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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Deicide on March 31, 2009, 09:50:57 AM
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Hasn't he gone on record for saying horsemeat was the secret of his success?
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Hasn't he gone on record for saying horsemeat was the secret of his success?
or horse shit.
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PED
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Hey come on...there are a LOT of natural pro bodybuilders... Flex Wheeler , Gustavo Badell
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Hey come on...there are a LOT of natural pro bodybuilders... Flex Wheeler , Gustavo Badell
dont forget Markus Ruhl.
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He dosen't need aas he just shoots oil everywhere.
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I believe Serge.
The guy trains like 4-5 hours a day with like 45 secs rest between sets, eats 10lb of horsemeat per day, he's bound to be jacked.
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He loved him some dianabol.
Anybody who was a bodybuilder and didn't use steroids back when they were legal was an idiot. That's like not using creatine today.
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'NEWSFLASH'
Drug addicted Pros will continue to lie and mislead others regarding the degree of their substance abuse.
Translation:The mindset of a drug using Pro is 'no different' to that of your regular 'in the gutter' street-junky!
Drug Addict= liar=Pro
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The greatest natural of all time, may he pose in peace, Andreas Munzer would tell us if serge is full of shit or not.
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by 'horsemeat' he means 'dianabol'
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Genetics and steroids, the magic combination.
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GeneticsFood and steroids, the magic combination.
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Nubret had a great physique, but he definitely used juice. In fact,a lot of guys from the US, like a top guy back then, John Brown, traveled to france to learn his drug combo. It obviously was nothing like today, so if Nubret would just say, "What I used back then was just a fraction of what's used today", he'd have a lot more credibility. Any updates on his recent health problem? I heard he was in a coma as of last week.
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Nubret had a great physique, but he definitely used juice. In fact,a lot of guys from the US, like a top guy back then, John Brown, traveled to france to learn his drug combo. It obviously was nothing like today, so if Nubret would just say, "What I used back then was just a fraction of what's used today", he'd have a lot more credibility. Any updates on his recent health problem? I heard he was in a coma as of last week.
maybe he used a fraction in terms of the number of different hormones... but mg of aas per week? id guess he probably used more than what guys use today.
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maybe he used a fraction in terms of the number of different hormones... but mg of aas per week? id guess he probably used more than what guys use today.
You're way off. Nubret was never an abuser. I know a french bodybuilder that lives down here in florida nowa nd was a Mr. France. Trained for years with Nubret, and Nubret told him what he was taking. His injectable dosage was barely 500 mg a week with maybe a few anavars thrown in. This guy has no reason to lie. Very light usage compared to the 1000's of mgs used today.. Nubret was never massive..like about 210 ripped at 6 feet.
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You're way off. Nubret was never an abuser. I know a french bodybuilder that lives down here in florida nowa nd was a Mr. France. Trained for years with Nubret, and Nubret told him what he was taking. His injectable dosage was barely 500 mg a week with maybe a few anavars thrown in. This guy has no reason to lie. Very light usage compared to the 1000's of mgs used today.. Nubret was never massive..like about 210 ripped at 6 feet.
why does he have less of a reason to lie compared to anyone else? of course everybody claims they are natural or only take a very small amount... but time after time people come out of pro bb'ing and confess about the realities of the drug use and its not 500mg a week... and in nubret's day when it was all human grade, cheap, and legal?
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are roids illegal in france?
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Nubret had a great physique, but he definitely used juice. In fact,a lot of guys from the US, like a top guy back then, John Brown, traveled to france to learn his drug combo. It obviously was nothing like today, so if Nubret would just say, "What I used back then was just a fraction of what's used today", he'd have a lot more credibility. Any updates on his recent health problem? I heard he was in a coma as of last week.
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Any updates on his recent health problem? I heard he was in a coma as of last week.
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Fogarty said the health issue isn't anything recent. Hmm...
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are roids illegal in france?
Even creatine is illegal in France. Seriously.
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why does he have less of a reason to lie compared to anyone else? of course everybody claims they are natural or only take a very small amount... but time after time people come out of pro bb'ing and confess about the realities of the drug use and its not 500mg a week... and especially in nubret's day when it was all human grade, cheap, and legal.
You can believe what you want. I was referring to the French guy living here in Florida when I said he had no reason to lie about what Serge told him he took. I saw plenty of guys get extremely massive back in the 80's at my gym that weren't taking over 500 mg a week. People didn't have the internet and didn't go online and be told that hey had to take 2 grams a week or they wouldn't be shit. Plenty of guys took 300 mg test and 200 mg of deca a week and grew excellent on that. In fact, if you can't get pretty big on that, the genetics probably aren't there.
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You can believe what you want. I was referring to the French guy living here in Florida when I said he had no reason to lie about what Serge told him he took. I saw plenty of guys get extremely massive back in the 80's at my gym that weren't taking over 500 mg a week. People didn't have the internet and didn't go online and be told that hey had to take 2 grams a week or they wouldn't be shit. Plenty of guys took 300 mg test and 200 mg of deca a week and grew excellent on that. In fact, if you can't get pretty big on that, the genetics probably aren't there.
i dont doubt that its possible to get big on "low" doseages. however why are you s sure that those guys you knew were only taking 500mg per week? because they told you so, i assume. unless maybe you were the only roid dealer in the surrounding 100 miles and you knew exactly what was possible for them to take per week based on what you sold them. LOL ;D
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You can believe what you want. I was referring to the French guy living here in Florida when I said he had no reason to lie about what Serge told him he took. I saw plenty of guys get extremely massive back in the 80's at my gym that weren't taking over 500 mg a week. People didn't have the internet and didn't go online and be told that hey had to take 2 grams a week or they wouldn't be shit. Plenty of guys took 300 mg test and 200 mg of deca a week and grew excellent on that. In fact, if you can't get pretty big on that, the genetics probably aren't there.
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food and steroids?
you are basically saying that genetics don't mean shit
i have seen you say it many times
tell me, what is the difference between Ronnie Coleman or Flex Wheeler and the gyno boy quakeroats posted a couple of days ago?
he took steroids, why didn't he look like Flex 1993?
pro level bodybuilders all take steroids, all of them are on an even playing field
the only variable, the only thing that would give one the edge over another is their genetics
no offense, but every time i have heard people say good genetics don't matter...it's because they don't have any
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You're idiotic eye rolling gets annoying. You're problem is that you base your opinions entirely on the results you personally get, never considering for one second that there are people out there that respond differently to hormones, that have different genetics and can actually grow from dosages you'd consider puny. And if you think you're more knowlegable about hormones, peptides, nutrition or anything to do with bodybuilding, supplements, vitamins,etc. you can debate me anytime you want..and unlike some people I don't need to Google anything to respond.
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You're idiotic eye rolling gets annoying. You're problem is that you base your opinions entirely on the results you personally get, never considering for one second that there are people out there that respond differently to hormones, that have different genetics and can actually grow from dosages you'd consider puny. And if you think you're more knowlegable about hormones, peptides, nutrition or anything to do with bodybuilding, supplements, vitamins,etc. you can debate me anytime you want..and unlike some people I don't need to Google anything to respond.
i still don't get how sevastase can look like he benches 135 but he can actually bench 405 for reps :-/
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food and steroids?
you are basically saying that genetics don't mean shit
i have seen you say it many times
tell me, what is the difference between Ronnie Coleman or Flex Wheeler and the gyno boy quakeroats posted a couple of days ago?
he took steroids, why didn't he look like Flex 1993?
pro level bodybuilders all take steroids, all of them are on an even playing field
the only variable, the only thing that would give one the edge over another is their genetics
no offense, but every time i have heard people say good genetics don't matter...it's because they don't have any
nah, genetics mean ALOT. plenty of guys jacked as fuck but could never be a pro bodybuilder, ever, in their wildest dreams. but thats due more to genetic structure, not genetic hormonal levels. the genetics most people refer to...as in ability to gain muscle and ability to lose fat...those dont matter as much...because those can all be controlled by exogenous sources.
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nah, genetics mean ALOT. plenty of guys jacked as fuck but could never be a pro bodybuilder, ever, in their wildest dreams. but thats due more to genetic structure, not genetic hormonal levels. the genetics most people refer to...as in ability to gain muscle and ability to lose fat...those dont matter as much...because those can all be controlled by exogenous sources.
I agree, muscle bellies, bone structure, etc is genetics and can't be changed
all you need to do is compare the tirceps of ruhl to levrone ;D
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serge loved tren, thats a fact.
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nah, genetics mean ALOT. plenty of guys jacked as fuck but could never be a pro bodybuilder, ever, in their wildest dreams. but thats due more to genetic structure, not genetic hormonal levels. the genetics most people refer to...as in ability to gain muscle and ability to lose fat...those dont matter as much...because those can all be controlled by exogenous sources.
wtf you keep harping on about this shit? Call a spade a spade, it comes down to genetics mmkay?
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wtf you keep harping on about this shit? Call a spade a spade, it comes down to genetics mmkay?
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