Master on March 27, 2009, 06:08:54 PM
fixed douchey

Spermboy telling teh truth :D
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: clued-up on March 27, 2009, 11:38:01 PM
when it comes to bodybuilding.. it all comes down to genetics.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 27, 2009, 11:42:06 PM
when it comes to bodybuilding.. it all comes down to genetics.


Unless you take massive amounts of drugs, but yeah for the most part i totally agree. It's why Arnold will always be the greatest, he took the same as everyone else yet looked so much better.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: clued-up on March 27, 2009, 11:50:43 PM

Unless you take massive amounts of drugs, but yeah for the most part i totally agree. It's why Arnold will always be the greatest, he took the same as everyone else yet looked so much better.

yes.. in this game.. genetics are everything.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 28, 2009, 12:02:05 AM
yes.. in this game.. genetics are everything.


Thank god for mine, been lazy ass shit and havn't really "worked out" in over a year, just gettin back into it finally but I still look like I work out regularly, people can't believe how little I been doing lately.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 28, 2009, 12:29:20 AM

Thank god for mine, been lazy ass shit and havn't really "worked out" in over a year, just gettin back into it finally but I still look like I work out regularly, people can't believe how little I been doing lately.

You must be a monster now at what, 16 yo "mike the pompous ass" lol
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 28, 2009, 12:33:56 AM
You must be a monster now at what, 16 yo "mike the pompous ass" lol


I see you still have no life and gobble the cock as a hobby. Seriously though when your not 50 and a total douche get back to me.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: clued-up on March 28, 2009, 12:39:39 AM

Thank god for mine, been lazy ass shit and havn't really "worked out" in over a year, just gettin back into it finally but I still look like I work out regularly, people can't believe how little I been doing lately.

some guys look great.. and dont work out at all.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: clued-up on March 28, 2009, 12:42:00 AM
what you end up looking like.. is predetermined by your genetics. if you do everything as efficiently as possible... you will simply maximize your own genetic potential.. which is unique to everyone.

the mass you can build, maintain and lose.. the bodyfat you carry and are capable of burning... your structure and the shape and insertion points of your muscles.. are all genetically predetermined.

you are fixed. your structure is fixed.. all this talk of percentages... this is a game of physical appearance.. yes there are variables involved.. and if you work those variables perfectly.. your end result.. will still be - 100% determined by your genetics.

genetics... you can not escape them  :)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 28, 2009, 12:43:21 AM
some guys look great.. and dont work out at all.

Knew a guy back in the day who literally did nothing but play basketball from time to time but looked great and could run faster, jump higher and lift more then me who actually trained everyday, he did all this without breaking a sweat or looking like he was even trying. I HATE HIM!!!
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 28, 2009, 12:48:12 AM
what you end up looking like.. is predetermined by your genetics. if you do everything as efficiently as possible... you will simply maximize your own genetic potential.. which is unique to everyone.

the mass you can build, maintain and lose.. the bodyfat you carry and are capable of burning... your structure and the shape and insertion points of your muscles.. are all genetically predetermined.

you are fixed. your structure is fixed.. all this talk of percentages... this is a game of physical appearance.. yes there are variables involved.. and if you work those variables perfectly.. your end result.. will still be - 100% determined by your genetics.

genetics... you can not escape them  :)


Which is why BBing is dead, I totally agree. I often wonder if this person or that person decided to be a BBer, really all BBing is, is who has decided to load up on drugs and max out there body. Anyone with decent genetics could do it and do it "well" but only the few and far between just have "That look" which drives them to the top in either placings or popularity, these days though BBing is filled with tools who have their 2 years of fame and then wither and die.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 28, 2009, 06:48:06 AM
yes.. in this game.. genetics are everything.

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It's why Arnold will always be the greatest, he took the same as everyone else yet looked so much better.

Not a great example using Schwarzenegger; he had big-time advantages but also combined that with other things.
That could be said about anything-any sport, business, etc...there's a lot more to it, as far as maximizing what's there. A number of Olympian winners didn't have the absolute best genetics vis-a-vis other competitors; various studies indicate that genetics are a big factor but far from alone in the final outcome.


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I see you still have no life and gobble the cock as a hobby. Seriously though when your not 50 and a total douche get back to me.


Calm down kid. You're what, 17 years old now, about 150 lb. soaking wet and have only grown in terms of your arrogance ya lil twit lol


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Knew a guy back in the day who literally did nothing but play basketball from time to time but looked great and could run faster, jump higher and lift more then me who actually trained everyday, he did all this without breaking a sweat or looking like he was even trying.

And where did that get him.. in terms of pro basketball..
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: lovemonkey on March 28, 2009, 06:59:00 AM
BowFlex - maximizing genetic potential since never.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: io856 on March 28, 2009, 06:59:51 AM
And where did that get him..
BINGO  :)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 28, 2009, 07:00:40 AM
BowFlex - maximizing genetic potential since never.

Capitalizing the F in a one-word name i smell GED lol...with a combination that includes genetics, etc. it doesn't matter what you use, as gh15 and bob chic would say. ;)
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: lovemonkey on March 28, 2009, 07:18:08 AM
Capitalizing the F tells me you didn't finish high school lol...with a combination that includes genetics, etc. it doesn't matter what you use, as gh15 and bob chic would say. ;)

I capitalized the F because it makes for a stronger brand so to speak, many companies do this. If Bow>f<lex doesn't, then whatever.

Give it up man, who in their right mind would ever admit on a bodybuilding board that they use a bowflex, rofl.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: The Master on March 28, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
what you end up looking like.. is predetermined by your genetics. if you do everything as efficiently as possible... you will simply maximize your own genetic potential.. which is unique to everyone.

the mass you can build, maintain and lose.. the bodyfat you carry and are capable of burning... your structure and the shape and insertion points of your muscles.. are all genetically predetermined.

you are fixed. your structure is fixed.. all this talk of percentages... this is a game of physical appearance.. yes there are variables involved.. and if you work those variables perfectly.. your end result.. will still be - 100% determined by your genetics.

genetics... you can not escape them  :)


If every variable is accounted for, and the most optimal strategy in every area = chosen, then, yes, in BB genetics will be the determining factor.

The only problem with your statement is that almost nobody come close to doing what it takes to get to this point, so while the argument = certainly has merit, it = not very applicable when discussing "building a good or great natural physique (Debussey assumes that we're discussing that here, not toptoptoplevel competiion)". In the real world, 97-98% of people that are into "building a good or great physique" never come close to putting in the effort, using the best strategies and doing it for long enough to ever max out their "genetics".

So the last line of your post should instead be like this (given that we're not only discussing the worlds absolute best bb's or whatnot): !genetics... you can not escape them... but youre gonna have a shitload of trouble maximizing them..."

 :-*
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 28, 2009, 07:25:36 AM
I capitalized the F because it makes for a stronger brand so to speak, many companies do this. If Bow>f<lex doesn't, then whatever.

Give it up man, who in their right mind would ever admit on a bodybuilding board that they use a bowflex, rofl.

Open you mind a little monkey, i mean you've already admitted you're clueless when it comes to understanding that stretch marks occur from training with OR without drugs, which tells me you really haven't lifted...YET.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: lovemonkey on March 28, 2009, 07:28:12 AM
Open you mind a little monkey, i mean you've already admitted you're clueless when it comes to understanding that stretch marks occur from training with OR without drugs, which tells me you really haven't lifted...YET.

I fuckin dare you to dig up any of my posts where I claim that. How does it feel having to lie in order to win an argument?
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: pumpster on March 28, 2009, 07:31:55 AM
I fuckin dare you to dig up any of my posts where I claim that. How does it feel having to lie in order to win an argument?

Why would someone who is "winning" an argument bring up a piece of equipment haahahahaha BTW since you can't do 410 lb. on most exercises on a bow you should get one and get busy working on those genetics monk.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: lovemonkey on March 28, 2009, 07:33:06 AM
Why would someone who is "winning" an argument bring up a piece of equipment haahahahaha BTW since you can't do 410 lb. on most exercises on a bow you should get one and get busy working on those genetics monk.

So you did lie, huh?
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: MikeThaMachine on March 28, 2009, 08:30:38 AM
Pumpster = Biggest tool on this site


I swear you never stop, Jenna Haze couldn't out blow your faget ass. Seriously though when you slap on a fresh pair of Depends Adult Diapers and remember where you live let me know. But meanwhile continue with your grammer Nazi ways and assume you better then everyone because you clicked the spell check before you posted.
Title: Re: Everybody just give up... its 99% genetics
Post by: clued-up on March 28, 2009, 09:47:35 PM
the last line of your post should instead be like this (given that we're not only discussing the worlds absolute best bb's or whatnot): !genetics... you can not escape them... but youre gonna have a shitload of trouble maximizing them..."

 :-*

that line would ring true for more than a few getbiggers...